Is there any reason 5000 BOUGHT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? - GoFuckYourself.com

CunningStunt · 10-12-2009, 02:47 AM

This is apparently a *cough* reputable GFY regular "Traffic Source", who I've done a few campaigns with of late to test the waters.

One campaign started in the last 3 days, has reportedly given me 5000 hits per day. My logs show no hits whatsoever extra from the norm (very stable traffic to the site, around 35K per day).

No options were checked to allow no referrer traffic, no cookie or proxyservers - so in theory all this traffic is directly trackable and should appear in my log files no?

I'm fairly new at this traffic buying games, have used a dozen or so places so far, but this to me appears to be stealing.

a) Yes
b) No
c) Stfu traffic buying noob, we can think of a million reasons to take your money without a rational explanation.

alias · 10-12-2009, 04:03 AM

No, they should show.

HomerSimpson · 10-12-2009, 06:02 AM

you have been Bamboozled!!!!!

seeandsee · 10-12-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

you have been Bamboozled!!!!!

Kick Ass Chat · 10-12-2009, 06:54 AM

The hit's should show if they don't you have been fucked.

Fletch XXX · 10-12-2009, 06:57 AM

bot hits are leet like that and dont show up

10-12-2009, 07:00 AM

If a user comes to your site, unless referrer is off, should show...

Agent 488 · 10-12-2009, 07:02 AM

maybe you didn't uncheck "bot" as well.

18teens · 10-12-2009, 08:31 AM

No, the hits should show in your stats.

BradM · 10-12-2009, 08:51 AM

"Is there any reason 5000 BOT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? "

Fixed it for you

Iron Fist · 10-12-2009, 09:19 AM

Shenanigans... now if you want 5000 real hits and know where they are coming from, see sig

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-12-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

"Is there any reason 5000 BOT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? "

Fixed it for you

CunningStunt · 10-12-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by area51

Ah crap. I'll see what they come back with before posting who it is.

Any guesses?

CunningStunt · 10-12-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM

"Is there any reason 5000 BOT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? "

Fixed it for you

I think it might have been you or Brian warned me about these guys before. I wish I'd listened instead of trying them anyway.

Juicy D. Links · 10-12-2009, 12:33 PM

did someone say "log" I am turned on now

Cyber Fucker · 10-12-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM

"Is there any reason 5000 BOT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? "

Fixed it for you

CunningStunt · 10-12-2009, 01:32 PM

It seems my dutch friends ignore email support requests too for 3 days.

Another traffic source to assign to the worthless crud pile.

Are there actually any worth buying from? Probably, no.

CunningStunt · 10-12-2009, 01:40 PM

Look at this bollox.

Refund time.

"Btw… our system redirect the visitor to your site without referrer or sometimes is our system the referrer because the visitor loose his original referrer duing some javascript redirects and checksums before we send him to you"

CunningStunt · 10-12-2009, 07:37 PM

"So.. its already possible that you got around 4k clicks from us but because you was using 3 ads in this campaign you need to divide it by 3.. that’s around 1333 unique clicks"

What they are implying is their system does not track unique hits across ads within the same campaign (all going to the same destination URL), so you may therefore only get a third of the reported uniques that they are stating.

If that's the case, why would so many people be clicking on the different ads, that doesn't add up either. Unless they are bot clicks. Which would explain why they are not showing in my referrer logs.

They will get their own thread shortly once I cross reference their supposed referrers against my raw logs.

adultpro · 10-12-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Look at this bollox.

Refund time.

"Btw? our system redirect the visitor to your site without referrer or sometimes is our system the referrer because the visitor loose his original referrer duing some javascript redirects and checksums before we send him to you"

How convenient.....a traffic partner would send hits via a convoluted mechanism designed specifically so you can't see the hits, even though they supposedly sent the hits, and presumably would want you to see their honesty as to cause you to continue buying...right?

Why do people even try pulling these excuses when they are so easy to see through? They could have just as easily blamed a log failure on your end in a casual, not in depth response, and if challenged on that, proceed to blame some database or script glitch on their end.

pornpf69 · 10-12-2009, 07:54 PM

if your server was down... other than that the only reason for the hits not to be counted is because they were not sent...

MoreMagic · 10-12-2009, 09:15 PM

And that is why we use http://www.stuffedtracker.com/

CunningStunt · 10-12-2009, 09:53 PM

Interesting choice of Sig MoreMagic. Very pertinent.

