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Old 09-23-2009, 11:52 PM   #51
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Calling out 50 thieves...

Ask Eric or Playboy/RealityCash/Adult.com/GFY if they care...

Thanks for speaking up 3xTom!

Maybe it's time for someone to set up a tube site which only links to Brazzers and Playboy/RealityCash/Adult.com, and other known content theft sites/enablers/contributary offenders vids, with "user submitted" videos.

That's called adapting, right?

What's good for the goose...

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Old 09-24-2009, 12:35 AM   #52
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All I can say is...I'm glad my stuff ain't up there.
Try katz, claudia is listed there... along with just about anything else.
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Try katz, claudia is listed there... along with just about anything else.
I don't know what katz is Feel free to icq it to me so more people that might not know what it is won't discover it as well.
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:23 AM   #54
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Old 09-24-2009, 02:57 AM   #55
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where the fuck did this industry go ?
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sue them in small claims court for not paying your license fees.

it's not millions lost - it's hundreds or thousands.

a typical non exclusive license for one video like that is $50 to $100 - 6 videos about $300 to $500
be reasonable in your charges - and within what others in the market are charging

now imagine if they had to send a lawyer to EVERY small claims trial on non payment of licence fees....in 100 different states and countries


if you win and they dont' pay - seize assets to pay the bill - have the URL seized and sold at auction to pay your debt.

if you loose - they can't sue for more than $100 in legal for small claims in most areas- cost them several thousand or more to fight it.

if they don't show up - you win

so SUE - it's what $35 for small claims court filing fees.................you don't need a lawyer
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Why is there no watermark. Did they crop them, or you didn't have watermarks on them?
don't you know? rogue uploader!!!
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sue them in small claims court for not paying your license fees.

it's not millions lost - it's hundreds or thousands.

a typical non exclusive license for one video like that is $50 to $100 - 6 videos about $300 to $500
be reasonable in your charges - and within what others in the market are charging

now imagine if they had to send a lawyer to EVERY small claims trial on non payment of licence fees....in 100 different states and countries


if you win and they dont' pay - seize assets to pay the bill - have the URL seized and sold at auction to pay your debt.

if you loose - they can't sue for more than $100 in legal for small claims in most areas- cost them several thousand or more to fight it.

if they don't show up - you win

so SUE - it's what $35 for small claims court filing fees.................you don't need a lawyer
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Hum.... Wondering why noone has answered my question yet?
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Hum.... Wondering why noone has answered my question yet?


Awww, Tom, don't be a crybaby, honey. The somebodies are doing real business in Amsterdam right now. I'm sure they will get back to you as soon as they can.
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HAHAHHA Awesome Selena...

Ya know the question is quite simple

Can I Buy Ad Space On MY STOLEN Content..???

You would think someone could poke their head in and either say yes or no?
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Old 09-24-2009, 07:00 AM   #65
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I agree shemp 100% Thats why you will see nothing but ADAPT out of my camp over the coming months.... The kind of ADAPTION that will make all the affiliates some decent money again...
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We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)

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pornhub ignores take down notices
Do you have any content, have you ever made a take down notice?
Don't talk about something you have no clue.


As for Robbie... 3 POPS ? :D
Impossible, pornhub has 1 pop per day per IP and not through trafficjunky.

Trafficjunky currently only sells banner placement on-page
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Old 09-24-2009, 07:46 AM   #67
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We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)
Thanks, saved me from sending a DMCA which I had started until I read your reply.

This one is still live - http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=832550271
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We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)
First off thanks for replying and being honest with that answer as well as removing my content from pornhub...

But so I am clear on it

Basically If i buy ad space then for lets just say Raven Riley since that was what it started out asking for... Then my Raven Riley banner could be shown on lets take for instance this stolen video from Kates Playground

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...960eb8366bc118 ??

Is that correct? or am I missing something here?
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give a mainstream landing page a try. probably work better than a paysite.
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First off thanks for replying and being honest with that answer as well as removing my content from pornhub...

