End of the year tip to paysite owners - GoFuckYourself.com

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 11:08 AM

I guarantee you this change will help you generate way more signups, but I understand because this change involves some work you will tend to want to find excuses why I am wrong.

Plain and simple stop giving surfers the names of the stars featured in your sets. Most tours use the same format and that is telling the surfer ?Lexi bell and Bridget B?.?. What you just did is send a massive amount of traffic to google etc. with the keywords:

Lexi bell
Free lexi bell videos
Bridget b movies
Etc etc

For the surfers that know its lexi bell they don?t give a fuck they know, for those who don?t know lexi bell they wont join because you said lexi bell, so whats the point?

Now your saying ?but by posting their names ill get more SE hits? well sweet fucking dreams, you are not coming up for any pornstar names on page one anyway and if you come up even for position 3 it wont matter as the big sites in position one and two have a zillion galleries to keep your surfer happy and busy.

For 2+ years I have been doing my tours like this, I have seen a serious increase in joins. I do see some non-members with balls emailing me stuff like ?hey the girl in this weeks update wearing the blue fishnets, whats her name?. Now we all know why hes asking her name, its not because hes looking to mail her money.

Enjoy and happy holidays people!

Les Grossman · 12-24-2009, 11:33 AM

Interesting.

I have to ask though, what about girls who are not famous. True amateur girls, never seen before. Do you think it matters then?

Zuzana Designs · 12-24-2009, 11:37 AM

Great advice. So do you just give the models "fake names" ?

Tanker · 12-24-2009, 11:41 AM

don't use any name

that's the point if there is a name then they go straight to google and you lost them!

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 11:41 AM

When you correctly research your phrases for terms people actually search for you can capture a much larger group of traffic through long tail keywords, and when you actually research them, you can easily take #1 on a vast amount of phrases people search for daily.

The loss to people going out and looking for the phrase, wouldn't cancel out the gain from using correct ones.

You're also talking tours... Your affiliates can use tours without names if you like.

datatank · 12-24-2009, 11:42 AM

good advise for sure

datatank · 12-24-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

When you correctly research your phrases for terms people actually search for you can capture a much larger group of traffic through long tail keywords, and when you actually research them, you can easily take #1 on a vast amount of phrases people search for daily.

Hello
What does that have to do with what Mr Eb posted?

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by datatank

Hello
What does that have to do with what Mr Eb posted?

Well, if you do 10k hits a day, and you remove some shit and do 9k hits a day, your ratios get better and your sales may not have slipped.

When you do research correctly, you can take 10k hits a day to 50k hits a day.

Is anyone here going to argue that removing 40k hits a day is smart because you think people may leave your site?

No, of course not...

Bhunter · 12-24-2009, 11:47 AM

It makes some sense

Thanks for the tip.

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Les Grossman

Interesting.

I have to ask though, what about girls who are not famous. True amateur girls, never seen before. Do you think it matters then?

do not give them a reason to leave or go to google, so either first name only or no name

Va2k · 12-24-2009, 11:49 AM

Awesome info Eb, Merry Christmas.

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Well, if you do 10k hits a day, and you remove some shit and do 9k hits a day, your ratios get better and your sales may not have slipped.

When you do research correctly, you can take 10k hits a day to 50k hits a day.

Is anyone here going to argue that removing 40k hits a day is smart because you think people may leave your site?

No, of course not...

sorry you make no sense, I tried to understand what you are saying but I cant, my advise is tried and tested.

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fungus

Awesome info Eb, Merry Christmas.

merry xmas to you and your family mr T

Robbie · 12-24-2009, 11:53 AM

Good tip for most paysites. Especially the myriad of paysites who put their shit on autopilot and the owner has no "hands on" input at all. 99.99% of the sites out there can definitely profit from this advice.

The other .01% (or as I like to call them the "real" guys) will find ways to monetize what they do. Including making sure that their text is written in such a way to ensure they are sitting at the top of any search for the text that grabs the attention...whether it be a name or a phrase.

LickMyBalls · 12-24-2009, 11:55 AM

Didn't you mention you had some "interesting" reviews coming out on livereviews.com around Christmas time?

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

do not give them a reason to leave or go to google, so either first name only or no name

What kind of ratio and amount of sales would you need to see to disprove this theory of yours?

I have MANY sites doing 30 through 100+ sales a day, with model names on every single tour.. with ratios under 1:300... are you going to tell me if I remove my model names, which instantly drop 1,000's of quality se hits daily, hell hourly, per tour...

That my ratios will improve and my sales won't drop, when the majority of type-ins are SE sales?

