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Old 02-13-2010, 10:00 AM   #1
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Aspartame is now called Aminosweet

For anyone who hates the dangerous, shitty-tasting artificial sweetener Aspartame, be advised that the makers have renamed this garbage "Aminosweet" and they're marketing it as natural, healthy, yaddayadda...

Just a heads up.

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For anyone who hates the dangerous, shitty-tasting artificial sweetener Aspartame, be advised that the makers have renamed this garbage "Aminosweet" and they're marketing it as natural, healthy, yaddayadda...

Just a heads up.

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Good on ya for the heads up. That stuff will kill you.

FWIW, have you got a source?
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Thx, I use natural sugar. :D
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Good on ya for the heads up. That stuff will kill you.

FWIW, have you got a source?
http://www.aji-aspartame.eu/index.asp

http://www.naturalnews.com/028151_as...weeteners.html

http://www.foodbev.com/news/ajinomot...ame-aminosweet

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Thx, I use natural sugar. :D
Always a wise idea, in spite of the calories. A good rule of thumb is, if you can't afford the calories, don't take it sweet.
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Thanks bro, I hate that stuff!
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thanks for the heads up I also hate that stuff, nothing wrong with good old suger for me
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Old 02-13-2010, 01:25 PM   #10
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Woah, good sleuthing! Thanks for the warning!
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Fun fact: aspartame is sometimes made from a genetically modified version of E. Coli.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame

Chemistry

Aspartame is the methyl ester of the dipeptide of the natural amino acids L-aspartic acid and L-phenylalanine. Under strongly acidic or alkaline conditions, aspartame may generate methanol by hydrolysis. Under more severe conditions, the peptide bonds are also hydrolyzed, resulting in the free amino acids.[7]
In certain markets aspartame is manufactured using a genetically modified variation of E. coli.[8][9]
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A little aspartame won't kill you. I laugh at the jackasses that won't touch aspartame but pump their bodies full of taurine and sugar instead.

Personally I use Splenda as an artificial sweetner. For me it works just fine and I'm so used to it it tastes just fine. I don't use a whole lot, a packet a day in my coffee. Like anything, moderation is the key.

Artificial sweetners get a bad rep in general and for the most part it's not deserved. People often refer to something they call "aspartame obesity" and then use it as some sort of defacto proof that these "evil chemicals" are actually causing people to get fat.

Most often, it turns out, it's people that are swilling huge volumes of diet sodas and other sweet treats.

If you know anything about bio chemistry, you know the most anabolic substance in the body is not tesosterone but rather it is insulin. Insulin inhibits the burning of fat but promotes the growth of muscle. This is why you always have a simple carb, before or with your proten, immediately following a workout. It causes your blood sugar to spike forcing your body to produce an insulin reaction. Because your blood is already glycogen depleted, none of that sugar will be converted to fat and the insulin response will have an anabolic, or growth effect.

Blood sugar and insulin are relevant because in a large percentage of the population (I think it's as high as 20%) artificial sweetners can trigger an insulin reaction in the same way sugar does. So if you're already overweight without an active lifestyle and you simply switch to diet soda but chug it like you used to regular soda, yes you are not going to lose any weight at all. You're most probably still consuming excess calories and the frequent insulin responses, if you happen to fall within the population that responds to artificial sweetner with insulin responses, will keep the body from burning any stored fat.

Personally, I'd be far more worried about Fructose. The calories from Fructose can not be burned by any cell other than the liver. In fact, your body processes precisely in the same way it processes the poison ethanol (Alcohol).

Now you know.
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I'm not worried that having a glass of tea with fake sweetener now and then is going to kill me, but it tastes nasty. Splenda, Sweet N Low, all of them. Blech.
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A little aspartame won't kill you. I laugh at the jackasses that won't touch aspartame but pump their bodies full of taurine and sugar instead.

Personally I use Splenda as an artificial sweetner. For me it works just fine and I'm so used to it it tastes just fine. I don't use a whole lot, a packet a day in my coffee. Like anything, moderation is the key.

Artificial sweetners get a bad rep in general and for the most part it's not deserved. People often refer to something they call "aspartame obesity" and then use it as some sort of defacto proof that these "evil chemicals" are actually causing people to get fat.

Most often, it turns out, it's people that are swilling huge volumes of diet sodas and other sweet treats.

If you know anything about bio chemistry, you know the most anabolic substance in the body is not tesosterone but rather it is insulin. Insulin inhibits the burning of fat but promotes the growth of muscle. This is why you always have a simple carb, before or with your proten, immediately following a workout. It causes your blood sugar to spike forcing your body to produce an insulin reaction. Because your blood is already glycogen depleted, none of that sugar will be converted to fat and the insulin response will have an anabolic, or growth effect.

