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Elli · 07-29-2009, 02:21 PM

I believe the delicate term is "First Nations."

Any club will look lame with the lights on. I was quite surprised the first time I saw one of my favourite haunts with the lights on and all the sticky tables, etc etc. Not to mention the bartender wasn't nearly as hot as with the lights off... ;)

Kudos to Scott for giving it a try in a terribly competitive and rough industry.

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

I understand your point, but for 6 years on this board the majority of Sleazy's posts were self righteous and people are remembering them now that he's down.

actually i WAS down, now that i'm BACK in adult i don't consider myself down anymore

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTM

What does this have to do with anything?

You said Sleazy was some kind of business genius, and that most people won't achieve anything close to him.

Well, to me it looks like Sleazy hasn't achieved shit. He got hustled by some idiots for hundreds on thousands of money, ran into the ground his club and his online business, and finally announced bankruptcy.

Just pointing out that there isn't anything special about him.

Actually, everything points to him being an idiot.

my online biz isn't in the ground, it's still doing well actually

Anthony · 07-29-2009, 02:27 PM

Shitty fucking thread.

Man invested, lost his investment. End of story.

STAROTICA · 07-29-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vexes

Is Randy West still alive?

bashing threads are just way 2

btw...i am not laughing at you Sleazy....just the attempts of the others with weak board put downs.....come on people....

datatank · 07-29-2009, 02:30 PM

How are there high end aboriginals in this town?
Im fascinated

Dirty Dane · 07-29-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Farang

digitaldivas · 07-29-2009, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San

I guess not many people have been to real clubs.

If you visited European club scene, you'd probably shit yourself.

....lmafo, how right you are! ...what he said

pocketkangaroo · 07-29-2009, 03:03 PM

The club looks fine aesthetically. It looks more like an issue with bringing in the right types of people. 90% of running a succesful club is being able to draw in the right crowds and have the right people doing it.

Mutt · 07-29-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

The club looks fine aesthetically. It looks more like an issue with bringing in the right types of people. 90% of running a succesful club is being able to draw in the right crowds and have the right people doing it.

you're talking about Winnipeg - the murder capital of Canada. it's a rough town. I always ask John what do the young affluent 30 and 40 something year old people like lawyers, accountants, corporate types do there. they don't have much choice.

lazycash · 07-29-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

Please dont confuse his board persona ,with him in real life. BUT , I understand what you are saying

Even Sleazy disagrees with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

I act in person EXACTLY as I act on GFY.

Ron2k1 · 07-29-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

my online biz isn't in the ground, it's still doing well actually

It sure does, but what will happen next year?

Your traffic will be gone soon, only if you inovate you will keep on track

Adam_M · 07-29-2009, 04:11 PM

Maybe not the hottest club in town but fuck, how many other GFY'ers own night clubs?

JFK · 07-29-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Even Sleazy disagrees with you.

What the fuck does he know ?

StickyGreen · 07-29-2009, 04:31 PM

lol @ Winnipeg...

Agent 488 · 07-29-2009, 04:56 PM

that you tried to bring in a native gang crowd when your previous experience was an internet and message board kingpin shows how extremely naive you were.

people must have been licking their chops when they saw such a fat and easy mark walk into their view.

no hate. but just grab some street sense.

2012 · 07-29-2009, 05:37 PM

at least he can say he owned a club once

07-29-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam_WildCash

Maybe not the hottest club in town but fuck, how many other GFY'ers own night clubs?

Every single one of them, and it's the hottest club in the WORLD, VIP even wait in line for the VIPMITVIP (Very Important People, More Important Than VIP), to do their thing.

lagcam · 07-29-2009, 06:17 PM

Threads like this (and the original one it is based on) are interesting not because of the content of the original post but by the reactions of the subsequent posters.....haters, gloaters, people who think he deserved it becaue they don't like him for some other reason, sympathisers who can relate to the guy based on their own experiences, and people with a history with the guy and probably don't like him, but nevertheless still offer sympathy.

