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Old 05-29-2005, 03:17 AM   #1
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How to make more than $10K in a month (for real)

1) Start by making free sites.... Shit SE's will like.
2) Keep doing so...
3) Stop asking how I can make $10K in a month and ask, how can I make 1 sale a week from what I did today. If you cannot make 1 sale a week on what you did today, find another fucking job man.
4) Disregard following rule #1 since you can do it on posted galleries or what ever the fuck you do. But just make sure to make 1 thing a day that will sell once a week for a long time.

If you follow this simple fucking shit, here is what week 1 to 51 will look like.

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140
280
420
560
700
840
980
1120
1260
1400
1540
1372
1512
1652
1792
1932
2072
2212
2352
2492
2632
2772
2912
2469.6
2609.6
2749.6
2889.6
3029.6
3169.6
3309.6
3449.6
3589.6
3729.6
3869.6
4009.6
3347.68
3487.68
3627.68
3767.68
3907.68
4047.68
4187.68
4327.68
4467.68
4607.68
4747.68
4887.68
4050.144
4190.144
4330.144

It is adjusted for an .08% dip every 3 months because you will undoubtly fuck up here and there.

1 sale a week from what you did today. 1 Year you will be making $120,000 a year.

Have a nice day.
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Old 05-29-2005, 03:20 AM   #2
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wow you really know what youre doing uh
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Interesting. If anyone wants to make money off mainstream sites, email me at info at webmasterlabor dot com.
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Interesting. If anyone wants to make that kind of money signup for www.vouyercash.com and hit spacemonk up for content and hosting.
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But just make sure to make 1 thing a day that will sell once a week for a long time.
and that would be what ?
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Old 05-29-2005, 05:41 AM   #7
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and that would be what ?
One VouyerCash freesite made out of high quality VouyerCash movie content hosted on VouyerCash servers so noone has to worry about 2257 shit ;)
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Any of pimprolls top notch sites would make 2 sales a day lol.......
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Any of pimprolls top notch sites would make 2 sales a day lol.......
Can you garantee that...........?
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One VouyerCash freesite made out of high quality VouyerCash movie content hosted on VouyerCash servers so noone has to worry about 2257 shit ;)
I suggest you read a bit more about 2257.
My content could be hosted in Guam, I still have to keep the full 2257 records.
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I suggest you read a bit more about 2257.
My content could be hosted in Guam, I still have to keep the full 2257 records.
The sites are hosted on our servers and belong to us as well as the content for which we have all the required docs.

If any affiliate wants to retain "ownership" over the freesites / galleries by hosting on their own servers they are free to do that and we will work out a way for them to stay compliant.

Guam.. lol
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Too bad it takes weeks before you get your freesite listed (only a handful actually list in a few days).
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Too bad it takes weeks before you get your freesite listed (only a handful actually list in a few days).
whats your point?
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Too bad it takes weeks before you get your freesite listed (only a handful actually list in a few days).
Yeah, but I'm not complaining about the signups I get from free sites I submitted over a year ago.
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Yes ... this goes right along with the advice I have always given newbs :

It is MUCH easier to make $50 ONE HUMDRED times, then it is to make $5000 once!

It's nice to see these kind of threads on GFY! :D
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Free sites rock :D

instant gratification is stupid, when you can get 6 months of steady traffic from some of the bigger link lists.

Just tossing in my 2cents ;)
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whats your point?
This is just me, but I like to see results right away.

I'd rather not wait half a year before a single sale rolls in.
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Can you garantee that...........?
No, but maybe he can guarantee it?
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So what's those figures after bandwidth, if you're running galleries that convert once per week?
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There is no way someone could make that much money from freesites alone whilst submitting just one per day.
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By looking at those numbers you are assuming that each site will get the same amount of traffic at week 51 as at week 2. It doesn't work that way. You get small numbers at first, then a few weeks into it, the numbers increase as more sites have got around to listing you then a week later it drops to a trickle while their list gets bigger and your site gets puched into the archives or so far down nobody makes it that far. By year's end it's a hit here and there. Sure it lasts a long fucking time, but the traffic numbers just aren't there from link lists.
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Interesting thread, i have never really been into freesites.
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I get my free sites listed in less than a few days and even in as little as a few hours.
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By looking at those numbers you are assuming that each site will get the same amount of traffic at week 51 as at week 2. It doesn't work that way. You get small numbers at first, then a few weeks into it, the numbers increase as more sites have got around to listing you then a week later it drops to a trickle while their list gets bigger and your site gets puched into the archives or so far down nobody makes it that far. By year's end it's a hit here and there. Sure it lasts a long fucking time, but the traffic numbers just aren't there from link lists.
Actually it is adjusted for an 8% drop in traffic every 3 months. I am going by solid numbers and those numbers actually reflect very closely with my own.
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There is no way someone could make that much money from freesites alone whilst submitting just one per day.
Re-read what I posted. I said that no matter what it is that YOU prefer to do, you need to do something in which you can get 1 sale a week from what you made on each given day.

So if you are a gallery poster. You need to not only create a gallery but link it in ways that google with show it to enough people that it will continue to get 1 sale a week for a year. How do you do that? SEO tricks.

