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Kard63 · 01-29-2010, 10:02 AM

Can I say I'm starting a paysite and throw a camcorder in the corner? Instead of breaking the law and paying for sex I am making a legal business choice and best of all I can write it off my taxes as a business expense. Damn I'm good.

MaDalton · 01-29-2010, 10:10 AM

brilliant idea, you're probably the first to figure that out ;)

Martin · 01-29-2010, 10:12 AM

lol.. Do it up...

MaDalton · 01-29-2010, 10:14 AM

perfect thread btw to start the discussion again about the difference between doing porn and prostitution...

Kard63 · 01-29-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

perfect thread btw to start the discussion again about the difference between doing porn and prostitution...

You mean the chick would be upset if I said, "oh by the way, I don't really care about production values I just want to enjoy some tax deductible pussy" ?

Iron Fist · 01-29-2010, 10:23 AM

96ukssob · 01-29-2010, 10:26 AM

i knew someone in college that did this with a few chicks

HerPimp · 01-29-2010, 10:28 AM

Make sure she signs the legal documents and you get a copy of her ID.

Paul Markham · 01-29-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

brilliant idea, you're probably the first to figure that out ;)

And you get a model release, ID and content.

Plus she does what you want and not what she's prepared.
Plus you get a 3 hour good fucking and not 1 hour.
Plus you get boasting rights with your mates if she's a star.

Been there, seen that and got the T shirt.

hotcontent · 01-29-2010, 10:56 AM

Good Luck! but but you're not first in this

MaDalton · 01-29-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

You mean the chick would be upset if I said, "oh by the way, I don't really care about production values I just want to enjoy some tax deductible pussy" ?

maybe she puts more effort in it when she knows the camera is actually running. you can always use the same tape if you don't like watching yourself :P

never tried it myself but i know one guy who did that all the time and then sold the content to ATK ;)

CaptainHowdy · 01-29-2010, 11:00 AM

Congrats I guess...

Paul Markham · 01-29-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HerPimp

Make sure she signs the legal documents and you get a copy of her ID.

And an up to date negative STD document. Check hers as well. Try asking a hooker for that or a date.

MaDalton · 01-29-2010, 11:00 AM

ok, and after Pauls post i can say i know two people who did all the time - lol

Ripper - RiotDesign · 01-29-2010, 11:47 AM

Excellent thread

Paul Markham · 01-29-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

ok, and after Pauls post i can say i know two people who did all the time - lol

3 including you.

Chosen · 01-29-2010, 11:53 AM

MaDalton · 01-29-2010, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

3 including you.

me? not even once. i am camera shy

but i might know one or two more

J. Falcon · 01-29-2010, 12:09 PM

I'm sure that will working out just fine.

czarina · 01-29-2010, 12:13 PM

sure thing, but why not sell that content later and get some of your money back?

Realpeachez · 01-29-2010, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And you get a model release, ID and content.

Plus she does what you want and not what she's prepared.
Plus you get a 3 hour good fucking and not 1 hour.
Plus you get boasting rights with your mates if she's a star.

Been there, seen that and got the T shirt.

Who the hell can fuck for 3 hrs straight .... :P

EdgeXXX · 01-29-2010, 01:39 PM

Kard63 · 01-30-2010, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And you get a model release, ID and content.

Plus she does what you want and not what she's prepared.
Plus you get a 3 hour good fucking and not 1 hour.
Plus you get boasting rights with your mates if she's a star.

Been there, seen that and got the T shirt.

Umm, if I don't have a camera man and I just have a camera or two on tripods could I really sell it? For how much?

Really I get 3 hours for less money? This plan is better than I fucking thought. It looks like all the girls that are kinda famous escort at $1500 an hour. When I say "kinda famous" I mean the most famous 30% that you would see at Brazzers. They shoot a scene for $1k, right?

seeandsee · 01-30-2010, 07:53 AM

maybe you get some earnings at the end

weekly · 01-30-2010, 09:32 AM

This has been done to death.....

Kard63 · 01-30-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

maybe you get some earnings at the end

You really think the content could be worth anything if I just have a camera on a tripod? I doubt it.

fatfoo · 01-30-2010, 06:21 PM

In some places, I think it is feasable that pornograhpy is allowed, but prostitution is not allowed.

Think of it as this - you can fuck the woman as long as it's not in exchange for money.

So, if she fucks you for free - it's not prostitution.

Sly · 01-30-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

You really think the content could be worth anything if I just have a camera on a tripod? I doubt it.

Shady PI.

BillyHoe · 01-30-2010, 11:22 PM

welcome to the world of POV content. Let the debate continue.

DBS.US · 01-30-2010, 11:36 PM

Turn on three video cameras and do your thing. Now just edit it all together.