Sorry, I don't think you know how to actually market on the search engines.. not trying to slam you, but you're game is dating, not search engines.

Roald · 12-24-2009, 11:56 AM

Merry Xmas ;)))

JustDaveXxx · 12-24-2009, 11:57 AM

WOW!! Thats a serious Xmas gift from a very successful hands on program owner who tests everything he does with his own money.

No theories, no maybes, no ifs, ands or butts, EB has learned this by doing this.

Roald · 12-24-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

What kind of ratio and amount of sales would you need to see to disprove this theory of yours?

I have MANY sites doing 30 through 100+ sales a day, with model names on every single tour.. with ratios under 1:300... are you going to tell me if I remove my model names, which instantly drop 1,000's of quality se hits daily, hell hourly, per tour...

That my ratios will improve and my sales won't drop, when the majority of type-ins are SE sales?

Sorry, I don't think you know how to actually market on the search engines.. not trying to slam you, but you're game is dating, not search engines.

Doesn't it all depend on where the traffic is coming from in the first place?

datatank · 12-24-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

What kind of ratio and amount of sales would you need to see to disprove this theory of yours?

I have MANY sites doing 30 through 100+ sales a day, with model names on every single tour.. with ratios under 1:300... are you going to tell me if I remove my model names, which instantly drop 1,000's of quality se hits daily, hell hourly, per tour...

That my ratios will improve and my sales won't drop, when the majority of type-ins are SE sales?

Sorry, I don't think you know how to actually market on the search engines.. not trying to slam you, but you're game is dating, not search engines.

How many total sales a day are you doing now days?
"Many" sites doing 30-100 sales a day?

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Doesn't it all depend on where the traffic is coming from in the first place?

I would say it depends on how much traffic you get, then from the places. Yeah if you get listed on a bunch of "Free" terms for a paysite, it's going to suck... but that doesn't happen.

All a paysite needs is more, more, and more... if you send me more traffic, I promise you I will make more sales.

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

What kind of ratio and amount of sales would you need to see to disprove this theory of yours?

I have MANY sites doing 30 through 100+ sales a day, with model names on every single tour.. with ratios under 1:300... are you going to tell me if I remove my model names, which instantly drop 1,000's of quality se hits daily, hell hourly, per tour...

That my ratios will improve and my sales won't drop, when the majority of type-ins are SE sales?

Sorry, I don't think you know how to actually market on the search engines.. not trying to slam you, but you're game is dating, not search engines.

are you joking?

I can post quality keywords im listed in top 3, and in most cases many of sites I personaly own are listed many times within the top 10 of those for good keywords (good for exactly the niche im in) like "spanking videos" or "ass licking" to 1000's of other keywords, as far as dating goes, I didn't shoot over 4000 exclusive movies for dating sites, its for my paysites that I have been running for many many years.

Again if you get 100 joins now and you have model names on the tour, and you are like 99.9% of paysite owners that dont get SE hits off model names, yes REMOVING those will be removing a SERIOUS traffic leak.

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

How many total sales a day are you doing now days?
"Many" sites doing 30-100 sales a day?

Depending on the day, the promo, combined interests, 100's of them daily... I'm in a totally different game than 99% of you, I'm not here to say I'm better/bigger, because I know I'm not.

I have given out advice for years... I just don't want people to think "this" is the answer to making more sales, it's not.. period, point, blank..

You want more sales, take more action - period!

Roald · 12-24-2009, 12:12 PM

so, when we put up a link for lets say Brazzers, they see Shyla Stylez on the tour, they do a seach in Google and they clicks the 1st result coming right back to us......is that what you call a circle jerk?

lol

Basic_man · 12-24-2009, 12:12 PM

This comment really make sense.

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

so, when we put up a link for lets say Brazzers, they see Shyla Stylez on the tour, they do a seach in Google and they clicks the 1st result coming right back to us......is that what you call a circle jerk?

lol

Aye, in the reverse, your size creates new search volume on models all the time. Including misspells, typo's, and phrases like: Where can I buy XXX model DVD's..

If you can't get a sale out of that, you don't have a page up.

datatank · 12-24-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Depending combined interests, 100's of them daily..

Are you including topbucks and what not?

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Depending on the day, the promo, combined interests, 100's of them daily... I'm in a totally different game than 99% of you, I'm not here to say I'm better/bigger, because I know I'm not.

I have given out advice for years... I just don't want people to think "this" is the answer to making more sales, it's not.. period, point, blank..

