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Old 12-02-2009, 02:41 PM   #1
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State of the Industry Question. It will only take 10 secs + Hot Pic as Reward :)

Hi guys. Quick and easy poll. It's private so please answer honestly.

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i actually had a nifty little reply but decided against it...

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Old 12-02-2009, 02:47 PM   #5
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50/50 seems about right...
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i actually had a nifty little reply but decided against it...

oh..as usual, nice pic shap
AHHHH Bummer. How's it going?
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50/50 seems about right...
I would have thought 25% yes and 75% no. We'll see where it ends up. I'm surprised the recent news and happenings haven't been discussed here.
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I enjoyed the reward before answering the poll.
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:56 PM   #12
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AHHHH Bummer. How's it going?
not bad shap...gotta find a few to chat with you...just for shits and giggles...
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I would have thought 25% yes and 75% no. We'll see where it ends up. I'm surprised the recent news and happenings haven't been discussed here.
That's probably the real numbers but I figure on here about half that say they know, even on a anon poll, don't really know... lol
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I would have thought 25% yes and 75% no. We'll see where it ends up. I'm surprised the recent news and happenings haven't been discussed here.
Now that you bring it up, I'm curious too... Sucks for ICC-Cal.
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Now that you bring it up, I'm curious too... Sucks for ICC-Cal.
With what was happening it sounds like it sucks for the poor guys getting their cards banged.

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which 3rd party processors if any do business with them? or it's just merchant account owners?
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You talking about their huge fine and potential loss of clearing? Yah.. big ouch!
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You talking about their huge fine and potential loss of clearing? Yah.. big ouch!
Yep. I believe it is a definite loss of clearing rather than potential loss.
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which 3rd party processors if any do business with them? or it's just merchant account owners?
I believe just merchant account owners. Some big boys got burned heavy on this one.
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i cant believe the ftc has only slapped a few nutri companies on the wrist.. the whole acai berry thing has to be one of the greatest online frauds of all time..

i wonder what the long term impact on consumers will be.. but i guess as the saying goes "there's a sucker born every minute"
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With what was happening it sounds like it sucks for the poor guys getting their cards banged.
Will be interesting story to follow.
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i cant believe the ftc has only slapped a few nutri companies on the wrist.. the whole acai berry thing has to be one of the greatest online frauds of all time..

i wonder what the long term impact on consumers will be.. but i guess as the saying goes "there's a sucker born every minute"
I agree. I have to say the one positive thing about this is that this is a non adult product scamming people.
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Not to turn this into a political thread, but the Bush Express was responsible for that. The Republican party, really. They traditionally take a very hands off approach to how people run their businesses, and companies on the fringe get away with a lot when Republicans are in power.

The Democrats are consumer friendly. The Repubicans are business friendly, but this includes businesses skirting the law.

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Not to turn this into a political thread, but the Bush Express was responsible for that. The Republican party, really. They traditionally take a very hands off approach to how people run their businesses, and companies on the fringe get away with a lot when Republicans are in power.
This was all done in the past 8 months i believe.
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This was all done in the past 8 months i believe.
This is without doubt a direct impact from the tube sites

The fact that a picture is needed to get views to a business thread is kinda sad.
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The fact that a picture is needed to get views to a business thread is kinda sad.
I agree 100%.

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Not to turn this into a political thread, but the Bush Express was responsible for that. The Republican party, really. They traditionally take a very hands off approach to how people run their businesses, and companies on the fringe get away with a lot when Republicans are in power.

The Democrats are consumer friendly. The Repubicans are business friendly, but this includes businesses skirting the law.
This had nothing to do with US policy, it was all overseas...
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I'm kinda confused.

How does this affect the online porn industry in any great way? And how does it reflect that "State Of The Industry"? I'm capable of using Google and now know it's an Israeli Visa and was used a lot for pharmaceuticals, online gambling and porn. But I'm not sure how it affects me. Were you doing business with them and it affected you? Or was anybody on here doing biz with them? Our merchant account is still at Humboldt...guess we're the last ones who haven't moved it overseas yet.
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i would it explain it to you, but i am to busy staring at your glamour shot...

seriously uncle rico, i laugh every time i look at your avatar...
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i would it explain it to you, but i am to busy staring at your glamour shot...

seriously uncle rico, i laugh every time i look at your avatar...
Damn, and I didn't even have my make up on or my hair fixed for that shot.