Kelli58 · 01-30-2010, 11:38 PM

1) It depends greatly on where you live. Some states prohibit filming adult content. So let's just assume you live in an area that allows it.

2) You will need to keep your testing current, just as all the stars you work with, you will want to make sure they have a valid / current AIM test.

3) It's not real romantic or even very fun but always business before pleasure. Before going down to "business" make sure you have checked her ID to ensure she is 18, get copes of her ID, have her sign a release and so on. Even if you are just having fun, you gotta keep it legal.

4) Keep extensive records of everything you spend and specifically what you spend it on, because yah, like any business, those expenses could very well be tax deductible and hiring of the talent is included.

5) Make sure you have all the proper permits required for a shoot. I know in Houston you must have a SIN license to do anything adult related and every city and state is different. Basically you just don't want to get busted for not having the proper paperwork. Some people keep the location a top secret so they can avoid this step but well taking that risk is really up to you.

Bird · 01-30-2010, 11:39 PM

isn't that the whole idea behind the casting couch...

Paul Markham · 01-31-2010, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Realpeachez

Who the hell can fuck for 3 hrs straight .... :P

A good male porn model. When shooting a hardcore version, cable version and softcore version it can take 3 hours or longer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63

You really think the content could be worth anything if I just have a camera on a tripod? I doubt it.

It depends on the scene, if she's a starlet it's a no brainer. Set it up as if she has to fuck to get prove she's any good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bird

isn't that the whole idea behind the casting couch...

Give this man a cookie for getting it spot on.

pornlaw · 01-31-2010, 08:42 AM

In the US, there is no state where this is legal. Even in California, technically POV is still considered prostitution but no one ever gets prosecuted for it.

According to the seminal case making the production of pornography a protected First Amendment right in California, People of the State of California v. Freeman, the one fact the court hung its hat on so to speak was that Freeman, the producer, was not actually receiving sexual gratification for his money. He was paying other actors involved in the sex acts.

shimmy2 · 01-31-2010, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kard63

throw a camcorder in the corner

the footage will look horrible and the camera angles will get stale after about 60 seconds. unless youre selling it on a hidden security cam type of site what is the point. i hold my cam mere inches away from chicks most of the time and i usually bump them with the wideangle or the shotgun mic a few times heh

andrej_NDC · 01-31-2010, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2

the footage will look horrible and the camera angles will get stale after about 60 seconds. unless youre selling it on a hidden security cam type of site what is the point. i hold my cam mere inches away from chicks most of the time and i usually bump them with the wideangle or the shotgun mic a few times heh

You didn't get his point.

Kard63 · 01-31-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

You didn't get his point.

Thank you

echatnetwork · 01-31-2010, 11:19 AM

Thats hit the nail on the head i think, follow these rules and cant go wrong. legally anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelli58

1) It depends greatly on where you live. Some states prohibit filming adult content. So let's just assume you live in an area that allows it.

2) You will need to keep your testing current, just as all the stars you work with, you will want to make sure they have a valid / current AIM test.

3) It's not real romantic or even very fun but always business before pleasure. Before going down to "business" make sure you have checked her ID to ensure she is 18, get copes of her ID, have her sign a release and so on. Even if you are just having fun, you gotta keep it legal.

4) Keep extensive records of everything you spend and specifically what you spend it on, because yah, like any business, those expenses could very well be tax deductible and hiring of the talent is included.

5) Make sure you have all the proper permits required for a shoot. I know in Houston you must have a SIN license to do anything adult related and every city and state is different. Basically you just don't want to get busted for not having the proper paperwork. Some people keep the location a top secret so they can avoid this step but well taking that risk is really up to you.

Naechy · 01-31-2010, 01:20 PM

just do it

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-31-2010, 01:23 PM

woohoo, start a pov site...

StaceyJo · 01-31-2010, 08:36 PM

Great idea. Good luck with that. tee hee

mynameisjim · 01-31-2010, 08:50 PM

Save money and set a few of these up. She'll think you're legit.

hotlinked - hope it works

Paul Markham · 02-01-2010, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy2

the footage will look horrible and the camera angles will get stale after about 60 seconds. unless youre selling it on a hidden security cam type of site what is the point. i hold my cam mere inches away from chicks most of the time and i usually bump them with the wideangle or the shotgun mic a few times heh

Do a search for Pierre Woodman Casting

Seems it does work and the films go on from there to fucking. This is a Youtube edit. LOL

CDSmith · 02-01-2010, 06:54 AM

"tax deductible pussy"

Hottest growth niche market for 2010?

Hank_Heartland · 02-01-2010, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Do a search for Pierre Woodman Casting

Seems it does work and the films go on from there to fucking. This is a Youtube edit. LOL

My hero...man did he buttfuck the hottest babes

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