Any anti-vaccination nutters on this board?

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by Libertine

And that's a severe risk. Even walking past them on the street and coughing can kill them.

Lets goto extremes then. Ever heard of Bubble boy? Maybe we should rid the planet of any germs that way bubble boy can come out of his bubble. lmao. Just foolishness. If the have an immune system that weak they need to be in quarantine. Its not my job to patrol who might get sick by coming in contact with me. And are you saying that vaccines will keep germs that I came in contact with from someone else that are on my skin or clothes from infecting the person with the weak immune system? Pfft and you call me stupid. lol Vaccines stop the person from getting the illness not from spreading it. You don't have to have an illness to spread it, and a vaccine WILL NOT stop you from spreading it to someone that has a weak immune system. So how exactly does it protect those with weak immune systems.

And again I have to give up my rights so that someone incapable of fending off diseases can be safe. Utterly ridiculous.

[DWB]

I will not be getting a H1N1 vaccination. It's too new and of course there will be complications for many. No thanks.

[directfiesta]

The right wingers are correct in their refusal of taking vaccines.

Tough it will put at risk lifes of others, it will mainly be threatening theirs , making nature do its job of elimination. See nothing wrong with that

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Libertine

You've made me see the light, dude.

I'll go tell my professors in med school that they should stop relying on actual scientific studies, and should listen to the almighty baddog instead, who proclaims that studies and statistics are irrelevant and that anecdotal evidence is what truly matters.

Great idea. Let's go back to the dark ages, when everything was just so much better.

Ok show me the studies that show that the swine flu vaccine is safe and I will have no side effects happen 30 years down the road.

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

She had her rabies shots thats it. And whatever shots she got when I got her from the pound 13 years ago at 6 weeks or so of age. She had an ID tag for her collar. Do some reading up on how yearly vaccines for dogs take years and years off their lives. Most dogs should be able to live into their 20's. Vaccines reduce that by 5 years.

SF, it's interesting that you bring this up. My grandparents have owned numerous dogs, all of them have lived into their early twenties, and none of them have been anywhere near a vet.

[BFT3K]

Tinfoil Hat Time, or Peanut Butter and Jelly Time?...

WHO moves forward in secrecy to accomplish forced vaccination and population agenda

By Jane Burgermeister

The WHO has refused to release the Minutes of a key meeting of an advisory vaccine group ? packed with executives from Baxter, Novartis and Sanofi ? that recommended compulsory vaccinations in the USA, Europe and other countries against the artificial H1N1 ?swine flu? virus this autumn.

In an email this morning, a WHO spokesperson claimed there are no Minutes of the meeting that took place on July 7th in which guidelines on the need for worldwide vaccinations that WH0 adopted this Monday were formulated and in which Baxter and other pharma executives participated.

Under the International Health Regulations, WHO guidelines have a binding character on all of WHO?s 194 signatory countries in the event of a pandemic emergency of the kind anticipated this autumn when the second more lethal wave of the H1N1 virus ? which is bioengineered to resemble the Spanish flu virus ? emerges.

In short: WHO has the authority to force everyone in those 194 countries to take a vaccine this fall at gunpoint, impose quarantines and restrict travel.

There is verifiable, clear and unambiguous proof that WHO supplied the live bird flu virus to Baxter?s subsidiary in Austria, which was used by Baxter to manufacture 72 kilos of vaccine material in Febuary.

Baxter subsequently sent this material out to 16 labs in four countries under a false label designating the contaminated product as vaccine material, so nearly triggering a global pandemic.

Because Baxter must adhere to strict biosafety level 3 regulations when handling a dangerus virus such as the bird flu virus, the production and distribution of so much pandemic material cannot have been an accident but must have been done by Baxter with criminal intent.

The Austrian police are now investigating after I filed criminal charges in April.

It is increasingly clear that WHO and Baxter are just elements in a much bigger criminal organisation that is moving forward in a synchronised and coordinated way to fulfil the ?elite? agenda of global population reduction in the coming months and years while putting in place a global government of which WHO will be an arm.

WHO, a UN agency, appears to play a key role in coordinating the activities of labs, vaccine companies and governments to achieve the goal of population reduction and political and economic take over of North America and Europe:

- First, WHO gives funds, support and cover to labs such as the CDC to bioprospect for pathogens, bioengineer them to make them more deadly, and also patent them.

