Global warming?? where's Al Gore??

[cherrylula]

It's SNOWING in New Orleans again! TOO COLD.

We're not used to this weather! My house is like a cheesebox and the floor is freezing cold.

At least it's killing all the vegetation.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

At least it's killing all the vegetation.

[spazlabz]

Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

i know right. how do people not get this??

if it gets hotter, its man made global warming climate change

if it gets colder, its man made global warming climate change

they have all bases covered.

got it people?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

It's SNOWING in New Orleans again! TOO COLD.

We're not used to this weather! My house is like a cheesebox and the floor is freezing cold.

At least it's killing all the vegetation.

Wh don't you educate yourself on the effects of global warming. You'll find things like this are actually one of those results.

[cherrylula]

hey PornGreen, are you TGF? Mr. JP? lol hey whats uppppp if so homie

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Wh don't you educate yourself on the effects of global warming. You'll find things like this are actually one of those results.

It's just a thread, to whine and complain in. I don't have time for that but thanks for the suggestion.

I know Choker made a similar thread a while back, people were arguing all day about global warming. Go for it!

[maxxtro]

ManBearPig is not a joke, you asshole

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by maxxtro

ManBearPig is not a joke, you asshole

LOL! hahahahahaha yesss

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[Brujah]

Listen.

Al Gore is a Democrat.

Democrats only have your best interests in mind.

[TheDoc]

It's been much colder, so much so most of our homes would be under a mile thick layer of ice. It's been much hotter before too, so much so most of us wouldn't have drinking water if it happened today.

Welcome to earth.. where things change with or without humans.

[TheDoc]

..... February 15, 1895 - New Orleans Snowfall 9 inches. It snowed like this from Galveston Texas across the gulf States.

While it's rare, it's not uncommon - it has happened in your life several times before.

[BestXXXPorn]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

It's been much colder, so much so most of our homes would be under a mile thick layer of ice. It's been much hotter before too, so much so most of us wouldn't have drinking water if it happened today.

Welcome to earth.. where things change with or without humans.

Exactly, as if a few thousands years of recorded history, and even less of recorded weather history was even a blip on the timeline for how long this planet has been around...

Essentially global warming is akin to a faith based religion... it's non-falsifiable.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be working towards a "greener" planet as it seems to be a no brainer to NOT pollute the Earth. We're getting there though! So many amazing electric cars with crazy ass batteries coming out of the next several years. It's pretty exciting really

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

I'm not saying we shouldn't be working towards a "greener" planet

yes you are, greedy capitalist scum

[BestXXXPorn]

Originally Posted by Brujah

yes you are, greedy capitalist scum

LOL, ya' got me. I'm saying we need a black, scorched earth. The kind where robots have stripped the planet of all its resources in order to build copies of themselves to stamp out the human resistance!

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

LOL, ya' got me. I'm saying we need a black, scorched earth. The kind where robots have stripped the planet of all its resources in order to build copies of themselves to stamp out the human resistance!

I knew it.

[brassmonkey]

it's cold here in Az in the 20's last nite

[Coup]

Glenn Beck is a CIA PLANT

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

..... February 15, 1895 - New Orleans Snowfall 9 inches. It snowed like this from Galveston Texas across the gulf States.

While it's rare, it's not uncommon - it has happened in your life several times before.

yeah it snows here a little almost every year now it seems... the first time I cracked up like crazy and took pics! the cold doesn't last long though...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

In the 80s they were warning us that the next ice age was coming.
10 years later they started warning us for global warming...
When their predictions were proven wrong they changed the name to climate change...

I wonder what they will come up with next to scare people in giving up their money...

[TurboAngel]

I'm so glad we don't have any snow! It was 60 yesterday and now it's 32.

[EonBlue]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interglacial

Warmer = better.

[pornguy]

going to be in the 80's today for us. Even had to turn on the AC for a few hours last night.

[Rochard]

In the 1980s they told us we were heading towards an ice age. I think they honestly have no idea what's going on. We are seeing extreme weather - hotter summers, and snow in odd places. Huge storms. It's just a huge cycle of mother nature - one we've never seen before.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Rochard

In the 1980s they told us we were heading towards an ice age. I think they honestly have no idea what's going on. We are seeing extreme weather - hotter summers, and snow in odd places. Huge storms. It's just a huge cycle of mother nature - one we've never seen before.

We are heading towards an ice age, inevitably. 20,000 years ago there was 2 kilometers of ice over where I now sit. 20,000 years from now there probably will be again.

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Exactly, as if a few thousands years of recorded history, and even less of recorded weather history was even a blip on the timeline for how long this planet has been around...

We are pretty good at figuring out stuff that happened way before humans were around.

