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DWB · 01-10-2010, 06:07 PM

51 HD cams. Ah, ah ahhhhhh!

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Originally Posted by weekly

80 per cent of movie audiences have no idea what a rack focus is, nor are they supposed to. Film making is supposed to be invisible. A good edit is invisible...some even to the trained eye. You do not want to break the plane and involve your audience in the process. These are all tricks and techniques used by the film maker to engage and suspend disbelief. The closer you can come to suspension of disbelief, the hornier your viewer will get and the more money he will spend. Its a basic rule of film,whether it is porn, documentary, feature film, or news.

All correct, none of that should be noticed, but I'm not going to cum any harder or faster because of camera wizardry.

Maybe I'm a simple meat and potatoes guy, but it's the girl and/or the fantasy that gets me off.

I can appreciate the art that goes into some porn and I am in awe of someone like Andrew Blake, but you can count guys like him on a few fingers, where it's art AND wankable. Everyone else trying to shoot high quality porn may shoot technically high quality video, but the fantasy is not there, it is not believable, it is not wankable, it does not make me cum, no matter how big it is, how clear it is, the treatment put on it or what camera it was shot on. I don't think I'm alone in this either, hence the unstoppable "amateur" niche.

Having said all of that, there is a nut for every bolt so keep on doing what you're doing so long as you can make a living at it.

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Originally Posted by weekly

I agree with the back end of your post. But think of the shit that the consumer would accept ten years ago, and look at what they demand today. In five years as this shit is being watched on tv's more and more,it will make a difference.
Personally, I don't give a shit if the whole lot of you shoot on these cheap cameras. It just helps clear the chaff as delivery systems improve and makes me look much better than I really am. So rock on. Maybe there are some great deals on 4 X 3 cameras. Hell the customers will never know the difference.

Oh, no doubt the consumer wants more these days. I don't disagree with that. But one thing hasn't change after all these years, and that is a guy in a dark room with his cock in his hand, looking for THE THING to get him off, whatever that "thing" is.

Sure, if you're shooting for Joon over at DP, you're gonna want to shoot the highest quality video you can shoot, and on a TV it looks great. Unless you really know what you're doing when it comes time to render it down for the net (and most people don't), it's going to end up losing a lot of quality. I think the key is, should you be trying to produce the highest possible quality, is to have someone who can shoot it in that manner as well as someone who can encode it properly. Otherwise the consumer may not get to see just how great your footage really is.

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Originally Posted by fmltube

No but for those of who actually care about what we are shooting and offer higher end vidz, these things are appreciated. That's what separates the Andrew Blakes from the John Doe's of the world. Some are looking to bring a bit of artistry to what we shoot as opposed to making the same looking shit that everyone else does.

I don't disagree with you at all. But like I said, you can count the Andrew Blakes in this industry on a few fingers. I'm here to get paid. If I wanted to make art, I wouldn't be in this business. Kudos to those of you who can pull it off, so long as it's wankable.

weekly · 01-10-2010, 11:54 PM

You guys are really missing the point. Its nothing to do with creating art or high end anything. Its about making money from images. Whatever makes you the most money is what you do. DWB its not about this...

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I'm not going to cum any harder or faster because of camera wizardry.

. Its about quality that will have long legs and make more money. We are not talking about a big investment here. I have seen tons of crappy quality porn that lots will jerk off to but it will not make anywhere near the return that the same scene shot by someone who is capable will. I can't verify that, but it is my gut instinct. This is not an discussion about art or hiring focus pullers. In fact, tossing in backlights and photoshopping would not be worthwhile to me. When I shoot, I shoot ten to twelve photosets and an hour or more of video every day. That ain't exactly high production value. My videos are virtually real time. Change of wardrobe takes longer than the photography. So I am damn sure not a prima dona. I grind it out like hamburger.

ilnjscb · 01-27-2010, 10:04 AM

Good points and I appreciate it - Roy is a great photographer so I understand his angle though I don't have his skill - I have to use the scene (amateur, "unscripted", interplay, pushing) as the draw. HD is awesome but if the camera doesn't focus well and doesn't work in various lighting, you lose out on numerous amateur opportunities. I have good recs for camera now.

JP-pornshooter · 01-27-2010, 11:29 AM

wow so much about noting...

for under $1k, you have one option: renting or buying well used equipment.

01-27-2010, 10:04 AM	#53
ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,799	Thanks for the help Good points and I appreciate it - Roy is a great photographer so I understand his angle though I don't have his skill - I have to use the scene (amateur, "unscripted", interplay, pushing) as the draw. HD is awesome but if the camera doesn't focus well and doesn't work in various lighting, you lose out on numerous amateur opportunities. I have good recs for camera now.

01-27-2010, 11:29 AM	#54
JP-pornshooter Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: westcoast usa Posts: 4,007	wow so much about noting... for under $1k, you have one option: renting or buying well used equipment. __________________ "Obscenity is whatever gives the Judge an erection." -- Author Unknown