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Old 11-12-2009, 03:55 PM   #1
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And the best converting dating sites are.......

Thought I would post my November stats for dating sites from my new cobrand system. The below is what each dating site is earning me per new member on my cobrand.

Amateur Matches.......... $0.4884 PPS
Naughty Connect.......... $0.4258 PPS
Ulust.......... $0.3287 PPS
Sex In Your City.......... $0.1972 PPS
Real Sex Dates.......... $0.1565 PPS
Discreet Sex Dates.......... $0.1565 PPS
Horny Matches.......... $0.1345 Revshare
Adult Friend Finder.......... $0.1130 NO API posting
XXX Black Book.......... $0.1096 Shit canned my account LOL
Get It On.......... $0.0561 NO API posting
Rudester.......... $0.0475 Revshare Just started with them
Fling.......... $0.0344 PPS

The above is based on 1597 new free members on my cobrand from the US,Canada,UK and Australia. Total earnings is like $2.25 per new free member. I guestimate that each free member cost me $1 each to acquire so I'm at over 100% profit margin. My goal is $4 per member and i feel this is very realistic. These stats are NOT per member I apied or sent to these dating sites, it is per new member on my free dating site profit from each dating site.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:05 PM   #2
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Real cool to see ulust in there choker ;-) Have you tried Lonelyifehookup.com yet?
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:12 PM   #3
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:26 PM   #4
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Real cool to see ulust in there choker ;-) Have you tried Lonelyifehookup.com yet?
Yep we are trying them now I didnt post results as i have not sent enough there yet to tell what is what. But yeah ulust is jamming for me
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interesting facts. Thanks for sharing
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:44 PM   #7
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interesting facts. Thanks for sharing
Your welcome. One of the biggest factors I have found is that many dating sites welcome emails to new members are tagged as spam by the major free email services. This factor alone can make or break a dating sites confirm rates and thus thier upgrades.
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ive never done the pay per free, i have always stuck with pps
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Old 11-12-2009, 05:55 PM   #10
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ive never done the pay per free, i have always stuck with pps
These are all PPS except ones that say revshare
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:01 PM   #11
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Interesting numbers, had to read your first line twice before i understood how to read them though
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Do all dating sites use fake pictures of women to bring in sales & surfers?
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Interesting numbers, had to read your first line twice before i understood how to read them though
Yeah but this is the best indicater to me of how well each upselling dating site is doing over all. And this gives me a accurate profit per free member on my site.
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Do all dating sites use fake pictures of women to bring in sales & surfers?
I don't know, probably. Use real members pics to advertise a dating site, think that would piss off real members real fast? How would you feel if your sister joined a dating site and you were surfing porn sites one day and say a fake msn messenger add with her picture in it. Damned if you use fake pics to advertise, damned if you use real members pics to advertise them.
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Thank you for posting your data Choker, most interesting. A lot of shite performing programs as well on the lower end of your list.

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i was wondering the same thing...
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I don't know, probably. Use real members pics to advertise a dating site, think that would piss off real members real fast? How would you feel if your sister joined a dating site and you were surfing porn sites one day and say a fake msn messenger add with her picture in it. Damned if you use fake pics to advertise, damned if you use real members pics to advertise them.
Im talking about models being shown to be in your area. This is false advertising.
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Im talking about models being shown to be in your area. This is false advertising.
I guess its no different than a porn site saying they find girls to fuck at parties, on the streets, etc etc when in fact they are using paid models. Guess that would be false advertising too wouldn't it?

Are you asking me questions about other guys dating sites to get more views of your sig or are you just being a surfer?
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Choker,

Did each one of the dating sites get the same amount of profiles? Because the numbers will totally not make any sense if they did not unless you break down each one and calculate based on a per program / per profile basis. Also depends on the order each one is listed on your site. Is AmateruMatch number one on the list?

Just curious, but overall in the end, the money that is earned matters the most.
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Did each one of the dating sites get the same amount of profiles? Because the numbers will totally not make any sense if they did not unless you break down each one and calculate based on a per program / per profile basis. Also depends on the order each one is listed on your site. Is AmateruMatch number one on the list?

