Coakley has Conceded - Brown is Senator Elect!

[DateDoc]

Amazing how things change in just one year!

[neonlights]

[DateDoc]

Nice spider

[Vendzilla]

I think this will send a message to the democrats

[LiveDose]

Denile is definitely not a river in Egypt. So funny all the people who were so sure Coakley would win... lol

[DateDoc]

I'd love to see this bring the Democrats and Republicans together to work on compromise, however, I think it will be the same old BS and they will just bicker more.

[Rangermoore]

Gee where is nation X at now....

[DaddyHalbucks]

Wow, great news for our country. The Boston patriots have some fight left in them!!

[Michael O]

This will drag out until the health care bill has passed.
Dem, house, senate and gov.

[DaddyHalbucks]

The server at www.boston.com won't load, it must be getting zillions of hits.

[Minte]

Change..apparently it is overated.

[Rangermoore]

Originally Posted by Michael O

This will drag out until the health care bill has passed.
Dem, house, senate and gov.

Wrong...obama care is dead...

[Minte]

It got pretty quiet here at GFY all of a sudden.

[EdgeXXX]

Originally Posted by Minte

It got pretty quiet here at GFY all of a sudden.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by neonlights

did you draw this spider? This spider only has seven legs and I do not feel you would have made such an elementary mistake when you drew it.

[Rangermoore]

Originally Posted by Minte

It got pretty quiet here at GFY all of a sudden.

All the demotards are crying on the floor right now..Sucking their little thumbs...

[EdgeXXX]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

did you draw this spider? This spider only has seven legs and I do not feel you would have made such an elementary mistake when you drew it.

Either way I'm pretty sure it cannot be accepted as payment.

[Vendzilla]

It's a huge upset loosing Ted Kennedy's seat to a republican, the guy that wanted the healthcare reform the most.
Now Obama will either have to try something shady to get it passed, which would end up in the courts and thrown out later I'm sure
OR
Change his approach and do what he promised
Like transparency, bipartisanship and well, I don't think he will ever keep the no pork promise
Now we get to wait and see what hapens next and how many senators and crongressmen will loose their jobs at the end of the year

[marketsmart]

the problem is not democrats or republicans, its govt in general..

these scumbags on both sides of the house are raping the taxpayers and lining their pockets at the same time..

you want CHANGE?

show up on capital hill with an ak-47 and 1000 rounds of ammo..

now thats CHANGE i can believe in...

[Minte]

And so it goes..

Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said Coakley's loss won't deter his colleagues from continuing their practice of blaming George W. Bush's administration

[Rangermoore]

Obama....

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Rangermoore

Obama....

The little guy gets around.

[The Demon]

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...to_Plan_C.html
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31693.html

[$5 submissions]

His college age daughters have teh Hawtness

Proof:

[NewbieNudes]

Question: Why is the USA so against universal health care?

I can just walk into the doctor - get checked up FOR FREE. Then if I need meds - get them for like $2 (instead of $30 or $40).

We pay for this privilege through our tax an at extra 3%. (which is a bargain really compared to private health insurance costs)

It's cheap, and provides great peace of mind knowing no matter what happens to you you can get treated in any hospital in the country for free.

I just don't get why America doesn't want that?

Please explain.

[The Demon]

Because it's unsustainable for 250million+ people and almost 50 trillion dollars worth of debt, among other reasons?

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

Question: Why is the USA so against universal health care?

I can just walk into the doctor - get checked up FOR FREE. Then if I need meds - get them for like $2 (instead of $30 or $40).

We pay for this privilege through our tax an at extra 3%. (which is a bargain really compared to private health insurance costs)

It's cheap, and provides great peace of mind knowing no matter what happens to you you can get treated in any hospital in the country for free.

I just don't get why America doesn't want that?

Please explain.

I, for one, am not against universal healthcare but the proposed plan is written so that it reads more like a bailout for the insurance & pharma companies.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

Question: Why is the USA so against universal health care?

I can just walk into the doctor - get checked up FOR FREE. Then if I need meds - get them for like $2 (instead of $30 or $40).

We pay for this privilege through our tax an at extra 3%. (which is a bargain really compared to private health insurance costs)

It's cheap, and provides great peace of mind knowing no matter what happens to you you can get treated in any hospital in the country for free.

I just don't get why America doesn't want that?

Please explain.

I can't speak for all America. But I want healthcare reform that the country can afford. I don't want my childrens,childrens children to have to pay for my generations mistakes.

There are plenty of things that can be done to make healthcare more affordable for everyone. And hopefully now,the parties will look at some realistic solutions.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Minte

I can't speak for all America. But I want healthcare reform that the country can afford. I don't want my childrens,childrens children to have to pay for my generations mistakes.

There are plenty of things that can be done to make healthcare more affordable for everyone. And hopefully now,the parties will look at some realistic solutions.

Thank you

[epitome]

Another example of people paying attention to what is going on AROUND politics and not IN politics.