My programmer is away for a few days, he is going to crosscheck our raw logs against those supposedly sent. Then we'll see who's got some explaining to do.

Simple for me to see, you pay X amount for Y uniques, and if your stats haven't gone up by Y yet you've been charged X, then you've been fucked.

I've been fucked.

MoreMagic · 10-12-2009, 10:09 PM

LOL I love EroAdvertising, but on same time I wouldn't buy any traffic without a good campaign tracker. Did you speak with Jan i'am sure he will help you out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Interesting choice of Sig MoreMagic. Very pertinent.

My programmer is away for a few days, he is going to crosscheck our raw logs against those supposedly sent. Then we'll see who's got some explaining to do.

Simple for me to see, you pay X amount for Y uniques, and if your stats haven't gone up by Y yet you've been charged X, then you've been fucked.

I've been fucked.

CunningStunt · 10-13-2009, 01:15 AM

He's the one coming out with the jibberish, and refusing to budge.

I am not going to say anything else until I am backed up by my server logs, then I will take it to paypal and get them on the case for a total refund of everything I've paid them.

I should have started off the campaign pointing hits to a known and well tracked domain, rather than send to sponsors first of all. Lesson learned.

It's funny, he's the first dutchman I've disliked in my entire life.

Janh · 10-13-2009, 01:43 AM

Hi Phil, haAs mentioned before, I have sent you a list of IP addresses from one day and if you'll need any more information or IP addresses to prove that from our side there was no mistake or try to cheat we can send you a full list since we're keeping all information stored from our campaigns.

CunningStunt · 10-13-2009, 01:54 AM

You've sent me an xml file with ip addresses in only. Hardly proof.

I have your campaign referrer URL's and will get my programmer to match them against our logs when he's back in the office tomorrow.

I am just astonished, you pay for what you think will be an extra 4000 to 5000 hits per day from someone, and your logs show no extra whatsoever. So where are those hits exactly? I trust you can see this from an end user perspective.

Something just doesn't add up to me, but let's take it offline for now.

MoreMagic · 10-13-2009, 03:04 AM

You can check very easy by IP. If you see them it is the proof you need. I am buying already for a view years traffic by ero advertising (and others) and they are actually 1 of the little view that actually brings me sales.

Next time (with who ever you buy) use a campaign tracker. It's THE way to track (and see the roi) of your traffic

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

You've sent me an xml file with ip addresses in only. Hardly proof.

I have your campaign referrer URL's and will get my programmer to match them against our logs when he's back in the office tomorrow.

I am just astonished, you pay for what you think will be an extra 4000 to 5000 hits per day from someone, and your logs show no extra whatsoever. So where are those hits exactly? I trust you can see this from an end user perspective.

Something just doesn't add up to me, but let's take it offline for now.

fatfoo · 10-13-2009, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

"Is there any reason 5000 BOT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? "

Fixed it for you

Well said, BradM. It's probably not real traffic, a bunch of bots.

Said day for CunningStunt.

Dcat · 10-13-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

And that is why we use http://www.stuffedtracker.com/

Stuffed Tracker is a great program! I couldn't live without it.

IllTestYourGirls · 10-13-2009, 10:12 AM

According to Black Label Ads...... yes

Had that shit happen to me. I started a campaign and saw ZERO hits, but they took my money anyway

Agent 488 · 10-13-2009, 10:16 AM

seemed like bs company anyway.

SwirlsGirl · 10-13-2009, 11:19 AM

Traffic hustling is one of the only 100% profit making niches left in adult.

If you can sleep at night knowing you got over on a hard working noob, then jump on the bandwagon, and sling some shitty traffic!

For you noobs, definitely scan your logs using a fine tooth comb, and post your stats, so other noobs can see how easy to it is to get hosed when buying traffic.

jigg · 10-14-2009, 04:50 PM

you need a tracker

i bought traffic from someone recently and caught double, sometimes triple clicks in a row and IPs from CDN networks and server hosting companies

CunningStunt · 10-16-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl

Traffic hustling is one of the only 100% profit making niches left in adult.

I tend to agree from what I've seen.

After receiving 24 bogus emails from etology today replenishing campaigns which have been closed for 3 months, I've seen it all.

Fuck the lot of them.

