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There are several stories circulating on the Internet regarding bandwidth (the speed at which you access the Internet) and how it is going to begin to reach capacity very soon unless something is done. This will render the Internet almost completely useless for everything but the simplest and slimmest of applications.

The reason given is because the demand for high-speed Internet access is growing at a rate of 60% each year. Estimates tell us that by as early as 2010, we could begin to see excessive slowdowns in Internet response based purely on the amount of traffic that is traversing the web around the world.

In addition to the mammoth demand growth factor is the fact that bandwidth-hogging applications like YouTube and other multimedia streaming sources are causing bandwidth to slow down as well.

What does all of this mean? It means that the Internet would not be fast enough for much beyond maybe checking email. Feature-rich web pages would churn slowly on your screen. It would take many minutes to log onto your online bank account to check your balance. In effect, it would be like the days when we had to use analog modems to connect to the Internet.
One potential concern resulting from eventuality would be that operating system (Microsoft Windows, Mac, etc.) and other business and home application patches and updates would be slowed down, as would be antivirus definitions, etc.

How else could it affect you? If you are now enjoying the high speed of your Internet

connection, enjoy it while you can. But beyond that, businesses that have begun to depend on the Internet could be forced to do business the old fashioned way using snail mail, faxing and other resources to send and receive information around the world.

Imagine a world without the ability to download movies or music and where the act of researching information on Wikipedia would be slowed to a crawl. All of this and the other myriad of website applications that you enjoy now would be challenging to view.

What is being done? There are several options being looked into right now. US companies and those in the UK are busy right now in an effort to upgrade infrastructure, cabling and supercomputers to expand the capabilities of the Internet. There is also talk about planning a very fast parallel network called ?The Grid.? Other consultants are conferring on the idea of creating systems for ?caching? (storing frequently requested information) on servers in the cloud rather than having the Internet deliver information on demand as it is needed.

The bottom line ? there is nothing for the average user to do at this point. Keeping informed as to the possibilities that might occur will help you understand the ?whys? behind any major slowdowns that you might face in the near future.

Technology has accomplished amazing feats in the last 20 years, and the hope is that something will be devised and implemented quickly to maintain the instant, any time access to information and entertainment that we all need and desire. That is what makes the Internet such an important resource for us all.

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yep, youtube will buy all our bandwith

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it will only get faster, remember some people are also claiming that there is a new currency coming out called amero and that they are setting up prison camps all over america to throw everyone in there

the net will grow bigger better and faster

server hardware and network hardware is getting more advanced by the day and cheaper as well

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Ban all the illegal tubes, then we can get some speed back.

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Yeah this is a load of bullshit. Why would my ISP be telling me about all the new stuff they have coming in the next year etc? I can get a 50mbit connection with them currently. I'm willing to be that its up by this time next year.

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Matt 26z

The US has the slowest internet speeds in the developed world. So I'm not worried about getting slower here.

dial

what do you consider slow? I have a standard home connection here and it is 30mbit

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Matt 26z

Pretty much all broadband users are on plans like 1.5mbps, 3mbps or 5mbps.

The outdated communications infrastructure in the US does not support 30mbps for everyone. That is impossible. The other major countries have more current technology in place. Land area is a major obsticle for the US. An overwhelming amount of upgrades need to be performed.

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dial

weird, I am using insight and I swear it says 30mbps right there on their front page. I am in the early acceptance program with them, which is why I have it now, but their standard speeds are 10mbps and 20mbps

http://myinsight.com/Product-Broadband-Dashboard.asp



right now I am downloading a movie torrent at 3500kbps

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MrMaxwell

What the guy is saying is that 30m for EVERYONE is impossible
But didn't google come out awhile back saying they had built their own infrastructure for all of their traffic? How the HELL does THAT work, anyway? Basically they've bought their own fiber... right?
Well that would take a huge strain off of everything if people could somehow connect directy to google .. LOL over here .. But won't they still have to go through the internet to get to that??

dial

as the internet grows so does the technology, by the time everyone is ready to get 30mbps the technology will have caught up

back when we had only phone lines and 28.8 modems I bet someone back then argued that we would never get past 56k connections..LOL

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Scott McD

Hehe, what a croc of shit!

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woj

not buying any of that, it sounds plausible, but very unlikely...

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It is a fear tactic often used by U.S. based telcos. It's not new by any means.

They have been saying this from the get go. In the 90's Clinton Administration gave the telcos a ton of money to build an internet as fast as Japan, and some other countries that were outpacing the U.S..

