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Old 12-03-2009, 01:34 PM   #1
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Obama shits on his voters once again

and wipes his ass with the Constitution.

Key components in the USA Patriot Act are set to expire at the end of the year, but President Barack Obama is seeking to extend them, reversing his stark opposition in the past to the same provisions.

"The president's reversal on Patriot Act reform is a major travesty," said Michelle Richardson, Legislative Counsel for the leading civil rights group ACLU, in an interview with Raw Story. "There have been many, many abuses of power in the last four years."

These three main aspects in question allow the government to acquire private information about civilians through warrantless wiretapping of phone calls and emails, as well as seizure of records from credit reporting companies, banks, internet service providers and libraries. Another component includes the loosening of conditions under which an individual can be accused of providing "material support" to terrorists.

In 2005, then-Senator Obama pledged to filibuster a Bush-sponsored bill that included several of these exact components, calling it "just plain wrong" in a Senate speech.

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/obamas-p...rlier-stances/
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Nobama wanted to end the was in afghan..so he sends in another 40k troops..

Way to end a war,

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Raw Story is a gay slant..

Read the story for yourself..
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sunse...9173895&page=1
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It's pointless for anyone to sit here and say "I told you so" because it doesn't really accomplish anything, but that is the reality of it. People were warned about this fucking puppet since the beginning of the primaries. It might as well still be Bush in office, same fucking people are pulling the strings of the frontman... maybe now some of you are starting to realize that.
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Nobama wanted to end the was in afghan..so he sends in another 40k troops..

Way to end a war,
No he didnt. He wanted more focus on Afghanistan. Yours is a strangely common misperception. I wonder where it's coming from.
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and wipes his ass with the Constitution.

Key components in the USA Patriot Act are set to expire at the end of the year, but President Barack Obama is seeking to extend them, reversing his stark opposition in the past to the same provisions.

"The president's reversal on Patriot Act reform is a major travesty," said Michelle Richardson, Legislative Counsel for the leading civil rights group ACLU, in an interview with Raw Story. "There have been many, many abuses of power in the last four years."

These three main aspects in question allow the government to acquire private information about civilians through warrantless wiretapping of phone calls and emails, as well as seizure of records from credit reporting companies, banks, internet service providers and libraries. Another component includes the loosening of conditions under which an individual can be accused of providing "material support" to terrorists.

In 2005, then-Senator Obama pledged to filibuster a Bush-sponsored bill that included several of these exact components, calling it "just plain wrong" in a Senate speech.

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/obamas-p...rlier-stances/
You must be braindead to have bought into Obama's "change" nonsense, just like most idiotic democrats. For every 1 thing Obama considers doing differently, the other 9 he does like Bush, except more intelligent and more covertly, and THAT I give him props for. He finally realized, or knew this whole time that "change" is impossible and "adapting" is the only logical move.
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It's pointless for anyone to sit here and say "I told you so" because it doesn't really accomplish anything, but that is the reality of it. People were warned about this fucking puppet since the beginning of the primaries. It might as well still be Bush in office, same fucking people are pulling the strings of the frontman... maybe now some of you are starting to realize that.
He never said he was going to remove the Act, he said he was going to make changes to it, which he did do that, parts that cover Americans rights.

You may want to read the article... and understand the general purpose of the Act is protection of our Nation, which is actually does do.
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so far I have been a strong supporter, but if he does this, he'll become another Bush and I'll join the "trash Obama train"
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You must be braindead to have bought into Obama's "change" nonsense, just like most idiotic democrats. For every 1 thing Obama considers doing differently, the other 9 he does like Bush, except more intelligent and more covertly, and THAT I give him props for. He finally realized, or knew this whole time that "change" is impossible and "adapting" is the only logical move.
You must not have read one post I've made in over a year.
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He never said he was going to remove the Act, he said he was going to make changes to it, which he did do that, parts that cover Americans rights.

You may want to read the article... and understand the general purpose of the Act is protection of our Nation, which is actually does do.
1 phone company.

Sprint: 50 million customers, 8 million law enforcement GPS requests in 1 year

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data/

How many "terrorists" do we have hiding out here?
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The guy is a complete fucking tool. And we have 3 more years of this shitbag!

"You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig"...very fitting words for him....
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Sprint: 50 million customers, 8 million law enforcement GPS requests in 1 year

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/12/gps-data/

How many "terrorists" do we have hiding out here?
That isn't bad for "law enforcement agencies" across our entire Country... That just shows how screwed up people are.

