Can you even make a living as an affiliate anymore? - Page 4 - GoFuckYourself.com

Nicky · 09-25-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Give it around anothe 2 weeks and there will be tube sites for those niches and that will be gone too.

This is a problem, I've seen more and more micro-niche tubes pop up.

Icy · 09-25-2009, 02:50 AM

I agree with pr0.

I don't expect the adult biz to get back to what it was, but i agree with the part he said about working hard again and plan ahead to re-emerge in a year or two.

I think the problem a lot of us, who started in the gold days might be having is just that we have relaxed too much because the easy money we were making (well not that it was that easy, i worked up to 14 hours per day until i had my little network). Talking about myself that relaxation also came after a big tragedy when my little daughter died when being less than one month old. It affected me a lot and i barely worked for like a year, having my business on autopilot and luckily making good money, but not expanding as i should have been doing, besides a few sites i purchased and that have ended being good deals

I'm still making a good living as i have never been a big expender and also invested most of my profit on properties, but if i have kept the pace i had at first instead of relaxing, i would probably be rich right now like some other TGP guys who started when i did. Instead i'm starting to get worried not about the present or short term future, but about the long term.

So I have been thinking lately and after a long summer holidays i took, i have started to work as hard as i did in the past. Now that i'm used again to work a lot of hours (it's hard to get back on earth), i need to sit down and think, study the market, the competition, start to network again as i have over 400 contacts in icq i have not talked with for over a year, etc (btw guys, feel free to contact me again for biz if we haven't talked for a while). At least now i have cash to invest and a good source of traffic, so it's not like starting from zero like in the past.

I see other guys i know are posting here about also getting back to work hard as they did, so hopefully this will end on new ideas for the biz. Crockett, nice to read you are also back at full speed, i remember our talks like 3 or 4 years ago when the TGP biz still was alive.

The thing is that i'm motivated again, and that is a key in our business, specially if you work alone as i do. Without motivation, it's easy to get lazy and to waste hours not being productive.

Ok, enough time expended here with this self psychotherapy, now i'm back to work

seeandsee · 09-25-2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I know there has got to be some ex-fulltimers that are no part-timers, and vice versa. People don't spend money on porn anymore. Sure you can push dating and cams, but that still leave a massive void in most webmasters income.

I can speak personally, and say that my affiliate income is down dramatically. In 2003/2004 I was pulling 2k a day or so. Now I'm happy with 100$ a day.

So I ask...

iF YOU MAKE ONLY 100$ per day, what other people will make

Meloman · 09-25-2009, 01:58 PM

I've been around since 1998 and it's definitely not as easy as it used to be. But there's STILL plenty of money to be made. As has been pointed out you just need to think outside the box, innovate and not stay stagnant.

One great way to find out what's selling it to take advantage of all the promo payouts everyone is having. Every program out there has $100 days. Make a schedule and promote each of those and I'm sure you're going to come across a great seller for your traffic.

Take our promo for example: Hotbox.com. We're paying $150 per sale this entire MONTH!
At $150 per sale you can't go wrong

Anyone promoting us is welcome to hit me up for some pointers.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-25-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I made my first sale in January 2004, but didn't make enough to live on until early 2007, so I supplemented my income by programming and consulting for adult companies. I guess it just took me that long to figure it out.

Now I've got my shit together, this has been my best year ever, and this month should be a record month. I wasn't around for those easy money days, so all I know is that I work hard and the sales roll in.

My program does ok, but it only represents about 1/3 of my income, and I generate like 80% of the sales myself. I still consider myself an affiliate first and foremost, starting my own paysites was mostly to make more per sale on my own traffic

Maybe when income from my affiliates becomes larger than my own, my perspective will change...

Anyway life is good and I am optimistic. Sometimes I'm glad I wasn't around 10 years ago, I never got spoiled with the easy money

I bet those self rebills feel good

AmeliaG · 09-25-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman

I've been around since 1998 and it's definitely not as easy as it used to be. But there's STILL plenty of money to be made. As has been pointed out you just need to think outside the box, innovate and not stay stagnant.

