I don't like being threatened so here it is I'm Bankrupt This is what happened to me. - Page 6 - GoFuckYourself.com

_Richard_ · 07-29-2009, 05:29 PM

best of luck Sleazy!

Nickatilynx · 07-29-2009, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I went bankrupt in my mainstream ventures. Not my online adult ventures. There I said it.

I went bankrupt. yadda yadda....

short version

I wrote off my back taxes, my credit cards ...yadda yadda.

Interesting read.

Firstly let me state for the record , I'm not here to hate.Never had any dealings with you , met you once in Van briefly I think , had dinner with your brother. Never had a problem with you.

I do however have a couple of questions nagging at me.

How have you managed to go personally bankrupt but keep your websites?

I could see if your mainstream corp went into receivership , and the sperate corp owning yr web ventures was fine , but from what you have posted (ie yr credit cards and back taxes etc) it appears that this is a personal bankruptcy.

A personal bankruptcy would cover ALL assets surely and this would include your websites , wouldn't it?

Holly Lez! · 07-29-2009, 05:58 PM

Thanks for sharing. I am sure you will be back on your feet in no time. And fuck all the negative talkers (umm not literally unless they are hot) no one should judge you til they look in the mirror~

Bojangles · 07-29-2009, 06:09 PM

That's crazy. Good luck, man.

»Rob Content« · 07-29-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Um, he said the reason he came out was because his pissed off land partner was going to out him, not really what I'd call being "upfront".

If by land partner he means the person he purchased a ton of lake front property in Manitoba that would be Jman, as they made a thread about it together.. And given that Jman has not posted in here when those two came across super tight I assume there is a fallout there.

Either way not my business.

Jake · 07-29-2009, 06:22 PM

Knowing Scott as I do I'm sure he'll bounce back quickly from this.

ModelPerfect · 07-29-2009, 06:24 PM

I can't tell you how much I appreciate you posting that, Sleazy. I've been struggling with similar issues, and unless someone has been there, they can't understand how stressful and demoralizing it is. It's humbling, to say the least.

There are certain people in the industry who most everyone looks up to in one way or another, and I'm certain you're one of them. To hear and understand that this can happen to anyone, even the guys you admire, is in a way motivating. I hate to hear you're having all the trouble, but it does help to know we're not alone. That financial hardship doesn't strike personally...sometimes shit just happens and keeps happening.

Thank you, and I wish you the best of luck, Sleazy!

lazycash · 07-29-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by »Rob Content«

If by land partner he means the person he purchased a ton of lake front property in Manitoba that would be Jman, as they made a thread about it together.. And given that Jman has not posted in here when those two came across super tight I assume there is a fallout there.

Either way not my business.

Ah, bet you're right.

Bryan G · 07-29-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

So, even though you were hugely successful, as soon as the gun came out.. you decided to get out?

Hahahahaha, what a load of crap.

This is Canada not the US, you fucking idiot

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

So, even though you were hugely successful, as soon as the gun came out.. you decided to get out?

Hahahahaha, what a load of crap.

i wasn't hugly successful with the bar, I was profitable. Drunks THINK when they see people drinking you're hugly successful. Big difference.

and yes, I saw the gun, too many people told me they were now going to bring guns, it went out of anything I could controll so I pulled the plug

BVF · 07-29-2009, 06:31 PM

This is fucked....It's like being one of the first prospectors to arrive in California during the gold rush of 1849....You get there and stake a big claim and haul in big chunks of gold...You then have a nice operation going and you leave to start an oil company...

Then the oil men eat you alive and all of that inital gold rush money is now gone.....Then after all of that, having to go back to California to find a new way to pan for gold....Except that the gold rush is already over....

Sleazy, if I were you, I would do what I said to do years ago and that's MOVE THE FUCK OUTTA CANADA!!. I don't see a reason for remaining in a cold climate all alone.....And now that the house is gone and the good friend is gone, pack up skufty and hit Panama or Belize....Then you can get you a nice native girl and pop out some kids while living cheaply in another country.