And they don't need the Patriot Act to do that...
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This guy just screams "liberals!" at everyone. Hes one strange guy. You at least make *some* sense. The funny thing is, if all of the "conservative" people say he is just like bush...why don't they like him?
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Anyone who is still all caught up in the 2-party-paradigm and being a "party-man" has a long way to go. They are the ones who still don't get it AT ALL....
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This guy just screams "liberals!" at everyone. Hes one strange guy. You at least make *some* sense. The funny thing is, if all of the "conservative" people say he is just like bush...why don't they like him?
I was railing against Bush just as much as I am Obama. The point is both Bush and Obama are one and the same. Nearly all of these "law makers" are working for the same thing. To pass "laws" > statutes to extract cash from us for the "corporation" and to give to their friends and family. That's it. There is no left or right. That's all BS to keep the people fighting with each other while they are picking our wallets. The agenda/business plan stays the same. Obama is just a CEO literally. And he takes orders from the investors. Congress and the house are board members.
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so far I have been a strong supporter, but if he does this, he'll become another Bush and I'll join the "trash Obama train"
Just be sure to read the second link to the actual news story instead of the blogged up version.

If Obama saved a baby from a passing train, I'm sure we'd all be up in arms over how lord Obama stepped in the way of Gods plan.
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So what will the nest presidential campaign from opposition run under? "REAL change"? lol
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I was railing against Bush just as much as I am Obama. The point is both Bush and Obama are one and the same. Nearly all of these "law makers" are working for the same thing. To pass "laws" > statutes to extract cash from us for the "corporation" and to give to their friends and family. That's it. There is no left or right. That's all BS to keep the people fighting with each other while they are picking our wallets. The agenda/business plan stays the same. Obama is just a CEO literally. And he takes orders from the investors. Congress and the house are board members.
That's dead on. No one has their eye on the ball, but instead they have their eyes on our wallets also freedoms for the right price....so to speak.
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Just be sure to read the second link to the actual news story instead of the blogged up version.

If Obama saved a baby from a passing train, I'm sure we'd all be up in arms over how lord Obama stepped in the way of Gods plan.
Plausible deniability. Obama can veto it.. In addition Democrats control both branches.. Just like the wars, now that they are in control it's on their watch. But since it's them doing it it's ok.. No lame excuses k?
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So what will the nest presidential campaign from opposition run under? "REAL change"? lol
"Real" change would be things like actually bringing all of our troops home and closing the ridiculous amounts of military bases that we have all around the world. Real change would be abolishing the Federal Reserve and putting the power to control our money back into the hands of the Congress and Treasury where it's supposed to be.

I really doubt we will get any "real" change any time soon though because the average American thinks the concept of getting rid of the Third Bank of the United States (The Federal Reserve) is absolutely ludicrous. Why is that? Because they don't know shit about the history of fractional reserve central banking and how it all works.
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"Real" change would be things like actually bringing all of our troops home and closing the ridiculous amounts of military bases that we have all around the world. Real change would be abolishing the Federal Reserve and putting the power to control our money back into the hands of the Congress and Treasury where it's supposed to be.

I really doubt we will get any "real" change any time soon though because the average American thinks the concept of getting rid of the Third Bank of the United States (The Federal Reserve) is absolutely ludicrous. Why is that? Because they don't know shit about the history of fractional reserve central banking and how it all works.
Treasury is a private corporation just like the Federal Reserve.
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"Real" change would be things like actually bringing all of our troops home and closing the ridiculous amounts of military bases that we have all around the world. Real change would be abolishing the Federal Reserve and putting the power to control our money back into the hands of the Congress and Treasury where it's supposed to be.

I really doubt we will get any "real" change any time soon though because the average American thinks the concept of getting rid of the Third Bank of the United States (The Federal Reserve) is absolutely ludicrous. Why is that? Because they don't know shit about the history of fractional reserve central banking and how it all works.
The shit you say is ludicrous... you simply repeat the dumb shit that you hear people say but it doesn't have any practical application in todays world... you can fool yourself all you want...

As far as the rest of you gfy conservatives/libertarians... elections have consequences... if you really care about it you would do what I did and campaign for your candidate and donate funds. It's very easy to complain and bitch now and call other people names... you are couch pundits who talk a good game and do nothing.
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Yeah, we could have Sarah FUCKING Palin instead. That WOULD be the end of life as we know it.
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The shit you say is ludicrous... you simply repeat the dumb shit that you hear people say but it doesn't have any practical application in todays world... you can fool yourself all you want...

