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Old 09-29-2009, 08:43 PM   #101
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Isn't this the same guy whose wife was murdered by the Manson Family while she was pregnant?
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I say she looked 25 and he just had really bad luck. The law is the law however and we can't just let someone go off free because the girl looked older. There is a legal age for sex and that's just how it goes.
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this is still goin? LOL ill help...

I think if *she looked 25* Polanski wouldnt have hit it ;)
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Most of you completely missed the point here. Roman Polanski has been to Switzerland many times in the last 30 years with no problems. So why now?
Previous trips into Switserland were all done quick and dirty.
This time, they knew when he was arriving and got his schedule. So they knew where he was. Previous visits they just couldnt get him.
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I think if *she looked 25* Polanski wouldnt have hit it ;)
Plus, if she was 25 and she needed her mom's permission for a photo shoot then there were probably other issues surrounding special needs sex.
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Isn't this the same guy whose wife was murdered by the Manson Family while she was pregnant?
Yes and most of his family were killed by the Nazis.
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Previous trips into Switserland were all done quick and dirty.
This time, they knew when he was arriving and got his schedule. So they knew where he was. Previous visits they just couldnt get him.
Really? I heard he owns a home there.
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Previous trips into Switserland were all done quick and dirty.
This time, they knew when he was arriving and got his schedule. So they knew where he was. Previous visits they just couldnt get him.
I thought he owned a home there? Also he has been at hundreds of social gatherings with world leaders over the years as well as attending every film festival (like Cannes)

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"After fleeing to Europe following his 1977 U.S. conviction, Polanski continued to direct films, although there was nearly a seven-year break between 1979's Tess (a romantic drama adapted from Thomas Hardy's 1891 novel Tess of the d'Urbervilles, dedicated to the memory of his late wife, Sharon Tate) and 1986's Pirates, an adventure comedy. Later films include Frantic (1988), Death and the Maiden (1994), The Ninth Gate (1999), The Pianist (2002), and Oliver Twist (2005). The most notable of his later films is The Pianist, a World War II-set adaptation of the autobiography of the same name by Jewish-Polish musician Władysław Szpilman, whose experiences have similarities with Polanski's own (Polanski, like Szpilman, escaped the ghetto and the concentration camps, whilst family members did not). The film won three Academy Awards including Best Director (2002), the Cannes Film Festival's Palme d'Or (2002), and seven French Césars including Best Picture and Best Director. He has also done occasional work in theatre."

Looks to me like he's been living freely in the open for over 30 years. Not sure how you go to Switzerland "dirty" to receive a film award at a big show....
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Plus, if she was 25 and she needed her mom's permission for a photo shoot then there were probably other issues surrounding special needs sex.
Yes it is well documented and reported he specifically had to get the girls parents permission for the photo shoot which means he definitely not only KNEW her age, but KNEW she was UNDERAGE.

the guy even plead guilty, any argument is simply semantics from here on out.

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Looking at news, this is everywhere... reading this article on it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...4549479.column

Polanski's defenders lose sight of the true victim

Q: Did you resist at that time?

A: A little bit, but not really because . . .

Q: Because what?

A: Because I was afraid of him.

That's Roman Polanski's 13-year-old victim testifying before a grand jury about how the famous director forced himself on her at Jack Nicholson's Mulholland Drive home in March of 1977.
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from her testimony she admitted he gave her alcohol and qualudes LOL

sorry, but a 13 year old girl on alcohol and pills is not consenting LOL

Quoting again from the grand jury transcript, with the girl being questioned by a prosecutor:

Q: Did you take your shirt off or did Mr. Polanski?

A: No, I did.

Q: Was that at his request or did you volunteer to do that?

A: That was at his request.

She said Polanski later went into the bathroom and took part of a Quaalude pill and offered her some, as well, and she accepted.

Q: Why did you take it?

A: I don't know. I think I must have been pretty drunk or else I wouldn't have.
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Q: When you got in the Jacuzzi, what were you wearing?

A: I was going to wear my underwear, but he said for me to take them off.

She says Polanski went back in the house and returned in the nude and got into the Jacuzzi with her. When he told her to move closer to him, she resisted, saying, "No. No, I got to get out."

He insisted, she testified, and so she moved closer and he put his hands around her waist. She told him she had asthma and wanted to get out, and she did. She said he followed her into the bathroom, where she told him, "I have to go home now."

Q: What did Mr. Polanski say?

A: He told me to go in the other room and lie down.

She testified that she was afraid and sat on the couch in the bedroom.

Q: What were you afraid of?

A: Him.

