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Old 07-29-2009, 02:18 PM   #1
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I Need a Third Coder 4 Follow Projects. Step Inside.

Now that I am almost done finishing up some prior commitments, it's on to the next step(s). I have borked working on some of my main stuff, but he is just one guy. I have konrad for some other things and I need a third.

These guys are fucking solid programmers and worth every dime btw!

Here is what I have on tap for the 4th quarter.

You need to have good experience in some of the following things.

*Social Network.
*Dating.
*API
*Messenger.
*Mobile.
*Tube/FLV/Flash


We are going to be building these as module pieces. So one coder could be working on one thing, and another on a different piece, etc..

I already have the rough draft of the project in place. Prez is going to be project manager on this thing. So he can oversee the designers and coders. Freeing me up to not play e-mail tag.

It is planned to run over 4th quarter of this year, and a good chunk of 2010. So being able to commit to that long term is key. I am not looking for pay check players.

Since this is going to be a major long term project. You need to have some recommendations behind you for me to consider you for a spot on this. If you have someone you can recommend, but all means, hit me up and I will check them out.

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Post in this thread please if interested, or want to be considered.

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Borked is the man. Good luck in your search. Finding good programmers is never an easy task. Bump.
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Andy is fucking awesome!

When I first started working with him, he knocked out shit in an hour that would take others half to a full day to do. He also is very fair on work.

Even better yet, he provides you a link to track the cost of your project, and the time log of when he worked on it.

I like konrad as well. His code is fucking solid, and he does excellent work.

These guys are highly recommended in this industry, and not cheap. There is a reason for it. They are worth every penny. Excellent communication. Solid code. No bullshit.

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Are you promoting Konrad and Borked or ..trying to find a coder? (J/K)

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By the sounds of the guys he's got, it's PHP.
Then hit me up Footsies ;) If everything is being developed modular then I'd like take a look at the framework before I agree to anything. I've been developing professionally in PHP for 10 years. I currently manage a team of 6 PHP developers as a full time job but just bought a house so I could use some extra income for the 2 billion things I'd like to add to the house

I have a stellar record and can provide any number of recommendations (they'll be mainstream as the adult space is something I'm taking up on the side).

The framework I'd be developing around is a make or break for me as I run a tight ship where I work and I'm very particular about code. At my current job, the framework and cost base I've developed supports a site with over half a million unique visitors a day and deploys across 240 servers. Scalability is a must and with it comes the requirement of a much finer grain of detail than most projects call for.

Hit me up though, I'd love to talk. If you want your current guys on a call so they can grill me on my level of skill; feel free. I'm also a published author on Linux, Apache, MySQL, and PHP. You'd be hard pressed to find someone more skilled. All of my code is very streamlined, follows the MVC design pattern, is optimized for PHP5, completely OO, and scalable to any size.

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I prefer not to do Ruby. Only because it is hard to find good coders long term.

This project is a 1-2 year and ongoing modular project. So I need a consistent language, like PHP, where I can easily find coders for the differnent pieces and add-on's that will happen over time.

I hear great things about Ruby (even borked recommended it), but that is my biggest hang up. Lack of good RonR programmers down the line if you need more help, or need to swap out coders.
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Even better yet, he provides you a link to track the cost of your project, and the time log of when he worked on it.




That is very rare, and really cool. A programmer that lets you see what is going on real time, his progress and how much it is costing you. What a novel idea, but yet so few do it.
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That is very rare, and really cool. A programmer that lets you see what is going on real time, his progress and how much it is costing you. What a novel idea, but yet so few do it.
That is one of many reasons borked is probably the best, or one of, in this industry and in such high demand, and can charge a premium.

Accountability.

What a novel concept. A coder who runs his operation, ya know, like an actual fucking business. Very rare indeed.

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That is one of many reasons borked is probably the best, or one of, in this industry and in such high demand, and can charge a premium.

Accountability.

What a novel concept. A coder who runs his operation, ya know, like an actual fucking business. Very rare indeed.

Ummm you should be providing an RFP to developers and they should be providing you with a proposal in return with an exact cost, hourly break down, and contract. Sounds like there's mostly amateurs providing development for the adult industry...
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Not interested in working with me Footsies? If not, just hit me up with a no. I just like to know what's on my horizon; possibilities and/or projects so I can plan accordingly Thanks!
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That is not it at all bud.

I am just getting some more responses so I can go through a bunch of people at once and see who fits the bill. I just got back from Internext last night, so I am still in catch up mode and unpacking.