If you think anything will go differently because of this, you're a retard.

There is one party that controls the U.S. and it's called the multi-billion dollar corporation.

It's ironic that anyone in this industry would be cheering on someone that is as socially conservative as Brown. There is no such thing as a fiscally conservative Republican on the hill; they have just as many palms to grease as the next guy. They can vote on social laws without pissing anyone off.

By voting in someone like Brown, you're not voting for less or wiser spending, you're voting in someone that is for more restrictive social laws; taking away the rights on individuals.

Smoke and mirrors...

[NewbieNudes]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Because it's unsustainable for 250million+ people and almost 50 trillion dollars worth of debt, among other reasons?

No - it's paid for in the 3% tax contribution. We actually see it listed as a separate item on our tax returns.

So then you say there will be people not wanting a tax hike. I can see that as an issue. But I would say that for most people a 3% tax hike is way cheaper than their whole family's medical costs for 1 year.

Don't quote me but I think I saw that USA is the only developed country that doesn't have a system like this? Surely that says something about whether it works or not.

And one last thing - one other huge benefit is to people with Pre-Existing conditions. They are treated equally and never denied treatment.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by epitome

Another example of people paying attention to what is going on AROUND politics and not IN politics.

If you think anything will go differently because of this, you're a retard.

There is one party that controls the U.S. and it's called the multi-billion dollar corporation.

It's ironic that anyone in this industry would be cheering on someone that is as socially conservative as Brown. There is no such thing as a fiscally conservative Republican on the hill; they have just as many palms to grease as the next guy. They can vote on social laws without pissing anyone off.

By voting in someone like Brown, you're not voting for less or wiser spending, you're voting in someone that is for more restrictive social laws; taking away the rights on individuals.

Smoke and mirrors...

[Redrob]

Just more of the same on the horizon: gridlock, partisan bullshit, inaction and blame. Someday, maybe we will get really effective government.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

No - it's paid for in the 3% tax contribution. We actually see it listed as a separate item on our tax returns.

So then you say there will be people not wanting a tax hike. I can see that as an issue. But I would say that for most people a 3% tax hike is way cheaper than their whole family's medical costs for 1 year.

Don't quote me but I think I saw that USA is the only developed country that doesn't have a system like this? Surely that says something about whether it works or not.

And one last thing - one other huge benefit is to people with Pre-Existing conditions. They are treated equally and never denied treatment.

I'm not really sure how that's going to work here. I wouldn't want a 3% tax hike. And yes, our system is unique. Yet time and time again people from all over the world flock here because they are tired of their "universal health care".

The only thing I agree with you is the pre-existing conditions. I want that to be passed in health care reform because I hate insurance companies and the way they dick people over. But I hate the idea of the government taking over health care even more, especially with our weak economy.

[Michael O]

Originally Posted by Minte

I can't speak for all America. But I want healthcare reform that the country can afford. I don't want my childrens,childrens children to have to pay for my generations mistakes.

There are plenty of things that can be done to make healthcare more affordable for everyone. And hopefully now,the parties will look at some realistic solutions.

You are already paying for your parents and their parents mistakes by not have universal health care why make your children and their children pay even more for it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...%29_per_capita

I promise you 90% of any goods or service are more expensive in Denmark than in the US.
Of the top 20 countries on this list how many does not have more or less free universal health card? Is it the rest of the western world thats wrong?
I got a Gastric Bypass for free under the Danish system total cost for operation, 4 day stay at hospital and follow ups for 2 years is estimated at $20.000 I doubt you can get it anywhere close to that price in the US.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by epitome

Another example of people paying attention to what is going on AROUND politics and not IN politics.

If you think anything will go differently because of this, you're a retard.

There is one party that controls the U.S. and it's called the multi-billion dollar corporation.

It's ironic that anyone in this industry would be cheering on someone that is as socially conservative as Brown. There is no such thing as a fiscally conservative Republican on the hill; they have just as many palms to grease as the next guy. They can vote on social laws without pissing anyone off.

By voting in someone like Brown, you're not voting for less or wiser spending, you're voting in someone that is for more restrictive social laws; taking away the rights on individuals.

Smoke and mirrors...

I won't get into a discussion with someone that needs to toss insults, so I will be short and sweet. Todays special election already changed things. It sent a message to the leaders of the nation that there is accountabilty. That the voters still need to be listened to.

[Michael O]

Originally Posted by The Demon

I'm not really sure how that's going to work here. I wouldn't want a 3% tax hike. And yes, our system is unique. Yet time and time again people from all over the world flock here because they are tired of their "universal health care".

The only thing I agree with you is the pre-existing conditions. I want that to be passed in health care reform because I hate insurance companies and the way they dick people over. But I hate the idea of the government taking over health care even more, especially with our weak economy.

The good old people flock here card is played!

From what countries are being coming?

[epitome]

Originally Posted by NewbieNudes

Question: Why is the USA so against universal health care?

