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OneHungLo · 09-11-2010, 02:14 AM

100 tubes turned darksided

miss_bellabellini · 09-11-2010, 02:21 AM

They might go to the dark side, but I still reported them

Do they really expect people not to notice these things? I check my stats and I talk to fans. Just spend a few more minutes on marketing & they would probably be more successful in the long run.

trannysphere · 09-11-2010, 03:19 AM

it doesnt look like you!

adult-help · 09-11-2010, 03:49 AM

haha, I saw this thread and didnt realize it was from 2009: everyone congratulating him while the general consent here is that tube sites killed the adult biz and the people who own them "should be hanged" for ruining it all..how the times change...

Paul Markham · 09-11-2010, 05:36 AM

This industry needs more Tubes sites giving out more free content!!

I see lots of full length scenes on your site, well done.

No wonder this business is going to the shitter.

Paul Markham · 09-11-2010, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adult-help

haha, I saw this thread and didnt realize it was from 2009: everyone congratulating him while the general consent here is that tube sites killed the adult biz and the people who own them "should be hanged" for ruining it all..how the times change...

I missed it as well until I saw your post, after I had posted my previous one. Was I the only person who saw the problem?

This thread illustrates why this industry is going from great to good to fair to bad to worse and now to today. All the bros slapping him on the back for giving surfers 1,000s of reasons not to buy memberships.

Klen · 09-11-2010, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This industry needs more Tubes sites giving out more free content!!

I see lots of full length scenes on your site, well done.

No wonder this business is going to the shitter.

No problem,give me your entire content for 5$ and i will make one

fris · 09-11-2010, 05:55 AM

looks like they lost traffic, current alexa 555

Mutt · 09-11-2010, 06:45 AM

so when he originally posted this thread 4tube was 100% legal and now it isn't?

i see 20+ minute videos on there - doesn't mean they aren't legit though, most content guys will sell to tube sites out of desperation and brokers - well a broker just needs a sale - so they will turn a blind eye to customers who are going to break the usage terms of the license.

nice site, it it's legit, congrats.

V_RocKs · 09-11-2010, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

so when he originally posted this thread 4tube was 100% legal and now it isn't?

i see 20+ minute videos on there - doesn't mean they aren't legit though, most content guys will sell to tube sites out of desperation and brokers - well a broker just needs a sale - so they will turn a blind eye to customers who are going to break the usage terms of the license.

nice site, it it's legit, congrats.

He addressed that with the fact that a sponsor furnished the videos to him with full knowledge and he furnishes to them a ton of sales so everyone is happy.

As for Miss Bella Bellini... That totally sucks. Why fuck up her business model? You might be legal, but your ethics suck. Which makes it a case of the - what is the point?

Semi-Retired-Dave · 09-11-2010, 05:32 PM

That's great,
Congrats.

RogerV · 09-11-2010, 07:09 PM

congrats. just be careful when you become #1 the mob will turn on you ;)

famous · 09-11-2010, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miss_bellabellini

Legal tube right Steve?

Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?

Surfers will join my site and probably charge back since I shoot fetish, femdom, and softcore content. They will not get the hardcore content they are expecting coming from your site.

Or they will join your premium tube membership site expecting to see hardcore videos of me inside and find nothing of the sort.

I've had so many guys contact me on twitter & email asking me about these videos. It takes about 3 seconds to tell them what is going on because you chose a model that doesn't look like me at all. So your marketing plan wasn't very well thought out.

I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response. But I've contacted a few different people about it now because no one likes charge backs. Why deceive the consumer when there are enough hardcore models out there to market anyway?

I suggest changing your links and renaming the model because the model in these videos is obviously not me.

Are you serious? You think maybe the videos got sucked into the wrong category? Why not just contact him and tell him its labled wrong? Why bring up a thread from 2009. You know you can tell you never ran a website before, or if you had it was something not as complex. I run pornstar sites and you know what i label stuff wrong all the time. Either my fault or the sposnor who gave it to me has it wrong. But when you have a site with 10k differnt girls and 300k different galleries its sometimes easy to mess things up

But your proabably perfect so none of that above applies to you. Sucks to be human huh.

