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Old 07-30-2009, 01:14 PM   #51
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Old 07-30-2009, 02:25 PM   #52
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Most of the girls say they are getting out of the business before they have even started, then find their way back in... Fingers crossed you can still have your chance to shoot with them!
The rent always comes up, and the transmissions usally break on their 15 yr old loafer
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:51 PM   #53
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There is less work and less money, my assistant is making more on mainstream sets being a simple DP than LA porn companies are offering shooters.
Mainstream DPs always made more than porn shooters - simply because there's more to being DP then to just plug a camera and point it in the general direction of where your models are fucking.
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Old 07-30-2009, 05:59 PM   #54
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I cant help reading this thread and hoping for something more sensational in the future. Models leaving is to be expected. But models leaving due to an outbreak of flesh eating bacteria . . . fascinating.
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:03 PM   #55
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I really dont see why anyone would take a threat of legal action if the girl signed a release. Thats sort of why we have them sign them. Even if it did make it to court you have a legal document and should have copies of her IDs showing you followed the law and she was paid, so no one can force you to do anything.

Escorting is bad. VERY VERY Bad! something like 80% of escorts (aka prostitutes) end up addicted to serious drugs like Heroin just from the shame of what they are doing. Atleast when your on a real porn set the guys are tested, your not alone with some guy who has to pay for pussy, and you dont have to worry about being beat, not paid, shit like that. The girls who degrade themselves for money via prostitution really need to rethink there actions. And for anyone who says being in porn is just as shameful i disagree, i been doing this for 6 years, and I enjoy the hell out of it. Hell Im married and still fantasize about my shoot with Tommy Gunn, that guy knows how to fuck and is so hot! You wont find guys like that escorting...
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:05 PM   #56
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Let me think here a second .... maybe .... just maybe .... this is the reason girls are quiting the biz ....

Girl Calls agent .... agent says to come on out to LA after seeing her photos and maybe even buys her plane ticket. Tells her to stay out for 3 weeks and she'll make a ton of money. Mandates that she stays in the model house so he can keep an eye on her (but really so he can collect rent from her). After being in LA for 3 weeks , the model gets 2 to 3 shoots , gets asked to suck her agents dick, probably gets propositioned by people on the set 5 times, ends up owing her agent 10 - 15 percent, 2 to 300 for each week in the model house, maybe paid her own airfare, testing, and after food and everything else basically just spent 3 weeks of sitting around waiting for all the work the agent said they'd have for them or promised them only to have it mysteriously disappear after getting there because of "cacellations" and ends up making absolutely nothing.

I've heard this time and time again since last summer .... the biz has too many girls and not enough work to keep them busy if they're from out of town. If you live in LA ... maybe makes a little more sense but still it's hardly good money at this point when you consider cost of living and the crap you have to put with in this industry. Escorting to them is an easy out .... maybe a more risky out .... but an easy out and at this point risk means nothing to these girls.

Just my though ....

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Old 07-30-2009, 06:08 PM   #57
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Bro I agree with everything but theres nothing simple about being a DP on mainstream sets - thats a far more advanced job than anything in the adult biz, and pays far more as it should. Did you mean to say "PA"?
Im not comparing porn shoots to mainstream film but HDV and DV video production on the same level like TV commercials, reality shows, & field production. Yeah there are a lot of dumbasses that shoot hardcore that literally just point the camera but some of us actually know how to shoot and deserve more than a PA. My assistant works on a lot of mainstream sets and had the same attitude about porn production until he started working on a real porn set. Im not doing big budget stuff here its not amateur either. Trying to get porn cheap will always keep the point and shoot guys employed but the guys that know how to shoot will always make more money and work the best models.
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Old 07-30-2009, 06:39 PM   #58
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Know several high end escorts who do bare back many times.
That reason alone is why condoms should be required in porn.

I'd feel different if talent were only sleeping with each other. The reality is that they're not. When in the heat of the moment, or hard up for cash, humans have the ability to make some really fucked up decisions.

Some like to say that porn will die if it goes safe only. Mainstream gay porn made the switch a long time ago and is doing fine. Do you think gay guys like seeing condoms? Most don't, but we also realize that it sets a good example and is done for everybody's safety.

