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Holy shit... goodbye privacy
The EU is currently working on Project INDECT. A system intended to do the following:
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They want to create an automated system that gathers all data it can find on the internet and combine it with all data from security cams and such. In other words, a system that tries to gather and combine all possible data on you and continuously keep an eye on you - 24/7 surveillance, online and offline, for everyone.
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face to face communication and cash transactions.
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CCTV cams in all major cities, security cams in stores, product codes being registered during sales.
Keep in mind: systems like the one I mentioned include face recognition features, meaning a cam just has to spot you for you to be identified.
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big brother is watching you
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Say goodbye to privacy and say hello to - voyeurism.
It's going to be a world wide voyeurism where people get spied on by cams on the streets. Obviously celebrities, beautiful people and pornstars will get the most attention. Dying bums that are dying, starving and freezing on the streets will be left to die like always. And nobody will give a shit even if 1,000 eyes are staring at them. Example: here are some bums in New York: (I took both of these photos myself on Sept. 29, 2009) ![]() ![]()
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It's just like we saw in the scifi movies 15 years ago...
kinda reminds of the movie "Demolition Man" (I think?)...
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yep
1984. We are almost there.. ![]() "Each vehicle will be equipped with a GPS device that tracks how many kilometres are driven and when and where. This data will be then be sent to a collection agency that will send out the bill," the transport ministry said in a statement. http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20091113...ortenvironment EU funding 'Orwellian' artificial intelligence plan to monitor public for "abnormal behaviour" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...behaviour.html http://www.indect-project.eu/ |
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not in my house .... yet.
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Looks like the government is working to track everything.
Spying and watching is easy. Taking action - that's the hard part.
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What worries me most, however, is not what current governments will do with these data and systems. They may not respect our privacy, but their intentions are (mostly) good - to prevent crime and terrorism. But what about 50 years from now? The world population will have grown about 50% by that time and a number of key resources (including oil) are likely to be mostly depleted by then. That's a surefire recipe for a major global crisis on a scale never seen before, and it pretty much ensures that a number of new dictatorships and tyrannies will arise. What would Stalinism or fascism be like when the government has virtually unlimited technological means of observing its citizens? The world might find out before the end of this century...
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And here I thought Google Street View was bad.
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This is like all those "future" movies, but without any of the additional coolness like crazy advanced and automated technology.
I feel jipped by not getting that but getting this advanced monitoring system. They need to release some awesome "Futuristic" tech and systems to go along with this and I'd be able to accept it a bit better!
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That system went into effect a few years ago now. But I remember reading about it clearly as the ability of the system blew my mind. |
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Big brother wants to know everything you're doing
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That dutch 'green levy' is interesting... but keep in mind the country is extremely small.
The Big Brother thing has been portrayed in so many movies, books, etc I think people have almost accepted the idea. I agree there's a fine line between protecting kids (and adults for that matter) against everything -- but when does it become invasion of privacy, who knows. Its like Google storing everything you ever search for... collectively a profile of "you" that could be embarassingly dangerous depending on how much midget porn you're looking up. Then there's the facial recognition software .. tagging on facebook.. things like that. Will be possible to do a search and pull up all kinds of photos of you -- that other people took and you have no knowledge of. This stuff is already active, its just a matter of putting it all together that's scary. |
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BB can suckle on mah satchel.
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I read somewhere they are almost ready with an app for your phone that will let you snap a picture with your camera phone and by face recognition it will give you all the available information on that person.
So let's think of all the negative and positive possibilities |
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having google run its own browser & dns gives me similar concerns
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Hmm
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They just want to make sure you get all the vaccines. Thats all. Its all for the "greater good" you know..
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Browser, DNS, Phone, .... all their acquisitions are leading somewhere. It makes me uneasy.
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One of my conspiracy nut friends is convinced that Google is a gov't conspiracy.
As for the original topic, haven't some of these technologies been used since 9/11?
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Yeah, where the fuck are our flying cars and robot servants?
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Don't forget that if you have a cell phone the carrier can easily track you. It doesn't need to be making calls, nor does it need an inbuilt GPS, just needs to be switched on and communicating with towers in order to get the best signal.
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ehm ... PATRIOT ACT?!
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oh snaaaaap
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If you listen to this without sound and then try to do obscene voiceovers, it can get really funny.
I love this avatar - she's hot.
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Google demonstrates quantum computer image search
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...ge-search.html
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![]() While we're at it what do you think mobile phones do? You have a tracking system with you 24/7, payed money for it and are complaining about a computer watching your wife take a shower?
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Yeah just wait until they add in all the cameras in cell phones and start turning them on without you even knowing.
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Not to downplay the seriousness of this but we are doomed.
We are already under almost constant surveillance and it will expand to total with time. That movie is an underrated classic btw
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i dont' do anything in public that i wouldn't want them to video.
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and a tin foil hat.
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And if you wouldn't mind those things being recorded... what about if you were a politician, running for office against the party in power right now? Would you mind things like that "accidentally" surfacing? The problem with data aggregation is that every tiny mistake you ever made in a public place, whether virtual or real, is linked to you. Make out with some slutty chick at age 20, and 40 years later it will still be in your "file", there to be found with just a simple search.
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Soon a person could be sitting at a bar, spot someone interesting down the line, capture the person's image on their phone and run it through an app. Up pops all the personal information available from a variety of sources about that person. With a few clicks you could find out that person's employment history, medical history, relationship history, criminal history along with a multitude of information people normally wish to keep private.
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"It is often said that if you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear. However, this is only true if every aspect of the criminal justice system works perfectly, on every occasion. INDECT will provide EU Member States with the technology to ensure that decisions around public safety are based on the maximum amount of relevant information available." Basically, they inform us that they need to know everything about us in order to prevent them from accidentally wrongly using information against us. "We can make mistakes, so we need more power." What they conveniently fail to mention is that more power leads to the possibility of larger consequences when that power is abused. In a sense, it even implies a threat: if you don't give up all your privacy, you might just become the victim of miscarriages of justice.
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Shit is happening right now before our eyes
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