You want more sales, take more action - period!

this is taking action, fixing your tours exactly

you simply have a problem agreeing with anything, but you need to put your bad habits aside, and sometimes see things for how they are

GrouchyAdmin · 12-24-2009, 12:15 PM

If you want to keep from saturating your niche, best to not mention it at all. Then, only those "in the know" will come through and your ratios will be amazing.

Really.

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

Are you including topbucks and what not?

Umm... I don't work for TB

and I think my numbers would be a tad big larger.

Barefootsies · 12-24-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

What kind of ratio and amount of sales would you need to see to disprove this theory of yours?

TheDoc enjoys these threads and challenges.

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 12:17 PM

http://thedocblog.com/about

you might want to update that

BFT3K · 12-24-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

If you want to keep from saturating your niche, best to not mention it at all. Then, only those "in the know" will come through and your ratios will be amazing.

Really.

Exactly - traffic is overrated!

Good advice!

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

this is taking action, fixing your tours exactly

you simply have a problem agreeing with anything, but you need to put your bad habits aside, and sometimes see things for how they are

Roughly 12 years my program opened the first mulit-tour paysites... Yep, I started it.

I have been split testing paysite tours, 100's of them, if not about 1000, for that many years.

I'm sorry, my experience with this greatly out ways yours.

Barefootsies · 12-24-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I'm sorry, my experience with this greatly out ways yours.

.... and it TheDoc has a fault, which he clearly doesn't, it would be modesty.

BFT3K · 12-24-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Roughly 12 years my program opened the first mulit-tour paysites... Yep, I started it.

I have been split testing paysite tours, 100's of them, if not about 1000, for that many years.

I'm sorry, my experience with this greatly out ways yours.

Although I am 100% onboard with the Doc on this one, I hope the advice of the OP is taken by everyone else. Less competition with searchable model names is a great idea!

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

.... and it TheDoc has a fault, which he clearly doesn't, it would be modesty.

Says the man doing a handful of sales a day VS. the man that has helped people make tons of money in this Industry.

You're an odd stubby stalker, all I can say.

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Roughly 12 years my program opened the first mulit-tour paysites... Yep, I started it.

I have been split testing paysite tours, 100's of them, if not about 1000, for that many years.

I'm sorry, my experience with this greatly out ways yours.

my daddy is stronger than yours

you sound like a baby

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Although I am 100% onboard with the Doc on this one, I hope the advice of the OP is taken by everyone else. Less competition with searchable model names is a great idea!

Thanks

I like competition though, lets me know the market is making money and I can take my part of the pie.

But if everyone dropped of the engines today, but me... man I would be damn happy the competition just left!

Barefootsies · 12-24-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Says the man doing a handful of sales a day VS. the man that has helped people make tons of money in this Industry.

*shrug*

Funny how elitists take things so personal from their mountain top.

I would have thought that someone so established and great could take a little humor. Since I was simply kidding around in the first place. Guess not. Oh well.

Carry on.

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

my daddy is stronger than yours

you sound like a baby

Oh so you can be solid in your beliefs, because you have tested it... and others can't?

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

this is taking action, fixing your tours exactly

you simply have a problem agreeing with anything, but you need to put your bad habits aside, and sometimes see things for how they are

I agree with people all the time here... you must just say that much stupid shit.

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Oh so you can be solid in your beliefs, because you have tested it... and others can't?

I agree with people all the time here... you must just say that much stupid shit.

this is common sense but like I said this has been something I been doing for years, I figured ill share it with others

again you do this is most threads where there is any business talk, you didnt upgrade with times you where forced to sell off your shit including you shit domains that you where asking lots of money for, next time adapt

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

*shrug*

Funny how elitists take things so personal from their mountain top.

I would have thought that someone so established and great could take a little humor. Since I was simply kidding around in the first place. Guess not. Oh well.

Carry on.

You didn't come at me with your comment about "modesty?" if not, sorry... but when a man is being attacked that is trying to "help others avoid a possible mistake" I would hope, hope, hope... someone stands up and says, NO - This isn't right..

I want people to make money, grow, and be here tomorrow.. You can't "gain" from engines if you fight them. They are a MASSIVE source of sales, and should be exploited fully for that potential.

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

this is common sense but like I said this has been something I been doing for years, I figured ill share it with others

again you do this is most threads where there is any business talk, you didnt upgrade with times you where forced to sell off your shit including you shit domains that you where asking lots of money for, next time adapt

I did, I sold off the "shit" that I didn't want and kept the shit I liked..