That's my head cut out of the pic I took a few weeks ago sitting at my desk for the Dec. issue of AVN mag's Executive Suite article on me.

I was trying to look "serious" and "normal"
I guess it was an epic fail from what you're saying. I shoulda stuck to my usual Freddie Mercury look.
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i'm with robbie here - I really don't see how this effects me.........
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i'm assuming this is the Israeli processing company that was showing up at the last few shows i went to a couple years ago......
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The thread "When do you fart in a relationship" appears to be getting more replies. I think that sums up the state of our industry pretty well
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Damn, and I didn't even have my make up on or my hair fixed for that shot.

That's my head cut out of the pic I took a few weeks ago sitting at my desk for the Dec. issue of AVN mag's Executive Suite article on me.

I was trying to look "serious" and "normal"
I guess it was an epic fail from what you're saying. I shoulda stuck to my usual Freddie Mercury look.
in all honesty, i wish i would have met you back when i used to go to shows..

you seem like a cool guy, but that picture just reminds me of napolean dynomite...
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in all honesty, i wish i would have met you back when i used to go to shows..

you seem like a cool guy, but that picture just reminds me of napolean dynomite...
Man, come to Internext in Vegas.
If you come, that'll make three of us there. You, me, and Claudia-Marie. Don't know if anybody else will be there or not. But if you show up I'll "buy" you a drink at a sponsored free bar and call you "bro"
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Man, come to Internext in Vegas.
If you come, that'll make three of us there. You, me, and Claudia-Marie. Don't know if anybody else will be there or not. But if you show up I'll "buy" you a drink at a sponsored free bar and call you "bro"
if i ever go to another show, i will get a kilo of coke and bring you and claudia back to my suite and make it snow....

on second thought, thats probably why i dont go to shows anymore, especially in vegas...
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if i ever go to another show, i will get a kilo of coke and bring you and claudia back to my suite and make it snow....

on second thought, thats probably why i dont go to shows anymore, especially in vegas...
Don't worry, the coke is so shitty here I'm sure that there is no actual cocaine in it.
Luckily Claudia-Marie will get pyschologically high THINKING it's real and then it's anal all night long.
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Luckily Claudia-Marie will get pyschologically high THINKING it's real and then it's anal all night long.
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This had nothing to do with US policy, it was all overseas...
I didn't mean for it to sound like I thought Obama was behind it or something. I was moreso talking about the FTC's overall lack of interest with certain billing schemes in the US.
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I wasn't really up on ICC-CAL until yesterday. After reading an article posted on another board and talking to a few people, I was up to speed on it.

Like you Shap, I was amazed that more people weren't talking about it here. I guess it shows what this board is really being used for these days.
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Robbie and Sleazy why should this concern you? I'm not the best at communicating so I'll leave it to someone who is better at it and knows the situation.

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This is the one statement that will DEFINE 2009 in the Adult industry

"Bad apples, good apples, there aren't many apples left in the basket as far as banks"


I just amazes me that more people don't realize how huge this is. You have the largest high risk bank in the WORLD. Saying goodbye to 500+ million per month in processing. THIS IS HUGE!!!! You also have every other high risk bank in the world on NOTICE to not accept or be very careful who they take in as a new/existing client. Make no mistake ICC did not just wake up and decide they would stop making a TON of Money in high risk processing. They WERE FORCED to stop.

The one question nobody has brought up is will merchants get their last week+ of transactions wired to them. Will the bank hold them and their reserves for years to protect against losses. Will ISO just pocket the money and never pay the merchants. Time will tell but I think we will start hearing stories shortly just like the Ibill days just a lot more and Larger.

Anybody want to guess how many post per week we will see about Whatever program no paying.

Will rest assured that CCbill checks will continue to go out ON TIME just like they have for the last 10+ years.

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you should have asked this a month ago. with the people who know the game bringing the issues to the boards you will get more wannabes pretending they know the game and say yes.

i answered: it doesn't matter, unless someone stops the guy who fuxored all of this for us with this bank it will continue and other banks will fall. lol.
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Robbie and Sleazy why should this concern you? I'm not the best at communicating so I'll leave it to someone who is better at it and knows the situation.
i run mostly prepaid and I do affiliate mostly with CCbill....

it interests me - but on one level I'm actually happy to see some scams cleaned up....
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