That's at least what I'M gonna do.

Socks · 07-29-2009, 06:59 PM

Sleazy,

How did you retain ownership in your sites and corporations through bankruptcy?

Very interested in the answer to this question. I always thought ownership in your companies went when you filed for bankruptcy as they're assets?

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Interesting read.

Firstly let me state for the record , I'm not here to hate.Never had any dealings with you , met you once in Van briefly I think , had dinner with your brother. Never had a problem with you.

I do however have a couple of questions nagging at me.

How have you managed to go personally bankrupt but keep your websites?

I could see if your mainstream corp went into receivership , and the sperate corp owning yr web ventures was fine , but from what you have posted (ie yr credit cards and back taxes etc) it appears that this is a personal bankruptcy.

A personal bankruptcy would cover ALL assets surely and this would include your websites , wouldn't it?

went though that with the trustee, and it's his call and he's already made it..

He told me he looked at as similar to a real estate agents client list - salable with consent but this is my chosen business and I'd rip everything I could out of the site if it was sold without my consent and I could legally do that too so they figured they'd make more money for my creditors garnishing my wages while in bankruptcy than selling it and having me attack it and ending up in legal battles. The site employs a lot of people, dumping it would put them all in financial trouble as well. So basically they give me a salary to live on and the trustee takes the profit from it, and in two years who knows what it'll be worth so there's a meeting then and probably a settlement. If they sell it it would have to go into trust for months with all the legal stuff around it and that would kill all the traffic and value. Yes there would still be some value, but after discussion and a lot of looking into they felt there's more if I work it and they take the excess. So the simple answer is I'm working for the bankrupsy trustee lol

Nickatilynx · 07-29-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks

Sleazy,

How did you retain ownership in your sites and corporations through bankruptcy?

Very interested in the answer to this question. I always thought ownership in your companies went when you filed for bankruptcy as they're assets?

I just asked that!! Scroll up LOL

;)

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

This is fucked....It's like being one of the first prospectors to arrive in California during the gold rush of 1849....You get there and stake a big claim and haul in big chunks of gold...You then have a nice operation going and you leave to start an oil company...

Then the oil men eat you alive and all of that inital gold rush money is now gone.....Then after all of that, having to go back to California to find a new way to pan for gold....Except that the gold rush is already over....

Sleazy, if I were you, I would do what I said to do years ago and that's MOVE THE FUCK OUTTA CANADA!!. I don't see a reason for remaining in a cold climate all alone.....And now that the house is gone and the good friend is gone, pack up skufty and hit Panama or Belize....Then you can get you a nice native girl and pop out some kids while living cheaply in another country.

That's at least what I'M gonna do.

hey - would you like to do an ambush interview?

Nickatilynx · 07-29-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

went though that with the trustee, and it's his call and he's already made it..

He told he looked at as similar to a real estate agents client list - salable with consent but this is my chosen business and I'd rip everything I could out of the site if it was sold without my consent and I could legally do that too so they figured they'd make more money for my creditors garnishing my wages while in bankruptcy than selling it and having me attack it and ending up in legal battles. The site employs a lot of people, dumping it would put them all in financial trouble as well. So basically they give me a salary to live on and the trustee takes the profit from it, and in two years who knows what it'll be worth so there's a meeting then and probably a settlement. If they sell it it would have to go into trust for months with all the legal stuff around it and that would kill all the traffic and value. Yes there would still be some value, but after discussion and a lot of looking into they felt there's more if I work it and they take the excess. So the simple answer is I'm working for the bankrupsy trustee lol

Ahhh Makes sense.

Thanks for your honest and succinct answer.

Socks · 07-29-2009, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

I just asked that!! Scroll up LOL

;)

hehe yeah this thread moves faster than I read apparently.. I had already asked before you on page 3, but got no response so I was asking again.

So nyah!

