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epitome · 02-14-2010, 10:56 PM

The Demon,

We're going to have to agree to disagree. Now we're down to debating economic theories. Arguing theories is a perpetual loop.

You did give me one link I enjoyed:

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1884...ls-jobs-report

The charts there are essentially what I linked to, but I like how this guy breaks it down further. If I have a day of nothing planned in the future, it will send me on a fact-gathering mission to test his theories ... I like what he says.

Fortunately for me, I am not one of the unemployed and do not have a lot of downtime. Having said that, I do suffer from burnout from time-to-time and you've provided me with something that piqued my interest.

I give that blogger respect because he actually busts out the charts. With words, we can paint any picture we desire.

epitome · 02-14-2010, 10:57 PM

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So what are we arguing about? I'm still waiting on your link.

You may have me on the unemployment thing!

I'm sticking with Japan though!

1-1 in my eyes, probably 2-0 in your eyes.

epitome · 02-14-2010, 11:10 PM

I'd like to add that in reality everything is a big fucked up ponzi-like scheme and you have more than a handful of developed nations manipulating things.

I'm still looking for a reset button.

the real magoo · 02-15-2010, 02:23 AM

StickyGreen · 02-15-2010, 03:15 AM

Dumbass Democrats and Republicans aimlessly arguing back and forth as usual I see... you motherfuckers will never learn...

StickyGreen · 02-15-2010, 03:17 AM

Meanwhile in other news, 12 more innocent civilians killed in Afghanistan... Yay! Go USA!

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/worl...y/1480191.html

12clicks · 02-15-2010, 07:42 AM

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That only puts borrowing at a little more than 200% of what the Treasury takes in per year. Countries in far worse shape have borrowed much more and recovered just fine (Japan immediately comes to mind).

really? Just fine?
Goodmorning, clueless

Vendzilla · 02-15-2010, 10:34 AM

Japan did the stimulus package thing for ten years, it hasn't helped, so we tried, thats stupid

dyna mo · 02-15-2010, 10:40 AM

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Japan did the stimulus package thing for ten years, it hasn't helped, so we tried, thats stupid

in all fairness, you don't really know what could of/would of happened if there weren't one.

Vendzilla · 02-15-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

in all fairness, you don't really know what could of/would of happened if there weren't one.

in all fairness, the point is that we are using tactics that have proven failure
in all fairness, Reagan got the unemployment down and is Obama doing the same thing?

dyna mo · 02-15-2010, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

in all fairness, the point is that we are using tactics that have proven failure
in all fairness, Reagan got the unemployment down and is Obama doing the same thing?

umm, are you giving credit to obama for the economic stimulus act?

Vendzilla · 02-15-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

umm, are you giving credit to obama for the economic stimulus act?

Where the hell did you get that?

When Reagan was president we had Bob Hope and Johnny Cash
Now we have no hope and no cash! LMAO

dyna mo · 02-15-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Where the hell did you get that?

LMAO

eh?

u said japs did a stim package 10 years ago with no success, therefor, our stimulus package wouldn't/didn't work.

i then said in all fairness, you don't know that it didn't work.

you said obama is doing the same thing.

i said are you giving obama cred for reit.

that's where i got it from,

hope that helps!

Vendzilla · 02-15-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

eh?

u said japs did a stim package 10 years ago with no success, therefor, our stimulus package wouldn't/didn't work.

i then said in all fairness, you don't know that it didn't work.

you said obama is doing the same thing.

i said are you giving obama cred for reit.

that's where i got it from,

hope that helps!

they didn't do it ten years ago, they spend most of the 90's battling this, they did it like ten times I believe and they didn't get the results they would like
read about how they did things here http://www.aei.org/outlook/27568

I never said Obama did the stimulus, I said "we", that being the government in place at the time, and now they want to do it again

pornguy · 02-15-2010, 02:23 PM

This guy will own the entire country when he is done.

dyna mo · 02-15-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

they didn't do it ten years ago, they spend most of the 90's battling this, they did it like ten times I believe and they didn't get the results they would like
read about how they did things here http://www.aei.org/outlook/27568

I never said Obama did the stimulus, I said "we", that being the government in place at the time, and now they want to do it again

cool. thx for the clarification.

