SleazyDream

anyone know who SleazyBear is.....

heard the name on and off for a while but no idea who this is

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BradM

How do you know he is a scammer?

SleazyDream

cause i've had many people over the years come to me screaming about deals they made with him thinking it was me......

actually you're right - i don't know if he's a scammer, I believe he is....

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Chris

he worked/works for pond of nets

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Fat Panda

sleazydream is back

BradM

Ok just asking cause you've been flying off the handle saying you've never done anything to damage peoples reps, only if they truly are idiots etc but calling someone out as a scammer is serious so just want to be sure you know the implications. I think you have 1 hour to post proof?

SleazyDream

i think i did years ago but i never really found out who it was.............

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Chris

Hey Brad

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Chris

He's a good guy - never tried to be you as far as I could tell.

He ran things for NP with helping new people in the biz

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Sly

Is this going to be like the time you called out hahaha for running a MGP called Kimmy Thumbs because he infringed on the name of KimmyKim?

96ukssob

name sounds familiar... someone hit me up a while ago saying they were you offering to sell traffic, plugs, etc. i knew they were full of shit because they said they (you) live in the UK

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Klen

He was admin at net pond.That is all.

weekly

He did that? What is that all about?

chupachups

What??? Never heard that one

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SleazyDream

i did that?

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SleazyDream

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...1&postcount=90


sorry i went for dinner.... there's your proof.


scammer.

assuming that is sleazybear and not someone else using his name.....

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SleazyBear

Your funny as shit. You know who I am. You have been on my icq list for years.

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I guess now its like um I don't know you.. You are so full of shit..

Got anymore bullshit you want to throw out there?


For those that don't know me. I started in this biz around 1995. I am an se person. Everyone old school knows me. I posted on Ynot and Net@Pond helping webmasters and working with webmasters. I was around when Fantacyman and Serge had there great war on Ynot. I got my traffic from seach engines, still do. I learned a long time ago, you want to make money, make the search engines like a video game. While my friends was out beating video games I was beating search engines. After years of hard work, working 16 to 18 hour days. I sold eveything and pretty much retired. I made my money why stick around. Then about 6 months after I retired I was contacted to work for Net@Pond, I was bored it was only the Newbie board and 1 to 2 hours a day if that. I figured what the hell. When it came down to payment, I cut it by $500 from the origanal offer. I was still the highest paid board mod in the industry. I liked Net@Pond, I like helping newbies, it gave me something to do. I am not in this shit for the money anymore. The time I spend now working is to keep up to date to help webmasters. People have taken what I have taught them and made millions of dollars. When Net@Pond was crashing and not paying I wasn't worried, because they never paid me on time anyway, but it always came. It wasn't like I needed the money so I didn't care. I think at the end they was 7 or 8 months behind. I am still around, I read the boards mostly, just for something to do. But every time I see the word sleazy its me. I am the first and real sleazy. I didn't post a lot on gfy because I was under contract with Net@Pond. I did learn a hard leason from Net@Pond, never stick up for anyone in this business. No matter how well you know them or think you do. I got my ass handed to me on a platter. I am working on what I like to do best, help webmasters learn and be profitable. I am not using anyones name or board to do it either. Its just not my way.

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SleazyDream

ummm - i just checked my icq list- no sleazybear.................. are you under another name?

my name had nothing to do with you, and i've never done much in the se marketplace

i've heard the odd rumor about who you are, to be honest most weren't good....

if you asked a random 100 people who have in in this biz for 5+ years who Sleazy is.... i'm sure they would all say you.....

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Quagmire

He is your father.

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fatfoo

I heard this name mentioned on another webmaster forum. Must be some webmaster nickname.

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CunningStunt

I can't get the image of the fat fuck in his stripey shirt out of my head now, I wish that had never been posted.

weekly

Isn't it interesting how your opinion can change when you see a picture like that. It kinda startled me and my respect level dropped a lot. I just see someone who can't take care of business and can't take care of himself. I can't help it. Its not piss, its the truth.

ShellyCrash

Tip of the hat to you, sir. Nice

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xxweekxx

Sleazydream:
"i've been hearing stuff about this scammer called sleazybear for a while now...."

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you are such a hypocrite son. put me on the cross for suggesting you paid for your car cash, then you are over here calling someone a scammer with ZERO PROOF.. all u can defend it with is hear-say, which is not proof at all, cuz if it was then everyone will say anything they want and just say oh i heard it..

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BillyHoe

in 1995 you were an SE guru ?? Hmmm ok

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SleazyBear

Well dude your on mine, so you must of approved it at some time.

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xxweekxx

sleazy if i were you id show the mods this:

"i've been hearing stuff about this scammer called sleazybear for a while now...."

Then he'd have to show 100% proof or be banned..

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Sarah_Jayne

Sleazybear has always been a good guy to me. As has SleazyDream, actually.