- Second, WHO gives those same deadly bioengineered pathogens to companies such as Baxter in Austria, so that Baxter could use those viruses to deliberately, systematically contaminate vaccine material. If the contamination of the 72 kilos had not been detection on time by a lab technician in the Czech Republic, millions of people would have caught the ?bird flu? from the injections.

- Third, in the event of a pandemic, WHO orders a compulsory vaccines for all 194 countries, following ?recommendations? by an advisory vaccine group on which executives of Baxter also sit.

- Fourth, WHO awards Baxter, Novartis, Sanofi and other companies lucrative contracts to supply those vaccines.

Furthermore, WHO acquires new global authority on an unseen scale in the event of a pandemic.

Under special pandemic plans enacted around the world including the USA, in 2005, national governments are to be dissolved in the event of a pandemic emergency and replaced by special crisis committees, which take charge of the health and security infrastructure of a country, and which are answerable to the WHO and EU in Europe and to the WHO and UN in North America.

If the Model Emergency Health Powers Act is implemented on the instructions of WHI, it will be a criminal offence for Americans to refuse the vaccine. Police are allowed to use deadly force against ?criminal? suspects.

Through their control of these special pandemic crisis committees with the power to enact legislation to be set up most countries, the WHO, UN and EU become the de facto government of a large part of the world.

Mass murder and death will also bring economic collapse and disruption, starvation and wars ? and these events will lead to a further population reduction.

To sum up: WHO helps create, distribute and then release the deadly pandemic virus, and this pandemic virus allows WHO to assume control of governments in North America and Europe and also order forced vaccination on populations by the very same companies that have distributed and released the deadly viruses in the first place and all under under the pretext of protecting populations from a pandemic they have created.

The corporate mainstream media owned by the same ?elite? group which funds WHO is systematically concealing from the general public the nature of the real danger of these H1N1 jabs by withholding from them key information concerning the interrelated activities of this group of organisations for their mutual profit.

As a result, most people still believe that the H1N1 virus is a natural swine flu when even WHO has officially dropped the term ?swine? in tactic acknowledgement of its artificial origin.

Most people still believe the vaccine companies can deliver a cure when the vaccine companies are preparing a lethal series of shots containg live attenuated virus, toxic metals and other poisons.

The two-dose H1N1 shots are designed to disable the immune system and then load that system with a live virus in a process that mirrors the one described in two of WHO?s 1972 memoranda where the technical means for turning vaccines into killers is outlined.

The Strecker Memorandum also reveals that WHO has been actively searching for ways to weaken the immune system.

The best protection against the H1N1 virus that has now been released and that will inevtiably become more lethal as it mutates in autumn is colloidal silver and also vitamins to strengthen the immune system, face masks and other such measures.

However, none of the governments in North America or Europe have stocked up on colloidal silver or announced sensible health measures to contain the coming lethal wave.

Instead, there are growing signs, they will use the panic to terrify people into taking the toxic vaccines which are sure to cause injury or damage because of the presence of heavy metals alone.

This mass vaccination will moreover alllow ever more lethal strains to emerge and also provide a cover for a release of bird flu virus or other pathogens.

This is why steps need to be taken now to stop the mass vaccinations anticipated in autumn by taking legal action to block the distribution of vaccines and/or laws allowing govenrments to force people to take vaccinations.

An investigation into this international corporate crime syndicate has to be conducted in every country because it has its tentacles in every country, and to try to initiate this in the USA, I filed charges with the FBI against WHO and the UN among other defendants in June. I included President Obama among the defendants because I believe the time has come to identify and isolate the core members of this international corporate criminal group which has annexed high government office in the USA, and put them in prison once and for all, and there are reports that Obama has direct financial links with Baxter that need to be investigated by law enforcement.

There is evidence the Austrian Health Minister and other officials have been helping Baxter to cover its tracks.

Also, there is clear evidence that elements of the Austrian media are involved in actively spreading lies and misinformation to lull people into a false sense of security concerning Baxter?s manufacture and distribution of pandemic material in Austria this February.

Vital is for individuals and local authorities need to take effective measures to protect against the coming lethal wave of the H1N1 virus to minimise its impact.

To find to out about the charges I have filed so far in German and English in Austria also with the FBI, please check the wakenews website.
http://wakenews.net/html/jane_burgermeister.html

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

My youngest daughter got all her required shots.

You didn't shoot them?

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

You didn't shoot them?