RyuLion · 02-15-2010, 04:28 PM

I don't care what the US gov. does..

nico-t · 02-15-2010, 05:23 PM

funny but sad: doesnt matter who is president. The real people in charge do what the fuck they want. Taking sides between rep or dem is completely useless. There is no taking sides when there is only one side.

Vendzilla · 02-15-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

funny but sad: doesnt matter who is president. The real people in charge do what the fuck they want. Taking sides between rep or dem is completely useless. There is no taking sides when there is only one side.

why the number of independants has grown and new parties have formed, the two party systems needs a wake up call

12clicks · 02-15-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

funny but sad: doesnt matter who is president. The real people in charge do what the fuck they want. Taking sides between rep or dem is completely useless. There is no taking sides when there is only one side.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssss.......... ..........the puppet masterssssssssss

nico-t · 02-16-2010, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssss.......... ..........the puppet masterssssssssss

here's how you look at the world:

ignorance is bliss huh?

slapass · 02-16-2010, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Jesus, thats the best liberal spin I have have ever heard

During Jimmy Carter's last year in office (1980), inflation averaged 12.5%, compared to 4.4% during Reagan's last year in office (1988). Over those eight years, the unemployment rate declined from 7.5% to 5.3%, hitting highs of 9.7% (1982) and 9.6% (1983) and averaging 7.5% during Reagan's administration.

During Reagan's presidency, federal income tax rates were lowered significantly with the signing of the bipartisan Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981. Real gross domestic product (GDP) growth recovered strongly after the 1982 recession and grew during his eight years in office at an annual rate of 3.85% per year. Unemployment peaked at 10.8% percent in December 1982?higher than any time since the Great Depression?then dropped during the rest of Reagan's presidency. Eighteen million new jobs were created, while inflation significantly decreased. The net effect of all Reagan-era tax bills was a 1% decrease in government revenues when compared to Treasury Department revenue estimates from the Administration's first post-enactment January budgets. However, federal Income Tax receipts almost doubled from 1980 to 1989, rising from $308.7Bn to $549.0Bn.

During the Reagan Administration, federal receipts grew at an average rate of 8.2% (2.5% attributed to higher Social Security receipts), and federal outlays grew at an annual rate of 7.1%.

Reagan also revised the tax code with the bipartisan Tax Reform Act of 1986.

Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986
Too bad no one has enforced that

End of the cold war
By the early 1980s, the USSR had built up a military arsenal and army surpassing that of the United States. Previously, the U.S. had relied on the qualitative superiority of its weapons to essentially frighten the Soviets, but the gap had been narrowed. After President Reagan's military buildup, the Soviet Union did not further dramatically build up its military;the enormous military expenses, in combination with collectivized agriculture and inefficient planned manufacturing, were a heavy burden for the Soviet economy. At the same time, the Reagan Administration persuaded Saudi Arabia to increase oil production, which resulted in a drop of oil prices in 1985 to one-third of the previous level; oil was the main source of Soviet export revenues. These factors gradually brought the Soviet economy to a stagnant state during Gorbachev's tenure

We havn't had a good leader since

Wow where did you find that BS? The debt grew faster under Reagan then any previous president. He doubled the national debt during his tenure and Bush Sr did worse until he was forced to raise taxes. Remember the RTC, Saving and Loans crisis, destruction of real estate prices? Yeah, he was a great pres if you sold guns and ammo, otherwise he pretty much sucked.

nation-x · 02-16-2010, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Wow where did you find that BS? The debt grew faster under Reagan then any previous president. He doubled the national debt during his tenure and Bush Sr did worse until he was forced to raise taxes. Remember the RTC, Saving and Loans crisis, destruction of real estate prices? Yeah, he was a great pres if you sold guns and ammo, otherwise he pretty much sucked.