Thanks for the answer Sleazy. So the long and the short of it is you were a bit of an observer with heckling powers as it turned out for that portion.

Nickatilynx · 07-29-2009, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

This is fucked....It's like being one of the first prospectors to arrive in California during the gold rush of 1849....You get there and stake a big claim and haul in big chunks of gold...You then have a nice operation going and you leave to start an oil company...

Then the oil men eat you alive and all of that inital gold rush money is now gone.....Then after all of that, having to go back to California to find a new way to pan for gold....Except that the gold rush is already over....
.

Good analogy..been mentioned before to me by Serge Oprano.

And here is where all of us fucked up by not studying history......

The people who made fortunes , real fortunes, which they kept in the gold rush were not the prospectors.(Webmasters)

It was the bankers (epoch,ccbill) the hotel keepers (National net) ..etc etc...

;)

beemk · 07-29-2009, 07:07 PM

looks like you really got fucked on the improvements if you spent that much. it looks nice, but doesnt look like a nice club. i would say it looks like a nice finished basement at best.

Nickatilynx · 07-29-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

.. I had already asked before you on page 3, but got no response

Shit. LOL

My apologies.

But we both got an answer in the end ;)

IMHO a good un too.

BVF · 07-29-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

hey - would you like to do an ambush interview?

Thanks for asking but I don't want these GFY tools all up in my business.

alias · 07-29-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

This is fucked....It's like being one of the first prospectors to arrive in California during the gold rush of 1849....You get there and stake a big claim and haul in big chunks of gold...You then have a nice operation going and you leave to start an oil company...

Then the oil men eat you alive and all of that inital gold rush money is now gone.....Then after all of that, having to go back to California to find a new way to pan for gold....Except that the gold rush is already over....

Sleazy, if I were you, I would do what I said to do years ago and that's MOVE THE FUCK OUTTA CANADA!!. I don't see a reason for remaining in a cold climate all alone.....And now that the house is gone and the good friend is gone, pack up skufty and hit Panama or Belize....Then you can get you a nice native girl and pop out some kids while living cheaply in another country.

That's at least what I'M gonna do.

Keep us posted please.

Vitasoy · 07-29-2009, 07:54 PM

Crazy story, least you got porn to lean on

lazycash · 07-29-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beemk

looks like you really got fucked on the improvements if you spent that much. it looks nice, but doesnt look like a nice club. i would say it looks like a nice finished basement at best.

I was curious, if the previous bar tenant was evicted, why did it take 300k in renovations to bring it back up, did they trash the place upon eviction?

Dodge2hot · 07-29-2009, 08:22 PM

hate to hear it. happens way to often.

BV · 07-29-2009, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

Thanks for asking but I don't want these GFY tools all up in my business.

What a fucking Pussy,
Do the fucking interview

slapass · 07-29-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Good analogy..been mentioned before to me by Serge Oprano.

And here is where all of us fucked up by not studying history......

The people who made fortunes , real fortunes, which they kept in the gold rush were not the prospectors.(Webmasters)

It was the bankers (epoch,ccbill) the hotel keepers (National net) ..etc etc...

;)

Not always - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes. And there is a huge list of oil guys.

Brad Mitchell · 07-29-2009, 08:57 PM

You survived and you're still here. You know who your real friends are, what is really important and won't ever make the same mistakes twice. I'm proud of you.

Friends till the end through up, down, sideways, backwards.

All my best,

Brad

Snake Doctor · 07-29-2009, 10:13 PM

I only read a page and a half, and I'm laughing my ass off at all the keyboard warriors telling Sleazy he should have done this that or the other thing....with their 20/20 hindsight.

Meanwhile, most of the people mouthing off don't have two nickels of their own to rub together. A big part of business is knowing when to fish, and when to cut bait.

Hey Scott, sorry to hear this happened, and sorry you had to share it publicly because some asshole was trying to hold it over your head.

