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tonyparra · 11-17-2009, 01:18 PM

With 6 days with absolutely no sales this month where as i used to maybe have 1-3 days period with out any sales in a month. What have i done differently? I added more traffic! From blogs and se while as not changing my previous traffic source. So more traffic= less sales and if you know vod you have to make sales daily in order for it to be profitable. Total sales this month so far 20 with $63 commission. Last month 64 sales previous to that 60 and previous to that 70. Blame the tubes? Time to change websites?

strobi · 11-17-2009, 01:34 PM

Blame the tubes :-)

fris · 11-17-2009, 01:34 PM

bloody tubes!

MetaMan · 11-17-2009, 01:35 PM

you idiots are doing the same shit you have for years then wonder what the problem is?

Bryan G · 11-17-2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra

With 6 days with absolutely no sales this month where as i used to maybe have 1-3 days period with out any sales in a month. What have i done differently? I added more traffic! From blogs and se while as not changing my previous traffic source. So more traffic= less sales and if you know vod you have to make sales daily in order for it to be profitable. Total sales this month so far 20 with $63 commission. Last month 64 sales previous to that 60 and previous to that 70. Blame the tubes? Time to change websites?

Hi Tony

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Nicky · 11-17-2009, 02:44 PM

VOD sales have died on me. even regular paysites sell much better at the moment.

tonyparra · 11-18-2009, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan

you idiots are doing the same shit you have for years then wonder what the problem is?

Thanks for that insight

StariaDaniel · 11-18-2009, 02:31 AM

Maybe you should give www.yoogirls.com a shot - it's not video-on-demand but pay-per-clip. Some of our affiliates have conversions around 1:50 but even the ones at 1:100+ are definately making more than 3,1$/sale :-) Hit me up if you've any questions.

LoveSandra · 11-18-2009, 03:16 AM

everything is fucked up now

FrozenJag · 11-18-2009, 06:40 AM

Adding more traffic and getting worse ratio really isnt all that uncommon from my experience.

Why you ask?

9 times out of 10 the extra quantities of traffic are less targetted and more general traffic.

For example maybe "porn movies" instead of "pay per view porn movies".

You get alot more traffic but your ratio goes up aswell, about the traffic you already had its just a normal dip in sales, you normally wouldnt be worried about it but since you have more traffic you are expecting more sales.

alias · 11-18-2009, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenJag

Adding more traffic and getting worse ratio really isnt all that uncommon from my experience.

Why you ask?

9 times out of 10 the extra quantities of traffic are less targetted and more general traffic.

For example maybe "porn movies" instead of "pay per view porn movies".

You get alot more traffic but your ratio goes up aswell, about the traffic you already had its just a normal dip in sales, you normally wouldnt be worried about it but since you have more traffic you are expecting more sales.

Right on target.

tonyparra · 11-18-2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StariaDaniel

Maybe you should give www.yoogirls.com a shot - it's not video-on-demand but pay-per-clip. Some of our affiliates have conversions around 1:50 but even the ones at 1:100+ are definately making more than 3,1$/sale :-) Hit me up if you've any questions.

ill check it out

tonyparra · 11-18-2009, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrozenJag

Adding more traffic and getting worse ratio really isnt all that uncommon from my experience.

Why you ask?

9 times out of 10 the extra quantities of traffic are less targetted and more general traffic.

For example maybe "porn movies" instead of "pay per view porn movies".

You get alot more traffic but your ratio goes up aswell, about the traffic you already had its just a normal dip in sales, you normally wouldnt be worried about it but since you have more traffic you are expecting more sales.

interesting...but you know i wont settle for that lol

DanielS · 11-18-2009, 10:45 AM

Didn't they turn on the shave button?

katharos · 11-18-2009, 01:22 PM

as guy said, its nothing strange if you added more traffic. if you had only seo traffic and then added some blog or tgp or bought traffic, ratio goes down for sure ...

tonyparra · 11-21-2009, 02:54 PM

wow a few more days without a sale

never ever been this bad with vod even when i had no clue what i was doing.