The Demon · 02-16-2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Wow where did you find that BS? The debt grew faster under Reagan then any previous president. He doubled the national debt during his tenure and Bush Sr did worse until he was forced to raise taxes. Remember the RTC, Saving and Loans crisis, destruction of real estate prices? Yeah, he was a great pres if you sold guns and ammo, otherwise he pretty much sucked.

Wow where ddi you get this BS from? Are you even going to bother quoting your "source"?

12clicks · 02-16-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

here's how you look at the world:

ignorance is bliss huh?

how could you see me when you spend your life like this?

12clicks · 02-16-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Wow where ddi you get this BS from? Are you even going to bother quoting your "source"?

having not lived thru it, he's most likely sucking at the teat of liberal revisionist history websites.

nation-x · 02-16-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

having not lived thru it, he's most likely sucking at the teat of liberal revisionist history websites.

Are you saying that Reagan wasn't President in 1981? Or that Bush Sr. didn't have the S&L Crisis or any of the other things he mentioned? Who is being revisionist in this equation?

12clicks · 02-16-2010, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

Are you saying that Reagan wasn't President in 1981? Or that Bush Sr. didn't have the S&L Crisis or any of the other things he mentioned? Who is being revisionist in this equation?

Reagan's tax cuts spurred the economy. spurring the economy is what we need right now.
Reagan's tax cuts RAISED tax revenues (something we could also use right now)
Congress's out of control spending was the problem with Reagan's years and is also a problem now (with obama's full support)
George Bush Sr. had nothing to do with the S&L crisis
The gross debt chart you lnked to continues to go strait up under obama.

if you can't understand at least that much, get back to the drive thru window and stop posting at me. I'll only make you look stupid in the eyes of those who aren't.

directfiesta · 02-16-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Wow where ddi you get this BS from? Are you even going to bother quoting your "source"?

why would he .... you don't

Vendzilla · 02-16-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

Wow where did you find that BS? The debt grew faster under Reagan then any previous president. He doubled the national debt during his tenure and Bush Sr did worse until he was forced to raise taxes. Remember the RTC, Saving and Loans crisis, destruction of real estate prices? Yeah, he was a great pres if you sold guns and ammo, otherwise he pretty much sucked.

Just so you know, guns and ammo sales go up under democratic presidents,

I guess lowering taxes, stopping the cold war, lowering the unemployment rate, lowering inflation, these things mean nothing to you? He even lowered the price of gas by getting higher production of oil!

You must like war, paying high taxes, lots of people looking for work and paying higher prices.
Either that or you're an idiot, which is it?

nation-x · 02-16-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Reagan's tax cuts spurred the economy. spurring the economy is what we need right now.
Reagan's tax cuts RAISED tax revenues (something we could also use right now)
Congress's out of control spending was the problem with Reagan's years and is also a problem now (with obama's full support)
George Bush Sr. had nothing to do with the S&L crisis
The gross debt chart you lnked to continues to go strait up under obama.

if you can't understand at least that much, get back to the drive thru window and stop posting at me. I'll only make you look stupid in the eyes of those who aren't.

Nice pivot... you said he was being revisionist when he said that Reagan doubled the national debt... when I prove you wrong you start talking about a totally different subject. Thanks for trying to cover up your idiocracy (I know that isn't a word... it's a reference to your biography) by attempting to belittle me by saying I work in a drive thu, though. It's always amusing.

Bush Sr. was president during the S&L Crisis... that is what he had to do with it. If it happened under Obama you would say it was his fault... so don't start backpedaling now.

nico-t · 02-16-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

how could you see me when you spend your life like this?

Wow, that makes alot of sense. You need to get enlightened and see the big picture, but the older one gets the harder that's going to be. So there's no hope anymore for you, have fun in your simple minded black and white world

The Demon · 02-16-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

why would he .... you don't

Sorry if I don't take you seriously and put you in the category of "people too stupid even for GFY". I back up my sources MOST of the time, if not all the time. Try again.

