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xbizdon · 11-17-2009, 05:07 PM

XBIZ NEWS: House Bill Would Heavily Regulate Online Adult Biz

WASHINGTON ? A bill has been introduced in Congress that would impose 10-year prison sentences and property seizures for online adult operators who make available any porn content, including splash pages, without an age-verification system.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/114903

alias · 11-17-2009, 05:09 PM

Benelux time.

TMM_John · 11-17-2009, 05:14 PM

Someone needs to inform members of Congress that some websites actually exist outside of the jurisdiction of the US.

kmanrox · 11-17-2009, 05:17 PM

that must suck to have to adhere to american laws eh?

baddog · 11-17-2009, 05:17 PM

COPA Part Deux

Thurbs · 11-17-2009, 05:21 PM

lol .. sure, not like we have other pressing issues in the US .....

but who will think of the rotten children, you know, the ones that kill each other after school, get pregnant at 12, steal, lie, don't know shit, dress like thugs and whores .....

baddog · 11-17-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox

that must suck to have to adhere to american laws eh?

I guess you missed this:

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The bill, HR 4059, also targets payment service providers, making them responsible to maintain internal policies to ensure that porn isn?t displayed to web surfers who enter sites without first verifying that the user is at least 18.

I would not worry though, these things never pass. At least not when we had a conservative supreme court.

american pervert · 11-17-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I guess you missed this:

I would not worry though, these things never pass. At least not when we had a conservative supreme court.

i know you love ccbill but there are other payment providers out there not from the usa.

pocketkangaroo · 11-17-2009, 05:41 PM

Correction for the article, Stupak is a Democrat, not Republican. He is real conservative on social issues and a Christian fundamentalist.

Also, you've really sensationalized the story. The 10 year sentence is a maximum. You'll find in most states there are multiple year jail sentences on the books for serving or selling alcohol to minors. No one really gets that and it's the high end of the spectrum.

And stating that "making it available" is enough for the prison sentence is wrong. The bill clearly states you have to have intent to sell or provide access through a sale. That means you would have to be shown to actively be trying to sell to minors. Much different than just making it available to minors. It also includes firearms, tobacco, and alcohol. Rules are already very strict on this stuff offline so I'm not sure why you'd expect it to be different online.

It also seems that these are regulations on those actually selling it (which is why it's under the FTC). It's rather vague, but I wouldn't assume affiliates or exhibitionists would be included in the mix.

I'm not for the bill and don't know enough of the details involved in it, but you guys are really sensationalizing something by using some misleading statements to make it seem bigger than it is. I'd also be shocked if it passed considering similar bills have failed to go through under much more conservative Congresses.

Jimmy Rock · 11-17-2009, 05:48 PM

Age check everything! get rid of free surfers Tube sites giving everything away for free. only qualified Credit Card holders with cash surfing porn, hmmm

tiger · 11-17-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

COPA Part Deux

Yep, here we go again.

11-17-2009, 05:51 PM

PART DEUX

baddog · 11-17-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Rock

Age check everything! get rid of free surfers Tube sites giving everything away for free. only qualified Credit Card holders with cash surfing porn, hmmm

I know. Not really sure why people are against this concept.

MaDalton · 11-17-2009, 06:09 PM

Welcome to German Internet!

We have this since years and I would really appreciate if that would be introduced also to the rest of the world.

Two reasons:

- my German clients would be able to compete again with all sites outside Germany who do not care about this for now and therefore have a massive advantage. more jobs for me ;)

- free porn will die. while people obviously do not care for copyright they DO care for going to jail because of committing a felony. there is not a single german operated tube site, tgp or whatever that shows free hardcore porn. because it is illegal.

and to say that it is technically not possible (like in the article) is a joke - cause it obviously is.

but it only will work if Visa and Mastercard push this - worldwide

pocketkangaroo · 11-17-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I know. Not really sure why people are against this concept.

I agree. We're the pharmaceutical company and the government wants to make it tougher for people to buy cheap knockoff drugs without a prescription off the streets.

Loch · 11-17-2009, 06:22 PM

Yeah course in the current state of North America THIS is what we should worry about....gotya.
Way to go burning down more small business owners

baddog · 11-17-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Loch

Yeah course in the current state of North America THIS is what we should worry about....gotya.
Way to go burning down more small business owners

How is eliminating free porn a bad thing?

gleem · 11-17-2009, 06:53 PM

scary the things they try and pass... one day somethings gonna slip by buried in some bullshit bailout bill and boom we are all fucked.