One great way to find out what's selling it to take advantage of all the promo payouts everyone is having. Every program out there has $100 days. Make a schedule and promote each of those and I'm sure you're going to come across a great seller for your traffic.

Take our promo for example: Hotbox.com. We're paying $150 per sale this entire MONTH!
At $150 per sale you can't go wrong

Anyone promoting us is welcome to hit me up for some pointers.

I've been upselling other people's sites, in addition to my own, for around a decade now and I don't think I have ever made a sale on a high dollar promo day.

Meloman · 09-25-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

I've been upselling other people's sites, in addition to my own, for around a decade now and I don't think I have ever made a sale on a high dollar promo day.

Well I can only speak from my own experiences, and I've made plenty of coin on bonus days. In fact I can think of a few times I was all ready promoting the sponsor and was pleasantly surprised to see my payout higher on those random days, LOL.

And in the case of FriendFinder Networks, our promos usually last a whole month which gives you plenty of chances.

seeric · 09-28-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

LOL...that's me. We are as sub-niche as you can get lesbian foot fetish, black creampie, asian crempie, black lesbians, super fat, medium fat, orgies of every race...hell, we even have some midget shit coming out. It does alright. Give it around anothe 2 weeks and there will be tube sites for those niches and that will be gone too.

yah, i'd say so. you guys are about as niched out as it gets.

Oldy · 09-28-2009, 11:24 AM

been in the industry since 1998
made millions , saved millions.

emphasis on the saved.

Noticed this "hotness" of adult internet couldn't continue, so sold everything, went into investments, property, trading since 2005-2006.

Fast forward now 3 years:
adult industry is in shambles
I have 3-4 years of experience in investments, doing very well.... even during the crash.

tip #1: recognize when its not your skills , but just a hot market you are in, save the money, invest or train yourself in another long term market.
tip #2: Nothing lasts forever.
tip #3: predict the future,
tip #4: make the right choices now, the future will take care of itself.

tip #5 and most important.
make the wrong choices now, and you will be taking care of your sick future in due time.

Good luck. To everyone. Try your best, and don't squander $
cause $ = your freedom
squander it, and welcome to jailhouse #1 = being a brokeass.

-RME .
fked SE's for a fortune.

Oldy · 09-28-2009, 11:31 AM

tip #6: You can't squeeze blood from stone

Most of you are trying to squeeeze money from nothing, there ain't much money to be squeezed now. Go back to school. Find something new to do.
If you haven't made money now, well , unless you are super innovative,hard working, you ain't gonna make shit in the future.

The REALITY must be said.

d-null · 09-28-2009, 10:20 PM

nice to hear some wisdom, Oldy

VisionFantasy · 09-28-2009, 10:45 PM

I believe if you target the right traffic for a specific niche affiliates will do extremely well.

Before I decided to shoot porn, a friend told me about affiliate stuff. I gave it a shot and so far I made free money.
Oh wait I paid $9.95 to go daddy for my domain/affiliate page. lol
So I made that back thousand times over! ha ha ha

BetChips · 09-28-2009, 11:22 PM

Over the past month I have just been letting my adult run on auto pilot. Most of my time now has been focused on a range of things. Things have been picking up very nicely in mainstream and a special cpa network I hooked up with. But every month is different in adult, sales fluctuate and that's the nature of the business. Work harder in different areas.

SarahLLO · 09-29-2009, 01:42 AM

I'm doing better than I have in the past, but I'm not a full-time porn slinger by any means... I also have my hands in a few mainstream sites and an eBay store, I pretty much just am doing things that catch my interest. I enjoy the act of running websites, otherwise I probably wouldn't have even gotten started in adult.

I'm probably a normal small/part-time affiliate. According to StatsRemote:
-I average around $60/day
-My overall sales ratio is around 1:1000-1:1200 (it varies month to month but is always in that range)
-I don't have tons of traffic... around 100,000 raw hits a month according to SR.

