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KingRedOnion · 08-08-2009, 11:20 AM

i like the concept of it being a marketting ploy, and yet no one knows who they are or what they are selling.

well that worked.

Qbert · 08-08-2009, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

FBI is entering the biz...

Check the shoes. If they match the suit, then it's not FBI.

Raf1 · 08-08-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by seanchai

Very poor marketing to come to a show and have to hire some monkeys in suits to look important when the real money makers are in shorts and shirts.

very true

Rangermoore · 08-08-2009, 01:39 PM

It's called PSD...Personal Security Detail..and I would bet it is just for show not real.

MasterBlow · 08-08-2009, 01:48 PM

GrouchyAdmin · 08-08-2009, 01:50 PM

They scared kitty.

Juicy D. Links · 08-08-2009, 01:51 PM

lol @ bodyguards

jay23 · 08-08-2009, 04:18 PM

I keep seeing these guys again and again past few days and I think its the stupidest move who ever paying for it did. The guys with the sun glasses and black suite looked like idiots in the Miami weather. This should be a MBA case study on marketing gone wrong.

JustDaveXxx · 08-08-2009, 04:30 PM

Its pretty real if you are Brazzers. Or a company that owes a lot of people money.

Adam X · 08-08-2009, 07:36 PM

Ask them if they are into womens va-geenaz...

Paul Markham · 08-09-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Yup, it's saying "HEY, LOOK AT ME, I THINK I AM SO IMPORTANT THAT I PAID MEN TO FOLLOW ME AROUND!"

Kind of like rolling up to the club in a limo and acting like you own the limo. Classy people get around in town cars or if they want to be flashy, a car for the driven, not the driver.

I think it would deter people talking to them and make people wonder why they need protection.

epitome · 08-09-2009, 03:18 AM

So something just dawned on me...anybody know if the "protectee" is even an industry guy?

Maybe it's just somebody that's very rich and powerful (in which it would then be needed) that wanted to go to a porn convention?

It'd be hilarious if it were someone like the CEO of Exxon.

Agent 488 · 08-09-2009, 08:00 AM

since a tube site owner got served with papers there (check the gay boards) maybe more people will have bodyguards in the future ...

marketsmart · 08-09-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by budsbabes

since a tube site owner got served with papers there (check the gay boards) maybe more people will have bodyguards in the future ...

please expand on this story... i dont have time to surf over to the homo boards..

Sly · 08-09-2009, 10:56 AM

So there are multiple threads about this on multiple boards and nobody has thought of asking who these guys are yet?

And considering nobody knows who they are or what company they may be from... what exactly are they marketing? What marketing ploy could this possibly be?

notime · 08-09-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

So there are multiple threads about this on multiple boards and nobody has thought of asking who these guys are yet?

And considering nobody knows who they are or what company they may be from... what exactly are they marketing? What marketing ploy could this possibly be?

JimmiDean · 08-09-2009, 02:56 PM

I saw these two guys sitting on two seperate couches in the lobby about ten feet apart trying to look important with the three guards infront of them.
looked about a stupid and could be.
my guess is......

1 Marketing ploy that may rate as the worst ever in the history of marketing.

2 Some non industry poeple showed up to meet chicks and failed.

3 it was the apple twins incognito.

D Ghost · 08-09-2009, 03:26 PM

I know who they are...

Yes they are industry people, no they aren't tube site owners...

madawgz · 08-09-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

I know who they are...

Yes they are industry people, no they aren't tube site owners...

damn i just read the whole thread to find out your not saying who it is

Joe King · 08-09-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

please expand on this story... i dont have time to surf over to the homo boards..

LOLZ!!!

Iron Fist · 08-09-2009, 03:55 PM

Would make me wonder what they are protecting... the fact that they are the gheyness?

Platinumpimp · 08-09-2009, 04:00 PM

Mib mib mib!!!

MediaGuy · 08-09-2009, 07:03 PM

I saw them in front of a cabana first time and just thought it was silly marketing stuff... having worn a suit in similar weather at past shows, I went up to them and said something to the effect that I sympathized cause I knew what they must be feeling right now.