But seriously, I wish the world would adopt this, no vagina cock or anything more than kissing and some censored nipples on front ends... that would bring back the 1:40 ratios I had in 1997!

would be funny if after all the scary posts about what bush and his cronies were gonna do to porn (and never did) something like this passed under a Liberal admin.

Mutt · 11-17-2009, 06:56 PM

like COPA this would be fantastic for our industry.

Les Grossman · 11-17-2009, 08:02 PM

One of these days, US webmasters will get their heads out of their asses and move all their assets abroad, protect them, and flip the USA and their stupid anti-porn rules, the bird.

You are enemies to your own country.

pornlaw · 11-17-2009, 08:02 PM

Strange how everything turns around. Now people in the industry would support COPA II.

baddog · 11-17-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw

Strange how everything turns around. Now people in the industry would support COPA II.

Why do you think I have an AVS?

GatorB · 11-17-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by xbizdon

XBIZ NEWS: House Bill Would Heavily Regulate Online Adult Biz

WASHINGTON ? A bill has been introduced in Congress that would impose 10-year prison sentences and property seizures for online adult operators who make available any porn content, including splash pages, without an age-verification system.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/114903

They tried this in 1998. It was called COPA, it failed. This will fail too. If it passes it will be in the court system for a decade or more.

GatorB · 11-17-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

like COPA this would be fantastic for our industry.

COPA was shit. It was nothing more than a first move to ban porn on the internet in the US completely.

Oh by the way would Google have to comply? No.

Kingfish · 11-17-2009, 08:36 PM

Could be a good thing as it would for all effective purposes kill free porn as the only Age Verification system is `a credit card. But if I recollect correctly because of the case law that was developed surrounding COPPA even if passed this law would have a difficult time surviving court challenge. Basically the court said there was a less intrusive way to keep minors from seeing porn namely filters. So it hard to see how they could successfully argue that basically making people pre-register to view porn is both less intrusive and more effective than filters.

MaDalton · 11-17-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

COPA was shit. It was nothing more than a first move to ban porn on the internet in the US completely.

Oh by the way would Google have to comply? No.

well, they do in other countries

GatorB · 11-17-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingfish

Could be a good thing as it would for all effective purposes kill free porn as the only Age Verification system is `a credit card.

well except 16 year old can have credit cards and of course teenagers have been known to "borrow" mom's or dad's credit card. So hardly an effective way of keeping minors from seeing porn.

Oh and I love this part

Sponsored by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., the bill also would establish a system to create certification for approved sites and a blacklist for adult operators who are not in compliance with mandatory age verification.

Government approved porn sites? So it's going to be somebody's job to approve triplepussyfuckedwhores.com, doubleanalmidgets.com and hairyasiantrannies.com?

GatorB · 11-17-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

well, they do in other countries

Does Google currently comply with 2257? No. They aren't required. Why not? $$$$$$$$$

TheAmericanCannibal · 11-17-2009, 08:58 PM

Thurbs hit me up
:-))

fatfoo · 11-17-2009, 08:59 PM

Age verification system, so would that be an enter page that says, "Over 18? - Yes/No" ?

MaDalton · 11-17-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

well except 16 year old can have credit cards and of course teenagers have been known to "borrow" mom's or dad's credit card. So hardly an effective way of keeping minors from seeing porn.

also for this are technical solutions already in place

we have been through all this already, you can't come up with anything that has not already been discussed and solved over here

NickB. · 11-17-2009, 09:04 PM

fucking classic

lets try and control the internet while the country its economy is going down the shitter

jwerd · 11-17-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

scary the things they try and pass... one day somethings gonna slip by buried in some bullshit bailout bill and boom we are all fucked.

But seriously, I wish the world would adopt this, no vagina cock or anything more than kissing and some censored nipples on front ends... that would bring back the 1:40 ratios I had in 1997!

would be funny if after all the scary posts about what bush and his cronies were gonna do to porn (and never did) something like this passed under a Liberal admin.

plenty of shit has passed thru, look at the patriot act for instance

GatorB · 11-17-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

also for this are technical solutions already in place

we have been through all this already, you can't come up with anything that has not already been discussed and solved over here

Well except this is America and America isn't going to take any ideas form Cheque Republic or any other country. We are after all the only industrialized nation that doesn't deem healthcare improtant enough to make sure everyone has it. So what makes you think the same politicans are going to use other people's ideas? It's not our way. Our way is to comes up with half-assed laws that have half-assed solutions that end up being a total clusterfuck.

GatorB · 11-17-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gleem

would be funny if after all the scary posts about what bush and his cronies were gonna do to porn (and never did) something like this passed under a Liberal admin.

Please show me where this PASSED?