FWIW, here is a list of some notable people who have filed for bankruptcy.
Walt Disney
William C. Durant (founder of GM)
PT Barnum (before he started the circus)
Ulysses S. Grant
Milton Snavely Hershey (his first 4 candy companies failed)
Abraham Lincoln
Thomas Paine
Rembrandt
Donald Trump
Mark Twain
Oscar Wilde
Henry Ford (First two car companies failed)
HJ Heinz

To make it in business you have to take some risks. Most of the idiots sniping in this thread haven't even taken the "risk" of moving out of their parent's house yet.

NoWhErE · 07-29-2009, 10:33 PM

Sad story Scott but you'll pull through.

My first question though is why didn't you incorporate a company and put the bar under your its name? That way if it went bankrupt, you would not have been personnaly liable and wouldn't have lost all of your personnal stuff.

I've never incorporated a company myself, so I might be dead wrong on this...

seeric · 07-29-2009, 10:49 PM

Clubs are tough animals. I managed bars and ran clubs for 12 years before I came into adult. If you need anything let me know. I'll do my best to help you out. Buy some ads, traffic, etc.

07-29-2009, 11:20 PM

I am sorry to read that Scott. It is horrible that you posted all of this because an asshole with to much time on his hands was threatening you.

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Sad story Scott but you'll pull through.

My first question though is why didn't you incorporate a company and put the bar under your its name? That way if it went bankrupt, you would not have been personnaly liable and wouldn't have lost all of your personnal stuff.

I've never incorporated a company myself, so I might be dead wrong on this...

i did, loans were liable personally though

DatingGold · 07-29-2009, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

This is fucked....It's like being one of the first prospectors to arrive in California during the gold rush of 1849....You get there and stake a big claim and haul in big chunks of gold...You then have a nice operation going and you leave to start an oil company...

Then the oil men eat you alive and all of that inital gold rush money is now gone.....Then after all of that, having to go back to California to find a new way to pan for gold....Except that the gold rush is already over....

Sleazy, if I were you, I would do what I said to do years ago and that's MOVE THE FUCK OUTTA CANADA!!. I don't see a reason for remaining in a cold climate all alone.....And now that the house is gone and the good friend is gone, pack up skufty and hit Panama or Belize....Then you can get you a nice native girl and pop out some kids while living cheaply in another country.

That's at least what I'M gonna do.

That was a great analogy..

DatingGold · 07-29-2009, 11:50 PM

You took a risk in trying to expand your business, you just picked something you didn't have enough experience in plus sounds like you got shafted some. With hard work you should be able to rebound in some manner. Good luck.

fatal attraction · 07-30-2009, 12:36 AM

I'm soooo sorry Scott!!!!! I haven't been on gfy much at all in awhile but I heard about this thread and had to come look. I wish you the best! You really should out this moron that was trying to blackmail you! I'm guessing since you are such a nice guy, you won't.....but think about it! He deserves it!!!!!! I wish you nothing but the best!

mikesinner · 07-30-2009, 12:53 AM

This is why you never associate with drug addicts much less do business with them.

pocketkangaroo · 07-30-2009, 01:05 AM

I don't know if it's been the recession or what, but there has been a lot of old timers who have gone broke. Not just small board names, but people who had major sites and major programs. It seems like every other day I'm hearing about someone who was making mad cash 5 years ago not being able to cover their rent.

CarlosTheGaucho · 07-30-2009, 01:30 AM

Well no matter if it ended up this or other way - that's business and kudos to anyone who's not afraid to risk.

I'm sure everything will work out well, wishing more successful adventures in the future.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-30-2009, 01:38 AM

Didn't read the thread (it's on friggin' page 6 already)...

Anyway, a few pearls of wisdom:

Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Winners never quit, and quitters never win...

La dee la dee, la dee la da dah, la dee la da dah!!!

ADG

BVF · 07-30-2009, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias

Keep us posted please.

