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ruff · 12-02-2009, 01:26 PM

Just got an email from Camsense. They are changing the rules.

To be considered an Active Affiliate, you must deliver at minimum five (5) qualified spenders per month to a CC Network site.

CamSense has the option to discontinue the payouts for your referred visitors who have become qualified spenders on a CC Network site upon your failure to meet the criteria for an Active Affiliate over a two (2) month period.

You are going to see a lot of this kind of thing with sponsors. The first monies they go after is the affiliates. When a sponsor starts putting qualifications on your participation it may be time to disengage.

dav3 · 12-02-2009, 01:33 PM

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I guess lifetime revshare really means, 'until we decide to change our TOS and squeeze you out'.

media · 12-02-2009, 02:56 PM

Thats pretty funny...

DVTimes · 12-02-2009, 03:22 PM

i got the email but never bothered to read it.

i bet loads of people have not.

thats realy not fair.

and they know a lot of people (like me) have banners on loads of sites due to promoting them over the years, so will not bother to remove (too much hassel).

And thats if they bothered to read the email.

I have been a big fan of theres too.

to be honest i am rather anoyed at this and feel a firm that i have been faithfuill to for years is treating me poorly.

DVTimes · 12-02-2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff

Just got an email from Camsense. They are changing the rules.

To be considered an Active Affiliate, you must deliver at minimum five (5) qualified spenders per month to a CC Network site.

CamSense has the option to discontinue the payouts for your referred visitors who have become qualified spenders on a CC Network site upon your failure to meet the criteria for an Active Affiliate over a two (2) month period.

You are going to see a lot of this kind of thing with sponsors. The first monies they go after is the affiliates. When a sponsor starts putting qualifications on your participation it may be time to disengage.

by the way did you not run a lot of proadult sites? if so did you get your cash in the end?

ruff · 12-02-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allanuk

by the way did you not run a lot of proadult sites? if so did you get your cash in the end?

No, I got ripped off. The players in that scheme just took everyone's money. And the main player is still going strong with a number of my sites still online. You might recognize the site V*****web.com. Same billing is there, just a name change.

DVTimes · 12-02-2009, 03:37 PM

CamSense new Terms&Conditions
01.12.2009
Effective 1 December, 2009, CamSense, the adult affiliate program of CC Network, has implemented some important changes to its terms & conditions. We encourage you to check out the full terms & conditions and please let us know any additional questions you have. Address your questions to [email protected] and we will get back to you promptly. We appreciate your partnership and look forward to a successful New Year with you.

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(2.1). An active affiliate ("Active Affiliate") of CamSense, the administrator of the affiliate programs for the CCNetwork of sites, for this purpose is:

One whose qualified spenders do not, in the aggregate, exceed chargebacks of 1 ½ % over a one (1) month period.
One who has complied with the CamSense Customer Identification requirements set forth herein within thirty (30) days after becoming an affiliate or within sixty (60) days from a request by CC Network for such compliance for existing affiliates.
One who delivers at minimum five (5) qualified spenders per month to a CC Network site,

(2.2). CamSense has the option to discontinue the payouts for your referred visitors who have become qualified spenders on a CC Network site upon your failure to meet the criteria for an Active Affiliate over a two (2) month period.

(2.3). Net spending shall mean the fees paid by the referred member to a CC Network site less refunds and chargebacks for such member, and chargeback fees and penalties assessed by the credit card associations against a CC Network merchant account caused by or resulting from, in whole or in part, excessive chargebacks by the members referred by you as a group.

(2.4). For Chathosts who also refer traffic through CamSense, the administrator of the affiliate programs for the CC Network, the following terms also apply:

If a visitor who is not a current qualified spender on one of the CC Network of sites (one who has not actively used a CC Network site within the past six months) uses your link to visit the CC Network of sites and then registers as a qualified spender, the referring Chathost is entitled to earn up to 30% on everything they spend on sessions with other Chathosts, provided that the Chathost continues to be an active Chathost.
An active Chathost of the CC Network of sites, for this purpose is: One who has conducted live video sessions on CamContacts.com or a CC Network site at least once within a sixty (60) day period, and who conforms to age verification and all other Chathost terms & conditions.