The legislation, introduced earlier this month, already has been referred to the Committee on Financial Services and the Committee on Energy and Commerce for review

You do realize that 95% of bills die in committee. First it has to get reviewed then it has to be passed by the committee. That right there will take months at the minimum. Then it has to be introduced to the House, which could take many more months. Even if it passes a similar bill will have to pass the Senate. Which of course that bill will have to go through committee before being voted on in the Senate. Then both bills will have to be combined in a way that is acceptable to both Houses of Congress then it goes to the President for his signature. Then of course the inevitable lawsuit which of course will lead to an injunction until the case can be heard. Even if the lower courts approve it it will be continually appealed until it reaches the Supreme Court. Even if the Supreme Court agrees the law is Constitutional it could be the year 2020. Who knows that the internet will be like then.

baddog · 11-17-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Please show me where this PASSED?

Can you comprehend what you read? It does not appear so.

GatorB · 11-17-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Can you comprehend what you read? It does not appear so.

You ALWAYS have something smart assed to say about my posts. WTF is your problem. If you don't like me put me on ignore. No you have this bug up your ass to be a dick. For an old guy you need to grow the fuck up. If you don't like me or my posts as I said IGNORE me and them and move on with you life. Is asking you to act something older than a 8th grader too much to ask?

MaDalton · 11-17-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Well except this is America and America isn't going to take any ideas form Cheque Republic or any other country. We are after all the only industrialized nation that doesn't deem healthcare improtant enough to make sure everyone has it. So what makes you think the same politicans are going to use other people's ideas? It's not our way. Our way is to comes up with half-assed laws that have half-assed solutions that end up being a total clusterfuck.

i am talking about Germany - thats 80 million people and the second largest porn market worldwide.

and all i say is that you can come up with anything you want - like "there's no technical solution", "credit cards are not suffcient", "the internet has no borders" etc... but when politicians think they can put up something like an age verification they will. and they better look at what has been developed already somewhere else before they can come up with something really stupid they pull out their own asses.

slavdogg · 11-17-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

Someone needs to inform members of Congress that some websites actually exist outside of the jurisdiction of the US.

if you're a US citizen, derive your revenue from US, have hosting in the US, use a US based billing company + few other factors you are subject to a US jurisdiction

slavdogg · 11-17-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

like COPA this would be fantastic for our industry.

nice to see some intelligent life still exhibits on gfy.
I agree, this is a GREAT thing.

MediaGuy · 11-17-2009, 09:48 PM

Will they provide the script?

:D

slavdogg · 11-17-2009, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Well except this is America and America isn't going to take any ideas form Cheque Republic or any other country. We are after all the only industrialized nation that doesn't deem healthcare improtant enough to make sure everyone has it. So what makes you think the same politicans are going to use other people's ideas? It's not our way. Our way is to comes up with half-assed laws that have half-assed solutions that end up being a total clusterfuck.

hahaha

xxxjay · 11-17-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by xbizdon

XBIZ NEWS: House Bill Would Heavily Regulate Online Adult Biz

WASHINGTON ? A bill has been introduced in Congress that would impose 10-year prison sentences and property seizures for online adult operators who make available any porn content, including splash pages, without an age-verification system.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/114903

I hope it passes.

baddog · 11-17-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

You ALWAYS have something smart assed to say about my posts.

Simple. You are such an idiot that it is just too good of a target to pass by.

RonC · 11-17-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert

i know you love ccbill but there are other payment providers out there not from the usa.

Not to be a smart ASS but last time I checked VISA and MasterCard are still US. This would CHANGE alot. I agree it will probably never pass.

Ron C
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CCbill.com
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BFT3K · 11-17-2009, 10:58 PM

Just to play devil's advocate...

A 12 year old can not walk into a 7-11 here in the US and purchase a Penthouse Magazine, but the same kid can see as much sick shit as he wants on the internet without any age verification whatsoever.

I remember a few years back it was still exciting to find a free image gallery of dirty pictures. Now you can hop onto any of a thousand tubes and watch as much insane sex as you want... but for some reason the excitement is gone.

Less free shit may in fact reignite sexual interest, desires, and maybe even sales!

I know it's a slippery slope, but porn was just much more fun and exciting when it was hard to find.

Robbie · 11-17-2009, 11:09 PM

I see it two ways...
First off, you have to remember that we had a really good run in the 2000's. Yeah, the late 1990's were incredible as well. And a lot of the sales that happened from 2000 to 2007 came from 15 year old boys who were surfing our tgps a few years earlier. Then when they came of age and had credit cards they were ready to buy memberships. They had spent a few years wondering what was really inside those members areas.
I made millions of dollars selling memberships through my tgps and I can tell you 100% that those surfers started as teen boys and grew up with me online.
So on one hand, this would kill the affiliate model the rest of the way. Oh, it would still be on life support to some extent through non-nude blogging and galleries...but it would pretty much be dead as would all that traffic.