My income has been steadily going up in adult over the past year, but I've been working less because I've been focused on other things. I chalk that up to pure luck, and now that I've got some of my mainstream stuff up and running and producing profits, I should probably get back to doing more than like... 5-6 galleries a month :X

DaddyHalbucks · 09-29-2009, 05:53 PM

There are some very good observations and advice in this thread. The bottom line is the cheese has moved over the last few years, dramatically over the last 10 years.

Everybody is now feeling the pinch of the bad economy and the explosion of free content.

Can you still make it as an affiliate? Sure, you can. But you need to work hard and think outside the box.

It is not all doom and gloom. The bad times are causing competitors to go bust, so get in there and sell, sell, sell !!

Video Rob · 09-29-2009, 06:17 PM

From 2k to 100 a day. I hope you invested some of that easy money.

I still make enough to live off from adult but sales have been on the decline for a long time. Most of my income comes from mainstream now, it's a lot harder to get started but the traffic is gold and i'm working in growing markets where you can't get things for free.

Things can only get worse in adult.

Robbie · 09-29-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Video Rob

sales have been on the decline for a long time.

My money as an affiliate grew every year from 1996 to 2007. In 2008 it went sideways and I made the same as 2007. And in 2009 with the absolute explosion of piracy? It's cut in half.

So I wouldn't say it was in decline for a "long time"

But it's damn sure in a free fall now.

Video Rob · 09-29-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

My money as an affiliate grew every year from 1996 to 2007. In 2008 it went sideways and I made the same as 2007. And in 2009 with the absolute explosion of piracy? It's cut in half.

So I wouldn't say it was in decline for a "long time"

But it's damn sure in a free fall now.

By long time I ment 18 months. Which in online time is a long time.

Robbie · 09-29-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Video Rob

By long time I ment 18 months. Which in online time is a long time.

that's true. Internet years are like "doggie years"

I've always compared my work year by year. Always did revshare with every program that offered it. And of course as the years went by it grew and grew and grew.

But now even the rebills are gone. People find out they are paying for something that everybody else gets for free and they feel suckered and cancel.

xxxjay · 09-29-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

My money as an affiliate grew every year from 1996 to 2007. In 2008 it went sideways and I made the same as 2007. And in 2009 with the absolute explosion of piracy? It's cut in half.

So I wouldn't say it was in decline for a "long time"

But it's damn sure in a free fall now.

Yep, I had the same pattern of earnings.

Stardust_ · 09-29-2009, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0

I'm going to give everyone here 1 tip.

If you aren't a multi multi multi millionaire.....then......

Keep your head down, shut the fuck up, hide out, work hard & re-emerge victorious when the smoke finally clears 1-2 years from now.

That's just my tip to everyone here. Take it with a grain of salt if you wish.

I'm going to be taking my own advice.

RadicalSights · 09-30-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

Doing better now than ever and expanding into more mainstream.

you mean moving into mainstream for good

Sarah_Jayne · 09-30-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I've seen a lot of people towing this line on GFY (most of whom have their own niche related agendas), but I have yet to see a clear example of this happening.

I have done micro niche and 'real' fetish nearly the entire time I have been in this industry. The problem for most people is that they are not willing to properly research the niches and just throw whatever at it and hope it sticks.

Secretly, I love when they do this because it just makes my well researched approach more valuable to those really searching those terms.

Elixir · 09-30-2009, 03:44 AM

It used to be but sales suck now.

kush · 09-30-2009, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There's no money to be made in SEO. Move along folks.
WG

Seriously, is the little pleasure you get from saying that all the time worth all the extra competition you create for yourself?

bbobby86 · 09-30-2009, 06:25 AM

I think the problem a lot of us, who started in the gold days might be having is just that we have relaxed too much because the easy money we were making. Right.