The Demon · 02-16-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

Nice pivot... you said he was being revisionist when he said that Reagan doubled the national debt... when I prove you wrong you start talking about a totally different subject. Thanks for trying to cover up your idiocracy (I know that isn't a word... it's a reference to your biography) by attempting to belittle me by saying I work in a drive thu, though. It's always amusing.

Bush Sr. was president during the S&L Crisis... that is what he had to do with it. If it happened under Obama you would say it was his fault... so don't start backpedaling now.

You also failed to grasp anything 12 clicks has said..

The Demon · 02-16-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

Reagan's tax cuts spurred the economy. spurring the economy is what we need right now.
Reagan's tax cuts RAISED tax revenues (something we could also use right now)
Congress's out of control spending was the problem with Reagan's years and is also a problem now (with obama's full support)
George Bush Sr. had nothing to do with the S&L crisis
The gross debt chart you lnked to continues to go strait up under obama.

if you can't understand at least that much, get back to the drive thru window and stop posting at me. I'll only make you look stupid in the eyes of those who aren't.

Owned....

The Demon · 02-16-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Just so you know, guns and ammo sales go up under democratic presidents,

I guess lowering taxes, stopping the cold war, lowering the unemployment rate, lowering inflation, these things mean nothing to you? He even lowered the price of gas by getting higher production of oil!

You must like war, paying high taxes, lots of people looking for work and paying higher prices.
Either that or you're an idiot, which is it?

Owned x2

12clicks · 02-16-2010, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

Nice pivot... you said he was being revisionist when he said that Reagan doubled the national debt... when I prove you wrong you start talking about a totally different subject. Thanks for trying to cover up your idiocracy (I know that isn't a word... it's a reference to your biography) by attempting to belittle me by saying I work in a drive thu, though. It's always amusing.

Bush Sr. was president during the S&L Crisis... that is what he had to do with it. If it happened under Obama you would say it was his fault... so don't start backpedaling now.

go away , little boy.
HE pivoted. I brought it back to original subject.
run along

12clicks · 02-16-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

Wow, that makes alot of sense. You need to get enlightened and see the big picture, but the older one gets the harder that's going to be. So there's no hope anymore for you, have fun in your simple minded black and white world

the older one gets, the less they believe in the boogie man.
how was your day job?

StickyGreen · 02-16-2010, 02:49 PM

Damn you fucking idiots argue back and forth so pointlessly it's embarrassing. They've got us all pitted against each other as if we are each other's enemies while the real enemies have been controlling our government for decades. Snap the fuck out of it already... how can you really be that fucking blind?

You got your fucking Republican cheerleaders and your Democrat cheerleaders, as if one of those "parties" is going to save our country or something... you fools are so pathetic with your little "teams" that you represent. What happened to simply representing freedom and our country above everything else? Why not join together and oust the corruption from our government, regardless of your stupid little parties that you have been raised to believe in? Was your daddy a Democrat? Was your mommy a Republican? Is that why you will defend any fucking thing that a person from one of these stupid-ass parties says to the death?

Vendzilla · 02-16-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen

Damn you fucking idiots argue back and forth so pointlessly it's embarrassing. They've got us all pitted against each other as if we are each other's enemies while the real enemies have been controlling our government for decades. Snap the fuck out of it already... how can you really be that fucking blind?

You got your fucking Republican cheerleaders and your Democrat cheerleaders, as if one of those "parties" is going to save our country or something... you fools are so pathetic with your little "teams" that you represent. What happened to simply representing freedom and our country above everything else? Why not join together and oust the corruption from our government, regardless of your stupid little parties that you have been raised to believe in? Was your daddy a Democrat? Was your mommy a Republican? Is that why you will defend any fucking thing that a person from one of these stupid-ass parties says to the death?

