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Old 09-28-2009, 01:27 PM   #151
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:04 PM   #152
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Our intention was to turn around and take all proceeds that would normally benefit GFY and immediately use them to battle true content theft in as many levels as possible.
And what are you going to do?
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:26 PM   #153
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:41 PM   #154
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Complete and utter bullshit gfy. I agree with HowlingWulf...when are we gonna see a torrent skin?
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:45 PM   #155
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Our intention was to turn around and take all proceeds that would normally benefit GFY and immediately use them to battle true content theft in as many levels as possible.
are you fucking kidding me? you guys fucked up and that should be your appology, not some bullshit excuse playing it off as some kind of noble and worthy cause.

would it be ok if i sold drugs as long as i donate part of the money to drug rehab programs?

or how about if i use hidden pre-checked cross sales as long as i donate a portion of the proceeds toward credit card fraud!

this is almost as bad as the board skin! this just shows us how stupid you think we are.

oh and by the way, this is not how you have a "healthy" debate over a topic. pick a topic like religion, politics, health care, ect....not fucking around with someone's hard work and income.
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:53 PM   #156
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so so so stupid.... jesus, are you kidding?
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:08 PM   #158
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:21 PM   #159
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oh, and by the way...why the fuck would a tube site owner pay a shit load of money to advertise on a board that hates those fuckers in the first place!

this seems like a double slap in the face. they spent the money just to fuck with us and you guys helped them.
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:40 PM   #160
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I'm a part time affiliate, since 2004, who runs this network of sites: http://www.sharphead.net/trades.php

My sig is purchased until the end of this year...on this board and every board I post on. I choose NOT to run a program or open a solo site, just doesn't fit with my lifestyle and to be honest.. i'm getting too old to get into that bullshit anyways.

There you go... now I gotta run.. be back later tonight...
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Old 09-28-2009, 03:58 PM   #161
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This thread has more views than the bitch threads combined.

People love a train wreck.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:19 PM   #162
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That sounds like you're pumping the breaks and doing some damage control to me
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:46 PM   #164
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Sorry, but this is one stupidest excuse I ever heard.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:56 PM   #165
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are you fucking kidding me? you guys fucked up and that should be your appology, not some bullshit excuse playing it off as some kind of noble and worthy cause.

would it be ok if i sold drugs as long as i donate part of the money to drug rehab programs?

or how about if i use hidden pre-checked cross sales as long as i donate a portion of the proceeds toward credit card fraud!

this is almost as bad as the board skin! this just shows us how stupid you think we are.

oh and by the way, this is not how you have a "healthy" debate over a topic. pick a topic like religion, politics, health care, ect....not fucking around with someone's hard work and income.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:04 PM   #166
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GFY did not take the TRAFFIC JUNKY skin lightly, it was thought about long and hard. In the end we took a skin from a traffic brokering company. Where their traffic is developed and who their clients are did make this decision quite a bit more difficult for us. In the end our decision came down to a couple of simple FACTS!

Question: Would we profit from this or could we do something for the greater good by taking this skin?

Answer: YES, 100% for the greater good! Our intention was to turn around and take all proceeds that would normally benefit GFY and immediately use them to battle true content theft in as many levels as possible. Additionally, we felt that this was a great opportunity to allow the community to gain awareness and participate in healthy debate. Leaving the choice of support up to the community and not us.

Some individuals decided that they would take that debate beyond healthy, that was their choice. I don't blame them because this is an issue that is a very hot button for almost everyone, no matter what side of the fence you sit on.

All users banned this past week for posting links to other forums have been given a complete pardon and been unbanned. If I missed unbanning you please email myself or ICE and we will take care of it. If you were banned for another reason, that reason stands.

Putting this skin in front of all of you gave you, THE COMMUNITY, the opportunity to decide who and how you want to run your business. That is not for us to say. The community as a whole picks and chooses who survives and how the dollars we generate should be spent and who they should support. I would never tell anyone that they are forced to do this or that with their business.


