CDSmith

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I've said my piece on this topic, nothing more to add to it.

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stickyfingerz

Where there are views there will be people in line to get those eyes on their products. And of course I know you are one of the ones that have been fighting content theft so we are on the same team on this, I just see it differently on the side of gfy accepting the skin. And letting the skin cloud the real problem and divert focus on the real issue is the REAL problem. Im glad they did it, but also its laughable that some of these gfy "protestors" are suddenly the biggest haters of content theft suddenly. Smacks of hypocrisy, and especially when many of them push traffic ALREADY to the owners of pornhub and tube8 and don't have a problem lining their pockets that way, yet gfy takes some money by selling their ad services here and OMG!! Bloody fuckin murder.

Its pathetic and its a thinly veiled bandwagon leap. Many of the people are just jumping on the side they think will garner their own business the most new customers. LAME! Unless they can show me at some point in the last 2 years where they have taken a stand and stood up to do something to stop content theft they are just frankly full of shit.

So many ulterior motives around here its laughable.

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SleazyDream

I'm disappointed in Eric.

in the old days he'd have his boxing gloves on and participate in this shit slinging thread.

When did Eric decide he wanted to be clean and not smelly like the rest of us?

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AtlantisCash

i wouldn't want to be involved in any sides here, but what's funny is, almost everyone here was trying to prove us How much those peeps can suck Ice's balls (which You call it ass licking), but now he becomes Joe Dalton for the so called "Lucky Luke"s, Thats so pathetic and lame :2cents

SleazyDream

i have no idea what the fuck you are trying to say there

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AtlantisCash

i wouldn't want to be involved in any sides here, but what's funny is, almost everyone was trying to prove us How much those peeps can suck Ice's balls (which You call it ass licking), but now he becomes Joe Dalton for the so called "Lucky Luke"s, Thats so pathetic and lame

SmokeyTheBear

i'm curious as to how plastering the name of tubesites that directly steal product from your parent company playboy's stockholders profits helps the industry or playboy stockholders in any way ? Whats next ? Will you put up ads for drug dealers so we can stop drug dealing ?

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SleazyDream

I still have no idea what the fuck you are trying to say here.

and repeating the same thing kinda just makes you an idiot.....

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AtlantisCash

it was just a copy/paste error done by the mistake, i don't repeat anything.

what i m trying to say is so much hypocrisy around, No need to show Your arrogance, Mate

SleazyDream

umm , a copy paste error IS repeating yourself - error or no error - it's still repeating yourself.

arrogant, asshole, fat bastard -call me what you want...

I'm sensing you're not capable of admitting things to yourself and look for excuses.....

and that's laughable

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AtlantisCash

i accidentally copied the previous message and re posted it again thats all, i don't know what You talking about mate, don't mind me, just enjoy Your Day and Got a Nice Work

SleazyDream

still can't admit it... dude you got a serious problem...

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rowan

If the skin was pulled prematurely then surely trafficjunky would have received a pro rated refund?

Or maybe the buzz it generated was still worth it...

Dirty Dane

Awareness? "Healthy" debate? 100% greater good? Sponsored by Brazzers??? Yeah right...
People left this board, not because they couldn't behave and got banned, but voluntary in protest. They had enough of the obvious.

If your intention is to fight content theft, why not create a sub-forum where the webmasters can report infringements? Make stickies "how to" fight and deal with it? Organize and focus? Why not? That would be awareness and for the greater good!

signbucks

double that

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MrMaxwell

Since when is it a crime for some wealthy white people to experiment and or even play with something they own... LoL over here.. I still say it's a Howard Stern effect..

nico-t

this thread is one big LOL

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please leave my boys out of this, thanks...

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TheLegacy

It's safe to say that Eric and Ice along with the team at GFY were caught in a situation and did the right thing. As Ice was on the front lines Eric I am sure was working behind the scene's to look and correct the situation unaware of how the webmaster community would feel so strongly about it. The team I am sure knew of tubes and the overall feeling from webmasters but that GFY's rule book had nothing written down regarding doing business with them. Now a prescience has been set with consequences that will be remembered and copied by other boards in how they deal with tubes and future problem companies - that webmasters ARE the one's who guide decision making.

Thanks GFY for making a landmark decision instead of letting it run it's course and waiting a few weeks until it blows over as we all know it would eventually. I know it wasn't an easy one, but it was the right one. Bringing back those that were banned was also a wise move.

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DamageX

Kindly remove your lips from Eric's ass. Thank you.

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stickyfingerz

Still waiting for all the "protesters" to show where they have in the recent past made some or of an effort to stop theft, and show they weren't really just bandwagon jumping with their indignation...

SmokeyTheBear

i totally agree. You cant disagree with murder unless you have actually helped catch a murderer. Same with bank robbers, nobody should say anything bad about bank robbers unless they personally have made an effort to stop them. Infact you should praise bank robbers and support them unless you have personally done something to stop it. You shouldnt even be allowed to have an opinion unless you have punched a bank robber in the face.

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stickyfingerz

Ya that makes a perfect parallel to this. That is if fighting murder suddenly became the cool thing and people that have murdered in the past, or sent money to murders in the past and even currently were suddenly "murder protestors".



Come on sheep "I show you other magical posting land where no content theft occur.. you will have much business from impressing other sheep with your tales of protest of evil gfy.. no it does not matter if you didn't lift a finger in the past. All sheep may get free ride on bandwagon of self indignation and will much impress other fellow shee.. err protestors.."