DVTimes · 12-02-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff

No, I got ripped off. The players in that scheme just took everyone's money. And the main player is still going strong with a number of my sites still online. You might recognize the site V*****web.com. Same billing is there, just a name change.

its such a shame.

i wonder why they did it, unless the cost of the serbvers was more than they were making but i would have though they were making enough.

real shame.

i know it was not the tech peoples fault. It seems so long ago. all the forum posts and servers crashing.

so loooong ago now.

rowan · 12-02-2009, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff

You are going to see a lot of this kind of thing with sponsors. The first monies they go after is the affiliates. When a sponsor starts putting qualifications on your participation it may be time to disengage.

Trouble is if you've built up a good member base you're stuffed: if you take a stand on principle and drop your links you could be losing a significant amount of future earnings. I've been sending traffic since 2003.

Agent 488 · 12-02-2009, 11:51 PM

sounds like a killer biz approach.

nice to see some companies not afraid to still innovate.

camchoice · 12-03-2009, 03:49 AM

We have been promoting camsense for a long time, in that time we build a nice returning rev share. With these terms it is almost impossible to stay an active affiliate. 1 shitty month and all that hard work would be gone...

This one is nice too, and you cannot control it :
One whose qualified spenders do not, in the aggregate, exceed chargebacks of 1½ % over a one (1) month period.
Did you ever run a camsite ? 1½% chargebacks in 1 month is very plausible !

12-02-2009, 01:26 PM	#1
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12-02-2009, 01:33 PM	#2
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12-02-2009, 02:56 PM	#3
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12-02-2009, 03:22 PM	#4
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	i got the email but never bothered to read it. i bet loads of people have not. thats realy not fair. and they know a lot of people (like me) have banners on loads of sites due to promoting them over the years, so will not bother to remove (too much hassel). And thats if they bothered to read the email. I have been a big fan of theres too. to be honest i am rather anoyed at this and feel a firm that i have been faithfuill to for years is treating me poorly. __________________ The Affiliate Program

12-02-2009, 03:37 PM	#7
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	CamSense new Terms&Conditions 01.12.2009 Effective 1 December, 2009, CamSense, the adult affiliate program of CC Network, has implemented some important changes to its terms & conditions. We encourage you to check out the full terms & conditions and please let us know any additional questions you have. Address your questions to [email protected] and we will get back to you promptly. We appreciate your partnership and look forward to a successful New Year with you. --------------- (2.1). An active affiliate ("Active Affiliate") of CamSense, the administrator of the affiliate programs for the CCNetwork of sites, for this purpose is: One whose qualified spenders do not, in the aggregate, exceed chargebacks of 1 ½ % over a one (1) month period. One who has complied with the CamSense Customer Identification requirements set forth herein within thirty (30) days after becoming an affiliate or within sixty (60) days from a request by CC Network for such compliance for existing affiliates. One who delivers at minimum five (5) qualified spenders per month to a CC Network site, (2.2). CamSense has the option to discontinue the payouts for your referred visitors who have become qualified spenders on a CC Network site upon your failure to meet the criteria for an Active Affiliate over a two (2) month period. (2.3). Net spending shall mean the fees paid by the referred member to a CC Network site less refunds and chargebacks for such member, and chargeback fees and penalties assessed by the credit card associations against a CC Network merchant account caused by or resulting from, in whole or in part, excessive chargebacks by the members referred by you as a group. (2.4). For Chathosts who also refer traffic through CamSense, the administrator of the affiliate programs for the CC Network, the following terms also apply: If a visitor who is not a current qualified spender on one of the CC Network of sites (one who has not actively used a CC Network site within the past six months) uses your link to visit the CC Network of sites and then registers as a qualified spender, the referring Chathost is entitled to earn up to 30% on everything they spend on sessions with other Chathosts, provided that the Chathost continues to be an active Chathost. An active Chathost of the CC Network of sites, for this purpose is: One who has conducted live video sessions on CamContacts.com or a CC Network site at least once within a sixty (60) day period, and who conforms to age verification and all other Chathost terms & conditions. __________________ The Affiliate Program

12-02-2009, 11:51 PM	#10
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	sounds like a killer biz approach. nice to see some companies not afraid to still innovate.

12-03-2009, 03:49 AM	#11
camchoice Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,267	We have been promoting camsense for a long time, in that time we build a nice returning rev share. With these terms it is almost impossible to stay an active affiliate. 1 shitty month and all that hard work would be gone... This one is nice too, and you cannot control it : One whose qualified spenders do not, in the aggregate, exceed chargebacks of 1½ % over a one (1) month period. Did you ever run a camsite ? 1½% chargebacks in 1 month is very plausible ! __________________ Free Porn Webcams