No smiles.

Mine dropped.

The older security-guy: "GOT A PROBLEM?"

Uh... what?

But then someone with more brains than me kinda shuttled me aside and explained that they were real, and serious, and don't talk to them...

I don't know who/what they were securing but their presence was funny/surreal to say the least...

Heard later they were there for a program owner.... but I don't believe that.

At one point one of them posted himself outside the can behind the Splash Bar while another went in for a minute the emerged again... but they weren't surrounding anybody, and no one went into the can after that...

I just figured they were clearing the place for 2 Live Crew...

Dinkstuff, truly.

:D

D Ghost · 08-09-2009, 07:36 PM

they weren't there for 2 Live Crew... the guys they were working for are industry guys

Jon B · 08-09-2009, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

I know who they are...

Yes they are industry people, no they aren't tube site owners...

So who the hell are they whats the big secret? Not that it really matters.

DatingGold · 08-09-2009, 08:38 PM

I know who it was for. A nice guy in my book.

Where they live it makes sense. At the Westin Diplomat not so much. I'd be more concerned if I need security i'd change my acquitances lol. However I think it was mostly for show which is fine. By day two the security guys were just waiting in the lobby. They must have been sweating balls in the heat that's for sure.

Bringing security to a club can be a good idea especially if you got cash, jewels or chicks.

tony286 · 08-09-2009, 08:45 PM

hasnt anyone ever been killed or forcibly robbed at a show in the history of adult shows?

tony286 · 08-09-2009, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

hasnt anyone ever been killed or forcibly robbed at a show in the history of adult shows?

I mean has not hasnt

2MuchMark · 08-09-2009, 09:02 PM

Still no news as to who they are or who they were there to protect?

Meeper · 08-09-2009, 09:09 PM

Ya we saw them around as well and our first thought was IBill as well haha. Good meeting ya Forest!

Joe King · 08-09-2009, 11:07 PM

$5 Paypal to anyone who can name who it was

epitome · 08-09-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

please expand on this story... i dont have time to surf over to the homo boards..

The executive summary:

The guy served is the owner of MonsterCockTube.com/Antelope Media/Alphamale Cash.

He was outside of the U.S. (it says he's German...couldn't ascertain if that is where he lives and/or operates out of) and avoided being served on a copyright infringement suit. Titan says he was avoiding them.

He came to Internext and they took the opportunity to serve him on U.S. soil.

That is the gist of the story posted on the gay board by Titan.

More and more gay studios are taking on an in-house general counsel. I am not sure if Titan is one of them, but they've been extremely proactive on copyright infringement and other studios are redoubling their efforts.

epitome · 08-09-2009, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold

I know who it was for. A nice guy in my book.

Where they live it makes sense. At the Westin Diplomat not so much. I'd be more concerned if I need security i'd change my acquitances lol. However I think it was mostly for show which is fine. By day two the security guys were just waiting in the lobby. They must have been sweating balls in the heat that's for sure.

Bringing security to a club can be a good idea especially if you got cash, jewels or chicks.

I could totally see having protection if they are International. Especially if they are a big earner and live in a country notorious for kidnappings for ransom.

At a resort in South Florida, not so much, but maybe he didn't know. Or, maybe he has a great security team that insists on protecting him at all times; or at least until they can ascertain the threat level.

Joe King · 08-10-2009, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

The executive summary:

The guy served is the owner of MonsterCockTube.com/Antelope Media/Alphamale Cash.

He was outside of the U.S. (it says he's German...couldn't ascertain if that is where he lives and/or operates out of) and avoided being served on a copyright infringement suit. Titan says he was avoiding them.

He came to Internext and they took the opportunity to serve him on U.S. soil.

That is the gist of the story posted on the gay board by Titan.

More and more gay studios are taking on an in-house general counsel. I am not sure if Titan is one of them, but they've been extremely proactive on copyright infringement and other studios are redoubling their efforts.

I see the thread but it does not say this was the same guy with the bodygaurds. Unless I am looking at the wrong board.