Just online after moving house the last 3 days, am checking with my programmer about the legitimacy of the stats from the dutch mob. Not holding my breath, they seem like scammers from every email I've received so far.

MoreMagic · 10-16-2009, 05:33 AM

Bullshit I want to see proof. They always have send me good converting traffic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

I tend to agree from what I've seen.

After receiving 24 bogus emails from etology today replenishing campaigns which have been closed for 3 months, I've seen it all.

Fuck the lot of them.

Just online after moving house the last 3 days, am checking with my programmer about the legitimacy of the stats from the dutch mob. Not holding my breath, they seem like scammers from every email I've received so far.

CunningStunt · 10-16-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Bullshit I want to see proof. They always have send me good converting traffic.

You're an idiot who promotes them for a few cents commission, who's going to believe anything you say whatsoever?

MoreMagic · 10-16-2009, 11:29 AM

Lol I promote them because I have great results with them.

On the other hand you are the idiot that buys traffic without a decent tracker.

Ohhh and not to forget you didn't post any proof. I call for a BAN.

ICEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

You're an idiot who promotes them for a few cents commission, who's going to believe anything you say whatsoever?

CunningStunt · 10-16-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreMagic

Lol I promote them because I have great results with them.

On the other hand you are the idiot that buys traffic without a decent tracker.

Ohhh and not to forget you didn't post any proof. I call for a BAN.

ICEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Childish. You remind me of the weak kids at school who used to run off to the teacher

My programmer has the raw logs, I'll have the answer one way or other next week.

CunningStunt · 10-16-2009, 12:22 PM

This is proof enough for me. The campaign was run on the 10th and 11th before I pulled it. Show me the extra 3000-4000 traffic increase:

I'm discussing this with Jan privately.

MoreMagic · 10-16-2009, 10:04 PM

are you fucking blind

Quote:

Originally Posted by CunningStunt

This is proof enough for me. The campaign was run on the 10th and 11th before I pulled it. Show me the extra 3000-4000 traffic increase:

I'm discussing this with Jan privately.

NetHorse · 10-16-2009, 11:06 PM

Buying traffic that does no other good than to sell it to someone else is a waste of money. WAh WAh

MoreMagic · 10-19-2009, 01:26 AM

So where is your proof big shot or are you going to give a excuse here?

MoreMagic · 10-19-2009, 10:15 AM

Bump for a answer.

10-12-2009, 02:47 AM	#1
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Is there any reason 5000 BOUGHT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? This is apparently a cough reputable GFY regular "Traffic Source", who I've done a few campaigns with of late to test the waters. One campaign started in the last 3 days, has reportedly given me 5000 hits per day. My logs show no hits whatsoever extra from the norm (very stable traffic to the site, around 35K per day). No options were checked to allow no referrer traffic, no cookie or proxyservers - so in theory all this traffic is directly trackable and should appear in my log files no? I'm fairly new at this traffic buying games, have used a dozen or so places so far, but this to me appears to be stealing. a) Yes b) No c) Stfu traffic buying noob, we can think of a million reasons to take your money without a rational explanation.

10-12-2009, 04:03 AM	#2
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	No, they should show. __________________ https://porncorporation.com

10-12-2009, 06:02 AM	#3
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10-12-2009, 06:54 AM	#5
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10-12-2009, 06:57 AM	#6
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10-12-2009, 07:00 AM	#7
Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE Guest Posts: n/a	If a user comes to your site, unless referrer is off, should show...

10-12-2009, 07:02 AM	#8
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	maybe you didn't uncheck "bot" as well.

10-12-2009, 08:31 AM	#9
18teens Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,605	No, the hits should show in your stats.

10-12-2009, 08:51 AM	#10
BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	"Is there any reason 5000 BOT HITS per day would not appear in your logs? " Fixed it for you

10-12-2009, 09:19 AM	#11
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Shenanigans... now if you want 5000 real hits and know where they are coming from, see sig __________________ i like waffles

10-12-2009, 12:33 PM	#15
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	did someone say "log" I am turned on now

10-12-2009, 01:32 PM	#17
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	It seems my dutch friends ignore email support requests too for 3 days. Another traffic source to assign to the worthless crud pile. Are there actually any worth buying from? Probably, no.