She testified that Polanski sat down next to her and said she'd feel better. She repeated that she had to go home.
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Plus the argument of her not wanting the case pushed doesn't work for me. So, you have priests that raped kids decades ago run and hide. They drag things on for ages until the victims are grown and tired of talking about it and throw their hands up in frustration and say to have any case dropped. Isn't that more victimization from the abuser?

You also have to love adults saying that if a 13 year old has had sex before it is okay for you to sleep with them as an adult.
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Looking at news, this is everywhere... reading this article on it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...4549479.column

Polanski's defenders lose sight of the true victim

Q: Did you resist at that time?

A: A little bit, but not really because . . .

Q: Because what?

A: Because I was afraid of him.

That's Roman Polanski's 13-year-old victim testifying before a grand jury about how the famous director forced himself on her at Jack Nicholson's Mulholland Drive home in March of 1977.
Of course she didn't bring up the fact she fucked DOZENS of other older men before. So please. She lied because she didn't want to look like the whore she was.
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Of course she didn't bring up the fact she fucked DOZENS of other older men before. So please. She lied because she didn't want to look like the whore she was.
Why would it be okay for an adult to sleep with a child regardless of how many other men had abused her before you?
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Plus the argument of her not wanting the case pushed doesn't work for me. So, you have priests that raped kids decades ago run and hide. They drag things on for ages until the victims are grown and tired of talking about it and throw their hands up in frustration and say to have any case dropped. Isn't that more victimization from the abuser?

You also have to love adults saying that if a 13 year old has had sex before it is okay for you to sleep with them as an adult.
like gatorB above? LOL just ignore them

they will say whatever they can to justify his actions...
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dont bother, gatorb is against pedos, until it comes to Polanski lol

"she was a whore" when used to describe a rape victim is done by only those with little to no compassion for the true victim.

she was 13, given alcohol and pills. In addition, Polanski admitted to the judge he knew she was 13.

So this argument really is just semantics, he PLEAD GUILTY. Who in their right mind would try and say he is innocent when he already plead guilty? LOL

And this "she fucked dozens" is bullshit, according to court case/articles, she admitted to having sex with HER BOYFRIEND of similar age, but not dozens of men LOL this is reaching and with no proof.
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dont bother, gatorb is against pedos, until it comes to Polanski lol

"she was a whore" when used to describe a rape victim is done by only those with little to no compassion for the true victim.

she was 13, given alcohol and pills. In addition, Polanski admitted to the judge he knew she was 13.

So this argument really is just semantics, he PLEAD GUILTY. Who in their right mind would try and say he is innocent when he already plead guilty? LOL
Dude, seriously, I feel myself becoming more angry about 'female' issues every day. That wasn't there in me until recently. Getting old, I guess.
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Plus the argument of her not wanting the case pushed doesn't work for me. So, you have priests that raped kids decades ago run and hide. They drag things on for ages until the victims are grown and tired of talking about it and throw their hands up in frustration and say to have any case dropped. Isn't that more victimization from the abuser?
I think that's projecting, that's not what happened here at all. The girl wants the charges dropped not because Polanski or his attys have drug this out over years, she wants it dropped because in her opinion he has payed his dues. He served time in jail and he cut her a pretty nice check, she got what she wanted.

She's actively participated in interviews and events advocating Polanski and patitioned the court on her own to drop the charges years before his recent arrest.

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You also have to love adults saying that if a 13 year old has had sex before it is okay for you to sleep with them as an adult.
I never said it was ok, even under the circumstances I don't think it was ok. I do think though that what happed in actuallity is much different than what is being run in the media right now and I do feel that given the circumstances Polanski has paid his debt to society.
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Dude, seriously, I feel myself becoming more angry about 'female' issues every day. That wasn't there in me until recently. Getting old, I guess.
well in this case, Polanski fled, doesnt matter how long ago. He fled, he plead guilty. he has to still stand before a judge.

The case is The State of California vs Polanski, it has nothing to do with vistim anymore.

Facts are clear, he plead guilty to unlawful sexual intercourse then fled before being setenced.

In America, you aint free to leave until you stand before judge and he says you are.

This lady wrote good article on it: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=a.taLKe6SQXU
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see but thats the thing, in America you arent done until you stand before judge. he skipped that part. he has NOT paid his debt, because he was never sentenced LOL

He fled before being given the chance to pay his debt to society
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yeah he's been on the lamb for days... dudes goin to the pen. sucks. but hey, 13 years old??? come on man..
On the lam. Not lamb. ;)
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Most of you completely missed the point here. Roman Polanski has been to Switzerland many times in the last 30 years with no problems. So why now? The US has been putting a lot of pressure on the Swiss for banking records. Diplomacy means nothing without leverage.
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I think that's projecting, that's not what happened here at all. The girl wants the charges dropped not because Polanski or his attys have drug this out over years, she wants it dropped because in her opinion he has payed his dues. He served time in jail and he cut her a pretty nice check, she got what she wanted.