But so I am clear on it

Basically If i buy ad space then for lets just say Raven Riley since that was what it started out asking for... Then my Raven Riley banner could be shown on lets take for instance this stolen video from Kates Playground

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...960eb8366bc118 ??

Is that correct? or am I missing something here?
Also note:

Im not ONLY trying to be a little bit of a dick here but I'm also trying to understand the advertising you guys are selling a little better..

I mean if My Raven Riley banner was shown on Kates STOLEN video I dont see getting any joins or monetizing that banner very well... If my banner was going to be shown on THAT video i would want to be advertising katesplayground.com Not RavenRiley.com ...

If I found a "NON STOLEN video"
of a girl using a vibrating finger toy I would want to advertise a vibrating finger toy for sale NOT Raven Riley...

Just seems to me that monetizing my advertising dollars would be better spent doing it that way and not just posting a banner ad for something that is totally irrelevant to the content that you are displaying...
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First off thanks for replying and being honest with that answer as well as removing my content from pornhub...

But so I am clear on it

Basically If i buy ad space then for lets just say Raven Riley since that was what it started out asking for... Then my Raven Riley banner could be shown on lets take for instance this stolen video from Kates Playground

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.ph...960eb8366bc118 ??

Is that correct? or am I missing something here?
Do you own Kates Playground ? If not, get the owner to ask for his video removed... And to answer your question, next to the video ads appear on every videos.
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Also note:

Im not ONLY trying to be a little bit of a dick here but I'm also trying to understand the advertising you guys are selling a little better..

I mean if My Raven Riley banner was shown on Kates STOLEN video I dont see getting any joins or monetizing that banner very well... If my banner was going to be shown on THAT video i would want to be advertising katesplayground.com Not RavenRiley.com ...

If I found a "NON STOLEN video"
of a girl using a vibrating finger toy I would want to advertise a vibrating finger toy for sale NOT Raven Riley...

Just seems to me that monetizing my advertising dollars would be better spent doing it that way and not just posting a banner ad for something that is totally irrelevant to the content that you are displaying...
You will be please to hear that we will have niche/search term targetted advertising in the upcoming month... so you will be able to bid on let's say anal videos with anal sites and so on...etc
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So your search will let me search for terms like "stolen video of raven riley" and then I can advertise or tom can for that site? sweet I am sure tom cant wait to monetize off his own stolen content.

can you add a feature as well so when your "users" are uploading content they can also get passwords to other sites just as a bonus for free?
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HAHAHHA Awesome Selena...

Ya know the question is quite simple

Can I Buy Ad Space On MY STOLEN Content..???

You would think someone could poke their head in and either say yes or no?
You'll have to OUTBID the others who want to profit off your stolen content
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are their any videos which you do own the rights to show?

seems like its ok until you get caught.

so basically i can have my banner on the same page as content you have stolen, so the money you earn from selling the spot is blantly ripping off the people who shot the content, and have no regard for other peoples work.

if your conversions are so good why dont you buy your content, but then again thats why you are selling ad spots, if it was so great would you really be selling them?

$100 pps days vs selling an ad spot, the payout would be much more compared to the money made on the ad spot.
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man profiting from illegal items is very much against the law in canada btw. illegal gains from crime / fraud / misrepresentation is sooo what your doing...

you may just sell the ads, but your turning a profit from illegal items.. I may just have a road trip out to montreal soon
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i think traffic junky is some kind of affiliate rep reality show where they give reps the most hostile potential customers ever to sell to and see how long they last.
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You will be please to hear that we will have niche/search term targetted advertising in the upcoming month... so you will be able to bid on let's say anal videos with anal sites and so on...etc

That answer is just so WRONG!


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We don't offer advertising on specific videos (which I took the liberty to remove)

That was soooooooooo kind of you to remove our stolen videos.

Now, you'll have to forgive me, because I am just a ditzy affiliate manager, but I am a little confused.