It is nothing personal towards you. You look qualified, and top of the pack at this point based on responses in this, and other, threads and contacts I have talked to on all these projects, as well as my long term one.
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Hahah ok thanks for the response... I say that as I've responded to a few other threads and nobody actually contacts me back even after emailing and posting responses (aimed specifically at SteveLightspeed)... Take your time, you know where to find me
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That is very rare, and really cool. A programmer that lets you see what is going on real time, his progress and how much it is costing you. What a novel idea, but yet so few do it.
Thanks, yeah I added that quite a while ago as everyone wins - I don't get lost in time allocation and cost across multiple clients/projects, the client sees when I'm actually working on their stuff (and on what exactly as it's always logged based on category) and at the end of a project (or month) can see for themselves actually how long a given project takes - when one coder says 1 week's work, then is it one week's solid graft or 1 week of a bit-here-a-bit-there. More often than not it's like 20 hrs work when hands-on time is logged to the minute. So why not pay for 20 hours, rather than 1 week - I know my rate for 20 hours of work is a shit lot less than 1 week's work.

And for those that want to pay up-front for a project, or pays monthly for a monthly-commit, then it is still the same - the time is still logged (but at ?0/hr), so the client still sees what is being worked on (because monthly commits often involve multiple projects), when it is being worked on and for how long each session. That way, monthly commit people know they are getting a month's work, and per-project people know I'm not doing like 5hrs/week on their stuff and pushing them down the pile of priorities.


I see someone mentioned above that this situation is amateurish, but hey, they're just getting into adult, and believe me I think this is the best situation for adult (my clients anyway) - whether it's a $50 script or $10k project, everything is up front. If I don't work on your stuff, you see I'm not working on your stuff, and you aren't paying for me to not work on your stuff.


And above all, it helps me track shit so I know what I'm doing!!


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Andy is fucking awesome!

When I first started working with him, he knocked out shit in an hour that would take others half to a full day to do. He also is very fair on work.

Even better yet, he provides you a link to track the cost of your project, and the time log of when he worked on it.

I like konrad as well. His code is fucking solid, and he does excellent work.

These guys are highly recommended in this industry, and not cheap. There is a reason for it. They are worth every penny. Excellent communication. Solid code. No bullshit.


Thanks BF for the prompts. However, note to people, I'm up to my eyeballs for quite a while with current clients - I can always tell when someone has hit the boards saying good things about me cos my IM lights up with "Please authorize me: Hey Borked, xxxxx recommended you on yyyyy, you available for work?" incessantly

Not that I'm complaining!

For those of you who feel left out and always searching, you can hit up John (JJSLIMM) (contact-at-adultboost com) as he has simply *the* best teams of coders for ALL situations that I'm proud to be a part of from time to time. Design, programming, admin, he can sort you out with the best person for the job, and see the project through to the end.
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I see someone mentioned above that this situation is amateurish, but hey, they're just getting into adult, and believe me I think this is the best situation for adult (my clients anyway) - whether it's a $50 script or $10k project, everything is up front. If I don't work on your stuff, you see I'm not working on your stuff, and you aren't paying for me to not work on your stuff.
Your situation is definitely not amateur at all, hope I didn't offend you as you are certainly handling things very professionally.

In my experience doing freelance work in the mainstream (mostly for larger projects) I usually ask for an RFP up front. Then I'll meet with the client and help them flesh out their RFP and answer any questions I may have in order to put together a proper proposal. The proposal I return is a final price. It includes the upfront cost of using my base framework I've developed over the 10 years, an estimated amount of client to developer contact time (billed at a much lower rate and I never charge for overages on communication), a break down of the core functionality and each piece of functionality to be included on the site with hourly breakdowns for each. This allows the client to adjust their final product by dropping functionality, adding functionality, or changing the way something works in order to bring costs down, etc...

This is the final price and I'm up front with the client letting them know that any additional changes to the site during the development will be put in as a change order and billed as an additional line item. I also let them know that changing functionality will most likely effect the timeline for the project as well. Of course I give them the whole "some things may see easy conceptually but be very complex programmatically while the opposite may also be true" drill.

I've found this to be the easiest way to work on projects with clients while protecting myself from massive scope creep. You know as well as I do how fast people can change their minds about the way something looks or works :P If it's a quick change obviously I'll throw it in at no additional cost to keep the client happy and billing 15 min worth of work is a bit ridiculous.

What I was referring to as amateur are the developers saying, "I can do that in 2 weeks" or "I'll do that for $4,500" or "I'll work on that at $X / hr until it's done".

