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Btw, amongst the 5-6 of us, definitely a great discussion, this forum could use more like it.
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Here's a few on the "driving" aspect of "law" You see they tricked everyone into a "contract" that turned them into "drivers" doing business on the roadways rather than "traveling"
"Complete freedom of the highways is so old and well established a blessing that we have forgotten the days of the Robber Barons and toll roads, and yet, under an act like this, arbitrarily administered, the highways may be completely monopolized, if, through lack of interest, the people submit, then they may look to see the most sacred of their liberties taken from them one by one, by more or less rapid encroachment." Robertson vs. Department of Public Works, 180 Wash 133, 147 "...We are of the opinion that there is a clear distinction in this particular between an individual and a corporation, and that the latter has no right to refuse to submit its books and papers for examination on the suit of the State. The individual may stand upon his Constitutional Rights as a Citizen. He is entitled to carry on his private business in his own way. His power to contract is unlimited. He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him. He owes no such duty to the State, since he receives nothing therefrom, beyond the protection of his life, liberty, and property. His Rights are such as the law of the land long antecedent to the organization of the state, and can only be taken from him by due process of law, and in accordance with the Constitution. Among his Rights are the refusal to incriminate himself, and the immunity of himself and his property from arrest or seizure except under warrant of law. He owes nothing to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights. "Upon the other hand, the corporation is a creature of the state. It is presumed to be incorporated for the benefit of the public. It receives certain special privileges and franchises, and holds them subject to the laws of the state and the limitations of its charter. Its rights to act as a corporation are only preserved to it so long as it obeys the laws of its creation. There is a reserved right in the legislature to investigate its contracts and find out whether it has exceeded its powers. It would be a strange anomaly to hold that the State, having chartered a corporation to make use of certain franchises, could not in exercise of its sovereignty inquire how those franchises had been employed, and whether they had been abused, and demand the production of corporate books and papers for that purpose." Hale vs. Hinkel, 201 US 43, 74-75 "...Based upon the fundamental ground that the sovereign state has the plenary control of the streets and highways in the exercise of its police power (see police power, infra.), may absolutely prohibit the use of the streets as a place for the prosecution of a private business for gain. They all recognize the fundamental distinction between the ordinary Right of the Citizen to use the streets in the usual way and the use of the streets as a place of business or a main instrumentality of business for private gain. The former is a common Right, the latter is an extraordinary use. As to the former, the legislative power is confined to regulation, as to the latter, it is plenary and extends even to absolute prohibition. Since the use of the streets by a common carrier in the prosecution of its business as such is not a right but a mere license of privilege." Hadfield vs. Lundin, 98 Wash 516 "The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common and fundamental Right of which the public and the individual cannot be rightfully deprived." Chicago Motor Coach vs. Chicago, 169 NE 22; Ligare vs. Chicago, 28 NE 934; Boon vs. Clark, 214 SSW 607; 25 Am.Jur. (1st) Highways Sect.163 "The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by horse drawn carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city can prohibit or permit at will, but a common Right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson vs. Smith, 154 SE 579 "... For while a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, that Right does not extend to the use of the highways, either in whole or in part, as a place for private gain. For the latter purpose, no person has a vested right to use the highways of the state, but is a privilege or a license which the legislature may grant or withhold at its discretion." State vs. Johnson, 243 P. 1073; Cummins vs. Homes, 155 P. 171; Packard vs. Banton, 44 S.Ct. 256; Hadfield vs. Lundin, 98 Wash 516 "Heretofore the court has held, and we think correctly, that while a Citizen has the Right to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, that Right does not extend to the use of the highways, either in whole or in part, as a place of business for private gain." Willis vs. Buck, 263 P. l 982; Barney vs. Board of Railroad Commissioners, 17 P.2d 82 "The right of the citizen to travel upon the highway and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, differs radically and obviously from that of one who makes the highway his place of business for private gain in the running of a stagecoach or omnibus." State vs. City of Spokane, 186 P. 864 "the right of the Citizen to travel upon the highway and to transport his property thereon in the ordinary course of life and business, differs radically and obviously from that of one who makes the highway his place of business and uses it for private gain in the running of a stagecoach or omnibus. The former is the usual and ordinary right of the Citizen, a right common to all, while the latter is special, unusual, and extraordinary." Ex Parte Dickey, (Dickey vs. Davis), 85 SE 781 "The right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, in the ordinary course of life and business, is a common right which he has under the right to enjoy life and liberty, to acquire and possess property, and to pursue happiness and safety. It includes the right, in so doing, to use the ordinary and usual conveyances of the day, and under the existing modes of travel, includes the right to drive a horse drawn carriage or wagon thereon or to operate an automobile thereon, for the usual and ordinary purpose of life and business." Thompson vs. Smith, supra.; Teche Lines vs. Danforth, Miss., 12 S.2d 784
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'Sheeple" are uneducated beings that are abused by non sheeple - politicians. You can recite every decision handed down by the High Court, the fact of the matter is, our Constitution conveys law making power to the three banches of the poeple by the poeple. If the poeple do not actively play a role in "THEIR" government then "their" government plays the active role and governs at will. Such as today.