I can just walk into the doctor - get checked up FOR FREE. Then if I need meds - get them for like $2 (instead of $30 or $40).

We pay for this privilege through our tax an at extra 3%. (which is a bargain really compared to private health insurance costs)

It's cheap, and provides great peace of mind knowing no matter what happens to you you can get treated in any hospital in the country for free.

I just don't get why America doesn't want that?

Please explain.

It's because our health care system is so bloated from the top down that it would take some major effort to pull it off.

Again, it goes back to the multi-billion dollar corporation. You'd have to boot their CEO making $35 million a year; all of their top-level managers, etc.

Universal heath care would work just as well in the U.S. as it does anywhere else if you shaved all of the fat. The problem is the fat includes many of the richest people in America and they will spend a fortune to make sure that does not happy.

The power doesn't lie in The White House or the Capitol. All of the power has been centralized on K Street (well, many lobbying houses have moved from K Street in favor of other parts of the city).

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Just more of the same on the horizon: gridlock, partisan bullshit, inaction and blame. Someday, maybe we will get really effective government.

for the last year, Obama didn't have to deal with the other party and still couldn't get anything done

[NewbieNudes]

Oh - I should also add that we also can go totally private for anything. So we can have a private health insurance policy if we want, and see our own doctors, have as many opinions as we want, get treated at the best hospitals in the country and all the stuff you can do in USA's private system.

So we have both systems running in parallel, it works well.

Maybe that's the issue, maybe the proposed bill doesn't cater to leave the current system available as well?

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by Minte

It got pretty quiet here at GFY all of a sudden.

Your post was only 20 minutes after the thread was created, and it was reply #11. How much faster did you need it to be?

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Michael O

You are already paying for your parents and their parents mistakes by not have universal health care why make your children and their children pay even more for it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...%29_per_capita

I promise you 90% of any goods or service are more expensive in Denmark than in the US.
Of the top 20 countries on this list how many does not have more or less free universal health card? Is it the rest of the western world thats wrong?
I got a Gastric Bypass for free under the Danish system total cost for operation, 4 day stay at hospital and follow ups for 2 years is estimated at $20.000 I doubt you can get it anywhere close to that price in the US.

We can't turn back the hands of time. We can learn from those mistakes and not repeat them. I agree that healthcare reform is essential. I do not agree with the majority of points that the current administration has made to reform it.

[Minte]

Originally Posted by Brujah

Your post was only 20 minutes after the thread was created, and it was reply #11. How much faster did you need it to be?

American Idol must've been on?

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Michael O

The good old people flock here card is played!

From what countries are being coming?

Do you speak English?

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Minte

I won't get into a discussion with someone that needs to toss insults, so I will be short and sweet. Todays special election already changed things. It sent a message to the leaders of the nation that there is accountabilty. That the voters still need to be listened to.

QFT. I think Obama's presidency the past year has taught the Republicans how NOT to run the country, what choices NOT to make, etc. They did fuck up for 8 years but what Obama is doing has brought a resurgence of the Republican Party.

[TheSenator]

I am now a corporatist.


Please, invest your money in one of my health insurance companies.....

HBCBS, AETNA, CIGNA and my favorite HUMANA. They are working hard for the American people and support healthcare reform. They also support the people's choice!

[epitome]

Originally Posted by Minte

I won't get into a discussion with someone that needs to toss insults, so I will be short and sweet. Todays special election already changed things. It sent a message to the leaders of the nation that there is accountabilty. That the voters still need to be listened to.

I apologize for the insult.

Didn't we send the same message on November 4, 2008?

I'm curious as to what the voter turnout was today. Special elections typically lean right.

If we kick enough people out of office in November, we may see some serious changes and accountability, but I seriously doubt that will happen. I hope it does, but it seems like people only lose their seat to Death (Ted Kennedy) and scandal (countless others).

One seat going right during a special election is ... well, typical.

One thing is sure ... we voted for change last year, got none. We supposedly just voted for change, I bet we get none. We'll probably vote again in November for some more and get none.

Term limits would be part of the overall solution. Too bad the people cannot put Proposition 1 on the national ballot: term limits

[GregE]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

I'd love to see this bring the Democrats and Republicans together to work on compromise, however, I think it will be the same old BS and they will just bicker more.

Welcome to the age of no congress.

New game, new rules.

Without a 60 vote majority neither party will be passing any laws for a very, verrry long time.

[Rangermoore]

Originally Posted by Minte

The little guy gets around.

Yes he does...Thanks...

[Brujah]

Originally Posted by Minte

Todays special election already changed things. It sent a message to the leaders of the nation that there is accountabilty. That the voters still need to be listened to.

I hope so.

Originally Posted by Minte

We can't turn back the hands of time. We can learn from those mistakes and not repeat them. I agree that healthcare reform is essential. I do not agree with the majority of points that the current administration has made to reform it.

Can't argue with that!