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Bman · 02-09-2010, 06:15 PM

http://www.xbiz.com/news/117413

Corbin Fisher Wins $990,000 Judgment Against Alleged Pirate

SAN DIEGO ? Gay adult studio Corbin Fisher $990,000 judgment by a federal court over the Texas entrepreneur who allegedly burned 66 Corbin Fisher videos to DVD, later selling them on eBay.
Corbin Fisher general counsel Marc Randazza told XBIZ last month that the San Diego studio got a tip about the content being sold on eBay and engaged ?in some good old-fashioned detective work to track down the culprits.?

Company officials later ordered DVDs on eBay using PayPal and personal checks.

The near million-dollar judgment held defendant A.D. Trice liable for $15,000 in statutory damages for each of the 66 individual CorbinFisher.com videos he infringed upon.

But Trice faced a potential liability of $9.9 million, and the studio reduced his liability by about 90 percent ?due to his cooperation and contrition in the case.?

"The court recognized our right to protect the material we produce, and this judgment reflects that," Randazza said.

Although the case against Trice is over, the case itself continues. Pittsburgh resident Eric Brown allegedly ran his own counterfeit DVD operation, and has been named as a co-defendant in the case.

Corbin Fisher said it was seeking an even greater judgment against Brown.

TheDoc · 02-09-2010, 06:25 PM

Straight or gay, most content owners don't have someone burning copies of content and selling it on ebay.

fpforum · 02-09-2010, 06:27 PM

Wow, that's a pretty nice suite..But like TheDoc said, there isn't very much of this going around..at least not on ebay.

That guy probably could have burned those copies, gone to his local gay nightclub and sold them..and never would have been caught.

TidalWave · 02-09-2010, 06:31 PM

The question is though, how is burning the content to a dvd or putting it up for download, really any different?

Either way the same content is given away illegally... just via a different method.

BV · 02-09-2010, 06:31 PM

ahemmm

I still have someone doing it to me: (even after filing the dmca paperwork with ebay)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220550995967

Think I can get $990,000.00 out of him?

BVF · 02-09-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

ahemmm

I still have someone doing it to me: (even after filing the dmca paperwork with ebay)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220550995967

Think I can get $990,000.00 out of him?

Sue him and find out.

BV · 02-09-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

Sue him and find out.

I'm sure i could get a judgement, collecting is another story.

TheDoc · 02-09-2010, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

ahemmm

I still have someone doing it to me: (even after filing the dmca paperwork with ebay)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220550995967

Think I can get $990,000.00 out of him?

You could... and screw dmca on this. I don't know if it can be at the local level or if you need a lawyer to get started, but you should be able to get something to make ebay give you the info or stop - asking works like a champ too. Or maybe force the guy to stop or answer, or you win by default.

Then collecting, in this situation isn't that bad. You can go after his pay, taxes, property, stop them from filing bankruptcy, all types of stuff.

BV · 02-09-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

You could... and screw dmca on this. I don't know if it can be at the local level or if you need a lawyer to get started, but you should be able to get something to make ebay give you the info or stop - asking works like a champ too. Or maybe force the guy to stop or answer, or you win by default.

Then collecting, in this situation isn't that bad. You can go after his pay, taxes, property, stop them from filing bankruptcy, all types of stuff.

I can't even get ebay on the telephone.

The only thing I know to do is buy the dam cd. (like the gay site did in the xbiz article)

But what's the chances of him putting a return address on it connected to his name?

I find it appalling that eBay does this. They are the ones that need be sued! (also)

Why · 02-09-2010, 06:43 PM

there sure as hell used to be a TON of that going on on ebay and other market places. those saying its not real dont have their eyes open.

BV · 02-09-2010, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

there sure as hell used to be a TON of that going on on ebay and other market places. those saying its not real dont have their eyes open.

agreed, there is quite a bit from what I can see.

BV · 02-09-2010, 07:04 PM

I just sent Randazza an email. Let's see what he says.

shimmy2 · 02-09-2010, 07:15 PM

theres really nothing you can do but watermark all your clips. if its photos they can easily crop them out, but as for video i often have girls say the sitename and mention it myself in the footage. its a losing battle and likely not worth your time to pursue ebay peeps unless they are making a mint of ur stuff.

Bman · 02-10-2010, 01:48 AM

Know how much stuff is sold on ebay?

istanboys · 02-10-2010, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TidalWave

The question is though, how is burning the content to a dvd or putting it up for download, really any different?

Either way the same content is given away illegally... just via a different method.

Exactly. It's not like burning content to a dvd is any worse than putting it up for download.

Raf1 · 02-10-2010, 02:12 AM

I wonder how much they'll be able to collect. Anyway, it's good they went after him.

TheDoc · 02-10-2010, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by istanboys

Exactly. It's not like burning content to a dvd is any worse than putting it up for download.

The difference is, it's "legal" to rip content from porn sites and put it on another site, as long as it's taken down if requested.

Burning and selling other peoples content on DVD is a direct copyright violation.

Michael O · 02-10-2010, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

I can't even get ebay on the telephone.

The only thing I know to do is buy the dam cd. (like the gay site did in the xbiz article)

But what's the chances of him putting a return address on it connected to his name?

I find it appalling that eBay does this. They are the ones that need be sued! (also)

Buy from him, then you send money somewhere and the company (Paypal) the money goes through will have information on him and they will comply to a subpoena to release his information.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	ahemmm I still have someone doing it to me: (even after filing the dmca paperwork with ebay) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220550995967 Think I can get $990,000.00 out of him?

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Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	there sure as hell used to be a TON of that going on on ebay and other market places. those saying its not real dont have their eyes open.

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BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	I just sent Randazza an email. Let's see what he says.

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