Sexy Rex · 09-30-2009, 07:37 AM

As a program owner I see the same affiliates having to send more traffic over the months to maintain their earnings. The revenues are also more spreaded, more affiliates doing less money each. Here is an overview of our numbers a year appart:

August 2009
City Country Revenue Conv. ratio
1 Mountain View UNITED STATES $11019.99 1/49
2 Glenview UNITED STATES $9537.23 1/59
3 Wien AUSTRIA $6154.76 1/12
4 san francisco UNITED STATES $4160.42 1/74
5 LONDON UNITED KINGDOM $4053.89 1/677
6 Alkmaar NETHERLANDS $4013.82 1/148
7 Saint-Petersburg RUSSIA $3784.25 1/918
8 Brno CZECH REPUBLIC $3551.43 1/562
9 Houston TX UNITED STATES $3186.96 1/452
10 Ridgewood UNITED STATES $3044.81 1/199
11 San Francisco UNITED STATES $2988.31 1/29
12 Paris FRANCE $2552.18 1/73
13 Melbourne AUSTRALIA $2483.91 1/41
14 Laval CANADA $2320.74 1/222
15 Madrid SPAIN $2172.36 1/163
16 ***************** FRANCE $2107.13 1/270
17 Holic SLOVAKIA $1743.89 1/179
18 Beverly Hills UNITED STATES $1652.35 1/527
19 New York UNITED STATES $1579.00 1/160
20 London UNITED KINGDOM $1468.06 1/160

August 2008
City Country Revenue Conv. ratio
1 Mountain View UNITED STATES $11802.01 1/28
2 Glenview UNITED STATES $10969.44 1/49
3 Wien AUSTRIA $7502.22 1/6
4 Alkmaar NETHERLANDS $6402.39 1/133
5 Paris FRANCE $5753.62 1/2
6 san francisco UNITED STATES $4773.95 1/74
7 Ridgewood UNITED STATES $4376.53 1/155
8 Melbourne AUSTRALIA $4032.48 1/34
9 Beverly Hills UNITED STATES $3861.59 1/448
10 Madrid SPAIN $3496.18 1/59
11 Laval CANADA $3215.17 1/206
12 Wattle Park AUSTRALIA $2720.04 1/147
13 Bochum GERMANY $2599.39 1/97
14 Nove Mesto SLOVAKIA $2587.83 1/299
15 Wanchai HONG KONG $2491.11 1/160
16 Driebergen NETHERLANDS $2398.87 1/126
17 Tatabanya HUNGARY $2354.35 1/569
18 Flensburg GERMANY $2256.96 1/132
19 Tatabanya HUNGARY $2225.84 1/464
20 Birmingham UNITED STATES $2170.03 1/95

My take is there is still plenty of money to be made for affiliates, but it aint easy anymore, you need to be organised and know what you're doing.

gideongallery · 09-30-2009, 07:45 AM

once you learn how to exploit the new marketplace
content producers gt all the partner account money
and affiliates go back to the glory days of tgp/mgp.

there is more money for affiliates today then there was at any time in the past.

you guys are on the verge of a vcr type shift.

Paul&John · 09-30-2009, 08:09 AM

Paris FRANCE $5753.62 1/2
nice ratio

Sexy Rex · 09-30-2009, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul&John

Paris FRANCE $5753.62 1/2
nice ratio

That's ourselves emailing old members, too bad we can't have that ratio everywhere ;)

datatank · 09-30-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

You're putting words into my mouth. Where are my references to unemployed or lucky? I called them unintelligent and accused people of following the proven business models of others. I don't care to debate with you. I don't have the time to write novels all night like you do sometimes, although I do like reading your perspective on things, minus all the spam for claudia

.

And, for the record I was there, AND I'm still here. And guess what, minus what I want people to know, NO ONE knows anything else I got goin on.

Going on 11 years now. People know about me what I let them know.

And, what I said IS true. I never said what years anyone came or went, or where those lucky followers and mimickers got their 500 dollar computers.