Just curious, but overall in the end, the money that is earned matters the most.
At the beginning of the month all stats were reset and they were shown at random so whoever got sales moved up on the sites so yeah the better a site does the better it does. As far as same number of profiles well pretty much yes, i will keep this updated as the month goes along, all in all i think this is a pretty fair comparison except with like rudester who i just started promoting, and hornymatches as it is revenue not pps. But yeah in the end all that matters is how much each program is making me.

My model is very different than others, what matters to me is how much each free member on my site is making me at each dating site.
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I guess its no different than a porn site saying they find girls to fuck at parties, on the streets, etc etc when in fact they are using paid models. Guess that would be false advertising too wouldn't it?

Are you asking me questions about other guys dating sites to get more views of your sig or are you just being a surfer?
We advertise our girls fuck at parties & they do. Our parties included real guys from anywhere in the uk that want to party with our girls live in camshows & filmed for our members to watch time & time again.

I think its rude to falsely sell a dating site. On some websites, there is a box that you tick to say whether they can use the pictures in there advertising.

I seriously dont think pictures of models that half the time are stolen from adult pay site galleries should be used on banners with text stating that this girl is in your area.

Maybe, Meet girls like this in your area. But literally absolute bullshit is bad.
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One other question for you, do you think having more dating programs will eventually maximize revenue?
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We advertise our girls fuck at parties & they do. Our parties included real guys from anywhere in the uk that want to party with our girls live in camshows & filmed for our members to watch time & time again.

I think its rude to falsely sell a dating site. On some websites, there is a box that you tick to say whether they can use the pictures in there advertising.

I seriously dont think pictures of models that half the time are stolen from adult pay site galleries should be used on banners with text stating that this girl is in your area.

Maybe, Meet girls like this in your area. But literally absolute bullshit is bad.
I agree with you ArsewithClass, it is sad that complete dishonesty has somehow become accepted in some circles
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and sorry, choker, this is kind of off topic for your thread, carry on
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We advertise our girls fuck at parties & they do. Our parties included real guys from anywhere in the uk that want to party with our girls live in camshows & filmed for our members to watch time & time again.

I think its rude to falsely sell a dating site. On some websites, there is a box that you tick to say whether they can use the pictures in there advertising.

I seriously dont think pictures of models that half the time are stolen from adult pay site galleries should be used on banners with text stating that this girl is in your area.

Maybe, Meet girls like this in your area. But literally absolute bullshit is bad.
Take your concerns up with the dating sites in question not me. I have nothing to do with how other dating sites advertise. Don't turn my thread into a moral thread about how dating sites choose to advertise thier product. If I were to not do business with people who's morals I question at times I would be bagging groceries at Winn-Dixie. I learned a long time ago to not push my morals on other people. If a 7-11 clerk gave me $5 too much back in change I would and have many fucking times given it back. Now if I were to only do business with people with morals as high as that I wouldn't have anyone to do business with.
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One other question for you, do you think having more dating programs will eventually maximize revenue?
NO, I think 10 is the maximum simply because too many dating sites are selling thier members info to spammers. So if you can't get a welcome email in within 10 days of signup forget about it. After ten days that members email box is full of spam. I do think adding more niche dating sites will maximize revenue. Niche dating sites are getting better and better.
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My model is very different than others, what matters to me is how much each free member on my site is making me at each dating site.
Appologies for trolling your thread. I meant no harm, just posting my views on dating sites due to what I have noticed.

None of what I said previously should affect any surfers judgement over a dating site as obviously the sites are still packed with lots of guys & girls.