For the record again, I use to be a republican, now I'm an independent that can't stand the lying going on in the WH

I loved Ronald Reagan, he didn't bow to the leader of China
I liked the times under Clinton After the GOP took over the house and the senate
I didn't like either Bush's, the second one should have left afghanistan after putting a big hole in the Taliban and should have never attacked Iraq, not our business
We should be using pure intelligence and sending in drones
The democrats have had control since 06 on the promise of change and what happened? the country went to shit and they can't agree on how to rip off the public
The GOP has no leadership and their best bet right now is Ex governor of Alaska that people that live in the city or back east just won't get and the liberal press attacks every little thing she does, yet her numbers keep climbing
I'm just pissed off at whats going on and judging by the numbers that Fox News is generating, most of the country feels the same way.

But to you it boils down to just the parties, well it doesn't, people look that I'm pissed at Obama and think I'm for everything that the GOP is feeding me, yes they have a better idea of what to do to overhaul health-care, like listen to the doctors( Gee That was hard!) and the core value of the GOP is smaller government and lower taxes, are you against that?
But the GOP has got to go back to it's core values to get me to vote that way and the dems just need a plan that makes sense

nation-x · 02-16-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

You also failed to grasp anything 12 clicks has said..

and you did? Congrats on your strong grasp of gibberish.

nation-x · 02-16-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

go away , little boy.
HE pivoted. I brought it back to original subject.
run along

Do you typically go around calling 40 year old men little boys? Do you fantasize about touching their peters too? YOUR SICK!

DudeRick · 02-16-2010, 05:12 PM

nico-t · 02-16-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

the older one gets, the less they believe in the boogie man.
how was your day job?

No use. Very original remark about the day job by the way. Clown

dyna mo · 02-16-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

We should be using pure intelligence and sending in drones

this is top-secret, hush hush, keep it on the down low-

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....702059817/1299

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/secret-war-9834410

TheDoc · 02-16-2010, 06:40 PM

Let's go for a Reagan top 10...

1) AIDS is a gay plague
2) Inflation
3) Spent mad money on a Star Wars Defense Plan
4) Sold weapons to Saddam Hussein
5) Sold weapons to Afghan rebels, many who are Taliban and al-Qaeda.
6) Arms for hostages and sold weapons to Iran as well, and used the money to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua
7) El Salvador aid in murdering its people
8) His deregulation created the 1989 savings-and-loan scandal
9) Amnesty for illegals
10) Reaganomics / Trickle down economics

And as a bonus, he joked about starting WW3 and made America live in fear basically the entire time.

So many reasons why I love Reagan... gota give him love for basically creating the radical right base!

Vendzilla · 02-16-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

this is top-secret, hush hush, keep it on the down low-

http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs....702059817/1299

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/secret-war-9834410

I knew about that stuff, I love reading about the new stuff that the military is putting out. When I was on the Submarine in the Navy, I got to play with some very top secret stuff, that was fun!

dyna mo · 02-16-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I knew about that stuff, I love reading about the new stuff that the military is putting out. When I was on the Submarine in the Navy, I got to play with some very top secret stuff, that was fun!

must of been interesting.

i must say, i can't ever tell where you are coming from. you say we should be using pure intelligence and sending in drones and that is exactly what we are doing.

but you then say you already knew that.

either way, just sayin. not a big deal, at least you are able to keep an adult convo going about subjects that we don't come from the same angle about.

Vendzilla · 02-16-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Let's go for a Reagan top 10...

1) AIDS is a gay plague
2) Inflation
3) Spent mad money on a Star Wars Defense Plan
4) Sold weapons to Saddam Hussein
5) Sold weapons to Afghan rebels, many who are Taliban and al-Qaeda.
6) Arms for hostages and sold weapons to Iran as well, and used the money to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua
7) El Salvador aid in murdering its people
8) His deregulation created the 1989 savings-and-loan scandal
9) Amnesty for illegals
10) Reaganomics / Trickle down economics

And as a bonus, he joked about starting WW3 and made America live in fear basically the entire time.