The telcos instead pocketed the money, and never invested in what that money was for. Instead they engaged in a lot of deceptive, and shady business practices to wipe out their competition that was going on in the late 90's and early 2000's snuffing out the Choice One's and other companies that were competition with them for data and land lines.

Almost 10 years later we are back to the monoliths, and "Bells" that make up less that a handful of the major telcoms, and communication conglomerates, or cartel, that are constantly crying wolf to get more money or they will cut back services.

This game has been going on for some time now, and despite the sabre rattling, the U.S. continues to fall behind other countries in cell phone and telco technology and broadband speeds. In the end it is little more than capitalism, and corporate greed at work.

There were thousands of miles of fiber laid back in the late 90's and early 2000's from those companies that went out of business during the dot com bubble. There was, at that time, so much data and black fiber laid that they had said something like only 10% was being used. So I doubt that there is going to be any cutting off of the net anytime soon.

However, corporate America and telcoms will keep playing that game until they get their staggered service option where they can charge more for usage, or more government money for investment in the network.

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Emma

Yes it will slow down and already has. That's the fact.

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Les Grossman

The prison camps are bs, but a new currency is coming. Count on it.

My best friend works for a private military company, usually does stints in the middle east and africa, but has been in the usa TRAINING for domestic unrest for the past 8 months. Their company is one of many who has been called on by the us government to be on standby in the event they are needed. He said one thing they are counting on happening, is when the dollar really starts to collapse, there will be a bank run of epic proportions. The PMC's will be deployed to the banks to protect them "WITH DEADLY FORCE" if need be.

There is a scary new world being created right now. Those of you with high military or government contacts should be able to catch wind of some of the things they are putting into place should the shit hit the fan, as they expect it to.

TheDoc

My Dad remembers this story in the 70's....

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TheDoc

Oh yeah, related to the topic...

We can't run out of bandwidth, it's impossible... your ISP can run out of bandwidth though.


Bandwidth wise, that's your ISP is being a pile of crap. Unless your ISP uses an America backbone on the other side of the world, the Internet couldn't effect your part of the Internet unless a major hub went down.


Asia has 3 times the users online, euro has double the people online, over all of North America, even during US peak hours.

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dial

i just wanted to quote this for the sake of quoting it. it has to be the stupidest thing I have heard all day. got ANY proof to back up this claim?

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Les Grossman

That's good. Then maybe he is prepared. It took the world governments 40 years or more to put all of this into place, and it's all now coming to a head.

TheDoc

Well the problem is... it, was suppose to happen in the 70's... (from the drugs in the 60's, so even in the 60s 50 40 30 20s...), they had camps, military ready to take over that day... Thing is, same thing, every decade. Money value done, rights are history, everything has gotten worse yet.. it's better than 20 years ago...

It was suppose to happen in the 80's, with the cold war when everyone was super scared, that was ww3, kids hiding under desks for drills that the bomb was coming. Then it was suppose to happen in the 90's, then it was suppose to happen under Bush..

Fuck.... when it's going to happen? And my god, these people live like 200 years too.. when are they going to fucking die?

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Les Grossman

Maybe they are cyborgs?

Well, this is the first depression since the great depression. All the other times "it" could have happened, it was just high tension, but the world was not in place yet. Now you are watching banks collapse, banks that were "too big to fail" along with giant corporations who were also too big to fail. None of which has happened since the great depression. With that being said, experts are expecting up to 1000 more banks to fail over the next 12 - 24 months. That is epic. Never before have we seen this.

The debt is higher than it has ever been and the current president has spent more money than ALL other presidents COMBINED. We are trillions of dollars in debt to China. That is epic.

The money printing machines are running 24 hours a day for the first time ever, devaluing the currency faster than they can print it. Also epic.

You will not see chaos until the banking system totally falls in on itself or the USD truly collapses and/or we have hyper inflation. All of which are not too far away if the government does not pull its head out of its ass. However, if this happens, you will see bank runs across the country, and there is where it will begin. There will be no money to give them, this will create panic and then chaos. They will also be met by military, national guard and PMCs. This will be the defining moment that will start it all. Never before have we had this. This is why NOW is different.

Having said that, we will see a false recovery before the system has a total meltdown. You can not sustain the spending and borrowing that we are doing now and expect things to end nicely. We have a few years left. In the meantime, the government will do EVERYTHING they can to shift to a new currency, train police, military and PMCs to better them for if the government is unable to pull off a miracle. Of course they can't walk on water, so the problem is inevitable.