Bit diff from required in order to goto school, vs forced by law with no choice. I had the choice of doing home schooling. Most all of the vaccines required for school have been in use over 20 years or more and shown mostly to be safe.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by bushwacker

SF, it's interesting that you bring this up. My grandparents have owned numerous dogs, all of them have lived into their early twenties, and none of them have been anywhere near a vet.

Yup the whole dog vaccine thing is a nice racket. They get paid to inject them, then get paid to put down and dispose of them. Sad really. Ok off to shoot a wedding enjoy the vaccine cocktails while I am gone.. lol

[Slappin Fish]

Yeah vaccination is bad

Who wouldn't want to see a few hundred thousand polio kids walking around

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/multi...olio211460.jpg

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Bit diff from required in order to goto school, vs forced by law with no choice. I had the choice of doing home schooling. Most all of the vaccines required for school have been in use over 20 years or more and shown mostly to be safe.

My state doesnt require it to go to school. And I think in Colorado 50% of the children in school are not fully vaccinated.

[riddler]

anti vaccine people dont only endanger their children but the rest of society by fucking up the herd immunization

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by riddler

anti vaccine people dont only endanger their children but the rest of society by fucking up the herd immunization

without a doubt.

[IllTestYourGirls]

But I do find this interesting

http://dprogram.net/2009/01/11/out-o...en-vaccinated/

[IllTestYourGirls]

But I do find this interesting

http://dprogram.net/2009/01/11/out-o...en-vaccinated/

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Bit diff from required in order to goto school, vs forced by law with no choice.

You think they will let your unvaccinated kid go to school IF REQUIRED swine flu vaccines come out? LOL Required shots to "go to school" is okay with you, yet required to vaccinate her against swine flu you will "shoot them all!"

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

You think they will let your unvaccinated kid go to school IF REQUIRED swine flu vaccines come out? LOL Required shots to "go to school" is okay with you, yet required to vaccinate her against swine flu you will "shoot them all!"

yes one has a choice, and one does not. Required by law across the boards for everyone forced vaccinations, or required to goto school. HUGE difference. I can take them out of school, and do a private school, or home schooling. If you can't understand the difference there is not much I can do to explain it to you. Ok really done now. Was just waiting on clothes to dry before I could leave. lol

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Lets goto extremes then. Ever heard of Bubble boy? Maybe we should rid the planet of any germs that way bubble boy can come out of his bubble. lmao. Just foolishness. If the have an immune system that weak they need to be in quarantine. Its not my job to patrol who might get sick by coming in contact with me. And are you saying that vaccines will keep germs that I came in contact with from someone else that are on my skin or clothes from infecting the person with the weak immune system? Pfft and you call me stupid. lol Vaccines stop the person from getting the illness not from spreading it. You don't have to have an illness to spread it, and a vaccine WILL NOT stop you from spreading it to someone that has a weak immune system. So how exactly does it protect those with weak immune systems.

And again I have to give up my rights so that someone incapable of fending off diseases can be safe. Utterly ridiculous.

Thanks for showing just how little you know about the subject.

Yes, I know about Bubble Boy. In fact, I even mentioned his disease in this thread: Severe Combined Immunodeficiency - aka SCID. What you apparently don't know is that these days, Bubble Boy would be able to walk outside and live a somewhat normal life. Bone marrow transplants and gene therapy can do some interesting stuff, you know.

Your understanding of infectious diseases, meanwhile, is fundamentally flawed if you think vaccination does not prevent you from spreading them. Because, you know... many of them have a rather hard time living and multiplying outside of the human body. You should've learned about that in high school biology, really.

The scary thing is that you, with your deeply flawed knowledge of the human body, disease and medicine, will continue to endanger not only your own life, but the lives of your (future) children and random strangers as well.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

I can take them out of school, and do a private school

You think private schools will allow unvaccinated kids and public schools will not? LOL

[BFT3K]

Vaccines and autism...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=vPDDzwhu--s

[BFT3K]

And another...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=SnrYEQjoIfo

[Libertine]

The one good thing about the people who listen to Jenny McCarthy on vaccinations is that when they need heart surgery, they might call Ben Affleck and die.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Libertine

The one good thing about the people who listen to Jenny McCarthy on vaccinations is that when they need heart surgery, they might call Ben Affleck and die.

...he says, without watching her story first.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Vaccines and autism...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SnrYEQjoIfo

No vaccines and polio....