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Good to see that you've been defending him throughout this whole ordeal while he was under attack from all sides by people that thought he WAS among the decision makers. Oh wait, this post is from TODAY, nevermind. You're lucky Ice is still working for you instead of quitting after his employer left him in the snake pit. Seems as if all GFY's class are belong to Ice.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:07 PM   #167
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i haven't been around this industry very long but i always thought this board was interesting. there is some drama now and then but some good info can be found by some of the people some of the time. GFY showed their greedy little ass over the last week and i hope it will take it's toll by hitting them where it hurts the most...their wallet!

it was bad enough when we thought you just did it for the money, now you insult us with this fucking ridiculous sticky!

i'm going to practice what i preach by not supporting anything that is illegal, especially when it impacts me directly by taking money away from me or my friends.

this is my last post and i want to end with this...

GO FUCK YOUSELF!!!!
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GFY is divided on this issue. At first glance, it may seem as though the GFY community is against tubes, but that is not entirely true. Only those who are against tubes speak out on the subject. Proponents of tubes simply keep quiet and buy spots. I noticed lots of big sponsors kept quiet on this issue. It is obvious, they are either advocates of tubes or are buying traffic from them.
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Good to see that you've been defending him throughout this whole ordeal while he was under attack from all sides by people that thought he WAS among the decision makers. Oh wait, this post is from TODAY, nevermind. You're lucky Ice is still working for you instead of quitting after his employer left him in the snake pit. Seems as if all GFY's class are belong to Ice.
dude im anti that skin, but if you think someone should quit because message board people are pissy then man you take this waaaaay to seriously. yeah it sucked balls and it does suck ass that what happened happened... but its a msg board for fuck sakes!
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dude im anti that skin, but if you think someone should quit because message board people are pissy then man you take this waaaaay to seriously. yeah it sucked balls and it does suck ass that what happened happened... but its a msg board for fuck sakes!
It has nothing to do with message board people being pissy and everything to do with being everyone's beat-stick for a week because his employer decided to make a horrible decision without any explanation and hide for a week, basically forcing his name into most conversations about a tube skin on GFY because he was the only GFY admin/mod public throughout it. They didn't support him in any way while that skin was up despite him being constantly bombarded with people questioning HIS integrity, especially with all the bannings he had to do. Some people that fled to other boards over this may not see this sticky and may still think Ice is the asshole at GFY, all because Eric couldn't take a few minutes to make a post...hell, even 2 seconds to simply say "this was my call, Ice was not the decision maker" or something along those lines. God forbid Ice should ever want to do business on his own someday, do you think he should be in any way tied to a tube skin at an adult webmaster forum or banning legends who disagreed with it? Obviously he couldn't post an explanation of their decision himself because he would have no way of explaining Eric/Playboy's mindset behind that decision (and if the original post is actually true, even if he would have GUESSED, he'd have been wrong for sure). Ice has surely taken flack from people before, but this was a week he should not have had to endure. He pressed on and did anyways so good for him.

Heck, one of the major things that helped pry me from the company I had worked for for 4 years was that I was constantly on the front lines fighting to retain clients and ensure we were giving them good prompt service and I rarely got any support from management or even acknowledgement of my efforts. After the fact is nice and all but isn't good enough. If you were a manager of a Walmart and for a week you had to put up advertisements throughout the store for Martinez the illegal drug dealer down the street with no explanation as to why the decision was made and you are the one left to get bitched at by all the customers, would YOU continue working for Walmart after that?
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http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gfy.com ya quite a boycott with the alexa shooting up.
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Many of you learned a shit load of information due to this forum that has made you fortunes. Everyone needs to pause and think of that. Sad state of affairs...
Its the Members which make a forum great or not, it has nothing to do with the forum/site itself. If all Members walked away you would have nothing. As far as Im concerned it is GFY whom is lucky to have such great, helpful Members, not the other way around... we can talk the same shit do the same biz anywhere but we chose GFY and for that they should feel honored to have us.

The way we were treated shows no respect for us, the Memebers, which have/has made GFY what it is today.
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Is it just me or am I seeing things...