Carry on with your crying and maybe contact someone direct next time instead of sending out the GFY bat symbol :/

topsiteking · 09-11-2010, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous

Are you serious? You think maybe the videos got sucked into the wrong category? Why not just contact him and tell him its labled wrong? Why bring up a thread from 2009. You know you can tell you never ran a website before, or if you had it was something not as complex. I run pornstar sites and you know what i label stuff wrong all the time. Either my fault or the sposnor who gave it to me has it wrong. But when you have a site with 10k differnt girls and 300k different galleries its sometimes easy to mess things up

But your proabably perfect so none of that above applies to you. Sucks to be human huh.

Carry on with your crying and maybe contact someone direct next time instead of sending out the GFY bat symbol :/

And you should try readying next time.
She said:
"I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response."

Alprazolam · 09-11-2010, 07:49 PM

fyi your tube site isn't legal unless you can show the 2257 for this
http://www.4tube.com/videos/59512/ti...-blowjob-scene
read on her blog and other places that she did not sell this to you, so it's illegal.

Tempest · 09-11-2010, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miss_bellabellini

Legal tube right Steve?

Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?

Surfers will join my site and probably charge back since I shoot fetish, femdom, and softcore content. They will not get the hardcore content they are expecting coming from your site.

Or they will join your premium tube membership site expecting to see hardcore videos of me inside and find nothing of the sort.

I've had so many guys contact me on twitter & email asking me about these videos. It takes about 3 seconds to tell them what is going on because you chose a model that doesn't look like me at all. So your marketing plan wasn't very well thought out.

I tried to contact you about this months ago but received no response. But I've contacted a few different people about it now because no one likes charge backs. Why deceive the consumer when there are enough hardcore models out there to market anyway?

I suggest changing your links and renaming the model because the model in these videos is obviously not me.

The models are probably named "Bella", at least one of them is. When adding movies, it's usually not possible to see what the model looks like that you would pick off a huge list. Usually a person just goes by memory.

Instead of bitching about it, contact them and give them some clips that will show up on that page instead of the others so you get more promotion and traffic.

V_RocKs · 09-11-2010, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by famous

Are you serious? You think maybe the videos got sucked into the wrong category? Why not just contact him and tell him its labled wrong? Why bring up a thread from 2009. You know you can tell you never ran a website before, or if you had it was something not as complex. I run pornstar sites and you know what i label stuff wrong all the time. Either my fault or the sposnor who gave it to me has it wrong. But when you have a site with 10k differnt girls and 300k different galleries its sometimes easy to mess things up

But your proabably perfect so none of that above applies to you. Sucks to be human huh.

Carry on with your crying and maybe contact someone direct next time instead of sending out the GFY bat symbol :/

She did contact him and others that work with/for him and got no replies.

I guess you just can't read for shit.

V_RocKs · 09-11-2010, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam

fyi your tube site isn't legal unless you can show the 2257 for this
http://www.4tube.com/videos/59512/ti...-blowjob-scene
read on her blog and other places that she did not sell this to you, so it's illegal.

Just because she tells people she didn't agree to it doesn't mean she didn't receive a nifty 500,000 payment right when she needed one.

famous · 09-11-2010, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

She did contact him and others that work with/for him and got no replies.

I guess you just can't read for shit.

odd i never had any issue reaching Steve. You just gotta be in our shoes. Pornstar sites can be a royal pain. Girls switching programs week after week then getting hate mail beucase I can't keep up with the 5 differnt programs shes been with this year. It just gets old and tiresome. These girls think we can stop what we are doing to update thier links but unfortuenly in 2010 I dont know about you but I run bare bones and only have a few people now to help me out. Not like 2008 when I had someone do nothing but update links

famous · 09-11-2010, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest

The models are probably named "Bella"

and you sir are 100% correct. I am sure his back in is like mine. You dump in the link to the clips it matches girls to title. Sometimes shit goes wrong

When you have 200k links on a site its tuff to go threw them one at a time to see if they match the correct girl. 95% are typically correct but then every blew moon you get a curve ball. Thats why me personally I will not list a girl with a single name. Stops shit like that from happening.

Brad Mitchell · 09-11-2010, 10:40 PM

Congrats on your success Steve! Tremendous accomplishment.