BUT...on the other hand...illegit tubes with full scenes and bit torrent sites with full members area rips have already killed it. Those 15 year olds that used to come to me now go to the tubes and torrents and no longer grow up waiting to get a credit card.

So, even though it would mean the end of my tgp business after all these years...I think it might be the only way to kill the tubes and torrents.

Of course with our luck, the govt. will give the tubes and torrents a free pass just like they did with 2257 laws and copyright laws because it's "user uploaded" and we will end up even MORE fucked than we already are.

baddog · 11-17-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

So on one hand, this would kill the affiliate model the rest of the way.

How so?

will76 · 11-17-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Just to play devil's advocate...

A 12 year old can not walk into a 7-11 here in the US and purchase a Penthouse Magazine, but the same kid can see as much sick shit as he wants on the internet without any age verification whatsoever.

I remember a few years back it was still exciting to find a free image gallery of dirty pictures. Now you can hop onto any of a thousand tubes and watch as much insane sex as you want... but for some reason the excitement is gone.

Less free shit may in fact reignite sexual interest, desires, and maybe even sales!

I know it's a slippery slope, but porn was just much more fun and exciting when it was hard to find.

But a 12 year old can turn on HBO and watch full nudity fuck scenes.... your point ?

Mine is a lot more accurate. When it comes to brick and mater, real people in the flesh "handing over" the porn, then it would be absolutely crazy not to have them "check id".

What we are dealing with here is what kids have access to from their own home where there is no way that a website nor a cable station knows who is watching. What happens in the home falls under "parenting" or lack of since the parents are the only ones who can block porn from their kids. They can put filters in place, not let the kid have a pc with internet access in their room, or god forbid supervise thier internet usage. If parents cant control what their kids do in their own homes, then the issue isn't with porn sites, they have much greater problems on their hands.

BFT3K · 11-17-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

But a 12 year old can turn on HBO and watch full nudity fuck scenes.... your point ?

My point is too much free hardcore porn is desensitizing a generation, while simultaneously killing off sales, since it is all out there for free now.

To compare HBO to current internet porn is like comparing a firecracker to an atomic bomb.

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pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Correction for the article, Stupak is a Democrat, not Republican. He is real conservative on social issues and a Christian fundamentalist. Also, you've really sensationalized the story. The 10 year sentence is a maximum. You'll find in most states there are multiple year jail sentences on the books for serving or selling alcohol to minors. No one really gets that and it's the high end of the spectrum. And stating that "making it available" is enough for the prison sentence is wrong. The bill clearly states you have to have intent to sell or provide access through a sale. That means you would have to be shown to actively be trying to sell to minors. Much different than just making it available to minors. It also includes firearms, tobacco, and alcohol. Rules are already very strict on this stuff offline so I'm not sure why you'd expect it to be different online. It also seems that these are regulations on those actually selling it (which is why it's under the FTC). It's rather vague, but I wouldn't assume affiliates or exhibitionists would be included in the mix. I'm not for the bill and don't know enough of the details involved in it, but you guys are really sensationalizing something by using some misleading statements to make it seem bigger than it is. I'd also be shocked if it passed considering similar bills have failed to go through under much more conservative Congresses.

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Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	I see it two ways... First off, you have to remember that we had a really good run in the 2000's. Yeah, the late 1990's were incredible as well. And a lot of the sales that happened from 2000 to 2007 came from 15 year old boys who were surfing our tgps a few years earlier. Then when they came of age and had credit cards they were ready to buy memberships. They had spent a few years wondering what was really inside those members areas. I made millions of dollars selling memberships through my tgps and I can tell you 100% that those surfers started as teen boys and grew up with me online. So on one hand, this would kill the affiliate model the rest of the way. Oh, it would still be on life support to some extent through non-nude blogging and galleries...but it would pretty much be dead as would all that traffic. BUT...on the other hand...illegit tubes with full scenes and bit torrent sites with full members area rips have already killed it. Those 15 year olds that used to come to me now go to the tubes and torrents and no longer grow up waiting to get a credit card. So, even though it would mean the end of my tgp business after all these years...I think it might be the only way to kill the tubes and torrents. Of course with our luck, the govt. will give the tubes and torrents a free pass just like they did with 2257 laws and copyright laws because it's "user uploaded" and we will end up even MORE fucked than we already are. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com Last edited by Robbie; 11-17-2009 at 11:12 PM..