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/multi...olio211460.jpg

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Vaccines and autism...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vPDDzwhu--s

No Vaccines and malaria...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/3/480...50e32e.jpg?v=0

[Libertine]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

...he says, without watching her story first.

Actually, I did watch her story. I especially loved the part about her insinuating that her "pact with God" played a role in his progress.

The woman is a complete and utter moron. And if you consider her a more reliable source than dozens of scientific studies on the subject, so are you.

[brassmonkey]

yes plenty here check the thread in a few hours you'll have a full bowl of nuts

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

No vaccines and polio....

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/multi...olio211460.jpg

Who is suggesting NO vaccines?

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

No Vaccines and malaria...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/3/480...50e32e.jpg?v=0

I never said ALL vaccines were bad, but that doesn't mean we should allow the govt to treat us like guinea pigs either. Half the time the flu shots they give out are not even in sync with the virus of the year, so the idea of multiple mandatory H1N1 shots, or 30+ shots for every child before they are 5 years old, probably requires some more investigation - that's all.

[Porn Grounds]

I'm pretty sure the doctor that started the whole "Vaccines and autism" scare came out and said he pretty much made up the whole thing not to long ago. Maybe a few months ago or at the beginning of the school year last year?

It was all over the news. Saying he faked the reports.

[cam_girls]

the government does for the people what they can't do for themselves, the few bad eggs claiming their rights to spread disease could ruin it for all.

everyone has to get vaccinated or these diseases will continue for thousands of years

and the government does forcefully give injections to people all the time, so stop dreaming

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Who is suggesting NO vaccines?

Your Vaccines and Autism post suggested there is a direct correlation between the shots and the condition, I was merely pointing out that if that is speculation the consequences of not having the shots aren't

Which shots would you exclude:

Diphtheria?
Hepatitis?
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)?
Lyme Disease?
Measles?
Meningococcal disease
Whooping Cough?
Polio?
Rabies?
Rubella?
Smallpox?
Tetanus?
Typhoid Fever?
Chickenpox?
Yellow Fever?

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Your Vaccines and Autism post suggested there is a direct correlation between the shots and the condition, I was merely pointing out that if that is speculation the consequences of not having the shots aren't

Which shots would you exclude:

Diphtheria?
Hepatitis?
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)?
Lyme Disease?
Measles?
Meningococcal disease
Whooping Cough?
Polio?
Rabies?
Rubella?
Smallpox?
Tetanus?
Typhoid Fever?
Chickenpox?
Yellow Fever?

Most of the diseases that you have listed are not mandatory vaccines at all, and most people no longer get them. Some of them don't even have vaccines. If smallpox broke out right now for example, we would all be fucked, as that mandatory vaccine ended many years ago.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Most of the diseases that you have listed are not mandatory vaccines at all, and most people no longer get them. Some of them don't even have vaccines. If smallpox broke out right now for example, we would all be fucked, as that mandatory vaccine ended many years ago.

US is fully stocked up on Smallpox vaccines since 2001, one vaccine for every person in the United States.

Didn't say people still get them, just asked which one is bad for you?

Anyway we are going in circles now, you seem to be going against what you were initially saying.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Lets goto extremes then. Ever heard of Bubble boy? Maybe we should rid the planet of any germs that way bubble boy can come out of his bubble. lmao. Just foolishness. If the have an immune system that weak they need to be in quarantine. Its not my job to patrol who might get sick by coming in contact with me. And are you saying that vaccines will keep germs that I came in contact with from someone else that are on my skin or clothes from infecting the person with the weak immune system? Pfft and you call me stupid. lol Vaccines stop the person from getting the illness not from spreading it. You don't have to have an illness to spread it, and a vaccine WILL NOT stop you from spreading it to someone that has a weak immune system. So how exactly does it protect those with weak immune systems.

And again I have to give up my rights so that someone incapable of fending off diseases can be safe. Utterly ridiculous.

sticky, anyone on this board can see you have many irrational fears. Are there some dangers associated with vaccines, yeah but typically the benefits outweight the risks. It must suck to live in such a paranoid state of mind all the time.

[epitome]

It's funny how keyboard warriors get up in arms about things in their virtual lives but never do anything in real life.

I guess it's easier to spew hate than actually do anything.

[xxxdesign-net]

No proof GMOs are bad either right.. dozens of studies says it's good... Enjoy then

Oh, and anyone who is for forced medication or vaccination is a naive idiot

[BFT3K]

Super Sheep Sermon



https://youtube.com/watch?v=dK8sOrYVohE

[brassmonkey]

bowls almost full

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Libertine

Just curious to see how far the idiocy has spread

Well the OP can think and do what he likes, but I for one will not allow something to be injected into my body by force. There are some vaccinations that are useful and some that are not.