WIth all due respect Robbie, I don't think you always need to run around telling people "When I did this....When I did that...." people know who you are. It doesn't read well.

I started in early 98, if you want to know. As for before that, I can't speak of it, nor did I reference any specific era. You know when the opportunists that lack much of the required intelligence to operate in this space arrived, and so do I. And, not all of them are followers. There are exceptions to everything.

That oughta do it.

The Porn Nerd · 09-30-2009, 09:10 AM

Affiliates who promote www.felluciablow.com are earning upwards of $1200 per week in profits. Ka-ching people, ka-ching.

96ukssob · 09-30-2009, 09:32 AM

im not pushing my sites as much as I used to and honestly only bringing in about $2k or so a month. when i first got into the game it was easy to make $4-$6k a month in 2002, then has been slowly getting harder and harder. However now my focus is on the SEM agency I work for, so there is no need (or time) to push my sites to bring them back up to that level.

Running a free site or TGP site back then was not easy. The software was very limited and a lot was done manually. Submitting galleries was almost a full time job. Now a days, those tools are cheap and make your job extremely easy, hence is why we have such a surplus of content all over the net.

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Originally Posted by Nicky

This is a problem, I've seen more and more micro-niche tubes pop up.

I think this trend is going to continue. Once there is an affordable "server" tube solution like there are for MGP/TGPs then we will see this 10x more than now.

the real magoo · 09-30-2009, 09:44 AM

Was a full-time gallerysubmitter between 2000 and 2008 and then I got out because sales dropped faster then Paris Hiltons panties. Just for the fun of it I gave it shot earlier this year and I made almost no money at all.

Sad really. All those old TGP sites are just fading away

I miss the good ol` days when you could submit a gallery to TheHun and make a shitload of money the next day.

Got all depressed now

seeric · 09-30-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by datatank

Doctor Feelgood · 09-30-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

I know there has got to be some ex-fulltimers that are no part-timers, and vice versa. People don't spend money on porn anymore. Sure you can push dating and cams, but that still leave a massive void in most webmasters income.

I can speak personally, and say that my affiliate income is down dramatically. In 2003/2004 I was pulling 2k a day or so. Now I'm happy with 100$ a day.

So I ask...

well the end of september is here and i decided to find out how i was doing. i didnt do any work for september and still made 700. ive been uninterested with the whole thing since the summer slowdown. and plus i was playing wow for the past month. i usually do 1200 a month with an hour a day work. well gotta go check my email cause i havent checked it at all this week.

so the answer to your question is NO, i cannot make a living as an affiliate anymore

Iron Fist · 09-30-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the real magoo

I miss the good ol` days when you could submit a gallery to TheHun and make a shitload of money the next day.

Yup... just got another gallery approved there a couple days ago, 0:951 unique (0:1622 raw) on day 1 and 0:177 unique on day 2.

Oh well... I think TheHun needs more hard core stuff, or microniche stuff I think... I'm promoting more softcore teen stuff, and I don't think it's going over too well. Live and learn I guess.

digitaldivas · 09-30-2009, 11:50 PM

People used to network more, and answer emails much more. I have said it once, I will say it again. There was much more of a sense of community in the online adult industry than there is now. Great thread though

MediaManiac · 10-15-2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldy

tip #6: You can't squeeze blood from stone

Most of you are trying to squeeeze money from nothing, there ain't much money to be squeezed now. Go back to school. Find something new to do.
If you haven't made money now, well , unless you are super innovative,hard working, you ain't gonna make shit in the future.

The REALITY must be said.

ohh yeah i will take his wisdom.. working part-time and my ass back to school..

