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Old 11-05-2009, 01:34 PM   #1
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Shooting at Fort Hood

hearing 7 people shot dead and more wounded by guys in uniform ..possibly 3 shooters two on loose.
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Soldiers killing soldiers... Damn!
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Where did you read that?
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Where did you read that?
On CNN they were saying that it's likely it was soldiers.
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7 dead, 15 wounded so far.
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On CNN they were saying that it's likely it was soldiers.
So you are speculating.
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shootings in separate locations..even if they are soldiers it is still more than just a random guy gone nuts
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So you are speculating.
They said it happened around the soldier processing center. They allow non-military personnel in those areas?
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They said it happened around the soldier processing center. They allow non-military personnel in those areas?
Apparently there was/is some sort of graduation going on today that allowed more civilians on the base than normal. Who knows at this stage though.
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fucking waco.

i swear to god they've got some fucked up shit in the water there.
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News reports saying the gunman were wearing military uniforms. My sister-in-law is stationed there and we heard from her and she said the base was locked down tight. Supposedly 500 troops doing a sweep of the base.

On a side note... if this turns out to be terrorist related it will be pretty weird considering Sarah is the person who posted the first 9/11 thread.
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Someone just quoted an official as saying it was "an army major with an arabic sounding name".

Hard to believe thats a quote from anyone "official".. but there you have it.
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News reports saying the gunman were wearing military uniforms. My sister-in-law is stationed there and we heard from her and she said the base was locked down tight. Supposedly 500 troops doing a sweep of the base.

On a side note... if this turns out to be terrorist related it will be pretty weird considering Sarah is the person who posted the first 9/11 thread.
Oh weird but true..didn't think about that.

Though, I am not doing the 'it is terrorism thing' on this.

On my own side note...I had no idea that so many people were based there.
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On a side note... if this turns out to be terrorist related it will be pretty weird considering Sarah is the person who posted the first 9/11 thread.

Anyone have that thread? would like to take a look
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So you are speculating.
Now it's been confirmed by CNN that they in fact were soldiers. So no, I wasn't speculating. It's called 'instinct'.
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Major Malik Nadal Hasan.... a major at that... wow. Just wow.
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http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=38959
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Major Malik Nadal Hasan.... a major at that... wow. Just wow.
Yeah not some nut case 18 year old coming back from hell.
That surprised me as well.
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Major Malik Nadal Hasan.... a major at that... wow. Just wow.
Sounds like a local boy.
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Sounds like a local boy.
Not really rumor is that he is from Virginia
And a recent convert.
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Can't you people see what Obama is turning this country into? OPEN YOUR EYES!

These soldiers are being driven mad by the threat of socialism!
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Military people...what is the difference between a base and a post?
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Military people...what is the difference between a base and a post?


On a serious note, what a terrible tragedy...

My condolences to the families of those killed and wounded - CNN is reporting 12 dead (including one civilian police officer), and over 30 wounded.

In addition to the shooter that was killed, Major Hasan, apparently two other soldiers were taken into custody as suspects.

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It essentially means the same thing. Fort Hood is a very large army base about an hour up the road from Austin. The infantry divisions that have deployed through Iraq have been from Fort Hood. The city adjacent to the base is Killeen, which is essentially an army town. It is a giant facility with tens of thousands of military personal and civilians. Many soldiers who are posted at Fort Hood go through basic training there, etc. There's elementary, junior high and high schools on the base, for the kids of the military families.

All of the wounded are being helicoptered over to Scott & White Hospital which is a big private hospital over in Temple.

I have a friend who was supposed to be deployed back to Iraq several months from now. I hope that this guy didn't murder him.

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It essentially means the same thing. Fort Hood is a very large army base about an hour up the road from Austin. The infantry divisions that have deployed through Iraq have been from Fort Hood. The city adjacent to the base is Killeen, which is essentially an army town. It is a giant facility with tens of thousands of military personal and civilians. Many soldiers who are posted at Fort Hood go through basic training there, etc. There's elementary, junior high and high schools on the base, for the kids of the military families.

All of the wounded are being helicoptered over to Scott & White Hospital which is a big private hospital over in Temple.

I have a friend who was supposed to be deployed back to Iraq several months from now. I hope that this guy didn't murder him.

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So it is just a different word for the same thing? I ask because the news at one point was calling it a base and then the person doing the broadcast commented that it was a post and that the military can be picky about the terms, Since then it has been a post.

My cousin's husband apparently was there not too long ago but has now moved onto somewhere in Colorado..or so we think. Hope so.
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Now it's been confirmed by CNN that they in fact were soldiers. So no, I wasn't speculating. It's called 'instinct'.
I wouldn't say instinct. I'd say logic.

When most people go on shooting rampages they are jacked on adrenaline and unprepared for the mayhem, which is why body counts are typically so low.

A dozen killed and 3 dozen wounded means the shooters knew what they were doing.

Like soldiers.