Skin was for TrafficJunky correct? I don't see a single tube site on Traffic Junky. I see that they are a broker for tube traffic, but I don't see a skin on that domain.

So, if we are to look at the logic that is being stated here in this thread. GFY takes a skin from a company that works with tubes. Now I looked on another board and I see certain banned personalities who work and shoot very good content for Twisty's tearing GFY apart for their decision. If they shoot for Twisty's and Twisty's works with Tubes, isn't this the same thing?

Additionally, I see MikeSouth started a new board. I go to his TGP and he is promoting Brazzers in his galleries. Well Brazzers has been shown to be the owners of TrafficJunky. So they work directly with the tubes.

All things that make me say hmmm....
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Is it just me or am I seeing things...

Skin was for TrafficJunky correct? I don't see a single tube site on Traffic Junky. I see that they are a broker for tube traffic, but I don't see a skin on that domain.

So, if we are to look at the logic that is being stated here in this thread. GFY takes a skin from a company that works with tubes. Now I looked on another board and I see certain banned personalities who work and shoot very good content for Twisty's tearing GFY apart for their decision. If they shoot for Twisty's and Twisty's works with Tubes, isn't this the same thing?

Additionally, I see MikeSouth started a new board. I go to his TGP and he is promoting Brazzers in his galleries. Well Brazzers has been shown to be the owners of TrafficJunky. So they work directly with the tubes.

All things that make me say hmmm....
Their skin on GFY specifically had 3 tubes in it, prominently placed throughout the skin. Even if they themselves aren't a tube site, if you don't understand the issue there, then not sure I can help you. If it was simply TrafficJunky without use of the tube images, I doubt 90% of the people that were upset would have still been upset.

That's aside from the fact that it's a traffic broker selling traffic that's been gotten pretty much entirely from theft advertising on a board with most of the thief's victims.
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Is it just me or am I seeing things...

Skin was for TrafficJunky correct? I don't see a single tube site on Traffic Junky. I see that they are a broker for tube traffic, but I don't see a skin on that domain.

So, if we are to look at the logic that is being stated here in this thread. GFY takes a skin from a company that works with tubes. Now I looked on another board and I see certain banned personalities who work and shoot very good content for Twisty's tearing GFY apart for their decision. If they shoot for Twisty's and Twisty's works with Tubes, isn't this the same thing?

Additionally, I see MikeSouth started a new board. I go to his TGP and he is promoting Brazzers in his galleries. Well Brazzers has been shown to be the owners of TrafficJunky. So they work directly with the tubes.

All things that make me say hmmm....
brazzers owns tube8/pornhub/keezmovies
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Their skin on GFY specifically had 3 tubes in it, prominently placed throughout the skin. Even if they themselves aren't a tube site, if you don't understand the issue there, then not sure I can help you. If it was simply TrafficJunky without use of the tube images, I doubt 90% of the people that were upset would have still been upset.

That's aside from the fact that it's a traffic broker selling traffic that's been gotten pretty much entirely from theft advertising on a board with most of the thief's victims.
So in the skin a traffic broker decided to add in their largest clients. Ok I get that, but there was never a link to those sites, just an image BFD.

Please tell me where GFY taking money from Brazzers/Traffic Junky is any different than the above mentioned individuals, who have been very negatively vocal about this skin and GFY, taking money from Twisty's or Brazzers? In the end these are business decisions and every person in the industry makes them.

This is Show Business not Show Friends, right?
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Slow down there chief.

You are going too fast for 99% of GFY masses to apparently follow the logic.

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Pretty lame attempt to clear up a really bad mistake in judgement. I would have passed on the skin and made notice that action ... THEN you would have people's respect ... not a week after the fact.

Whoever thought up that cover story really needs to lay off the dope.
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So you wanted everybody freaking out knowing that a lot of people would over it? gfy labrats kinda? You watched alot of honest and good posters walk because of it and that's what you wanted? Not very nice and I think it back fired bigtime. Just my not that it matters. Im gonna go eat some muffins now.
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Oops, forgot to say that in my last reply. Duh.
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Slow down there chief.

You are going too fast for 99% of GFY masses to apparently follow the logic.