I personally don't know who this guy is, was, will be, and don't really care, but if even half of what he says is true, then yes he has made some bad judgements, (some of them forced on him due to cirumstances), but he has also had a lot of bad luck. Bad luck, that would have also most likely knocked back even the smartest assed knowalls here.

I would wager that the harshest critics here have not experienced either business success or failure, because if they had, they would know how close the two often are, and would be more sympathetic.

For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.

Anyway good luck sleazy.

ArsewithClass · 07-29-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Shitty fucking thread.

Man invested, lost his investment. End of story.

He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!

Blingbaby · 07-29-2009, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmiDean

Looks like any other night club to me ?

Looks like a tacky bar that would take forever to turn a profit..

Blingbaby · 07-29-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Besides the small crowd, what do you see that's so crappy about it? Seriously.

Your taste in women pretty much disqualifies you to even comment in this thread

Blingbaby · 07-29-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazycash

I understand your point, but for 6 years on this board the majority of Sleazy's posts were self righteous and people are remembering them now that he's down.

Karma's a bitch!

STAROTICA · 07-29-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!

I would like to see more of them......I look in phone book....see none.....

Blingbaby · 07-29-2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam

Threads like this (and the original one it is based on) are interesting not because of the content of the original post but by the reactions of the subsequent posters.....haters, gloaters, people who think he deserved it becaue they don't like him for some other reason, sympathisers who can relate to the guy based on their own experiences, and people with a history with the guy and probably don't like him, but nevertheless still offer sympathy.

I personally don't know who this guy is, was, will be, and don't really care, but if even half of what he says is true, then yes he has made some bad judgements, (some of them forced on him due to cirumstances), but he has also had a lot of bad luck. Bad luck, that would have also most likely knocked back even the smartest assed knowalls here.

I would wager that the harshest critics here have not experienced either business success or failure, because if they had, they would know how close the two often are, and would be more sympathetic.

For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.

Anyway good luck sleazy.

There have been over the years plenty threads with people that went down on their luck and the responses in this post so far are tame compared to the malice Sleazy spit into the faces of people that found themselves in the same shoes he found himself in.

bauhaus · 07-29-2009, 06:57 PM

I sooo love native girls... only reason to ever go back to canada... "Aboriginal Strippers"

I would live on the reservation. Sexually at least.

T

cam_girls · 07-29-2009, 07:05 PM

most of the clubs I went to were just big empty rooms with a bar. Looks like a huge club. But I think Sleazy overreacted to the gun, if you're using metal detectors then your bouncers slacked off, just increase security, open up the 2nd floor and double the crowd.

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SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lagcam

For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.

Anyway good luck sleazy.

that says a lot..

thank you for the kind words

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!

i soooo want to own a swing club one day, it's the ONLY kind of club I'm interested in

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blingbaby

There have been over the years plenty threads with people that went down on their luck and the responses in this post so far are tame compared to the malice Sleazy spit into the faces of people that found themselves in the same shoes he found himself in.

can you show me one example?

CDSmith · 07-29-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

that isn't a client, that's one of my security guards... he's 6'3 and in the biz for 20+ years. VERY scarry guy to people who were bad..... lol

rob was awesome. I believed in older guards, they are much better

That looks like the same Rob I worked with a few times at the outdoor rock fests around Manitoba years ago.

If so he's a good guy, definitely the right temperment for door work.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-29-2009, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

He should have turned it into a sex club! Gaurenteed, Naked women walking around & I bet those couches would have been filled with people!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i soooo want to own a swing club one day, it's the ONLY kind of club I'm interested in

Think micro-niche swingers club, maybe Skufty can pitch in:

Operating a business that requires lots of working capital is a roller coaster ride...lots of ups and downs, and you have to hold on because there is rarely a dull moment.

ADG

MichaelP · 07-29-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JFK

You are right, clubs do look like that with the lights on, its the lights dimmed and the crowds at night and the music that create the athmosphere. Stop the hate, a lot of you trolls will never make in your lifetime, what Scott has done in the last few years

words of wisdom as usual

Nicky · 07-29-2009, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony

Shitty fucking thread.

Man invested, lost his investment. End of story.