View Poll Results: Is it still worth it to be an affiliate...(NO PROGRAM OWNERS PLEASE)
It used to be but sales suck now.	69	36.13%
I am doing better than ever I am now fulltime	36	18.85%
I can only sell dating and cams	10	5.24%
I don't even make a sale a day sometimes	24	12.57%
I just started an illigal tube and things are GREAT	13	6.81%
I just started an illigal tube and it doesn't really make money	0	0%
I am getting out of adult	14	7.33%
I am going to start putting more time into adult	25	13.09%
Voters: 191. You may not vote on this poll

09-25-2009, 02:50 AM	#152
Icy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 864	I agree with pr0. I don't expect the adult biz to get back to what it was, but i agree with the part he said about working hard again and plan ahead to re-emerge in a year or two. I think the problem a lot of us, who started in the gold days might be having is just that we have relaxed too much because the easy money we were making (well not that it was that easy, i worked up to 14 hours per day until i had my little network). Talking about myself that relaxation also came after a big tragedy when my little daughter died when being less than one month old. It affected me a lot and i barely worked for like a year, having my business on autopilot and luckily making good money, but not expanding as i should have been doing, besides a few sites i purchased and that have ended being good deals I'm still making a good living as i have never been a big expender and also invested most of my profit on properties, but if i have kept the pace i had at first instead of relaxing, i would probably be rich right now like some other TGP guys who started when i did. Instead i'm starting to get worried not about the present or short term future, but about the long term. So I have been thinking lately and after a long summer holidays i took, i have started to work as hard as i did in the past. Now that i'm used again to work a lot of hours (it's hard to get back on earth), i need to sit down and think, study the market, the competition, start to network again as i have over 400 contacts in icq i have not talked with for over a year, etc (btw guys, feel free to contact me again for biz if we haven't talked for a while). At least now i have cash to invest and a good source of traffic, so it's not like starting from zero like in the past. I see other guys i know are posting here about also getting back to work hard as they did, so hopefully this will end on new ideas for the biz. Crockett, nice to read you are also back at full speed, i remember our talks like 3 or 4 years ago when the TGP biz still was alive. The thing is that i'm motivated again, and that is a key in our business, specially if you work alone as i do. Without motivation, it's easy to get lazy and to waste hours not being productive. Ok, enough time expended here with this self psychotherapy, now i'm back to work __________________ Kimia: Make money with mobile traffic, both adult and mainstream Skype: sinlords - ICQ: 83-235-881 email: ivan at kimia.mobi

09-28-2009, 11:24 AM	#159
Oldy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 348	been in the industry since 1998 made millions , saved millions. emphasis on the saved. Noticed this "hotness" of adult internet couldn't continue, so sold everything, went into investments, property, trading since 2005-2006. Fast forward now 3 years: adult industry is in shambles I have 3-4 years of experience in investments, doing very well.... even during the crash. tip #1: recognize when its not your skills , but just a hot market you are in, save the money, invest or train yourself in another long term market. tip #2: Nothing lasts forever. tip #3: predict the future, tip #4: make the right choices now, the future will take care of itself. tip #5 and most important. make the wrong choices now, and you will be taking care of your sick future in due time. Good luck. To everyone. Try your best, and don't squander $ cause $ = your freedom squander it, and welcome to jailhouse #1 = being a brokeass. -RME . fked SE's for a fortune. Last edited by Oldy; 09-28-2009 at 11:26 AM..

09-28-2009, 11:31 AM	#160
Oldy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 348	tip #6: You can't squeeze blood from stone Most of you are trying to squeeeze money from nothing, there ain't much money to be squeezed now. Go back to school. Find something new to do. If you haven't made money now, well , unless you are super innovative,hard working, you ain't gonna make shit in the future. The REALITY must be said. Last edited by Oldy; 09-28-2009 at 11:32 AM..