For example, we don't need to rely on recorded history to know that the earth went through a number of ice ages.

Nobody seriously thinks that the earth was never covered in ice, just because we have "no recorded history" of it.

We also have no recorded history of the tectonic shift, or photographs of the dinosaurs, nor did I ever see in person the dead body of Elvis. Indirect evidence, in such cases, is just as good for anybody not wearing a tinfoil hat.

Originally Posted by BestXXXPorn

Essentially global warming is akin to a faith based religion... it's non-falsifiable.

Wrong, sorry.
Religion makes no falsifiable predictions (except when it says that the world will end in 2012, of course.)

Climate scientists make PLENTY of predictions that are very easy to check.
They do it all the time, it's pretty much their job (albeit certainly not on a month-by-month or zipcode-by-zipcode basis).

Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

[seeandsee]

-7 here and i say global cock warming in their asses

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by alf6300

Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

The correlation between increased CO2 causing increased temperature has been falsified.

[Tom_PM]

These days you can just flip on the tv network that comports with the views you already hold true and be right all day long. It's funny how when the world gets smaller, larger divides open up. Well, not funny really. Just strange.

I mean hell, I guess there actually ARE people who ACTUALLY dont believe that green houses do anything. They dont trap any gas, they dont warm up inside. It's identical inside one as it is outside one. Amazing.

[Dirty Dane]

2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by Coup

Glenn Beck is a CIA PLANT

well at least he's some kind of vegetation;)

hey at least Mardi Gras isn't until March this year, should warm up by then.

[Caligari]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

-7 here and i say global cock warming in their asses

hey you can't steal my new niche, i've been shooting global cock warming anal sex vids for the last month so don't even think about it

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by Rochard

In the 1980s they told us we were heading towards an ice age. I think they honestly have no idea what's going on. We are seeing extreme weather - hotter summers, and snow in odd places. Huge storms. It's just a huge cycle of mother nature - one we've never seen before.

what's extreme about it? because the media says so? extreme compared to what? the last 10 years out of 13 billion?

there is nothing extreme going on with the weather. people fail to realize the incredible range of weather this planet has and will always experience, and that range is completely normal because it always has and always will happen on this planet.

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

how long is that record?

how old is the planet?

[BestXXXPorn]

Originally Posted by alf6300

Wrong, sorry.
Religion makes no falsifiable predictions (except when it says that the world will end in 2012, of course.)

Climate scientists make PLENTY of predictions that are very easy to check.
They do it all the time, it's pretty much their job (albeit certainly not on a month-by-month or zipcode-by-zipcode basis).

Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

I should have clarified, sorry 'bout that. I'm not talking about the direct cause/effect... which is still up for debate even. What I'm referring to is the idea that this is bad... I mean, after all, mother nature contributes VAST amounts of CO2 into their air... something like 10% - 20% of what all humans contribute but still, no small amount...

Additionally, there have been a few papers publisher in the past year or so that show how the ice caps are melting faster from undersea volcanic activity... It seems to me that the Earth is cyclic in nature we are just speeding up that process.

The thing is, no amount of cap and trade bills, additional taxes on oil companies, etc... is going to change a fucking thing. What the world needs is a commercially viable alternative to burning oil and those extra taxes levied on oil companies reduce the amount of R&D capital they have to spend. Oil companies, after all, spend more money developing alternative fuel sources than any other market segment. They know their days are numbered and the first one to a product, wins.

My problem with Global Warming is that it's still under debate yet it's being used as a key decision maker to ramrod through additional regulation and taxation across the board...

The ONLY real solution is to create commercially viable alternative fuel sources; and by commercially viable, I mean, affordable. We also need to move to more nuclear power plants and away from the old school coal burning pieces of crap :P THEN we will see mass amounts of reduced greenhouse gases. It's coming, the people want it, the planet wants it, there IS a need and that need will be filled and when it is; may the best product win.

[TheSenator]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

Palm face
it is not GLOBAL WARMING
it IS CLIMATE CHANGE

and snowing in Nor'Leans kinda proves the point

I hear this everyday in New Jersey!

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Wh don't you educate yourself on the effects of global warming. You'll find things like this are actually one of those results.

that's PERPOSTEROUSESSSESSS

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by PornGreen

how long is that record?

how old is the planet?

1850?

plus they can take core samples and gauge temperatures/climate on an 'extremely educated guess' premise going back a lot longer than that

[Tom_PM]

Clean coal. Now thats a myth.

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

plus they can take core samples and gauge temperatures/climate on an 'extremely educated guess' premise going back a lot longer than that

and what were those temperate ranges?

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by PornGreen

and what were those temperate ranges?

Exactly.... they are extreme!