Dude, I went there last year and fell in love with it....I went again this past May and I will be going again in September for the little Carnival that they have on the island....The only reason that I haven't moved is because I have small children and can't officially move until my youngest child turns 12 in 6 years...Then I can leave...So I will be purchasing property within two years and will start to build...They have beachfront lots for CHEAP down there...some as cheap as 1,700 an acre....

Why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for a bar in cold ass Canada when you can go to Central America and serve beer and rum at your own rustic beach shack bar?....Why spend years in a cold lonely place by yourself when you can be enjoying hot weather and rubbing on fine toned bodies?....I just don't see it....

Sleazy could be doing what I do when I'm down there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

What a fucking Pussy,
Do the fucking interview

I have no desire to talk about my business openly like that...I believe that I would jinx myself.....Therefore, I will remain an UN-Jinxed Pussy

Ron2k1 · 07-30-2009, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

Why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars for a bar in cold ass Canada when you can go to Central America and serve beer and rum at your own rustic beach shack bar?....Why spend years in a cold lonely place by yourself when you can be enjoying hot weather and rubbing on fine toned bodies?....I just don't see it....

Damn that really sounds like heaven

WebCompanyInc · 07-30-2009, 06:35 AM

Easy come easy go--- fuck it thats life

The very worst thing to do is dwell on it and set goals based on it .. Just bust your ass again and rebound

Theres still plenty of money in porn

RobertD · 07-30-2009, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Good analogy..been mentioned before to me by Serge Oprano.

And here is where all of us fucked up by not studying history......

The people who made fortunes , real fortunes, which they kept in the gold rush were not the prospectors.(Webmasters)

It was the bankers (epoch,ccbill) the hotel keepers (National net) ..etc etc...

;)

I've always heard that too, the guys who really made out sold the pans, picks, shovels, etc......

Roald · 07-30-2009, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

went though that with the trustee, and it's his call and he's already made it..

He told me he looked at as similar to a real estate agents client list - salable with consent but this is my chosen business and I'd rip everything I could out of the site if it was sold without my consent and I could legally do that too so they figured they'd make more money for my creditors garnishing my wages while in bankruptcy than selling it and having me attack it and ending up in legal battles. The site employs a lot of people, dumping it would put them all in financial trouble as well. So basically they give me a salary to live on and the trustee takes the profit from it, and in two years who knows what it'll be worth so there's a meeting then and probably a settlement. If they sell it it would have to go into trust for months with all the legal stuff around it and that would kill all the traffic and value. Yes there would still be some value, but after discussion and a lot of looking into they felt there's more if I work it and they take the excess. So the simple answer is I'm working for the bankrupsy trustee lol

No shit.

Quite the story man damn

ianlester · 07-30-2009, 10:10 AM

You will be back on top in no time.

CDSmith · 07-30-2009, 11:21 AM

I'll say this much, filing bankruptcy today doesn't come with the stigma and shame it once did. It's a setback, only. In fact it can sometimes be a major pain reliever. I've known several who have filed for it over the years, all of them are back in the game and surviving just fine, you will too I'm sure.

I would however avoid like the plague any future ongoing debt arrangments that come with a 30% interest rate attached.

ArielRebel · 08-04-2009, 02:53 PM

Oh shit!

So sorry to heard that man... Don't get depress I'm sure you will be back on your feet soon

Stay positive!!

Send you ton's of good vibrations from Montreal

xxx

sextoyking · 08-04-2009, 03:25 PM

Best of Luck SD

Jade509 · 08-11-2009, 10:54 AM

sad shit

07-29-2009, 05:58 PM	#253
Holly Lez! She's back Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,480	Thanks for sharing. I am sure you will be back on your feet in no time. And fuck all the negative talkers (umm not literally unless they are hot) no one should judge you til they look in the mirror~ __________________ [email protected] Skype: hollyruprecht

07-29-2009, 06:22 PM	#256
Jake Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: CO, US Posts: 3,056	Knowing Scott as I do I'm sure he'll bounce back quickly from this. __________________