You haven't ever sold stuff off? Amazing...

datatank · 12-24-2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Umm... I don't work for TB

and I think my numbers would be a tad big larger.

consult . Whatever we call it now days hehe.
Who knows numbers now days. Id be suprised if they did 500 reg sales a day

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

You didn't come at me with your comment about "modesty?" if not, sorry... but when a man is being attacked that is trying to "help others avoid a possible mistake" I would hope, hope, hope... someone stands up and says, NO - This isn't right..

I want people to make money, grow, and be here tomorrow.. You can't "gain" from engines if you fight them. They are a MASSIVE source of sales, and should be exploited fully for that potential.

again you also think that tubes help everyone in this business,

you dont understand the basics anymore its sad, once upon a time you where up on your game thou

EscortBiz · 12-24-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I did, I sold off the "shit" that I didn't want and kept the shit I liked..

You haven't ever sold stuff off? Amazing...

you do have shit these days i agree, and to help others you sold them shit

thanks

Barefootsies · 12-24-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

You didn't come at me with your comment about "modesty?"

That was a joke. Ya know. Humor?

Sounds like you were on the defensive in this thread, and with EB, and simply took my kidding as some sort of personal attack on you. Which was not the intent.

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by datatank

consult . Whatever we call it now days hehe.
Who knows numbers now days. Id be suprised if they did 500 reg sales a day

I don't consult for TB. I don't recall me ever being under contract with them. BUT, I have helped them make millions in extra income.

TheDoc · 12-24-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

again you also think that tubes help everyone in this business,

you dont understand the basics anymore its sad, once upon a time you where up on your game thou

Tubes do help... Piracy can be argued if it helps or not.

12-24-2009, 11:37 AM	#3
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12-24-2009, 11:41 AM	#4
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12-24-2009, 11:41 AM	#5
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	When you correctly research your phrases for terms people actually search for you can capture a much larger group of traffic through long tail keywords, and when you actually research them, you can easily take #1 on a vast amount of phrases people search for daily. The loss to people going out and looking for the phrase, wouldn't cancel out the gain from using correct ones. You're also talking tours... Your affiliates can use tours without names if you like. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation Last edited by TheDoc; 12-24-2009 at 11:42 AM..

12-24-2009, 11:49 AM	#11
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12-24-2009, 11:53 AM	#14
Robbie Leaner, Meaner, Faster Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vegas Posts: 20,958	Good tip for most paysites. Especially the myriad of paysites who put their shit on autopilot and the owner has no "hands on" input at all. 99.99% of the sites out there can definitely profit from this advice. The other .01% (or as I like to call them the "real" guys) will find ways to monetize what they do. Including making sure that their text is written in such a way to ensure they are sitting at the top of any search for the text that grabs the attention...whether it be a name or a phrase. __________________ -Robbie ClaudiaMarie.Com

12-24-2009, 11:08 AM	#1
EscortBiz Fuck Checks, CASH only! Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 19,422	End of the year tip to paysite owners I guarantee you this change will help you generate way more signups, but I understand because this change involves some work you will tend to want to find excuses why I am wrong. Plain and simple stop giving surfers the names of the stars featured in your sets. Most tours use the same format and that is telling the surfer ?Lexi bell and Bridget B?.?. What you just did is send a massive amount of traffic to google etc. with the keywords: Lexi bell Free lexi bell videos Bridget b movies Etc etc For the surfers that know its lexi bell they don?t give a fuck they know, for those who don?t know lexi bell they wont join because you said lexi bell, so whats the point? Now your saying ?but by posting their names ill get more SE hits? well sweet fucking dreams, you are not coming up for any pornstar names on page one anyway and if you come up even for position 3 it wont matter as the big sites in position one and two have a zillion galleries to keep your surfer happy and busy. For 2+ years I have been doing my tours like this, I have seen a serious increase in joins. I do see some non-members with balls emailing me stuff like ?hey the girl in this weeks update wearing the blue fishnets, whats her name?. Now we all know why hes asking her name, its not because hes looking to mail her money. Enjoy and happy holidays people! __________________ Spanking, Medical Fetish, Sleeping, Strap-on Anal Lesbians, Girls Fucking Guys, Handjob site REAL HOT, Shemales, Anal and Ass Licking sites 100% Real EXCLUSIVE with amazing retention, ccbill payouts, lots of content FREE FTP HOSTING Promote the largest and oldest member paid escort site, Converts 10 times better then any dating site, CCBill payouts ICQ# 158802076

12-24-2009, 11:33 AM	#2
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12-24-2009, 11:42 AM	#6
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12-24-2009, 11:47 AM	#9
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12-24-2009, 11:55 AM	#15
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12-24-2009, 12:12 PM	#24
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12-24-2009, 12:15 PM	#29
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12-24-2009, 12:17 PM	#32
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