Many of the medications people are on today are totally unnecessary. Why? Profit margin. Many doctors simply treat the SYMPTOMS of an illness rather than treat the cause of the illness. Example... You go in for a flu or cold or belly ache. They give you something to reduce fever or settle your stomach or stop your runny nose. What they didn't do is treat whatever caused them.

As for antibiotics? They have there place and need but it is FACT that you rely on foreign antibodies your own immune system doesn't have to try as hard and over time becomes weaker and less effective in fighting off illness. I NEVER go to the doctor, even if I am sick or with the sniffles. Why? Because my body fights it off just fine and I am rarely sick. The last time I went to the doctor for illness was maybe 8 years ago, maybe longer.

And maybe do some educating of yourself before saying people wary of vaccinations are nutters. Let us use your case of the polio vaccine shall we...

When polio vaccines were first given in mass to the public in the mid to late 50's it had this little substance in it called SV40. What is that? Simian virus 40. Why was it in there? Because they used kidney cells from monkeys to amplify the vaccine virus during production.

So what was the fall out from this colossal blunder? Health officials discovered that the SV40 caused malignant tumors in lab animals and they ordered the virus eliminated from all future vaccines. But by then as many as 30 million Americans had been given injections of the SV40-tainted polio vaccine, which was first licensed in 1955.

Makes you wonder how many people contracted cancer from this fuck up?

So yeah, your damn right I don't want untested bullshit injected into my body.

[StickyGreen]

What a surprise, another idiot labeling people who question things as "nutters."

I bet the OP blindly trusts anyone with authority.

[theking]

Almost all vaccines...if not all...kills/harms...a percentage of those vaccinated...but saves many more lives than they take. Many vaccines are already mandated.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by cam_girls

the government does for the people what they can't do for themselves, the few bad eggs claiming their rights to spread disease could ruin it for all.

everyone has to get vaccinated or these diseases will continue for thousands of years

and the government does forcefully give injections to people all the time, so stop dreaming

Lucky Hitler never thought about labeling all the jews, causing a fake health scare, then ordering all people to go to places where the military will inject them with a vaccine. Hitler could have killed every single jew in germany one week using just that strategy.

[brassmonkey]

ok its full hahahaha!!

[cam_girls]

vaccines are a wonder cure, one of the best breakthroughs in medicine. if there was a treatment that cured polio after you got it, and you got polio you'd all be racing to the doctors asking for the cure, but getting the cure BEFORE you get the disease and you don't do it. I'd rather not get the disease at all.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by cam_girls

vaccines are a wonder cure, one of the best breakthroughs in medicine. if there was a treatment that cured polio after you got it, and you got polio you'd all be racing to the doctors asking for the cure, but getting the cure BEFORE you get the disease and you don't do it. I'd rather not get the disease at all.

I agree, in most cases an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Of course the development and distribution of the polio vaccine was funded by The March Of Dimes, not a large pharmaceutical company, so there is always some room for skepticism.

[stickyfingerz]

Im FAR from a conspiracy nut, but damn you blind sheep ready to take a needle just cause someone says you need it are utter idiots. They start forced injections and you will see some shit go down.

Sorry no way I would be forced to get an injection. Amazing.

[theking]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Im FAR from a conspiracy nut, but damn you blind sheep ready to take a needle just cause someone says you need it are utter idiots. They start forced injections and you will see some shit go down.

Sorry no way I would be forced to get an injection. Amazing.

You already have been forced...or you did not attend school...which is it?

Originally Posted by Libertine

You've made me see the light, dude.

I'll go tell my professors in med school that they should stop relying on actual scientific studies, and should listen to the almighty baddog instead, who proclaims that studies and statistics are irrelevant and that anecdotal evidence is what truly matters.

Great idea. Let's go back to the dark ages, when everything was just so much better.

Do your professors in med school tell you to give a patient a pill for every ache or issue? Just wondering since that is what every doctor does these days. Studies are not always accurate and we live in a world where SSRI's are taken like candy.

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by theking

You already have been forced...or you did not attend school...which is it?

Two different things, and you can actually get a waiver claiming religious rights to not get a vaccine for your children. This is a different thing they are talking about doing.