07-29-2009, 06:24 PM	#257
ModelPerfect Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 2,862	I can't tell you how much I appreciate you posting that, Sleazy. I've been struggling with similar issues, and unless someone has been there, they can't understand how stressful and demoralizing it is. It's humbling, to say the least. There are certain people in the industry who most everyone looks up to in one way or another, and I'm certain you're one of them. To hear and understand that this can happen to anyone, even the guys you admire, is in a way motivating. I hate to hear you're having all the trouble, but it does help to know we're not alone. That financial hardship doesn't strike personally...sometimes shit just happens and keeps happening. Thank you, and I wish you the best of luck, Sleazy! __________________ Logan modelperfect [at] gmail.com http://www.modelperfect.com (Proudly hosted at www.webair.com )

07-29-2009, 06:31 PM	#261
BVF Black Vagina Finder Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Midwest Posts: 13,975	This is fucked....It's like being one of the first prospectors to arrive in California during the gold rush of 1849....You get there and stake a big claim and haul in big chunks of gold...You then have a nice operation going and you leave to start an oil company... Then the oil men eat you alive and all of that inital gold rush money is now gone.....Then after all of that, having to go back to California to find a new way to pan for gold....Except that the gold rush is already over.... Sleazy, if I were you, I would do what I said to do years ago and that's MOVE THE FUCK OUTTA CANADA!!. I don't see a reason for remaining in a cold climate all alone.....And now that the house is gone and the good friend is gone, pack up skufty and hit Panama or Belize....Then you can get you a nice native girl and pop out some kids while living cheaply in another country. That's at least what I'M gonna do. __________________ Black Pussy Click On Mr Cosby..CCbill, 60/40, 136 FHG's....The Cos Loves Black Ghetto Pussy!!

07-29-2009, 07:07 PM	#269
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07-29-2009, 05:29 PM	#251
_Richard_ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 30,986	best of luck Sleazy!

07-29-2009, 06:09 PM	#254
Bojangles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,419	That's crazy. Good luck, man.

07-29-2009, 06:59 PM	#262
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,478	Sleazy, How did you retain ownership in your sites and corporations through bankruptcy? Very interested in the answer to this question. I always thought ownership in your companies went when you filed for bankruptcy as they're assets?

07-29-2009, 07:54 PM	#273
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Crazy story, least you got porn to lean on __________________ [email protected]

07-29-2009, 08:22 PM	#275
Dodge2hot Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 197	hate to hear it. happens way to often. __________________ Sexy N Nude

07-29-2009, 08:57 PM	#278
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,811	You survived and you're still here. You know who your real friends are, what is really important and won't ever make the same mistakes twice. I'm proud of you. Friends till the end through up, down, sideways, backwards. All my best, Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

07-29-2009, 10:13 PM	#279
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	I only read a page and a half, and I'm laughing my ass off at all the keyboard warriors telling Sleazy he should have done this that or the other thing....with their 20/20 hindsight. Meanwhile, most of the people mouthing off don't have two nickels of their own to rub together. A big part of business is knowing when to fish, and when to cut bait. Hey Scott, sorry to hear this happened, and sorry you had to share it publicly because some asshole was trying to hold it over your head. FWIW, here is a list of some notable people who have filed for bankruptcy. Walt Disney William C. Durant (founder of GM) PT Barnum (before he started the circus) Ulysses S. Grant Milton Snavely Hershey (his first 4 candy companies failed) Abraham Lincoln Thomas Paine Rembrandt Donald Trump Mark Twain Oscar Wilde Henry Ford (First two car companies failed) HJ Heinz To make it in business you have to take some risks. Most of the idiots sniping in this thread haven't even taken the "risk" of moving out of their parent's house yet. __________________ sig too big

07-29-2009, 10:33 PM	#280
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,215	Sad story Scott but you'll pull through. My first question though is why didn't you incorporate a company and put the bar under your its name? That way if it went bankrupt, you would not have been personnaly liable and wouldn't have lost all of your personnal stuff. I've never incorporated a company myself, so I might be dead wrong on this... __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

07-29-2009, 10:49 PM	#281
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	Clubs are tough animals. I managed bars and ran clubs for 12 years before I came into adult. If you need anything let me know. I'll do my best to help you out. Buy some ads, traffic, etc.