I have to agree.

alias · 07-29-2009, 07:32 PM

RT@

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

that you tried to bring in a native gang crowd when your previous experience was an internet and message board kingpin shows how extremely naive you were.

people must have been licking their chops when they saw such a fat and easy mark walk into their view.

no hate. but just grab some street sense.

Vitasoy · 07-29-2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

http://www.icx.ca/PropertyPhotos.asp...ertyID=8428624

looks decent to me, just poor lighting in the pics and not enough folks chilling

MichaelP · 07-29-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ztik

OMG someone needs to post pics of that shit, was so funny so "elite"

The one at Byscaine Bay's Castle in Florida at Internext (few years ago) was very nice an fun

FreeHugeMovies · 07-29-2009, 08:05 PM

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BV · 07-29-2009, 08:12 PM

No risk no reward.

You win some and you lose some.

Life goes on.

xenigo · 07-29-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by atom

Does it really surprise anyone that somebody is digging at sleazy on the board? I have nothing against him (except that damn business card he gave me that almost killed me) He was an ass to a lot of people on this board for a lot of years. I'm actually surprised more people are not shitting on him atm.

Welcome back sleazy ;-)

He's one of the most disrespectful people in this industry. He has rarely had anything constructive to say. If you were hurting, he'd come and stomp on your face... then kick you in the nuts. If you were asking for advice, he'd call you a loser. If someone was giving advice, he'd call them a loser.

I too, am quite surprised people aren't returning the favor.

Karma's a bitch, Sleazy.

SleazyDream · 07-29-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo

He's one of the most disrespectful people in this industry. He has rarely had anything constructive to say. If you were hurting, he'd come and stomp on your face... then kick you in the nuts. If you were asking for advice, he'd call you a loser. If someone was giving advice, he'd call them a loser.

I too, am quite surprised people aren't returning the favor.

Karma's a bitch, Sleazy.

can you quote one instance where I did that?

VeriSexy · 07-29-2009, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

here's some pics of the club from when i took it over

Looks decent to me

robfantasy · 07-30-2009, 12:02 AM

club advice:

since the area you are in is not filled w/ beautiful sexy people or high rolling VIP's, you should have turned that into a gay friendly club.

believe it or not, gay friendly clubs (where gays and gay activity is tolerated but straights still come to party) make alot of money.

im not saying a hard core gay club with leather pants and no shirts, but where college kids and gay first timers come for the dance music and the bi curious get turned out.

i know lots of straight people who own these types of clubs and make a killing

mikesinner · 07-30-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by San

Jesus Christs, how can you even call it a club

Coming from you, this doesn't sound too encouraging.

Looks like most clubs in the Midwest to me.

Iron Fist · 07-30-2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

lol @ Winnipeg...

Yeah.. don't come here... you'd probably get shot anyways.

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Iron Fist · 07-30-2009, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes

you live in the peg. you never heard of sonar at all?

I have.. just never went... I don't really frequent a lot of the club lately anyways.... just too much bullshit after hours and I'm getting too old for bullshit these days

Ross · 07-30-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD

Damn that dude is huge !!

No shit eh? Our clubs dont even let guys half his size in for fear that it will take too many bouncers to control him if it all kicks off... We have a hard time getting Mick and Steven into clubs, they would be like bean poles next to this dude!!

NikKay · 07-30-2009, 05:42 AM

[QUOTE=lagcam;16121234]Threads like this (and the original one it is based on) are interesting not because of the content of the original post but by the reactions of the subsequent posters.....haters, gloaters, people who think he deserved it becaue they don't like him for some other reason, sympathisers who can relate to the guy based on their own experiences, and people with a history with the guy and probably don't like him, but nevertheless still offer sympathy.

I personally don't know who this guy is, was, will be, and don't really care, but if even half of what he says is true, then yes he has made some bad judgements, (some of them forced on him due to cirumstances), but he has also had a lot of bad luck. Bad luck, that would have also most likely knocked back even the smartest assed knowalls here.

I would wager that the harshest critics here have not experienced either business success or failure, because if they had, they would know how close the two often are, and would be more sympathetic.

For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with.
QUOTE]

Quoted for "I totally agree!"