As far as the rest of you gfy conservatives/libertarians... elections have consequences... if you really care about it you would do what I did and campaign for your candidate and donate funds. It's very easy to complain and bitch now and call other people names... you are couch pundits who talk a good game and do nothing.
The major difference between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives go to town hall meetings and scream at their representatives while liberals sit on their couches and scream at their TV sets.
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b-b-b--b-b-b-but bush!!!!

lol..

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Yeah, we could have Sarah FUCKING Palin instead. That WOULD be the end of life as we know it.
That was part of the show. They never intended on those two getting in and thats why they did that shit. Also why she got pissed when she figured out she was a pawn in a game of chess.
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The shit you say is ludicrous... you simply repeat the dumb shit that you hear people say but it doesn't have any practical application in todays world... you can fool yourself all you want...

As far as the rest of you gfy conservatives/libertarians... elections have consequences... if you really care about it you would do what I did and campaign for your candidate and donate funds. It's very easy to complain and bitch now and call other people names... you are couch pundits who talk a good game and do nothing.
Doesn't have any practical application in today's world? lol, okay so what should we do then? Continue to let international bankers control our country through the privately owned central bank? Great idea!
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this shit started 8 years ago bush made a damn mess the shit he made will last decades
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this shit started 8 years ago bush made a damn mess the shit he made will last decades
At least 100 years ago. It's been a con job ever since.
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This guy just screams "liberals!" at everyone. Hes one strange guy. You at least make *some* sense. The funny thing is, if all of the "conservative" people say he is just like bush...why don't they like him?
I just scream "liberals"? It's not surprising that you can't seem to follow a conversation. And conservatives love his foreign military policies, his removing the ICBMs from Poland and putting them facing Iran, and his "secret" support of Israel. Like I said, he's doing everything Bush was doing over there, but in a smarter fashion. In terms of economics though, this guy knows dick.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:53 PM   #40
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"Real" change would be things like actually bringing all of our troops home and closing the ridiculous amounts of military bases that we have all around the world. Real change would be abolishing the Federal Reserve and putting the power to control our money back into the hands of the Congress and Treasury where it's supposed to be.

I really doubt we will get any "real" change any time soon though because the average American thinks the concept of getting rid of the Third Bank of the United States (The Federal Reserve) is absolutely ludicrous. Why is that? Because they don't know shit about the history of fractional reserve central banking and how it all works.
I agree about getting rid of the FED, but the other stuff isn't realistic in any sense of the word.
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:54 PM   #41
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this shit started 8 years ago bush made a damn mess the shit he made will last decades
And Obama is on his way to making Bush's mess look like nothing in just under a year.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:44 PM   #42
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I just scream "liberals"? It's not surprising that you can't seem to follow a conversation. And conservatives love his foreign military policies, his removing the ICBMs from Poland and putting them facing Iran, and his "secret" support of Israel. Like I said, he's doing everything Bush was doing over there, but in a smarter fashion. In terms of economics though, this guy knows dick.
you use the term liberal like rednecks use the term n igger. just look at your little pictures. you are obsessed. me thinks you have some personal issues you are in denial about.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:51 PM   #43
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The shit you say is ludicrous... you simply repeat the dumb shit that you hear people say but it doesn't have any practical application in todays world... you can fool yourself all you want...
I am in agreement with you for the first and likely only time.
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And Obama is on his way to making Bush's mess look like nothing in just under a year.
wtf could he do worse than bush invading multiple countries and sending troops into countries without permission
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:07 PM   #45
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wtf could he do worse than bush invading multiple countries and sending troops into countries without permission
Inflating the money supply by 120%
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Inflating the money supply by 120%
You may want to actually look up the numbers yourself, then pay close attention to the dates.
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Old 12-03-2009, 08:21 PM   #47
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in 2006 they promised change and we got a dem controled house and senate, shortly after everything went to shit, Obama only promised change, he didn't really promise anything else but sending troops to aftganistan, he's doing that, so why are you bitching? SARCASM!
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Ha, Jay Leno just joked that Obama might be the best Republican president in a long time.


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I'm loving the SNL skits lol The ROCK Obama
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well same thing happened in 94, everyone got pissed at Clinton and the GOP got the house and the senate, love NEWT!
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