CYF

Looks like they took your advice and made a forum for content theft.

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HomeFry

That is an expensive forum.

TheStout

Im assuming you are being sarcastic here

The Duck

Wait, what?

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You have got to be fucking kidding me!

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what a pile of.........

nation-x

You really think you know what the fuck you are talking about don't you?

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I'm loving this thread.... down with da pirates ARRRRRRR!!!!

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stickyfingerz

sounds pretty dead on to me there.

will76

His comparison is off.

If Tube8 offered anyone here a nice big paid advertising deal, would they turn it down? Considering most people here make next to nothing what do you think the answer to that question would be (99% would take it).

Most people here don't like Tube8 because what they are doing " is wrong". They disagree with it. But most of them aren't the ones being ripped off by Tube8 as most of the people here don't produce content or own membership sites and it isn't THEIR content that is being blasted all over Tube 8 for free.

Most of the people here also don't several clients that they make millions off of, and these same clients are also being ripped off by Tube8.

Still sound dead on ?

Playboy Inc accepted money to skin GFY from a company that profits off of playboy's own content. Playboy Inc accepted money to promote a company that steals from several of Playboy Inc's own customers. Customers who have spent millions of dollars with them over the years. The payment accepted from Traffic Junky is likely about 2% of what GFY makes a year.

Would any Joe Blow here who thinks content theft is bad accept the payment, hell yeah they would. They don't make much money if any and that payment might be more than they make in a year. The tube site is not stealing from them, and they wouldn't be pissing on their other customers who the tube site is stealing from. Are these people hypocritical, sure, but that doesn't make what Playboy Inc did ok.

Playboy Inc can not be compared to Joe Blow poster here.

Should a business be faulted for wanting to make money? hell no. But that business should think their actions through from a financial standpoint if nothing else. If the business has no business ethics and doesn't practice good business then that is their choice but they should think their actions though a little better. It's one thing to promote and do business with a company that is stealing from you, but when you promote the company that is also stealing from your customers then that is just bad business. All of that just for about 2% of your anual income. It only takes losing 1 or 2 of your LOYAL customers, who get pissed by your greedy actions to COST your more than you made off of the skin.

So does it make sense to me that they did, hell no, but I am not greedy and try to look at the big picture and I practice good business. I wouldn't piss on my LOYAL customers who represent 98% of my income.

Does it make a little better sense now ?

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stickyfingerz

You should continue to focus on the actual problem rather than gfy putting a skin up. That COST the tube sites and traffic junky money to do. More money out of their pocket good. Too many people getting sidetracked and pointing the focus at "hurting gfy" which is just logically retarded. Focus on the ACTUAL problem which is content theft, and the saturation done by programs as well with giving out 40% of their members areas for affiliates to use to "promote" them. Thats what started all this shit. People trying to give away more and more free of ... the product we sell (brilliant).. hoping to get more sales... its one of the most retarded business models in history imo. Then on top of it. Lets host all the content for the affiliate too that gets 50% or a huge pps... ok Im done back to work...

will76

Sure... but I was just replying to a post about " a company shouldn't be faulted for trying to make money and everyone here would take the money if they had the opportunity to". If people have that attitude, which is wrong, good luck on getting them to understand and agree with any of what you said above.

also good luck with the core problem and trying to fix it, pointing out if people are bandwagon jumpers or not, or getting off track and worrying about gfy, whoever was fighting this a couple years ago, protecting you own content, etc etc etc.... No one here is going to fix tube sites, this isn't 2257 where it is the gov vs all of porn or acacia vs all of porn, this is porn vs porn. Too many people are already on the side with tube sites, big porn companies own tube sites, or people are doing business with tube sites. There will be no resolution, no amount of posts is going to change anything.

People like Steve Lightspeed or 3x tom can't fix tube sites, but what they can do is choose to stop doing business with other companies who are working with tube sites that is stealing their content. Does that fix their problem, hell no, but every now and then it makes helpless people feel a little better to take a stand even if it is a small one or a moral victory. It's one thing to lose money to tube sites when there is really nothing you can do about it but its another thing, actually a spit in the face when you spend 15 - 20K a year with a company who decides to do business with the company fucking you.

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EthnicLover

Can't wait to see where that money was spent fighting theft.

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Aussie Rebel

Interesting thread indeed, Not what I expected that's for sure. Be interesting to see where this goes from here.

Tjeezers

GFY is not a neutral playground anymore, and a bad place for a discussion about tube sites. GFY is now an extension tool for those tubes, and supports fully the theft by accepting their money.

I will drop no valuable information AT GFY anymore. Cause this is a troll board not a discussion board. Oohh Eric, please take a shovel and stick that in your ass, you might get the same feeling we small webmasters have when we see and read your transparent comment. You only reacted here cause you thought you we`re obligated to tell something. But the message was already made, its all for the money, dom ta domperdiedom

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okny

What kind of theory is that so tomorrow you put up a company that supports kiddy porn so you would say the same thing? I think not, regardless of the money it's the support that you lose.

Btw the posters are who make this board and no donation is needed we donate our time in her and that's worth more then money.

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Nothing against Eric or Ice which is understandable it's not their choice who goes up as an advertiser they are just doing their job. But it wasn't the greatest move by the company just my

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