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Please do Choker. Oh, Im glad that your sales are working well & all the best with those sites!
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If a 7-11 clerk gave me $5 too much back in change I would and have many fucking times given it back.
Your a decent guy. You have my appologies.
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Your a decent guy. You have my appologies.
No worries, I agree with you it is a shame we have to do what we have to do to make a living. If you had to approve male members profiles and see how stupid guys are in general, you would'nt care. I mean 90% of these guys are so stupid they will never get laid with a dating site or not. Dating sites are entertainment for people, we are selling entertainment. 90% of the members on a dating site don't have the balls to actually meet a girl anyway.
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No worries, I agree with you it is a shame we have to do what we have to do to make a living. If you had to approve male members profiles and see how stupid guys are in general, you would'nt care. I mean 90% of these guys are so stupid they will never get laid with a dating site or not. Dating sites are entertainment for people, we are selling entertainment. 90% of the members on a dating site don't have the balls to actually meet a girl anyway.
Selling entertainment, that works.
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NO, I think 10 is the maximum simply because too many dating sites are selling thier members info to spammers. So if you can't get a welcome email in within 10 days of signup forget about it. After ten days that members email box is full of spam. I do think adding more niche dating sites will maximize revenue. Niche dating sites are getting better and better.
choker are you api posting to these 10 sites off the same free join? and the surfer gets 1 email per day from each over the following 10days?
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No worries, I agree with you it is a shame we have to do what we have to do to make a living. If you had to approve male members profiles and see how stupid guys are in general, you would'nt care. I mean 90% of these guys are so stupid they will never get laid with a dating site or not. Dating sites are entertainment for people, we are selling entertainment. 90% of the members on a dating site don't have the balls to actually meet a girl anyway.
I got flamed the last time I posted this on GFY...

Dating sites are no different than paysites, it's just a slightly different fantasy. Guys don't sign up to meet girls, they sign up because they get excited at the idea of it.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:11 AM   #39
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thanks for the info. We do ok with the blackcrush.com "dating" site. Get good convertsions anyway.
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:41 AM   #40
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This is very interesting. I haven't tried the top 2 sites on your list!
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Old 11-13-2009, 06:54 AM   #41
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Your welcome. One of the biggest factors I have found is that many dating sites welcome emails to new members are tagged as spam by the major free email services. This factor alone can make or break a dating sites confirm rates and thus thier upgrades.
This is 100% true.

Very cool to see NaughtyConnect coming in at #2.

I love Choker updates, thanks for posting
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:21 AM   #42
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Choker, we where the nets best kept secret until now.. what are you doing to me?
uh-oh
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:10 AM   #43
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choker are you api posting to these 10 sites off the same free join? and the surfer gets 1 email per day from each over the following 10days?
Much more involved than just doing this but yes this is one of the things I do
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Hey Choker,

We have some amazing new tools for sexinyourcity.com in beta.
Hit me up so I can get you in on them
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:19 AM   #45
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Choker, we where the nets best kept secret until now.. what are you doing to me?
LOL, I should have posted my webmaster refer url.
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Old 11-13-2009, 08:56 AM   #46
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Good stuff Choker, I'm glad to be part of your new system. As stated, your Revshare stats with us will only grow and we will creep up as one of your top earners. I know you have some even bigger things coming with this, and I look forward to sending you much more money!
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:12 AM   #47
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No one posted the URL yet?

http://bigfreedates.com/

Don't hate on me... this was e-mail blasted earlier this evening...
LOL, don't hate on me man i send out maybe 1 email a week. At this point I'm still gonna make cobrands for guys who want them but I'm not gonna push it. I'd rather have this system to myself so maybe I'll make a affiliate system or something. IDK yet
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:32 AM   #48
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I just added lonelywifecash so far $0.0629 will take a couple weeks to catch up and show true earnings.
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Thought I would post my November stats for dating sites from my new cobrand system. The below is what each dating site is earning me per new member on my cobrand.

Amateur Matches.......... $0.4884 PPS
Naughty Connect.......... $0.4258 PPS
Ulust.......... $0.3287 PPS
Sex In Your City.......... $0.1972 PPS
Real Sex Dates.......... $0.1565 PPS
Discreet Sex Dates.......... $0.1565 PPS
Horny Matches.......... $0.1345 Revshare
Adult Friend Finder.......... $0.1130 NO API posting
XXX Black Book.......... $0.1096 Shit canned my account LOL
Get It On.......... $0.0561 NO API posting
Rudester.......... $0.0475 Revshare Just started with them
Fling.......... $0.0344 PPS

The above is based on 1597 new free members on my cobrand from the US,Canada,UK and Australia. Total earnings is like $2.25 per new free member. I guestimate that each free member cost me $1 each to acquire so I'm at over 100% profit margin. My goal is $4 per member and i feel this is very realistic. These stats are NOT per member I apied or sent to these dating sites, it is per new member on my free dating site profit from each dating site.
Niceeeeeeee

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Are you posting to an API with these or just sending clicks to a regular tour/landing page?
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