Also, I have been in the industry for way more than 5 years and I can't be even close to being the only one that knows there is more than one 'sleazy'. If somebody mentions a 'sleazy' to you it fully depends on which board they visit on who they mean.

SleazyBear

No there really is a guy named SeGuru. Se's was simple then. Altavista loved an image and a domain name and a link out with an H1 header. Yahoo was a bit harder because of real people doing the listings, but Altavista fed Yahoo's listings, before google. Lycos was simple it liked words 250 words with a key weight of 2 to 4%. Then there was also what was called the engine back door. You wanted your site listed high in any of the engines, you gave it a third tier, now very much illegal as it will get you sued. But setting up a domain as yahoo.yourdomain.com was a way to get high in the listings. Then the killer came to pass, Dmoz. Dmoz was this little known engine, when Aol bought Netscape, Netscape had this search engine called Dmoz hand edited. Aol was all jumpy about it, they used it at search.aol.com. What they key there was make the editors happy, get listed, then when Aol picked it up do a server side and redirect the traffic straight to a sponsor. Dmoz would still this nice clean site, Aol surfers got jacked to a sponsor. Then some editors got greedy and started charging for listings and doing some other crap that they shouldn't of been doing. I had over 2000 listings with Dmoz and Aol. There was a little note on my monitor that said "Build for Dmoz, the money is in Dmoz.
Google uses a lot of the old stuff from the old engines. I have a bunch of sites using differnt stuff from the old engines that are listed in the top 10.

How I made my way to the pond back in the day was Dokk was giving an irc workshop on seach engines. Now there was a search engine master.

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AaronM

I'm not going to vouch for SleazyBear as I don't really know him very well but I will say that the few times I have met him, he was always polite and seemed willing to help anybody who asked.

I'll also add that a good friend of mine, who got me into this business full time, has always spoken very highly of his interactions with SleazyBear. Of the few others who have mentioned his name to me over the years, NOT ONE of them had anything bad to say.

SleazyBear

I am not into getting anyone banned, we both have a different opinion, I think. I never scammed anyone. I got caught up in a mess and was to loyal to people I believed in. It wasn't me that owes people a boat load of money. If you have the right person that knows what there doing, money in this biz flows like water. The problem now is that some of these paysite owners, and large site owners, don't have the skills needed to make sales. Things are getting harder to make sales, so the sites that are run by people with non skills are crashing hard. I have one site that is one of my smaller sites, gets around 1000 clicks a day, out of that 1000, 2 to 300 are clicking to the sponsor, out of those 2 to 300, I am pulling in 5 to 8 sales a day. Yes they are cam sales, yes some are repeat offenders. But the checks all clear the bank. I am old school and thats what I use is old school stuff. 1/4 and full page adds between content. Dhtml consoles. Html around images. A lot of folks started in this biz with bullshit rules. Tgp and link list rules. Screw that shit, when your traffic comes from somewhere other than those sites, sell the surfer, like your trying to fuck his sister.

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weekly

But, he did drag a lot of people straight into the gutter at net thingy knowing full well it was a total scam and going down the plug hole. He only got nice when the money ran out. that is pretty obvious.

Pleasurepays

you would have to be a complete retard to be online this long and not know who sleazybear is.

oh..

yeah...

nevermind...

weekly

Didn't you post a whole lot of shit about being broke? And you are the guy giving advice on how to make money? What is wrong with this picture? Old school was not really all that good. It was only good because that was all there was.

tonyparra

mr. sleazybear can you give me some tips? Im a sponge and all ears 494886007

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SleazyDream

i already linked to the proof....from his own statements..

i don't recall ever meeting the guy, only seeing every once in a while posts with him complaining about my name or someone else whinning they thought they were talking to me.....

you're the lying piece of shit dude..

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Sausage

Funny he asked the same thing about you when you came onto the net.

If you were at some of the older internexts you would have seen him there with the Nepond crew

SleazyDream

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...1&postcount=90

there's MORE proof .....

I'm going to be clear here son. You are now what I would consider an enemy.

I will find out who you are and repay your actions on here.

cowards who hide always get found. Humans are not capable of keeping secrets for long terms. Someone will rat you out.

sad - you got an enemy cause you wanted to look cool and rag on me...kinda shows who's the moron doesn't it?

xxweekxx - stop and read this carefully now. you can dance around and act all immune and safe all you want. I'm not joking about what I just said to you. There will be consequences. I've always been able to handle the shit trolls throw at me - so long as it doesn't cross a line. You crossed a line. There will be consequences for that and I'm patient and willing to wait years... but I will find out who you are and repay this debt I owe you now.

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SleazyDream

i didn't name myself Sleazy - actually it was RRRRed who first called me that.

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Oracle Porn

please seek some professional help, seriously, it will only do you good.

p.s. the "proof" you posted proves nothing.

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SleazyDream

to be honest I don't know much about SleazyBear.

As to the scammer comment - his OWN words "I do a bad enough job of tarnishing it these days don't need your help."