Using an RFP method also allows non developer clients to pick a developer or development company more carefully. While developer A may take twice as long as developer B, he may charge half as much because he is less experienced. The cost is the same but a client should be wary of going with developer A as the final product will most likely be less finished and more prone to bugs. While it still takes some knowledge in development even using an RFP it definitely helps cut down on a lot of the unknowns and facilitates a better decision in the end.
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you would be surprised how many are not amateurs that don't provide such things.
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I am not looking for any Indian 'teams' for this project.

I am looking for one additional super coder like a borked/konrad who has excellent communication skills, writes good code, and wants to be a part of a long term project(s).

If you have ever posted to a script lance type of site. You know what I mean about all the 'teams' or offices full of India coders and designers who contact you. How you can have that many people working for you and still do shit work, or blow deadlines is beyond me.
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I am not looking for any Indian 'teams' for this project.

I am looking for one additional super coder like a borked/konrad who has excellent communication skills, writes good code, and wants to be a part of a long term project(s).

If you have ever posted to a script lance type of site. You know what I mean about all the 'teams' or offices full of India coders and designers who contact you. How you can have that many people working for you and still do shit work, or blow deadlines is beyond me.
I fucking hate indian coders, I always have clients who want me to fix or clean up their shitty code that the indians charged pennies for. Usually it ends up costing my client more for me to fix or clean up the code than they paid for the code originally, plus how much I charge hourly to write the damn code from scratch.
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I fucking hate indian coders, I always have clients who want me to fix or clean up their shitty code that the indians charged pennies for. Usually it ends up costing my client more for me to fix or clean up the code than they paid for the code originally, plus how much I charge hourly to write the damn code from scratch.
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Good luck with it. I have some people that I have worked with in the past that I am more than comfortable recommending, so I'll point them to this thread.
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Good luck with it. I have some people that I have worked with in the past that I am more than comfortable recommending, so I'll point them to this thread.
Thanks bud.

I have one long term project that I am planning to put $10-15k into over 12-18 months.

Then I have some smaller projects as well. konrad is handling some, borked some others. But they also have their own clients and only so many hours in the day.

Once thing I respect about both of them is that they will tell you that upfront. That way their reputations do not suffer. They only take on, and commit to, what they know they can do with their normal excellent reputation and caliber of work.

It leaves me hanging, but I still respect them for being upfront. I am glad I still have them for my CMS, and other shit they are working on for me right now.

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I may have someone ... I'll see if he's available and if so, I'll have him hit u up. He's kick ass. Did our tube site, api's etc
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Thanks bud.

I have one long term project that I am planning to put $10-15k into over 12-18 months.
I haven't even pretended that I can take on projects for the last year or so; I won't even try. I can't. I, however, have some friends who do have some time when they're not doing their 'day job' that are pretty damn good at what they do. I wish you the best of luck.
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For the bigger projects. Here are some 'base line' sites provided to the other guys on what I am looking for. Once you get into the complexity of building a module based site for the different pieces, plus what I want out of it, you start to see where it can be complete.

Baseline Site #1
http://www.abk-soft.com/datingscript...ml#flash_games

Baseline Site #2
http://www.imusictools.com/

Baseline Site #3
http://thebeat.fm/

Some adult. Some mainstream. These are just some 'baseline' sites referenced in the work needed. There is much more to them, but I am not going to get to it on the board. These are the longer term projects in order.

The others are currently being handled by konrad and borked.
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Just finished the tool in my sig ... will give you an idea of what I do. 9+ years experience (mostly Perl/PHP/Linux/MySQL/JS). Nobody knows me around here yet but I hope to change that in the next year. I bust my balls but only for shit I have some interest in

I know ... go fuck myself now ... but the next tool I come out with I hope you'll say "that guy might be worth something"

Had to leave the non-adult biz due to family health issues ... next year I'm off to Thailand and hopefully by then I'll have a good adult gig to spend my time on in between golfing and laying at the beach with strange women. I know I don't meet your requirements but if you want to test me out on smaller projects ... hit me up.
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Just finished the tool in my sig ... will give you an idea of what I do. 9+ years experience (mostly Perl/PHP/Linux/MySQL/JS). Nobody knows me around here yet but I hope to change that in the next year. I bust my balls but only for shit I have some interest in

I know ... go fuck myself now ... but the next tool I come out with I hope you'll say "that guy might be worth something"

Had to leave the non-adult biz due to family health issues ... next year I'm off to Thailand and hopefully by then I'll have a good adult gig to spend my time on in between golfing and laying at the beach with strange women. I know I don't meet your requirements but if you want to test me out on smaller projects ... hit me up.
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