I agree with you, onwebcam, that our society has turned a bling eye to government allowing Washingto to dictate to us, the 'sheeple", how things are going to be. Now would be a good time for American 'sheeple' to open our eyes, take back OUR government from the theiving life long crooks who have overthrown our consitutional rights and civil liberties. Whether you agree or disagree with the Tea Party agenda, the group exlempifies principles America was founded on - Free Speech, Freedom to assemble, Freedom of expression, freedom to QUESTION elected officials. We have not questioned politician's actions enough to scare them into doing the right thing. McCain is running for his 5th reelection! Why do we keep sending the same idiots back to Washington doing the same thing they did in their previous 2,3,4,5 terms? The sheeple should stand up and vote in all new politicians regardless of experience. It can't be any worse than what we have now. |
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Originally Posted by onwebcam View Post Once again another part of the deception. Are you aware that the Supreme Court that you believe is the highest Court in the US isn't? But if you want decisions made by that court which backs up what I'm saying I'll post many. I've already posted a few. I will...foolishly bite. What is the highest Court in the US?
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There is no hope that the Sheeple will change. Case in point. When they announced the tentative dates that Obama could give the State of the Union speech on there was an uproar because one of them was on the same night that the premier of the final season of Lost was on. Obama had to assure people he wouldn't interrupt Lost. When people care more about a TV show then the state of the country, that is sad. The same people keep getting elected because as much as people say they want change, they really don't. People don't care about the deficit or the national debt. We have been hearing about it all our lives and most people don't see how it effects their day-to-day life. So people stick with what they know. They would rather have a guy in office that they know is screwing them, then take a chance on a new guy who they fear might screw them more. When it comes down to elections people look at their lives and see how they are doing. If they have a decent job and a decent house and car and if the outlook for their immediate future is good, then they pick a candidate based often on moral ideals and not on their potential ability to lead. Case in point: during the last presidential election CNN was interviewing several different people who considered themselves conservatives. These were all voters in Ohio. Of the 10 or so they interviewed about 7 of them all said the same thing. They said they felt that Obama would be a better president than McCain and that he would do a better job than McCain, but they couldn't bring themselves to vote for someone who is pro-choice. So they were voting for McCain simply because he was pro-life. That is a pretty common situation. |
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after reading your court rulings, it seems that public highways are only intended for private citizens usage making privately purchased transportation of goods and services illegal...stagecouch and omnibus business illegal on public highways.
I read that as: if I do not own the goods in the back of my truck I am in violation of public highway usage laws. Are we sure we want to enforce those laws to the letter? |
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This rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than you can imagine. Such as they believe that the STATE owns your car (or at the very minimum part owner) and you are just using it. Same goes for your home. The idea that slaves can't own anything.
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onwebcam, you are beginging to scare me. Borderline conspiracy theorist.
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Originally Posted by onwebcam View Post Once again another part of the deception. Are you aware that the Supreme Court that you believe is the highest Court in the US isn't? But if you want decisions made by that court which backs up what I'm saying I'll post many. I've already posted a few. I will...foolishly bite. What is the highest Court in the US? This is the third time I have posted this.
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The Supreme Court of the US is the highest court in the land and as I stated...it decides what is constitutional/valid law...not you or any other entity...including the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania which is a state court.
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Yea onewebcam you're a smart guy.. I don't know why this is even a discussion.
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Ah yes, I forgot about directfiesta and all of his intellectual contributions to this forum.
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"Borderline"? ROFL he's a raving loon.
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You are incorrect. The United States Of America is a body corporate run by a body politic. The US Supreme Court is giving "opinions" on "corporate policy."
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I'm getting really scared of the current input. I'm crawling back into my hole until spring is over.
Great discussion. Keep it guys. It keeps the world moving forward. Who knows, maybe someone here gets elected and we all run for our holes. |
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Pig shit.
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"But, indeed, no private person has a right to complain,
by suit in court, on the ground of a breach of the Constitution, the Constitution, it is true, is a compact but he is not a party to it." Padelford, Fay & Co. vs. The Mayor and Aldermen of the City of Savannah. 14 Georgia 438, 520 How do you like that "Opinion?"
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Also, I do understand that the spending has been out of control for a long time. I was saying the last 8 years because I was using that as an illustration that the tea party is nothing more than a new arm of the republican party. When they are in power they have reasons to spend the money and they keep quiet. When they lose the power suddenly they are against it. I am 100% against the patriot act. As Franklin said, "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." I think there is a way to protect this country without forcing the citizens to give up their freedoms and forgive me if I take the ideals of Franklin over Bush, Clinton or Obama. Like you, I have nothing to hide. I follow the laws and don't do illegal things. Still, this does not mean that I should live this way because I am afraid my government it spying on me. I should live this way out of respect for my fellow countrymen. Quote:
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We? Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Is there more than one person in there with you? US want to know!
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Ignore him. He's quiet possibly the dumbest person on this forum and he lacks the ability to differentiate between fact and reality.
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Are you trying to be funny with the We stuff? Any fool can see the damage Bush did.
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And for the kicker, your initual statement was that Bush did a lot of damage. You try and back that up by using stats that paint a completely different picture. What's the matter, too stupid to follow your own line of thought? "Bush did a lot of damage, don't believe me, 61% of historians arte him as the worst president ever". You're stupid. And the bailouts once again, were initiated by Obama. But please, keep ranting, it gives us someone to laugh at for the time being. Now you can see why your posts go largely ignored.
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He did, and Obama put it into action, along with his own.
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I don't hear no fat lady singing, yet.
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