When I go to pornhub.com and do a search for Raven Riley, I see that the videos are indeed gone. I can also see some information on them, which shows that they have received a total of 2,511,693 hits. Most were uploaded 1 year ago, with one from 4 months ago, and one from 3 months ago.

You'll have to excuse me, but here is where dizty me gets confused. A year ago, Pornhub posted this your site:

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We have made some drastic changes over the past week in order to make sure Pornhub can remain your favorite Porn Site! Effective immediately, user uploads will go through an approval process where only videos less than 3 minutes and that we are able to give credit to the author is possible, will be accepted. Pornhub wants to remain the number one free porn community on the net, and if we don't implement some content rules, then we can't ensure that this community will have a long future.

We've been forced to remove all copyright & amateur content and while this might seem terrible right now, it does ensure that PornHub will be around for a long time and continue to be the premier porn site on the net.

More details to follow, please be patient as we implement some new features! We're very confident that you'll like the new changes coming up.

We're sorry if these changes cause any inconvenience, but give us a few days and everything will be back to normal and even improved.

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Now, what puzzled me about that is that you publicly announced that you were putting this approval process into place. If I read it right, your process would only allow users to upload vids that ran under 3 minutes in length, and you'd prefer to be able to give credit to the author.

That's a standup kinda guy process, and I applaud you for it.

But...

until you took the liberty of removing them, how was it that Raven had 2 videos that show posted a year ago that are over 10 minutes in duration?

I guess maybe your process guy didn't realize that they were over 3 minutes, and that it was Raven?

And I know there are such a thing as magic join links, but with your process in place, how did a surfer automagically upload a 10:06 Raven clip 4 months ago?



Was the guy that handles your process having a bad day? Or was he just so tired from fapping it to stolen content that he overlooked it?
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That was soooooooooo kind of you to remove our stolen videos.

Now, you'll have to forgive me, because I am just a ditzy affiliate manager, but I am a little confused.

bla bla bla...

Was the guy that handles your process having a bad day? Or was he just so tired from fapping it to stolen content that he overlooked it?
At least 3xTom put up message I have pleasure to read and answer, serious questions...

This long message is just ... borring...We are an ad network, asking us about details on the site we sell advertising on is just like asking you why a certain model put up pink makeup and not purple... you are the affiliate manager, I know you have nothing to do with makeup... I am the ad network, nothing to do with content...
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At least 3xTom put up message I have pleasure to read and answer, serious questions...

This long message is just ... borring...We are an ad network, asking us about details on the site we sell advertising on is just like asking you why a certain model put up pink makeup and not purple... you are the affiliate manager, I know you have nothing to do with makeup... I am the ad network, nothing to do with content...
How about you just sell ads on videos that you know they legally own?

Would that not make everything work a lot better?
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At least 3xTom put up message I have pleasure to read and answer, serious questions...

This long message is just ... borring...We are an ad network, asking us about details on the site we sell advertising on is just like asking you why a certain model put up pink makeup and not purple... you are the affiliate manager, I know you have nothing to do with makeup... I am the ad network, nothing to do with content...
If you have nothing to do with content, how can you remove it?
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So you do not enforce rules and policy about the content on source?

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Something is unclear to me Ladies and Gentlemen: why the hell don't the copyright owners SUE The Fuck Out Of PornHub and Similar Crap? Those dudes should get fucked in the ass in the jail ten times per day for a decade with long, curvy, thick and Desert Dry Dongs.

Who will do something? Me the little-fish-gallery-submitter-affiliate fucktard??
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You can just stretch them a little at the bottom and the watermark is gone. They have set up their serverside encoder to do just that.
When I actually submitted a video to them I watermarked it at the top...lol
They immediately wrote me and told me that they don't do "free advertising"

That was about a month and a half ago. I just laughed. Hell, they could have just put the vid up there and put their affiliate code on it for Claudia-Marie.com They are affiliates of just about every program out there from their tgp business. But nope. For such great converting traffic...they don't seem to want any part of trying to make it convert.
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Something is unclear to me Ladies and Gentlemen: why the hell don't the copyright owners SUE The Fuck Out Of PornHub and Similar Crap? Those dudes should get fucked in the ass in the jail ten times per day for a decade with long, curvy, thick and Desert Dry Dongs.