Brad

Gals4free · 09-15-2010, 01:52 AM

Ok, just caught on to this thread getting bumped now, and thanks to Famous for already shedding some light on the situation.

I don't particularly love the way you handled this Bella. You said you tried contacting with us for ages, while the first email I find back is dated September 11th 2010.

----
Hi Steve,

I noticed you sent a sale today to my site. Thanks for that

But I just wanted to ask how gals4free.net is affiliated with 4tube.com? 4tube.com is using my name and link to my site on a bunch of hardcore video clips that clearly aren't me. I'm a Dominatrix & shoot fetish & softcore content so members who sign up expecting hardcore content won't retain.

Anyway I just wanted some clarification because I've had people mention the video son 4tube.com for awhile now. If you'd like some promo videos of me I can always provide some.

Let me know

Thanks,

Bella Bellini
----

This was then straight away passed onto the person that reviews these issues, and I told him to get in touch with you to get some promo videos like you mentioned in your email. He is on holiday today, so I'm unsure if he has already contacted you about that.

Anyway, obviously what happened was that when a site has over 100.000 clips, some can get categorized wrong. Some video where the girl was named Bella from pornpros.com ended up in your section on 4tube.. mistakes happen.. So this "Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?" is all a bit of an overstatement

If you haven't heard from jeremy already regarding the clips, you will soon when he returns from holiday.

Steve

Screwed Up · 09-15-2010, 02:20 AM

I tried submitting to you guys.

Never got listed.

09-11-2010, 02:21 AM	#102
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09-11-2010, 05:55 AM	#108
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09-11-2010, 02:14 AM	#101
OneHungLo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Your mom's front hole Posts: 40,910	100 tubes turned darksided

09-11-2010, 06:45 AM	#109
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	so when he originally posted this thread 4tube was 100% legal and now it isn't? i see 20+ minute videos on there - doesn't mean they aren't legit though, most content guys will sell to tube sites out of desperation and brokers - well a broker just needs a sale - so they will turn a blind eye to customers who are going to break the usage terms of the license. nice site, it it's legit, congrats. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

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09-11-2010, 07:09 PM	#112
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	congrats. just be careful when you become #1 the mob will turn on you ;)

09-11-2010, 07:49 PM	#115
Alprazolam So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 864	fyi your tube site isn't legal unless you can show the 2257 for this http://www.4tube.com/videos/59512/ti...-blowjob-scene read on her blog and other places that she did not sell this to you, so it's illegal.

09-11-2010, 10:40 PM	#121
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09-15-2010, 01:52 AM	#122
Gals4free Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 428	Ok, just caught on to this thread getting bumped now, and thanks to Famous for already shedding some light on the situation. I don't particularly love the way you handled this Bella. You said you tried contacting with us for ages, while the first email I find back is dated September 11th 2010. ---- Hi Steve, I noticed you sent a sale today to my site. Thanks for that But I just wanted to ask how gals4free.net is affiliated with 4tube.com? 4tube.com is using my name and link to my site on a bunch of hardcore video clips that clearly aren't me. I'm a Dominatrix & shoot fetish & softcore content so members who sign up expecting hardcore content won't retain. Anyway I just wanted some clarification because I've had people mention the video son 4tube.com for awhile now. If you'd like some promo videos of me I can always provide some. Let me know Thanks, Bella Bellini ---- This was then straight away passed onto the person that reviews these issues, and I told him to get in touch with you to get some promo videos like you mentioned in your email. He is on holiday today, so I'm unsure if he has already contacted you about that. Anyway, obviously what happened was that when a site has over 100.000 clips, some can get categorized wrong. Some video where the girl was named Bella from pornpros.com ended up in your section on 4tube.. mistakes happen.. So this "Can you explain to my why you are using my name, brand, domain name, and photos to sell hardcore videos while trying to pass off the model as me, when she doesn't look like me at all?" is all a bit of an overstatement If you haven't heard from jeremy already regarding the clips, you will soon when he returns from holiday. Steve __________________ At Kodify we have in excess of 5M visitors a day through our network that consists of www.PornTube.com www.4Tube.com www.PornerBros.com and www.Fux.com. We operate a very successful Content Publishing Platform at http://content.porntube.com where you can expose your content to our audience!

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