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It feels odd that one person could kill shoot so many shots in multiple locations on a military base without being taken down a lot earlier.
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Generally, the difference between the two refers to infrastructure and permanence at the time the base was established.

BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) has changed the way our military bases are set up, so the names "Camp" and "Fort" have lost some of their original meaning. A Fort was a fortified, larger, and more permanent base. And, a Camp was smaller, with more flexibility. Originally, Fort Benning was Camp Benning... fyi.

Branch vernacular determines the usual name for a duty station too: the Air Force calls it a base; the Army a post. But, I've heard Army personnel refer to "living on base."

Yet another example of the subtleties in our language.

Fort - permant location usually found in the states.
Base - Navy and Marines.
Camp - temp or abroad location.
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Its on the BBC front page now http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8345713.stm

It does seem pretty strange how he managed to shoot so many people before being stopped
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Whats so odd about that? It was obviously a muslim soldier who went on a killing rampage who can do some amazing things such as get off hundreds of rounds and be in multiple places at one time without being killed. He must have had training from Neo. Al-CIAduh is coming to the homeland. Lock your doors ad hide your kids. The military will need to crack down.
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fucking waco.

i swear to god they've got some fucked up shit in the water there.
I can't disagree with you, but Ft Hood is not in Waco.
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There are reports that Major Hasan was a Army Psychiatrist, who treated soldiers with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, and that he was a recent convert to Islam, apparently facing deployment to Iraq.

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Damn sand nigs, take em out boys. Show em America doesn't fuck around.
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Yeah, fuck those sand nigs. I'm with you. Nuke all of Texas -- let Allah sort 'em out.
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Yeah, fuck those sand nigs. I'm with you. Nuke all of Texas -- let Allah sort 'em out.
YEAH, FUCK TEXAS!!!

While we're at it, let's nuke New Jersey too!
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Yeah fuck it lets nuke Porstmouth too.. its full of scummers
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Then we'll take out Canada, fuck them, eh?!
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Here ya go folks. Dust hasn't even settled and plans are in motion. At least after 9-11 they waited a day to enact the plans they had ready and waiting months before. I guess now those 400k pre-ordered soldiers will come in handy to go after these homegrown terrorists.

Nov 05, 2009
Counter-terror plans will be revised to reflect Fort Hood and Afghan attacks


A soldier turning on his comrades at Fort Hood, an Afghan policeman killing the British soldiers who trained him - two uncannily similar events in two days, but incidents which, across the Western world, security authorities have been planning for and dreading.

Since the Mumbai attacks counter-terrorism planning has seen a major shift. Those charged with thwarting or reacting to future terror attacks were alarmed by Mumbai. The shootings in Afghanistan and Fort Hood carry echoes of the attacks in India with the added danger that the enemy has come from within.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/crime...-attacks-.html
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It doesn't really seem unreasonable to me that he was able to kill and injure that many before being taken out.. It's a training facility that means the only guns are the ones on the ranges or that aren't functioning for marching and formation training. And if it's true it was some graduation ceremony then all the more "open targets"
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Whats so odd about that? It was obviously a muslim soldier who went on a killing rampage who can do some amazing things such as get off hundreds of rounds and be in multiple places at one time without being killed. He must have had training from Neo. Al-CIAduh is coming to the homeland. Lock your doors ad hide your kids. The military will need to crack down.
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Here ya go folks. Dust hasn't even settled and plans are in motion. At least after 9-11 they waited a day to enact the plans they had ready and waiting months before. I guess now those 400k pre-ordered soldiers will come in handy to go after these homegrown terrorists.

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Counter-terror plans will be revised to reflect Fort Hood and Afghan attacks


A soldier turning on his comrades at Fort Hood, an Afghan policeman killing the British soldiers who trained him - two uncannily similar events in two days, but incidents which, across the Western world, security authorities have been planning for and dreading.

Since the Mumbai attacks counter-terrorism planning has seen a major shift. Those charged with thwarting or reacting to future terror attacks were alarmed by Mumbai. The shootings in Afghanistan and Fort Hood carry echoes of the attacks in India with the added danger that the enemy has come from within.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/crime...-attacks-.html
Is it absolutely necessary for you to always be spreading you poisonous lunacy? Cant you keep your rancid fever dreams in your own damaged brain and stop trying to infect the rest of us with whatever is wrong with you?
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Is it absolutely necessary for you to always be spreading you poisonous lunacy? Cant you keep your rancid fever dreams in your own damaged brain and stop trying to infect the rest of us with whatever is wrong with you?
I do realize it's difficult to have any critical thinking skills but can you at least try?
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These soldiers are being driven mad by the threat of socialism!
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:20 PM   #48
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:22 PM   #49
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Well, you would THINK that with all those GUNS around, someone would have SHOT that/those motherfucker(s), right? C'mon gun advocates, ain't you the ones always sayin': "Oh, if EV-ER-Y-WON was armed & dangerous there would be no more shootings"?

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Old 11-05-2009, 07:23 PM   #50
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