20 degrees hotter across the entire planet, frozen across the entire planet, cycles of it happening almost instantly, cycles of it happening slowly, local areas with totally different temps/weather, ice caps that have totally melted and glaciers on the equator are even possible, entire destruction, rebuilding, recycling... far worse, far better - we are currently somewhere in the middle right now.

[PornGreen]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Exactly.... they are extreme!

20 degrees hotter across the entire planet, frozen across the entire planet, cycles of it happening almost instantly, cycles of it happening slowly, local areas with totally different temps/weather, ice caps that have totally melted and glaciers on the equator are even possible, entire destruction, rebuilding, recycling... far worse, far better - we are currently somewhere in the middle right now.

There qctually isnt a debate. The pentagon issued report on it during the bush yrs. The debate is science vs companies that have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are. Al gore doesnt benefit from this but if the noise machine creates doubt then the oil and coal benefit.

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

2010 was the warmest year on record globally.

Based on what record and of what reliability? How long have we been gathering reliable and consistent temperature records globally?

According to paleo-climate reconstructions it has been far warmer in the past than it is now. Why all the panic?

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by tony286

There qctually isnt a debate. The pentagon issued report on it during the bush yrs. The debate is science vs companies that have a vested interest in keeping things the way they are. Al gore doesnt benefit from this but if the noise machine creates doubt then the oil and coal benefit.

No, the debate is between science and governments along with their NGO environmentalist groups who have a vested interest in increased regulation, increased taxation and new revenue streams beneficial to themselves.

And Al Gore has profited to the tune of millions and millions of dollars pushing this global warming hysteria.

[PR_Glen]

Originally Posted by alf6300

We are pretty good at figuring out stuff that happened way before humans were around.

For example, we don't need to rely on recorded history to know that the earth went through a number of ice ages.

Nobody seriously thinks that the earth was never covered in ice, just because we have "no recorded history" of it.

We also have no recorded history of the tectonic shift, or photographs of the dinosaurs, nor did I ever see in person the dead body of Elvis. Indirect evidence, in such cases, is just as good for anybody not wearing a tinfoil hat.



Wrong, sorry.
Religion makes no falsifiable predictions (except when it says that the world will end in 2012, of course.)

Climate scientists make PLENTY of predictions that are very easy to check.
They do it all the time, it's pretty much their job (albeit certainly not on a month-by-month or zipcode-by-zipcode basis).

Make a small model of the earth and put it under the sun. It gets considerably hotter if you fill the atmosphere of your small model with co2.

That's essentially what climatologists do, and extrapolate the data to see how much co2 will make the global temperature hotter, and when. A very falsifiable prediction, indeed.

Sadly, the model and predictions have not been falsified yet: quite the contrary. So I would prefer not to bet my ass and my kids ass that they are wrong, but that's indeed what we are doing.

your faith in the accuracy of a science that is based on a best guess mentality is just as crazy and believable as the 10 commandments were derived from a burning bush...

Either find jesus or try figuring out the difference between fact and estimation and your arguments may hold more water...

[brassmonkey]

where are the gfy scientist ?

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Exactly.... they are extreme!

20 degrees hotter across the entire planet, frozen across the entire planet, cycles of it happening almost instantly, cycles of it happening slowly, local areas with totally different temps/weather, ice caps that have totally melted and glaciers on the equator are even possible, entire destruction, rebuilding, recycling... far worse, far better - we are currently somewhere in the middle right now.

thing is, there wasn't 7 billion self-involved animals that have no problem dumping a wide range of gases liquids and solids in places those things shouldn't be

so yea, all of us have heard this argument before, if anyone here wants to stick their heads in the sand, i suggest you do that.

again, i suggest you stick your heads in the sand on a beach area. don't leave.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

thing is, there wasn't 7 billion self-involved animals that have no problem dumping a wide range of gases liquids and solids in places those things shouldn't be

so yea, all of us have heard this argument before, if anyone here wants to stick their heads in the sand, i suggest you do that.

again, i suggest you stick your heads in the sand on a beach area. don't leave.

Every chemical we're saying today is causing us harm has been greatly higher and lower, from the air to the water, well before humans influenced them.

And like before, it's all recycled.

[alf6300]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

your faith in the accuracy of a science that is based on a best guess mentality is just as crazy and believable as the 10 commandments were derived from a burning bush...

What's your definition of a "science based on a best guess mentality"?

If by that you want to mean a science that employs "statistical models", then yes: I quite believe that statistical models are useful indeed - without them you would not have the computer on which you are typing your message, nor your air conditioning.

You would probably not even want to take a life-saving drung, because clinical trials are also based on statistical models ("best guesses" as you call them, and it's a decent wording and not an insult at all for any science. Best guesses in science are what make you now live 80 years instead of 35 just a little time ago).