CIVMatt · 08-10-2009, 07:13 AM

We were wondering how those guys were, most the time they were just walking around by themselves, all I could think was "Enjoy the florida humidity asshat"

lazycash · 08-10-2009, 07:24 AM

LC is big pimpin now.

Dirty D · 08-10-2009, 08:20 AM

This has nothing to do with any gay program.

So far there are only three people in this thread that are even close

Qbert · 08-10-2009, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirty D

So far there are only three people in this thread that are even close

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE

Those involved with fraud and unwarented chargebacks should have their bodygaurds!

Located in Costa Rica perhaps?

MichaelP · 08-10-2009, 09:49 AM

I saw them too. At first I was thinking about Ibill's guys as well

IF it was a marketing thing, then THIS IS THE DUMBEST Plan I ever seen. You want to go to a show and be approachable and meet people, not keep them away... Anyway, we all know Multi-millionaires from this biz and they were in Shorts an Flip-Flops all week-end long serving beers to their clients/friends.

On the other hand IF it was true, and they are form the biz, WHO IN HELL think that he needs protection at a convention where you have almost one security guard for every 10 some people?

So either they're n00bs and don't really know what our community is about OR they made something really bad in the past, so they should have stayed home either way

08-10-2009, 09:53 AM

I remember seeing them a lot too, with their aviator sunglasses and dark suits. I thought they were just trying to look cool so I didn't care enough to ask them....I could use a bodyguard though...or I'd like one...lol

Varius · 08-10-2009, 10:00 AM

Some of the guesses in this thread were hilarious

Jon Oso · 08-10-2009, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gocubbiesjess

I remember seeing them a lot too, with their aviator sunglasses and dark suits. I thought they were just trying to look cool so I didn't care enough to ask them....I could use a bodyguard though...or I'd like one...lol

I work pretty cheap, pretty much just feed me and give me a place to stay and I'm good.

I'm kidding but I probably would just for a change of scenery.

As far as those guys go though I can understand the logic if they are from outside the US and have never been or only rarely been. Talking to people out of the country that have never been here I hear all the weirdest shit. They think people get shot everywhere all the time just for walking down the street, people are always getting robbed in every city big and small and that America is such a super dangerous place.

I've been to hands down the shittiest parts of Phoenix and I've only been shot at a handful of times for no reason.

C-Luv · 08-10-2009, 10:03 AM

LMAO! Wasn't me

Joe King · 08-10-2009, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Oso

I work pretty cheap, pretty much just feed me and give me a place to stay and I'm good.

I'm kidding but I probably would just for a change of scenery.

As far as those guys go though I can understand the logic if they are from outside the US and have never been or only rarely been. Talking to people out of the country that have never been here I hear all the weirdest shit. They think people get shot everywhere all the time just for walking down the street, people are always getting robbed in every city big and small and that America is such a super dangerous place.

I've been to hands down the shittiest parts of Phoenix and I've only been shot at a handful of times for no reason.

No shit lots of my European friends think crime is a bigger problem in the USA than it is. They don't realize you usually have to go to the hood to see crime.

TheAmericanCannibal · 08-10-2009, 10:06 AM

Rumor has it, it was Ben from Holland's Bodyguards, Metro's muscle-
They were afraid JFK may be put a cap in Ben's ass...a LENSCAP

lol

Jon Oso · 08-10-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe King

No shit lots of my European friends think crime is a bigger problem in the USA than it is. They don't realize you usually have to go to the hood to see crime.

Yup. Some guy from some small ass country I can't even remember went off on how dangerous America is... I think they see rap and metal videos from over here and think that's how life is haha.

Mirage · 08-10-2009, 11:41 AM

I think one of them was actually the boss, biut nobody told them he has to actulally look different than the others to make sense.
Eastern europe small country...seen them there all over acting out.

Anthony · 08-10-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

I could totally see having protection if they are International. Especially if they are a big earner and live in a country notorious for kidnappings for ransom.

At a resort in South Florida, not so much, but maybe he didn't know. Or, maybe he has a great security team that insists on protecting him at all times; or at least until they can ascertain the threat level.