09-29-2009, 01:42 AM	#164
SarahLLO Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: OH Posts: 1,168	I'm doing better than I have in the past, but I'm not a full-time porn slinger by any means... I also have my hands in a few mainstream sites and an eBay store, I pretty much just am doing things that catch my interest. I enjoy the act of running websites, otherwise I probably wouldn't have even gotten started in adult. I'm probably a normal small/part-time affiliate. According to StatsRemote: -I average around $60/day -My overall sales ratio is around 1:1000-1:1200 (it varies month to month but is always in that range) -I don't have tons of traffic... around 100,000 raw hits a month according to SR. My income has been steadily going up in adult over the past year, but I've been working less because I've been focused on other things. I chalk that up to pure luck, and now that I've got some of my mainstream stuff up and running and producing profits, I should probably get back to doing more than like... 5-6 galleries a month :X __________________ Give me money & buy my links here, damn it!

09-25-2009, 01:58 PM	#154
Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	I've been around since 1998 and it's definitely not as easy as it used to be. But there's STILL plenty of money to be made. As has been pointed out you just need to think outside the box, innovate and not stay stagnant. One great way to find out what's selling it to take advantage of all the promo payouts everyone is having. Every program out there has $100 days. Make a schedule and promote each of those and I'm sure you're going to come across a great seller for your traffic. Take our promo for example: Hotbox.com. We're paying $150 per sale this entire MONTH! At $150 per sale you can't go wrong Anyone promoting us is welcome to hit me up for some pointers.

09-28-2009, 10:20 PM	#161
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	nice to hear some wisdom, Oldy

09-28-2009, 10:45 PM	#162
VisionFantasy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 168	I believe if you target the right traffic for a specific niche affiliates will do extremely well. Before I decided to shoot porn, a friend told me about affiliate stuff. I gave it a shot and so far I made free money. Oh wait I paid $9.95 to go daddy for my domain/affiliate page. lol So I made that back thousand times over! ha ha ha

09-28-2009, 11:22 PM	#163
BetChips Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 643	Over the past month I have just been letting my adult run on auto pilot. Most of my time now has been focused on a range of things. Things have been picking up very nicely in mainstream and a special cpa network I hooked up with. But every month is different in adult, sales fluctuate and that's the nature of the business. Work harder in different areas.

09-29-2009, 05:53 PM	#165
DaddyHalbucks A freakin' legend! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada USA Posts: 18,975	There are some very good observations and advice in this thread. The bottom line is the cheese has moved over the last few years, dramatically over the last 10 years. Everybody is now feeling the pinch of the bad economy and the explosion of free content. Can you still make it as an affiliate? Sure, you can. But you need to work hard and think outside the box. It is not all doom and gloom. The bad times are causing competitors to go bust, so get in there and sell, sell, sell !! __________________ Boner Money

09-29-2009, 06:17 PM	#166
Video Rob Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 496	From 2k to 100 a day. I hope you invested some of that easy money. I still make enough to live off from adult but sales have been on the decline for a long time. Most of my income comes from mainstream now, it's a lot harder to get started but the traffic is gold and i'm working in growing markets where you can't get things for free. Things can only get worse in adult.

09-30-2009, 03:44 AM	#174
Elixir CHECK MY SIG-AMAZING SITE Join Date: May 2006 Location: ICQ: 210-874-419 Posts: 12,870	It used to be but sales suck now. __________________ SIG FOR SALE ICQ 210874419

09-30-2009, 06:25 AM	#176
bbobby86 partners.sexier.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 11,926	I think the problem a lot of us, who started in the gold days might be having is just that we have relaxed too much because the easy money we were making. Right. __________________