07-29-2009, 11:20 PM	#282
JaneB Guest Posts: n/a	I am sorry to read that Scott. It is horrible that you posted all of this because an asshole with to much time on his hands was threatening you.

07-29-2009, 11:50 PM	#285
DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	You took a risk in trying to expand your business, you just picked something you didn't have enough experience in plus sounds like you got shafted some. With hard work you should be able to rebound in some manner. Good luck. __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303

07-30-2009, 12:36 AM	#286
fatal attraction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: where ever he is! Posts: 6,522	I'm soooo sorry Scott!!!!! I haven't been on gfy much at all in awhile but I heard about this thread and had to come look. I wish you the best! You really should out this moron that was trying to blackmail you! I'm guessing since you are such a nice guy, you won't.....but think about it! He deserves it!!!!!! I wish you nothing but the best!

07-30-2009, 12:53 AM	#287
mikesinner Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 5,646	This is why you never associate with drug addicts much less do business with them. __________________ My Best Sponsors MPl l Camsl CUMSHOTSl LESBIANSl FETISHl BJ RACESl TEEN BJl BSDMl VODl USE YOUR PC TO CURE CANCER

07-30-2009, 01:05 AM	#288
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	I don't know if it's been the recession or what, but there has been a lot of old timers who have gone broke. Not just small board names, but people who had major sites and major programs. It seems like every other day I'm hearing about someone who was making mad cash 5 years ago not being able to cover their rent.

07-30-2009, 01:30 AM	#289
CarlosTheGaucho Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,510	Well no matter if it ended up this or other way - that's business and kudos to anyone who's not afraid to risk. I'm sure everything will work out well, wishing more successful adventures in the future. __________________ CTG Media \| skype: carlosprague \| cb \|at\| ctgmedia \|dot\| net \| Want to make more with your Dating Traffic? \| Read My Educational Series \| Read my Adult Biz Chronicles \| Did your ad revenue drop by 40 pct. or more last year?

07-30-2009, 01:38 AM	#290
AsianDivaGirlsWebDude Purveyor, Fine Asian Porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 38,323	Didn't read the thread (it's on friggin' page 6 already)... Anyway, a few pearls of wisdom: Nothing ventured, nothing gained... Winners never quit, and quitters never win... La dee la dee, la dee la da dah, la dee la da dah!!! ADG __________________ Asian Diva Girls - Exclusive Photos and Videos Asian Diva Girls Affiliate Program (50% ccBill Revshare)

07-30-2009, 06:35 AM	#293
WebCompanyInc So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 257	Easy come easy go--- fuck it thats life The very worst thing to do is dwell on it and set goals based on it .. Just bust your ass again and rebound Theres still plenty of money in porn

07-30-2009, 10:10 AM	#296
ianlester Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 207	You will be back on top in no time. __________________ Adnium - CPMv Adnetwork

07-30-2009, 11:21 AM	#297
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I'll say this much, filing bankruptcy today doesn't come with the stigma and shame it once did. It's a setback, only. In fact it can sometimes be a major pain reliever. I've known several who have filed for it over the years, all of them are back in the game and surviving just fine, you will too I'm sure. I would however avoid like the plague any future ongoing debt arrangments that come with a 30% interest rate attached. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

08-04-2009, 02:53 PM	#298
ArielRebel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,479	Oh shit! So sorry to heard that man... Don't get depress I'm sure you will be back on your feet soon Stay positive!! Send you ton's of good vibrations from Montreal xxx __________________ ArielRebel.com - RebelMayhem - Zesty & Spicy - Twitter - Instagram

08-04-2009, 03:25 PM	#299
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Best of Luck SD __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

08-11-2009, 10:54 AM	#300
Jade509 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,166	sad shit __________________