She's actively participated in interviews and events advocating Polanski and patitioned the court on her own to drop the charges years before his recent arrest.



I never said it was ok, even under the circumstances I don't think it was ok. I do think though that what happed in actuallity is much different than what is being run in the media right now and I do feel that given the circumstances Polanski has paid his debt to society.
You say projecting..I say setting precedent
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You say projecting..I say setting precedent
What?

I don't understand that response at all
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see but thats the thing, in America you arent done until you stand before judge. he skipped that part. he has NOT paid his debt, because he was never sentenced LOL

He fled before being given the chance to pay his debt to society
He served the term as outlined in his original plea bargain and he paid the victim an undisclosed settlement / restitution (which was probably the motivation behind the entire debacle). Personally I think one major fuck up in this case came by paying the time before the judge signed off on the sentencing. Who willingly submits themselves to serving time in prison? Putting the cart before the horse.
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What?

I don't understand that response at all
If you let one guy off from committing a crime like this because the victim says she wants charges dropped, then you have to let that happen in all further cases. All anybody then needs to do is pressure the victim. Some crimes go beyond if the victims wants charges or not and child abuse is one of those. Otherwise, you have families where there is incest abuse going on never facing the music - just to mention one possible area.
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Who willingly submits themselves to serving time in prison?
Thats how the system works for those who plead guilty to a crime though.
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Of course she didn't bring up the fact she fucked DOZENS of other older men before. So please. She lied because she didn't want to look like the whore she was.
If she was molested dozens of times before she was molested by Polanski then that is even more of tragedy and she is even more of a victim. I cannot understand how someone can call a 13 year old girl who has been molested a "whore".
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If anyone has Netflix they can watch a detailed documentary about Polanski called:

Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired

It is a well done doc and gives a lot of details about his case including interviews with the victim.
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Nobody has yet answered the only question I have regarding this case, which is, Why now? He has not lived in solitude or in hiding, he has traveled extensively, he has worked publicly. Why now? This was not his first trip to Switzerland. He was going to recieve an award, obviously it was well known he would be there. He went knowing all this. Why now?
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:49 AM   #135
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The double standard is total BS. In the end he had sex with a 13 year old. Forced or not, personal tragedies placed aside, burn the Mother Fuc**r!!!
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:00 AM   #136
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Why now?
This woman says it best.

"The statute of limitations for rape does not toll simply because 31 years has passed."
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Old 09-30-2009, 10:02 AM   #137
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The double standard is total BS. In the end he had sex with a 13 year old. Forced or not, personal tragedies placed aside, burn the Mother Fuc**r!!!
its not called "having sex" in court ;)

its called rape. which is what he did.

Lawyers always say these things better than I can:

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“A male is guilty of rape in the second degree when, being eighteen years old or more, he engages in sexual intercourse with a female less than fifteen years old. Rape in the second degree is a class D felony.”

That is the current law in New York. When I was prosecuting these cases in Queens in the 70’s the law required that the child be less than 14. The legislature tightened it. But there is no doubt that California had the same protections for children when Polanski was prosecuted in California for having intercourse with a 13-year-old girl. It still does.

This is the definition of statutory rape. Notice, it doesn’t talk about force and it doesn’t talk about consent. Neither are needed. The statute is meant to protect children. A 13-year-old can’t consent to intercourse with a man over 18, and certainly not with a man in his 30’s.
that about says it all...

http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.c...lanski-uproar/
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Nobody has yet answered the only question I have regarding this case, which is, Why now? He has not lived in solitude or in hiding, he has traveled extensively, he has worked publicly. Why now? This was not his first trip to Switzerland. He was going to recieve an award, obviously it was well known he would be there. He went knowing all this. Why now?
Who cares? He jumped bail. That means he is permanently on the run from the law until he dies or surrenders or is caught.
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Nobody has yet answered the only question I have regarding this case, which is, Why now? He has not lived in solitude or in hiding, he has traveled extensively, he has worked publicly. Why now? This was not his first trip to Switzerland. He was going to recieve an award, obviously it was well known he would be there. He went knowing all this. Why now?
Personally, I think it's probably a peace offering from the swiss because of all the shit going on right now with swiss banking, etc. Switzerland has long been famous for being a safe harbor for many types of activities and the new US administration is really trying to crack down on all the untaxed funds US citizens are storing there. I know people who are pulling huge amounts of cash out of the Swiss banking system because of this, so I imagine the hurt is huge.
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