NO TIME TO CATCHUP!! People have a bandwagon to try to jump on... who has time for logic and rational thought?
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To all the people bitching. Exactly WHAT have you done to try and help stop content theft? When did you pick up the torch? Im just curious cause I have been beating the drum for a long time now and got laughed at by a WHOLE lot of you that are now crying about the skin, and suddenly all up in arms about the "tubes". What have you done? What threads have you started in the past to discuss it. Have you tried to organize anything to help stop it?

I mean if you are going to step... step up. Im so surprised so many of you are suddenly indignant and ready to set cars on fire and break windows out of buildings as you riot about the tubes so suddenly. So PLEASE PLEASE tell us all what you have tried to do to stop the problem. I see most of the ones that ACTUALLY give a shit about content theft are still here posting and didn't really form any "gfy protests". The ones that have stood in the past and tried to come up with ideas, and get the word out weren't mad at gfy about the skin (for the most part with a few exceptions).

So what have you done? What thread have you previously started about it? What threads have you posted in in the past showing your support to stop content theft and tubes? Do tell.. Thinly veiled thinly veiled..
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To all the people bitching. Exactly WHAT have you done to try and help stop content theft? When did you pick up the torch? Im just curious cause I have been beating the drum for a long time now and got laughed at by a WHOLE lot of you that are now crying about the skin, and suddenly all up in arms about the "tubes". What have you done? What threads have you started in the past to discuss it. Have you tried to organize anything to help stop it?

I mean if you are going to step... step up. Im so surprised so many of you are suddenly indignant and ready to set cars on fire and break windows out of buildings as you riot about the tubes so suddenly. So PLEASE PLEASE tell us all what you have tried to do to stop the problem. I see most of the ones that ACTUALLY give a shit about content theft are still here posting and didn't really form any "gfy protests". The ones that have stood in the past and tried to come up with ideas, and get the word out weren't mad at gfy about the skin (for the most part with a few exceptions).

So what have you done? What thread have you previously started about it? What threads have you posted in in the past showing your support to stop content theft and tubes? Do tell.. Thinly veiled thinly veiled..
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To all the people bitching. Exactly WHAT have you done to try and help stop content theft? When did you pick up the torch? Im just curious cause I have been beating the drum for a long time now and got laughed at by a WHOLE lot of you that are now crying about the skin, and suddenly all up in arms about the "tubes". What have you done? What threads have you started in the past to discuss it. Have you tried to organize anything to help stop it?

I mean if you are going to step... step up. Im so surprised so many of you are suddenly indignant and ready to set cars on fire and break windows out of buildings as you riot about the tubes so suddenly. So PLEASE PLEASE tell us all what you have tried to do to stop the problem. I see most of the ones that ACTUALLY give a shit about content theft are still here posting and didn't really form any "gfy protests". The ones that have stood in the past and tried to come up with ideas, and get the word out weren't mad at gfy about the skin (for the most part with a few exceptions).

So what have you done? What thread have you previously started about it? What threads have you posted in in the past showing your support to stop content theft and tubes? Do tell.. Thinly veiled thinly veiled..
Dropping like a stone... [sarcasm] Ill be waiting with baited breath to hear all the replies on what the people suddenly complaining about content theft and tubes have done in the past, threads they made, efforts they have put forth etc.. [/sarcasm]
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You know, I have known Eric for years...he has always been honest, a straight shooter, helpful, and yeah, a steadfast person in our Industry.

He has never, ever had any issues of any sort of ethics issues, never once been caught in a bad scheme or lie with me.

So I am going to sig spot here in full support of Eric... Eric...Im sure you are doing the right things...your behavior has never been anything different.
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To the entire adult community,

GFY did not take the TRAFFIC JUNKY skin lightly, it was thought about long and hard. In the end we took a skin from a traffic brokering company. Where their traffic is developed and who their clients are did make this decision quite a bit more difficult for us. In the end our decision came down to a couple of simple FACTS!

Question: Would we profit from this or could we do something for the greater good by taking this skin?