Penny24Seven · 11-21-2009, 03:01 PM

How can you just look at the last 6 days? I look at month to month changes. To many things can happen in a couple of days. Step back and look at the bigger picture.

The Judge · 11-21-2009, 03:02 PM

here's a tip, go to some of the big cpa networks and see what people are making these days with debt, credit card and insurance offers, then come back and tell us

V_RocKs · 11-21-2009, 03:22 PM

I have a problem where my VOD sponsor doesn't show my clicks... so I am always 0:300 at the end of the week. How do you make 300 sales and no hits?

Ohh... well... just glad to have the sales.

tonyparra · 11-22-2009, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Judge

here's a tip, go to some of the big cpa networks and see what people are making these days with debt, credit card and insurance offers, then come back and tell us

point would be?

tonyparra · 11-22-2009, 03:24 PM

The only reason i really find it weird is that not only are the sales ratios dropping but like an everyday 2 days pattern like someone is turning things on then off...Im done with this sponsor I cant take a whole month of this.

tonyparra · 11-22-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

I have a problem where my VOD sponsor doesn't show my clicks... so I am always 0:300 at the end of the week. How do you make 300 sales and no hits?

Ohh... well... just glad to have the sales.

went from 60-70 vod sales (which is small for vod) to 23 so far no one has contacted from the program doesnt matter to them dont matter to me

rock-reed · 11-22-2009, 03:39 PM

Critical Mass was hit maybe a year ago.

The Paradigm/ Zeitgeist/ Meme of our time is that all porn and digital content (music/tv/movies) should all be and is all free.

Do a google search for sex or porn or ass or whatever and you will see the Tubes/Hubs all come up first.

Why would anyone have to buy porn anymore? Its all easy to find, its all free and its 24/7 - always on. Just like our web. No need to download/save. Just stream it when needed.

The rate at which tubes were adopted amongst college kids (all spreading the word about them) was unbelievable.

And this is not even to mention Torrents... Which are just amazing to find entire site rips in one file.

There is still some money to be made. But it will get harder and harder as more people just download everything for free.

The business treated buyers like dumb ass-hole douchebags in the past... when it was super easy to make money. Now those people are jaded and will not buy again.

Your thoughts?

alias · 11-22-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rock-reed

Critical Mass was hit maybe a year ago.

The Paradigm/ Zeitgeist/ Meme of our time is that all porn and digital content (music/tv/movies) should all be and is all free.

Do a google search for sex or porn or ass or whatever and you will see the Tubes/Hubs all come up first.

Why would anyone have to buy porn anymore? Its all easy to find, its all free and its 24/7 - always on. Just like our web. No need to download/save. Just stream it when needed.

The rate at which tubes were adopted amongst college kids (all spreading the word about them) was unbelievable.

And this is not even to mention Torrents... Which are just amazing to find entire site rips in one file.

There is still some money to be made. But it will get harder and harder as more people just download everything for free.

The business treated buyers like dumb ass-hole douchebags in the past... when it was super easy to make money. Now those people are jaded and will not buy again.

Your thoughts?

You are correct, even small paysites have torrents just days after they are created.

fatfoo · 11-22-2009, 04:55 PM

Jabba the hut is oozing blood,
It's very cold to the point of freezing death.

11-17-2009, 01:18 PM	#1
tonyparra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your back seat with duck tape Posts: 4,568	Was converting under 1:40 for 2 yrs with a vod sponsor...now 1:116 and climbing With 6 days with absolutely no sales this month where as i used to maybe have 1-3 days period with out any sales in a month. What have i done differently? I added more traffic! From blogs and se while as not changing my previous traffic source. So more traffic= less sales and if you know vod you have to make sales daily in order for it to be profitable. Total sales this month so far 20 with $63 commission. Last month 64 sales previous to that 60 and previous to that 70. Blame the tubes? Time to change websites? __________________ High Performance Vps $10 Linode Manage your Digital Ocean, Linode, or Favorite Cloud Server. Simple, fast, and secure Server Pilot