The Principal live in outside of the USA. I never met the security guards, but saw the Principal on thursday getting badges. I hardly recognized him, he looks amazing. Anyways, considering his former partner has threatened my life overseas, I can see why the security.

How did everyone see these guys, and I had a meeting and we always kept missing each other? Damn it.

Anthony · 08-10-2009, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varius

Some of the guesses in this thread were hilarious

Whatever fucker, how did I miss your ass at this show? Looks like I'll be down your part of the world soon.

Rinaldo · 08-10-2009, 11:59 AM

I actually stood next to one of the guys while I was in the gift shop. He was buying gum. He was friendly enough to me, the suits stood just outside of the gift shop.
You see a lot of guys at the shows with years of beef and they shake hands. I've seen one fight at a show and he deserved it.
I think the security was unnecessary.

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08-08-2009, 01:39 PM	#54
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jay23 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,444	I keep seeing these guys again and again past few days and I think its the stupidest move who ever paying for it did. The guys with the sun glasses and black suite looked like idiots in the Miami weather. This should be a MBA case study on marketing gone wrong.

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08-09-2009, 03:18 AM	#62
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	So something just dawned on me...anybody know if the "protectee" is even an industry guy? Maybe it's just somebody that's very rich and powerful (in which it would then be needed) that wanted to go to a porn convention? It'd be hilarious if it were someone like the CEO of Exxon.

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08-09-2009, 10:56 AM	#65
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08-09-2009, 03:26 PM	#68
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MediaGuy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Montrealquebecanada Posts: 5,500	I saw them in front of a cabana first time and just thought it was silly marketing stuff... having worn a suit in similar weather at past shows, I went up to them and said something to the effect that I sympathized cause I knew what they must be feeling right now. No smiles. Mine dropped. The older security-guy: "GOT A PROBLEM?" Uh... what? But then someone with more brains than me kinda shuttled me aside and explained that they were real, and serious, and don't talk to them... I don't know who/what they were securing but their presence was funny/surreal to say the least... Heard later they were there for a program owner.... but I don't believe that. At one point one of them posted himself outside the can behind the Splash Bar while another went in for a minute the emerged again... but they weren't surrounding anybody, and no one went into the can after that... I just figured they were clearing the place for 2 Live Crew... Dinkstuff, truly. :D __________________ YOU Are Industry News! Press Releases: pr[at]payoutmag.com Facebook: Payout Magazine! Facebook: MIKEB! ICQ: 248843947 Skype: Mediaguy1

08-09-2009, 07:36 PM	#74
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08-09-2009, 08:38 PM	#76
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08-09-2009, 08:45 PM	#77
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MichaelP Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: QWEBEC Corporate Office Posts: 7,124	I saw them too. At first I was thinking about Ibill's guys as well IF it was a marketing thing, then THIS IS THE DUMBEST Plan I ever seen. You want to go to a show and be approachable and meet people, not keep them away... Anyway, we all know Multi-millionaires from this biz and they were in Shorts an Flip-Flops all week-end long serving beers to their clients/friends. On the other hand IF it was true, and they are form the biz, WHO IN HELL think that he needs protection at a convention where you have almost one security guard for every 10 some people? So either they're n00bs and don't really know what our community is about OR they made something really bad in the past, so they should have stayed home either way Last edited by MichaelP; 08-10-2009 at 09:52 AM..

08-10-2009, 09:53 AM	#90
gocubbiesjess Guest Posts: n/a	I remember seeing them a lot too, with their aviator sunglasses and dark suits. I thought they were just trying to look cool so I didn't care enough to ask them....I could use a bodyguard though...or I'd like one...lol

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08-10-2009, 11:59 AM	#100
Rinaldo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 5,086	I actually stood next to one of the guys while I was in the gift shop. He was buying gum. He was friendly enough to me, the suits stood just outside of the gift shop. You see a lot of guys at the shows with years of beef and they shake hands. I've seen one fight at a show and he deserved it. I think the security was unnecessary.