Answer: YES, 100% for the greater good! Our intention was to turn around and take all proceeds that would normally benefit GFY and immediately use them to battle true content theft in as many levels as possible. Additionally, we felt that this was a great opportunity to allow the community to gain awareness and participate in healthy debate. Leaving the choice of support up to the community and not us.

Some individuals decided that they would take that debate beyond healthy, that was their choice. I don't blame them because this is an issue that is a very hot button for almost everyone, no matter what side of the fence you sit on.

All users banned this past week for posting links to other forums have been given a complete pardon and been unbanned. If I missed unbanning you please email myself or ICE and we will take care of it. If you were banned for another reason, that reason stands.

Putting this skin in front of all of you gave you, THE COMMUNITY, the opportunity to decide who and how you want to run your business. That is not for us to say. The community as a whole picks and chooses who survives and how the dollars we generate should be spent and who they should support. I would never tell anyone that they are forced to do this or that with their business.

Lastly, I want to give a huge SHOUT OUT to ICE, he is not a decision maker when it comes to these types of things. This week he took a lot of heat from many, in my eyes he handled it with flying colors and his efforts have not gone un-noticed.
LMAO... you got to be kidding me.

So how much money was collected from the skin and where is the proof it was spent for the greater good? And how was it spent for that matter? Why was this not disclosed before hand, oh man, so many questions.... I will take the "Not" for believe it or not... poor attempt at bullshit. You guys should hire me or someone else to do spin controll.... This reply sounds like it was written by LARS or AFF's idiot attornies trying to explain "adware collisions".

This response i think is insulting. It means you really believe people here are idiots, because for you to post this you must have expected some people to believe it. You would have done better just not replying at all.
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sig i couldnt think of anything else to say.
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In the sports world if you deny using steroids nobody believes you and you are blackballed and assumed to be guilty.
If you admit to having fucked up all is forgiven. Your fans come back and you are loved once again. You are only human afterall.


In the adult industry if you deny doing anything wrong you are in the clear. As long as you never admit to being wrong it's all good. You are a bro.
If you stand up like a man. Acknowledge and admit to what you did and try to do things to either fix it or move forward you are condemned til the end of your days.


It's interesting. It's like webmasters prefer to be naive and never be told the easter bunny doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure that is because as long as a company denies doing something wrong the webmasters feel good about doing business with that company and don't feel they are guilty by association.
actually, the assholes get it both ways. I've seen a lot of people on here lie cheat and steal, get caught red handed and then say "opps me sooo sorry" and everyone say " WOW topnotch, that is real big of you" blah blah fucking bullshit.

So you can't lose either way. The moron sheep believe BS like the orginal post in here (denying everything) and they will say " ah so that was it".... either way, people always get excused in this industry or at least on this site. But then you take the good people who do good business, never cheat anyone and the trolls here try to rip them apart.
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Its funny this was all a "trick" to get the bad guys money and use it against them. blah blah.... till the next site like traffic junky comes along and the site is skinned again LOL/
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http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gfy.com ya quite a boycott with the alexa shooting up.
its hardly about the alexa ranking but more about the paying sponsors who decided to stop advertising here. Just 1 sponsor pulls his ad dollars from this site, they lose more that over the next year and half (just from 1 person) than they made from the skin. If they lost, 2,3,4,5 advertisers... do the math.

Do you think GFY really cares that much about a few posters leaving? 20 people leaving isn't going to move alexa which is probably mostly surfer traffic anyways.


To all the people saying " good move with the unbanning" are you really serious? The people who got banned decided they didn't want to post on this site anymore. To prove to everyone they felt this way they got banned, on purpose. They wanted to be banned. How is the "unbanning" such a good move when those people don't want to come back anyway. It just makes GFY try to look better when it is really irrelevant.

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you do realize you have made 114,248 use less posts on this site right?
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It's interesting. It's like webmasters prefer to be naive and never be told the easter bunny doesn't exist. I'm pretty sure that is because as long as a company denies doing something wrong the webmasters feel good about doing business with that company and don't feel they are guilty by association.
In your bubble probably.
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