Quite a few have gotten puffy chests over the years and acted like assholes, and I can't say whether or not Sleazy was one of them. So maybe karma was due... or maybe it was just bad luck and/or bad decisions.

Either way, it's not a bad looking club for the location. I live in Raleigh, NC and we certainly don't have any "European" style clubs to compare what we do have to. If someone opened a club like this here and catered to the 21+ college crowd, they'd do well for at least a few months.

ronaldo · 07-30-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo

He's one of the most disrespectful people in this industry. He has rarely had anything constructive to say. If you were hurting, he'd come and stomp on your face... then kick you in the nuts. If you were asking for advice, he'd call you a loser. If someone was giving advice, he'd call them a loser.

I too, am quite surprised people aren't returning the favor.

Karma's a bitch, Sleazy.

On the boards? I might agree. In the INDUSTRY? Totally disagree. The industry extends far beyond GFY.

I'm not a big fan of board personas and I disagree with Sleazy if he says he acts the same on GFY as he does in person. He can come ACROSS that way in person in a casual encounter (he did the first couple of times I met him), but if you actually spend some time with him, he's one of the most generous people in the industry.

The last time I think I saw Scott was at the Vegas (I THINK) airport and he was with his brother. We had hung out a few times before and we were just shooting the shit and for absolutely no reason, he asked me if I'd like an upgrade to first class. After a show I was always exhausted and hate flying so don't do anything other than sleep on the plane, so I politely declined. There are a TON of other stories like that about Scott out there.

Anyways, sorry to hear about your club Scott. I'd been wanting to get out there and pop in for a visit but frankly, rarely if ever drive in to Winnipeg. The mom-in-law is there so I tend to steer clear.

Good to see you back even if the circumstances are less than ideal.

07-29-2009, 02:21 PM	#101
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	I believe the delicate term is "First Nations." Any club will look lame with the lights on. I was quite surprised the first time I saw one of my favourite haunts with the lights on and all the sticky tables, etc etc. Not to mention the bartender wasn't nearly as hot as with the lights off... ;) Kudos to Scott for giving it a try in a terribly competitive and rough industry. __________________ Make More Money with Cams and Dating at FFN.com! email: [email protected]

07-29-2009, 02:27 PM	#104
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07-29-2009, 03:03 PM	#109
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	The club looks fine aesthetically. It looks more like an issue with bringing in the right types of people. 90% of running a succesful club is being able to draw in the right crowds and have the right people doing it.

07-29-2009, 04:56 PM	#116
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	that you tried to bring in a native gang crowd when your previous experience was an internet and message board kingpin shows how extremely naive you were. people must have been licking their chops when they saw such a fat and easy mark walk into their view. no hate. but just grab some street sense.

07-29-2009, 06:17 PM	#119
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NikKay Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,642	[QUOTE=lagcam;16121234]Threads like this (and the original one it is based on) are interesting not because of the content of the original post but by the reactions of the subsequent posters.....haters, gloaters, people who think he deserved it becaue they don't like him for some other reason, sympathisers who can relate to the guy based on their own experiences, and people with a history with the guy and probably don't like him, but nevertheless still offer sympathy. I personally don't know who this guy is, was, will be, and don't really care, but if even half of what he says is true, then yes he has made some bad judgements, (some of them forced on him due to cirumstances), but he has also had a lot of bad luck. Bad luck, that would have also most likely knocked back even the smartest assed knowalls here. I would wager that the harshest critics here have not experienced either business success or failure, because if they had, they would know how close the two often are, and would be more sympathetic. For me, a thread like this gives me a good indication of which people that I could do business with and people who I will not be doing business with. QUOTE] Quoted for "I totally agree!" Quite a few have gotten puffy chests over the years and acted like assholes, and I can't say whether or not Sleazy was one of them. So maybe karma was due... or maybe it was just bad luck and/or bad decisions. Either way, it's not a bad looking club for the location. I live in Raleigh, NC and we certainly don't have any "European" style clubs to compare what we do have to. If someone opened a club like this here and catered to the 21+ college crowd, they'd do well for at least a few months.