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...1&postcount=90

it's probally why I've heard some bad rhumors about him - reading what he's posted it looks like he's been pulled into some shit that spun out of control.

Happens - been there myself.

Honestly - I don't see sleazybear on my ICQ and I really don't delete people but I'm not saying icq doesn't fuck up sometimes.....

I take offense that I stole someone else's name. There was never any intent of that as I'm STILL not really sure 10 years later who SleazyBear is.....

I have no recollection of any conversation with him - not saying I haven't' ever talked to the man - just can't ever remember doing so. Maybe he was using a different alias?

and yes xxweekxx, you are still a lying piece of human garbage that I will deal with at some point in the future. Worry.

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MikeSmoke

Geez...and if Nicole shows up in the near future, ask HER if she knows Sleazy Bear as well.
As has already been said, anyone who's been around for a while and pays attention knows there are two Sleazys, in two different worlds that barely intersect.

This has got to be the biggest time-wasting thread of 2010 to date.

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SleazyBear

Nope sorry wasn't me. I have not been broke since 1995, second month I started in this biz. I wasn't really broke then. Not what I would consider really broke. I had a regular job this was a hobby. Back in 95 most webmasters would buy a domain $100 get hosting, then try to drive traffic to that site. I realized why try and drive traffic to one site when you could have more than one site to drive traffic to, your own network of sites.
If your going to post I said this or that in a post, be kind and show me the url to the post.

As far as the pond thing and me leading people down the road, yep I did do that. But when you work with 2 guys for so many years. Watch them shell out money like water at internext, hosting, domains and everything else they did for people. They was good guys. I never expected them to tank. It wasn't till after I left that some people got a hold of me and told me some facts I didn't know. If I would of known then what I know now, I would of left years ago. I still to this day, do not know the whole story. I did my job, did what I was told to do. I no longer trust anyone in this industry, its all about monitary gain to most. Me money isn't the most important thing in the world.

As far as the post of me doing link trades. Sorry I don't do link trades, don't sell traffic. Why should I, I have my own sites that interact with each other, my traffic is se traffic. Or I just send traffic straight to a sponsor. So thats bullshit from the get go.

Old school basics still works, its just rules have changed over the years. But try and teach webmasters that a site doesn't have to play by bullshit rules, when not getting traffic that requires those rules. Webmasters are so tied up these days with bookmarked surfers. I want a surfer to like my site, screw that, get them in get them to a sponsor, you don't make money with a surfer sitting at your site pounding his pud. One of the best sites I ever made was a site with 3 images. The first page was a normal looking free site index page. Second page was a picture, that was normal, third picture was messed up only half of it looked like it loaded. Third image only a quarter of it loaded. Under the image a text link, If this image does not load correctly click this link. Sure enough that site was 99% to a sponsor.

You want more traffic to a sponsor, don't load a image at the top of the page, have it linked but broken, you will increase your click on that banner, because the surfer wants to know where in the hell it goes. Cybererotica now Cecash had a banner at one time for webmaster that was like ASRDGFKF didn't mean jack shit, but surfers clicked on it just to find out what the hell it was and where it went.

Old school shit works just as good now as it did back then, because surfers have never seen it. You can have a million surfers a day, but if you don't know how to sell it, you have just that a million surfers a day.

I think I am done with this thread.. I see no reason to answer bullshit in the first place. My main intent was for webmasters to realize that SleazyBear was long before Sleazydream and the nick Sleazy was basicly stolen, why else would someone trademark a sleazy name if they didnt think that they was ripping something from someone.


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xxweekxx

stfu fat fuck.. you are going to cry because Eric owned you by not banning me? that must have pissed you off..

you think im scared of you? you are a fat fucking guy who prolly cant even run 500 feet, and you are broke.. i am fit, have cash, have great family/friends, no enemies, yeah, NO ENEMIES, and i mind my own business..

so fuck off, you can never get me or deal with me or crap.. go fuck yourself

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xxweekxx

ps u dont have to make e-threats, i'll give you money so you can fly down to where i am and kick my ass. lol you look scary mr sleaze-diesel.. mr tough guy

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Oracle Porn

buy me a ticket too so i could watch it all unfold and take pics

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xxweekxx

sure man.lol funny i am his arch enemy because i said he paid cash for his car then he tries to get me banned, and eric didnt ban me, so now he gets all pissed off and is making threats.. i am trembling and cant sleep anymore.. omg..

anyway i dont believe in violence.. havent been in a fight since i was like 5, but all i gotta do with him is run around in circles around 3-4 times and he'll pass out naturally from exhaustion.

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will76

What is your ICQ number, can I pick your brain with a couple questions ? If you don't mind.

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weekly

So you really want to look good tell us the facts. Everyone else has played dumb and let these guys run off with the money. People that post here still sell them traffic. So why don't you tell us what really happened.

weekly

I gotta say, sleazybear is edging out sleazydream on GFY at the moment. This is amazing to watch. Who woulda thunk it?