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Old 10-26-2009, 01:40 PM   #1
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ccbill sales?

My ccbill sales have never been lower? Same sites, same traffic, same SE keywords...any reason for this other than fucking tubes or people just are not buying porn anymore?
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:00 PM   #2
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Same here.

Yet my Verotel, and Zombaio sales do not follow the same patterns on initial sign ups, nor rebills. That said, CCB claims a lot of the issues are at the scrubbing level, and the card holders bank (i.e. economy).

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Old 10-26-2009, 02:03 PM   #3
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My sales are up. If you have noticed a decline, maybe its that lots of people are opening websites, blogs, TGPs, tubes, the whole lot. How many restaurants are closing in lots of towns these days.
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:39 PM   #4
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Worst month of CCBill sales for 10 years. I just can't believe how poor they are this October. Not saying it's CCBill's fault, it's not I know, but it's slow all the same. I even had some fucker charge back a $1.98 trial. How cheap is that?
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:43 PM   #5
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I just don't understand, clicks, traffic, se keyword placement all the same...wtf?
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Old 10-26-2009, 02:46 PM   #6
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Decline decline decline.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:37 PM   #7
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CCbill is really slow this month.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:00 PM   #8
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Probably because less people are buying porn, since they can get it for free. At tube sites, and other free sites.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:45 PM   #9
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Probably because less people are buying porn, since they can get it for free. At tube sites, and other free sites.
Yeah, sales change from one month to another because of tubes which are around for years.
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Old 10-26-2009, 04:50 PM   #10
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super good month, but we released zipsets to help boost sales
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:00 PM   #11
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Your sales are down and are going to stay down for the simple reason that people WON'T BUY something that they can get for free..

You want your favorite PORN MOVIE? Just type the name on google and add the word "TORRENT" in the end.

For example you want the best seller, "Cytherea iz Squirtwoman"? Just type "Cytherea iz Squirtwoman torrent" in google and you will come up with the FREE DVD.

Easy as that. The same goes for most porn movies, or hollywood movies, Software, scripts, ETC ETC ETC.

Now, Why would someone buy something that they can get for free?

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Old 10-26-2009, 05:05 PM   #12
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Also, the average surfer is getting more and more intelligent and smart. You WON'T see the recurring level of 2004, because they join and cancel the rebill right away. The surfer of 2009 is not easy to fool.

Some people switched over to cams+dating, However once most surfers realize that 90% of profiles in dating sites are FAKE, they won't come back. Tubes have 2009 and part of 2010 to live off fooling some people with their dating + cams sales. However I want to see what's going to happen when that stuff stops selling, because surfers will learn the truth about it. I want to see who are u going to fool then, to make some cash.
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Old 10-26-2009, 05:40 PM   #13
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Wow, I never paid much attention to it but my declines are way up too - 76 denials ($3758.95) in the past 30 days..!!
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Old 10-26-2009, 06:29 PM   #14
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Wow, I never paid much attention to it but my declines are way up too - 76 denials ($3758.95) in the past 30 days..!!
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Old 10-26-2009, 07:49 PM   #15
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Your sales are down and are going to stay down for the simple reason that people WON'T BUY something that they can get for free..

You want your favorite PORN MOVIE? Just type the name on google and add the word "TORRENT" in the end.

For example you want the best seller, "Cytherea iz Squirtwoman"? Just type "Cytherea iz Squirtwoman torrent" in google and you will come up with the FREE DVD.

Easy as that. The same goes for most porn movies, or hollywood movies, Software, scripts, ETC ETC ETC.

Now, Why would someone buy something that they can get for free?
You forgot something. You want your favorite hollywood movie? Even before the DVD release? Just type the movie name along with rapidshare.com to google and there you go.

And you are right, DVD sales are $0 for this year. Why would people buy them, right?
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Old 10-26-2009, 08:07 PM   #16
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my ccbill sales have been way down here also
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:31 PM   #17
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My ccbill sales are Shameful this month. Never thought they will go down this much.
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:39 PM   #18
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Yup CCbill conversions are horrible! My nats powered programs with ccbill is even worse. One of my programs that has cascade billing has 100% EPOCH sign-ups this month, vs usually a 65epoch/35ccbill split.

Oh well what are you gonna do..I'm kinda glad sales have been terrible this month, it drove me to start pushing more mainstream programs and it's doing a lot better than I expected.
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Oh well what are you gonna do..I'm kinda glad sales have been terrible this month, it drove me to start pushing more mainstream programs and it's doing a lot better than I expected.
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Also, the average surfer is getting more and more intelligent and smart. You WON'T see the recurring level of 2004, because they join and cancel the rebill right away. The surfer of 2009 is not easy to fool.

Some people switched over to cams+dating, However once most surfers realize that 90% of profiles in dating sites are FAKE, they won't come back. Tubes have 2009 and part of 2010 to live off fooling some people with their dating + cams sales. However I want to see what's going to happen when that stuff stops selling, because surfers will learn the truth about it. I want to see who are u going to fool then, to make some cash.
surfer is certainly a different person from years before
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Mine were down but the last week has been going upwards!
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