10-12-2009, 01:40 PM	#18
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Look at this bollox. Refund time. "Btw… our system redirect the visitor to your site without referrer or sometimes is our system the referrer because the visitor loose his original referrer duing some javascript redirects and checksums before we send him to you"

10-12-2009, 07:37 PM	#19
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	"So.. its already possible that you got around 4k clicks from us but because you was using 3 ads in this campaign you need to divide it by 3.. that’s around 1333 unique clicks" What they are implying is their system does not track unique hits across ads within the same campaign (all going to the same destination URL), so you may therefore only get a third of the reported uniques that they are stating. If that's the case, why would so many people be clicking on the different ads, that doesn't add up either. Unless they are bot clicks. Which would explain why they are not showing in my referrer logs. They will get their own thread shortly once I cross reference their supposed referrers against my raw logs.

10-12-2009, 07:54 PM	#21
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10-12-2009, 09:15 PM	#22
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	And that is why we use http://www.stuffedtracker.com/

10-12-2009, 09:53 PM	#23
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Interesting choice of Sig MoreMagic. Very pertinent. My programmer is away for a few days, he is going to crosscheck our raw logs against those supposedly sent. Then we'll see who's got some explaining to do. Simple for me to see, you pay X amount for Y uniques, and if your stats haven't gone up by Y yet you've been charged X, then you've been fucked. I've been fucked.

10-13-2009, 01:15 AM	#25
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	He's the one coming out with the jibberish, and refusing to budge. I am not going to say anything else until I am backed up by my server logs, then I will take it to paypal and get them on the case for a total refund of everything I've paid them. I should have started off the campaign pointing hits to a known and well tracked domain, rather than send to sponsors first of all. Lesson learned. It's funny, he's the first dutchman I've disliked in my entire life.

10-13-2009, 01:43 AM	#26
Janh Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NL Posts: 332	Hi Phil, haAs mentioned before, I have sent you a list of IP addresses from one day and if you'll need any more information or IP addresses to prove that from our side there was no mistake or try to cheat we can send you a full list since we're keeping all information stored from our campaigns. __________________ Contact me for buy/sell traffic or visit www.ero-advertising.com Advertise with Text ads, Thumb ads, Banners, Video ads, Layer ads or AdSpaces (fixed spots at fixed prices). All traffic is GEO-IP & country filtered (and anti-fraud checked).

10-13-2009, 01:54 AM	#27
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	You've sent me an xml file with ip addresses in only. Hardly proof. I have your campaign referrer URL's and will get my programmer to match them against our logs when he's back in the office tomorrow. I am just astonished, you pay for what you think will be an extra 4000 to 5000 hits per day from someone, and your logs show no extra whatsoever. So where are those hits exactly? I trust you can see this from an end user perspective. Something just doesn't add up to me, but let's take it offline for now. Last edited by CunningStunt; 10-13-2009 at 01:55 AM..

10-13-2009, 10:12 AM	#31
IllTestYourGirls Ah My Balls Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Under the gold leaf ICQ 388-454-421 Posts: 14,311	According to Black Label Ads...... yes Had that shit happen to me. I started a campaign and saw ZERO hits, but they took my money anyway __________________

10-13-2009, 10:16 AM	#32
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	seemed like bs company anyway.

10-13-2009, 11:19 AM	#33
SwirlsGirl So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: between east coast and vegas Posts: 2,067	Traffic hustling is one of the only 100% profit making niches left in adult. If you can sleep at night knowing you got over on a hard working noob, then jump on the bandwagon, and sling some shitty traffic! For you noobs, definitely scan your logs using a fine tooth comb, and post your stats, so other noobs can see how easy to it is to get hosed when buying traffic.

10-14-2009, 04:50 PM	#34
jigg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,527	you need a tracker i bought traffic from someone recently and caught double, sometimes triple clicks in a row and IPs from CDN networks and server hosting companies

10-16-2009, 12:22 PM	#40
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	This is proof enough for me. The campaign was run on the 10th and 11th before I pulled it. Show me the extra 3000-4000 traffic increase: I'm discussing this with Jan privately.

10-16-2009, 11:06 PM	#42
NetHorse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,526	Buying traffic that does no other good than to sell it to someone else is a waste of money. WAh WAh __________________ ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ ICQ # 427013273

10-19-2009, 01:26 AM	#43
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	So where is your proof big shot or are you going to give a excuse here?

10-19-2009, 10:15 AM	#44
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	Bump for a answer.