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11-18-2009, 02:31 AM	#8
StariaDaniel Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 415	Maybe you should give www.yoogirls.com a shot - it's not video-on-demand but pay-per-clip. Some of our affiliates have conversions around 1:50 but even the ones at 1:100+ are definately making more than 3,1$/sale :-) Hit me up if you've any questions. __________________ YezzClips.com - Sell your clips and photosets - Promote YezzClips Clipstores and get 20% revshare for life YooGirls.com - Sell your non-nude content - Promote Yoogirls Clipstores and get 20% revshare for life [email protected] • ICQ #464114379

11-21-2009, 02:54 PM	#16
tonyparra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your back seat with duck tape Posts: 4,568	wow a few more days without a sale never ever been this bad with vod even when i had no clue what i was doing. __________________ High Performance Vps $10 Linode Manage your Digital Ocean, Linode, or Favorite Cloud Server. Simple, fast, and secure Server Pilot

11-17-2009, 01:34 PM	#2
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	Blame the tubes :-)

11-17-2009, 01:35 PM	#4
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	you idiots are doing the same shit you have for years then wonder what the problem is?

11-18-2009, 03:16 AM	#9
LoveSandra So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Just Blow Me Posts: 10,551	everything is fucked up now

11-18-2009, 06:40 AM	#10
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	Adding more traffic and getting worse ratio really isnt all that uncommon from my experience. Why you ask? 9 times out of 10 the extra quantities of traffic are less targetted and more general traffic. For example maybe "porn movies" instead of "pay per view porn movies". You get alot more traffic but your ratio goes up aswell, about the traffic you already had its just a normal dip in sales, you normally wouldnt be worried about it but since you have more traffic you are expecting more sales.

11-18-2009, 10:45 AM	#14
DanielS Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 569	Didn't they turn on the shave button?

11-18-2009, 01:22 PM	#15
katharos So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,515	as guy said, its nothing strange if you added more traffic. if you had only seo traffic and then added some blog or tgp or bought traffic, ratio goes down for sure ...

11-21-2009, 03:01 PM	#17
Penny24Seven So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 6,287	How can you just look at the last 6 days? I look at month to month changes. To many things can happen in a couple of days. Step back and look at the bigger picture. __________________ Our site is coming soon. It will be one of the best ever! I know so. Brian and Penny

11-21-2009, 03:02 PM	#18
The Judge Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,647	here's a tip, go to some of the big cpa networks and see what people are making these days with debt, credit card and insurance offers, then come back and tell us __________________

11-21-2009, 03:22 PM	#19
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	I have a problem where my VOD sponsor doesn't show my clicks... so I am always 0:300 at the end of the week. How do you make 300 sales and no hits? Ohh... well... just glad to have the sales.

11-22-2009, 03:24 PM	#21
tonyparra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your back seat with duck tape Posts: 4,568	The only reason i really find it weird is that not only are the sales ratios dropping but like an everyday 2 days pattern like someone is turning things on then off...Im done with this sponsor I cant take a whole month of this. __________________ High Performance Vps $10 Linode Manage your Digital Ocean, Linode, or Favorite Cloud Server. Simple, fast, and secure Server Pilot

11-22-2009, 03:39 PM	#23
rock-reed Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,892	Critical Mass was hit maybe a year ago. The Paradigm/ Zeitgeist/ Meme of our time is that all porn and digital content (music/tv/movies) should all be and is all free. Do a google search for sex or porn or ass or whatever and you will see the Tubes/Hubs all come up first. Why would anyone have to buy porn anymore? Its all easy to find, its all free and its 24/7 - always on. Just like our web. No need to download/save. Just stream it when needed. The rate at which tubes were adopted amongst college kids (all spreading the word about them) was unbelievable. And this is not even to mention Torrents... Which are just amazing to find entire site rips in one file. There is still some money to be made. But it will get harder and harder as more people just download everything for free. The business treated buyers like dumb ass-hole douchebags in the past... when it was super easy to make money. Now those people are jaded and will not buy again. Your thoughts? __________________ --- Ethnic niche? Black-Asian-Latina ? Contact me and lets talk traffic. rockreed@ that thing they call the google mail When you E-mail Me, PLZZZZ make the Subject Title: >>>>>> GFY! So I do not lose you in Spam.

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