So many reasons why I love Reagan... gota give him love for basically creating the radical right base!

so let me get this straight, you blame Reagan for AIDS? Inflation was down from 12.5% in 1980 when he took over from Carter to 4.4% in 1988 when he left office, you seem to believe that Reagan was the only president that sold arms to other countries? Sorry, you're wrong on that account too.
Yes he gave amnesty to illegal aliens, but in the same bill made it illegal to hire illegal aliens, not really enforced and the Dem's are talking bout doing it again?
I'm happy with what the critics called Reaganomics, I benefited from it, I had a great paying job during the 80's building high rises.

You choice to look at only the negatives of the man that stopped the cold war, there by ending the USSR. The country was better off because of him.

Helix · 02-16-2010, 07:46 PM

Neither party is working, neither party will save us.
Set aside all of the legislation/rules/epa/bad trade agreements, kick start heavy industry and we can save ourselves.
This idea of being a service oriented economy doesn't work.

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TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Let's go for a Reagan top 10... 1) AIDS is a gay plague 2) Inflation 3) Spent mad money on a Star Wars Defense Plan 4) Sold weapons to Saddam Hussein 5) Sold weapons to Afghan rebels, many who are Taliban and al-Qaeda. 6) Arms for hostages and sold weapons to Iran as well, and used the money to fund an illegal war in Nicaragua 7) El Salvador aid in murdering its people 8) His deregulation created the 1989 savings-and-loan scandal 9) Amnesty for illegals 10) Reaganomics / Trickle down economics And as a bonus, he joked about starting WW3 and made America live in fear basically the entire time. So many reasons why I love Reagan... gota give him love for basically creating the radical right base! __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	The Demon, We're going to have to agree to disagree. Now we're down to debating economic theories. Arguing theories is a perpetual loop. You did give me one link I enjoyed: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1884...ls-jobs-report The charts there are essentially what I linked to, but I like how this guy breaks it down further. If I have a day of nothing planned in the future, it will send me on a fact-gathering mission to test his theories ... I like what he says. Fortunately for me, I am not one of the unemployed and do not have a lot of downtime. Having said that, I do suffer from burnout from time-to-time and you've provided me with something that piqued my interest. I give that blogger respect because he actually busts out the charts. With words, we can paint any picture we desire.

02-14-2010, 11:10 PM	#53
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	I'd like to add that in reality everything is a big fucked up ponzi-like scheme and you have more than a handful of developed nations manipulating things. I'm still looking for a reset button.

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StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	Dumbass Democrats and Republicans aimlessly arguing back and forth as usual I see... you motherfuckers will never learn...

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StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	Meanwhile in other news, 12 more innocent civilians killed in Afghanistan... Yay! Go USA! http://www.miamiherald.com/news/worl...y/1480191.html

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nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	funny but sad: doesnt matter who is president. The real people in charge do what the fuck they want. Taking sides between rep or dem is completely useless. There is no taking sides when there is only one side.

02-16-2010, 02:49 PM	#89
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	Damn you fucking idiots argue back and forth so pointlessly it's embarrassing. They've got us all pitted against each other as if we are each other's enemies while the real enemies have been controlling our government for decades. Snap the fuck out of it already... how can you really be that fucking blind? You got your fucking Republican cheerleaders and your Democrat cheerleaders, as if one of those "parties" is going to save our country or something... you fools are so pathetic with your little "teams" that you represent. What happened to simply representing freedom and our country above everything else? Why not join together and oust the corruption from our government, regardless of your stupid little parties that you have been raised to believe in? Was your daddy a Democrat? Was your mommy a Republican? Is that why you will defend any fucking thing that a person from one of these stupid-ass parties says to the death?

02-16-2010, 05:12 PM	#93
DudeRick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tobacco Road Posts: 1,568

02-16-2010, 07:46 PM	#100
Helix Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,963	Neither party is working, neither party will save us. Set aside all of the legislation/rules/epa/bad trade agreements, kick start heavy industry and we can save ourselves. This idea of being a service oriented economy doesn't work. __________________ Free jscott !!! Free OneHungLo !!! Free Baddog !!!