If you do free sites it is even easier in my humble opinion because they can help do what I just stated for you. [hint][hint]

If you don't like money, then you are right. Just stick your finger in your ass and another from the other hand in your nose and let the rest of us get rich.
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I like how everyone here thinks he's only referring to free sites that will be submitted to link lists. There are many, many kinds of free sites. And if you really want SE traffic, you're kidding yourself if you think a link list free site is going to do well time after time.
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So what's those figures after bandwidth, if you're running galleries that convert once per week?
Decide where you are getting your hits from first. Where you are posting your galleries. Are you blindly posting them to a bunch of shitty spots? Are you posting them to the 3 places every gallery should be posted to?

For $10,000 a month you only need to be doing $2250 a week. At week 51 your are doing $4330.14. So take $225 in hosting... you are actually making more and are ahead of the 10K'ers.
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I like how everyone here thinks he's only referring to free sites that will be submitted to link lists. There are many, many kinds of free sites. And if you really want SE traffic, you're kidding yourself if you think a link list free site is going to do well time after time.
Exactly. Very few of my sites are posted to link lists. To time consuming.
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LOL That's hilarious. Notice that my post was never edited.
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are you kidding? Someone can make $140 in their second week in the business?
and $1,440 in their first month?

Ask people how long it took before they see any money and many say it took a month, some even 2 or 3 months before they make a sale
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Re-read what I posted. I said that no matter what it is that YOU prefer to do, you need to do something in which you can get 1 sale a week from what you made on each given day.

So if you are a gallery poster. You need to not only create a gallery but link it in ways that google with show it to enough people that it will continue to get 1 sale a week for a year. How do you do that? SEO tricks.

If you do free sites it is even easier in my humble opinion because they can help do what I just stated for you. [hint][hint]

If you don't like money, then you are right. Just stick your finger in your ass and another from the other hand in your nose and let the rest of us get rich.
I know how it all works. I think I had a misunderstanding of your initial post.

I thought you were talking about the "traditional" style freesites. I know that SE specific sites are much much more productive and profitable. Which is why I said that you'll not continue to get the same amount of sales from any given site a year later as you did in the first week. Now, even with SE specific sites it's somewhat the same too. You can't count on generating the same amount of sales in week 25 from any given site as you did in the first week it was listed. SERPS change too often to guaranty a steady consistant flow of sales and traffic. Now... if you apply your train of thought to everything you do, of course, yes, I agree, you can make really good money. That's how it's done, stick at it, build build build and let the traffic do it's work.

Build a gallery, freesite, tgp2, free pages, everything you do, do it on a daily basis. Your income will keep multiplying and multiplying. Just not as quick as you layed out in your initial post unless for some magic reason that every site generates a sale per week, every week of the year guaranteed. If it does, then you really did your homework and know a thing or two about selling. The general masses couldn't accomplish this though. We all know that. Not right away anyways. There's a learning curve and some people just don't know how to build initially to keep higher serps and to keep traffic flowing for long periods of time. And also, lots of people don't know how to "fix" a site that lost it's traffic base.

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Right. That 8% will have compounded into 32% on the sites from the beginning of the year. Which is why after the first three months growth will drop significantly. Then again in another 3 months. This is only a baseline. You might have it happen to you on month 1 and then on 5, 10 and 11. You will see some fluctuation.
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Actually it is adjusted for an 8% drop in traffic every 3 months. I am going by solid numbers and those numbers actually reflect very closely with my own.
For you, 8% drop may be what you experienced (Congrats on such good traffic retention BTW), however, 90% of others will experience a 50% or more drop. It just takes experience and know how to keep that trafifc flowing. but hell, even at 50% drop, that's still good money for the little work involved. Thus... your suggestions are still good and valid.
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Another thing I guess I should take into considerationm too is that there will be builds that produce way above average sales that will compensate for drops.
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instant gratification is stupid, when you can get 6 months of steady traffic from some of the bigger link lists.

Just tossing in my 2cents ;)
That's a fallacy you link list owners guerilla market.

There's no such thing as steady traffic. I have numbers to prove it, but it's not in my best interest to show the inner workings of the biz I work with/in. Anyways, those big guys may hit harder the first few days, then after that, it's trickle trickle trickle. It's getting to be just like TGP. So many more people are doing link list freesites now than just a couple years ago.

Thus this is why people need to build sites on a daily basis to keep the steadiness. Submit one site to all the big guys and show me that the traffic is steady for 6 months on that one site.

Impossible.
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BTW... your sig sucks... I want boobies and happy things... especially when I am pot paranoid ;)
I couldn't come up with a good boobie one the other night. I'm still keeping an eye out for one to mod/photoshop/animate/whatever. This Chupacrabra is temporary.
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ok here's a really, really, really, stupid question but what exactly is a "freesite" and what are the different type (ie "classical")?
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i mean "traditional"...
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There's freesites that you submit to link lists like link-o-rama.com then there's other types of free sites for SEO or traffil filtering reasons.
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:26 PM   #47
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are you kidding? Someone can make $140 in their second week in the business?
and $1,440 in their first month?

Ask people how long it took before they see any money and many say it took a month, some even 2 or 3 months before they make a sale
i started out with a basic page using amateurpages when i started and i was making nice amounts.
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:27 PM   #48
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i more interested in freesites (or any type of sites) designed for seo, any suggestions?
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Old 05-29-2005, 07:29 PM   #49
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Stop reading through bbs boards and get back to work ! :P
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Old 05-29-2005, 10:23 PM   #50
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