Who will do something? Me the little-fish-gallery-submitter-affiliate fucktard??
because the DMCA protects them


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Old 09-24-2009, 10:39 AM   #87
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At least 3xTom put up message I have pleasure to read and answer, serious questions...

This long message is just ... borring...We are an ad network, asking us about details on the site we sell advertising on is just like asking you why a certain model put up pink makeup and not purple... you are the affiliate manager, I know you have nothing to do with makeup... I am the ad network, nothing to do with content...
wrong answer.. beware sarcastic women
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this is just bizarre
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Old 09-24-2009, 10:45 AM   #89
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If you have nothing to do with content, how can you remove it?
Technically by removing it without being served with a dmca he invalidated their dmca protection..
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:09 AM   #90
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At least 3xTom put up message I have pleasure to read and answer, serious questions...

This long message is just ... borring...
you nailed it on the head.

all of her posts are like that, borrrring.
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:34 AM   #91
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If you have nothing to do with content, how can you remove it?
The big secret is I sent an email to [email protected] ....
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Old 09-24-2009, 11:51 AM   #92
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The big secret is I sent an email to [email protected] ....
That's interesting. I wasn't aware that an independent 3rd party traffic broker who has nothing to do with content on a site that they sell ads for could request the removal of content that they aren't the owner of.
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As for Robbie... 3 POPS ? :D
Impossible, pornhub has 1 pop per day per IP and not through trafficjunky.

Trafficjunky currently only sells banner placement on-page
Then the 1 pop per ip would explain why I couldn't duplicate the pop up.

As far as there being THREE pop ups that I saw...well, I guess that might have come from your inexperience in traffic deals. You guys didn't invent shadiness you know. lol

There's a lot of guys out here who perfected it.
So if you only do the one popup and I got three...that means that one of your clients is "monetizing the traffic" with popups off his site.

I NEVER linked to sites that did that. But then again I was doing this from the mid 1990's on. And you have only....how did you say it "been in the traffic trenches for 5 years" (whatever that means)

Anyway, that explains the three pop ups and my inability yesterday to duplicate it.
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That's interesting. I wasn't aware that an independent 3rd party traffic broker who has nothing to do with content on a site that they sell ads for could request the removal of content that they aren't the owner of.
I can't believe that... YOU WIN, next time you find your content on PH, I'll make sure not to interfere with procedures
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That's interesting. I wasn't aware that an independent 3rd party traffic broker who has nothing to do with content on a site that they sell ads for could request the removal of content that they aren't the owner of.

ouch..... big ballsy hammer hitting the tiny nail.... waiting for this response...

for those just tuning in... only the content owner can submit a DMCA request, since part of the submission process is you are acknowledging you are the copyright owner, blah, blah, blah.

if you submit a false DMCA report, like if you were the competitor and wanted to have your competitors stuff taken down, submitting a DMCA request would get you into mucho legal trouble.



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I can't believe that... YOU WIN, next time you find your content on PH, I'll make sure not to interfere with procedures

Thanks for clarifying your statement that you had nothing to do with content.
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Try katz, claudia is listed there... along with just about anything else.
Hey thanks for the info. I went and checked it and downloaded some of it. As I suspected it's the small low res over watermarked downloadable version I give my members and not the high quality protected stream.

I'm having all those links removed as we speak.
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PornHub removed my content. All of it.
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PornHub removed my content. All of it.
For now
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That's interesting. I wasn't aware that an independent 3rd party traffic broker who has nothing to do with content on a site that they sell ads for could request the removal of content that they aren't the owner of.
traffic junky = brazzers

they only sell for sites they own

its suppose to be common knowledge
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