People laugh at those who prepare for such things. I say laugh it up. If you guys knew anything about world history, you will see that countries do fall, and it's almost always due to their financial system. The USA is not too big to fail. If you think that, any of you, you really need to study GLOBAL economics and world history.

Zorgman

They will just have to add more tubes to speed up the internet. right?

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TheDoc

We aren't in a depression.. it's simple to say numbers make it appear we have lost things near the level of the depression, but we are still generating money as a country, corporations, the people, etc.

It's fun to think banks failing is something new... well it is new to our current medias lips, but as history shows it's far from new, it has happened every year for 30+ years, and almost every year for a 100 years.

Several Super Corporations have failed many times in my life time.. This is even more frequent than banks.


I know the national debt confuses people, it's a big number and hard to understand.. but this should help.


Note the run-up in debt starting in 1942. That's equivalent to $10 trillion today. That pulled the economy out of the great depression and into high gear to win World War II.

For the money to devalue it has to actually be in the economy, not just printed. Being that it has been a slow going process, and they are able to take money out of the economy as it cycles through.... which they have been doing. But no reason to get into details... the graph says it all.

I know it's hard to fathom, but we are already in extreme hyper inflation. Cars really don't cost $10,000's to make, TV's are worth $100's not $1000's.. we aren't set for hyper inflation, we are set for extreme rapid deflation to match us to the "majority" of the world.

Everything you think has fake value added to it because we all extremely over pay for a products that have been paid for 100x times by tons of different people, really hyper inflated everything. The fastest way to make people poor is to make everyones 'shit' worth millions and less, be worth, pennies.

Truly if anyone thinks our Country is headed towards failing to a rubble of nothing, truly... if they think this. And they stay here, they are far more crazy than the people that they claim ignore the truth.

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Hmmm nice little bump there for a war time profit machine. I wonder what we were producing back in the early 40's to do that? What are we producing now besides dollars? You're right about one thing thats for sure. Everything is inflated since the dollar isn;t even worth the paper it's printed on..

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bigdog577

I heard something about it getting slower around 2012, under some new legislation. They also will start charging more for sites outside of the basic package that you will be able to buy. There will be no more "OPEN" internet. You can find info about this on YOU TUBE. (Sorry, I don't have the link offhand right now).

tigermtb

The reason why internet is slow in the US is because of its own network.
The internet is a world-wide network.

Japan has 100mbps internet (I think?). They developed it, they implemented it. Unsure if it was public or private enterprise. So internet within Japan is freakin-fast. But, people inside Japan connecting to US-based websites would find connection speed much slower to those websites.

Regardless... slowness of US internet has everything to do with profits:

Capitalism isn't about being the best or doing what's right, its about making money. If communication companies can save money by using slower, cheaper equipment, they will do it to keep their profits. US isn't Japan, its extremely expensive to implement the same technology here.

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I've been hearing this since the mid 1990s. What some people don't seem to
understand is that there is still a bunch of dark fiber laying around - unused fiber
optic backbone lines just waiting to be needed. In the nineties, telcos and others
built their internet capability based on the assumption that the internet growth would
continue at that rate. When we launched the first live video with sound in 1998,
they figured within a few years most sites would be streaming live video. Well, the
internet growth turned out to be a bubble that burst, and most sites are still primarily
text, with a logo and a few other images - just like in the nineties. So those fiber
lines they built based on anticipated demand are still sitting idle.

Also, around 2000 wavelength-division multiplexing standard came out commercially.
In the 1990s, a fiber optic cable carried a laser beam across the country and that was
the backbone. With wavelength-division multiplexing, that same fiber line can carry
up to 160 different colors of lasers, so that was built as a 10 Gbps line can now carry
1600 Gbps on that same piece of fiber. That means the backbone currently has
about 100 times the capacity it needs.

The limiting factor is what's called the "last mile". As mentioned above, some people
can get 30Mbps or close to it in their homes. FIOS advertises 25/15 Mbps and tested
100 Mbps home connections way back in 2007. That tells you that the backbone
can support 30 Mbps. What makes some people's connection slow is the connection
from their home or office to their ISP. Phone lines were only designed for 8Kbps,
with 2.7 Kbps being the minimum. That puts a limit on DSL speeds until every piece
of wire and other equipment is tested and possibly upgraded. Running a high speed
line into your city is one thing, and that's been done, but running high speed lines to
every house and office in the city is another. Verizon has started doing that with it's
FIOS last mile fiber service, and the cable companies are testing their networks and
upgrading as needed to bring tens of megabits to each home.

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