09-30-2009, 07:37 AM	#177
Sexy Rex Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: President/CEO - iStripper.com Posts: 1,164	As a program owner I see the same affiliates having to send more traffic over the months to maintain their earnings. The revenues are also more spreaded, more affiliates doing less money each. Here is an overview of our numbers a year appart: August 2009 City Country Revenue Conv. ratio 1 Mountain View UNITED STATES $11019.99 1/49 2 Glenview UNITED STATES $9537.23 1/59 3 Wien AUSTRIA $6154.76 1/12 4 san francisco UNITED STATES $4160.42 1/74 5 LONDON UNITED KINGDOM $4053.89 1/677 6 Alkmaar NETHERLANDS $4013.82 1/148 7 Saint-Petersburg RUSSIA $3784.25 1/918 8 Brno CZECH REPUBLIC $3551.43 1/562 9 Houston TX UNITED STATES $3186.96 1/452 10 Ridgewood UNITED STATES $3044.81 1/199 11 San Francisco UNITED STATES $2988.31 1/29 12 Paris FRANCE $2552.18 1/73 13 Melbourne AUSTRALIA $2483.91 1/41 14 Laval CANADA $2320.74 1/222 15 Madrid SPAIN $2172.36 1/163 16 ***************** FRANCE $2107.13 1/270 17 Holic SLOVAKIA $1743.89 1/179 18 Beverly Hills UNITED STATES $1652.35 1/527 19 New York UNITED STATES $1579.00 1/160 20 London UNITED KINGDOM $1468.06 1/160 August 2008 City Country Revenue Conv. ratio 1 Mountain View UNITED STATES $11802.01 1/28 2 Glenview UNITED STATES $10969.44 1/49 3 Wien AUSTRIA $7502.22 1/6 4 Alkmaar NETHERLANDS $6402.39 1/133 5 Paris FRANCE $5753.62 1/2 6 san francisco UNITED STATES $4773.95 1/74 7 Ridgewood UNITED STATES $4376.53 1/155 8 Melbourne AUSTRALIA $4032.48 1/34 9 Beverly Hills UNITED STATES $3861.59 1/448 10 Madrid SPAIN $3496.18 1/59 11 Laval CANADA $3215.17 1/206 12 Wattle Park AUSTRALIA $2720.04 1/147 13 Bochum GERMANY $2599.39 1/97 14 Nove Mesto SLOVAKIA $2587.83 1/299 15 Wanchai HONG KONG $2491.11 1/160 16 Driebergen NETHERLANDS $2398.87 1/126 17 Tatabanya HUNGARY $2354.35 1/569 18 Flensburg GERMANY $2256.96 1/132 19 Tatabanya HUNGARY $2225.84 1/464 20 Birmingham UNITED STATES $2170.03 1/95 My take is there is still plenty of money to be made for affiliates, but it aint easy anymore, you need to be organised and know what you're doing. __________________ WWW.ISTRIPPER.COM Unique Desktop Strippers since 1998, 20+ Millions users, 3000+ Girls to choose from, All UHD Exclusive Content.

09-30-2009, 07:45 AM	#178
gideongallery Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 7,082	once you learn how to exploit the new marketplace content producers gt all the partner account money and affiliates go back to the glory days of tgp/mgp. there is more money for affiliates today then there was at any time in the past. you guys are on the verge of a vcr type shift. __________________ “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

09-30-2009, 08:09 AM	#179
Paul&John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: YUROP Posts: 8,598	Paris FRANCE $5753.62 1/2 nice ratio __________________ Use coupon 'pauljohn' for a $1 discount at already super cheap NameSilo! Anal Webcams \| Kinky Trans Cams Live \| Hotwife XXX Tube \| Get your Proxies here

09-30-2009, 09:10 AM	#182
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,507	Affiliates who promote www.felluciablow.com are earning upwards of $1200 per week in profits. Ka-ching people, ka-ching. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Skype: peabodymedia

09-30-2009, 09:44 AM	#184
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	Was a full-time gallerysubmitter between 2000 and 2008 and then I got out because sales dropped faster then Paris Hiltons panties. Just for the fun of it I gave it shot earlier this year and I made almost no money at all. Sad really. All those old TGP sites are just fading away I miss the good ol` days when you could submit a gallery to TheHun and make a shitload of money the next day. Got all depressed now Last edited by the real magoo; 09-30-2009 at 09:45 AM..

09-30-2009, 11:50 PM	#188
digitaldivas ..I Heart Cannibal Corpse Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: California Posts: 4,327	People used to network more, and answer emails much more. I have said it once, I will say it again. There was much more of a sense of community in the online adult industry than there is now. Great thread though __________________ ...