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Old 07-30-2009, 07:14 PM   #59
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That reason alone is why condoms should be required in porn.

I'd feel different if talent were only sleeping with each other. The reality is that they're not. When in the heat of the moment, or hard up for cash, humans have the ability to make some really fucked up decisions.

Some like to say that porn will die if it goes safe only. Mainstream gay porn made the switch a long time ago and is doing fine. Do you think gay guys like seeing condoms? Most don't, but we also realize that it sets a good example and is done for everybody's safety.

What? I put up galleries in my gay section of one of my tgps everyday. I don't see much condom use.

And what does it matter if you'd "feel different" anyway? I know I don't want to watch porn with a condom. The first thing I think is: "Either the guy or the girl must have the clap". Total turn off.

I don't watch condom porn and I damn sure don't use a condom. This argument has already been done to death on here and statistics have been shown how hard it is for a woman to give HIV to a man and how hard it is for HIV to be spread anyway.

I think this is a case of younger folks being brainwashed. I've fucked THOUSANDS of girls over the last 3 decades. Never used a condom, never will and just had another full panel of blood work done 2 months ago as part of a yearly physical. Nice and clean.

And I have surely enjoyed feeling pussy on my cock instead of plastic. It's all about QUALITY of life for me. I could wear a rubber and hate it thinking I'm "safe" and then get into a car wreck and die (which is thousands and thousands of times more likely)
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:24 PM   #60
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A few goods ones that got away. It's like that sometimes unfortunately.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:29 PM   #61
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:31 PM   #62
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:22 PM   #63
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has anyone blamed tube sites yet?
Indirectly, stated that there's not enough work, which is due to alot of factors, tube sites probably being one of them,

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Old 07-30-2009, 11:04 PM   #64
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:01 AM   #65
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That is bad...they are pretty hot.
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Old 07-31-2009, 10:42 AM   #66
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Let me think here a second .... maybe .... just maybe .... this is the reason girls are quiting the biz ....

Girl Calls agent .... agent says to come on out to LA after seeing her photos and maybe even buys her plane ticket. Tells her to stay out for 3 weeks and she'll make a ton of money. Mandates that she stays in the model house so he can keep an eye on her (but really so he can collect rent from her). After being in LA for 3 weeks , the model gets 2 to 3 shoots , gets asked to suck her agents dick, probably gets propositioned by people on the set 5 times, ends up owing her agent 10 - 15 percent, 2 to 300 for each week in the model house, maybe paid her own airfare, testing, and after food and everything else basically just spent 3 weeks of sitting around waiting for all the work the agent said they'd have for them or promised them only to have it mysteriously disappear after getting there because of "cacellations" and ends up making absolutely nothing.

I've heard this time and time again since last summer .... the biz has too many girls and not enough work to keep them busy if they're from out of town. If you live in LA ... maybe makes a little more sense but still it's hardly good money at this point when you consider cost of living and the crap you have to put with in this industry. Escorting to them is an easy out .... maybe a more risky out .... but an easy out and at this point risk means nothing to these girls.

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Old 08-01-2009, 12:53 AM   #68
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Very true - and mommy doesn't ever see the pictures.
seriously. people overlook this. why do in front of a million people what you can do in front of only one for the same kind of scratch? A lot of girls ask themselves that question.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:41 AM   #69
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Escorting pays more for less time and is way more consistent. More girls are escorting now than ever before. They will miss scenes to turn trixx.
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Old 08-01-2009, 02:00 AM   #70
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Old 08-03-2009, 05:15 AM   #71
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Porn girls should never escort, it brings danger to the others they work with.
They get AIMS tested one day , escort and perhaps catch something bad,
and the next day give it to the person she works with on film. - NOT GOOD.

Escorting may be good for a girl that is not in the porn biz at all.

We should not hire girls who prostitute themselves. Never!

Damn Chris strokes is a gay, damn.. This is another danger, gays in straight porn.
Wow, looks like LA producers will over look anything to make the almighty dollar!

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Her parents found out? Where's the damn child support? make sure your daughter is taken care off ... so she wont have to show twat on the internet...
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:39 AM   #73
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