Blood sugar and insulin are relevant because in a large percentage of the population (I think it's as high as 20%) artificial sweetners can trigger an insulin reaction in the same way sugar does. So if you're already overweight without an active lifestyle and you simply switch to diet soda but chug it like you used to regular soda, yes you are not going to lose any weight at all. You're most probably still consuming excess calories and the frequent insulin responses, if you happen to fall within the population that responds to artificial sweetner with insulin responses, will keep the body from burning any stored fat.

Personally, I'd be far more worried about Fructose. The calories from Fructose can not be burned by any cell other than the liver. In fact, your body processes precisely in the same way it processes the poison ethanol (Alcohol).

Now you know.
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I avoid refined sugar like the plague. No sweets at all. I do however drink diet soda with Aspartame despite all the bad reports I have read about it. I think a lot of the bad rap with Aspartame is from people that are sensitive to it. It doesn't seem to bother me (at least right now).

Slowly replacing my diet pepsi addiction with green tea though to play it safe. Of course once I do that they will find a problem with green tea.

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Thanks for the heads up, that shit is PURE POISON!
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A little aspartame won't kill you. I laugh at the jackasses that won't touch aspartame but pump their bodies full of taurine and sugar instead.

Personally I use Splenda as an artificial sweetner. For me it works just fine and I'm so used to it it tastes just fine. I don't use a whole lot, a packet a day in my coffee. Like anything, moderation is the key.

Artificial sweetners get a bad rep in general and for the most part it's not deserved. People often refer to something they call "aspartame obesity" and then use it as some sort of defacto proof that these "evil chemicals" are actually causing people to get fat.

Most often, it turns out, it's people that are swilling huge volumes of diet sodas and other sweet treats.

If you know anything about bio chemistry, you know the most anabolic substance in the body is not tesosterone but rather it is insulin. Insulin inhibits the burning of fat but promotes the growth of muscle. This is why you always have a simple carb, before or with your proten, immediately following a workout. It causes your blood sugar to spike forcing your body to produce an insulin reaction. Because your blood is already glycogen depleted, none of that sugar will be converted to fat and the insulin response will have an anabolic, or growth effect.

Blood sugar and insulin are relevant because in a large percentage of the population (I think it's as high as 20%) artificial sweetners can trigger an insulin reaction in the same way sugar does. So if you're already overweight without an active lifestyle and you simply switch to diet soda but chug it like you used to regular soda, yes you are not going to lose any weight at all. You're most probably still consuming excess calories and the frequent insulin responses, if you happen to fall within the population that responds to artificial sweetner with insulin responses, will keep the body from burning any stored fat.

Personally, I'd be far more worried about Fructose. The calories from Fructose can not be burned by any cell other than the liver. In fact, your body processes precisely in the same way it processes the poison ethanol (Alcohol).

Now you know.
Aspertame has a crazy history.. read up on it.. Donald Rumsfeld behind it all...
sweet with no calories = lots of profit.. Who cares if it causes cancer. The FDA wouldn't pass it for years until the right people were appointed during the regan admin..facinating
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I need to kill off my heavy diet pepsi addiction as well... it's killing me. not literally, but, yeah.
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A little aspartame won't kill you. I laugh at the jackasses that won't touch aspartame but pump their bodies full of taurine and sugar instead.

Personally I use Splenda as an artificial sweetner. For me it works just fine and I'm so used to it it tastes just fine. I don't use a whole lot, a packet a day in my coffee. Like anything, moderation is the key.

Artificial sweetners get a bad rep in general and for the most part it's not deserved. People often refer to something they call "aspartame obesity" and then use it as some sort of defacto proof that these "evil chemicals" are actually causing people to get fat.

Most often, it turns out, it's people that are swilling huge volumes of diet sodas and other sweet treats.

If you know anything about bio chemistry, you know the most anabolic substance in the body is not tesosterone but rather it is insulin. Insulin inhibits the burning of fat but promotes the growth of muscle. This is why you always have a simple carb, before or with your proten, immediately following a workout. It causes your blood sugar to spike forcing your body to produce an insulin reaction. Because your blood is already glycogen depleted, none of that sugar will be converted to fat and the insulin response will have an anabolic, or growth effect.

Blood sugar and insulin are relevant because in a large percentage of the population (I think it's as high as 20%) artificial sweetners can trigger an insulin reaction in the same way sugar does. So if you're already overweight without an active lifestyle and you simply switch to diet soda but chug it like you used to regular soda, yes you are not going to lose any weight at all. You're most probably still consuming excess calories and the frequent insulin responses, if you happen to fall within the population that responds to artificial sweetner with insulin responses, will keep the body from burning any stored fat.

Personally, I'd be far more worried about Fructose. The calories from Fructose can not be burned by any cell other than the liver. In fact, your body processes precisely in the same way it processes the poison ethanol (Alcohol).

Now you know.
this is certainly conventional wisdom on the subject and my thinkng, as well.

that being said, i've been reading some interesting data that has recently been revealed to show that it is actually preferable to use whey as the means of increasing insulin as the carbs have shown they reduce growth hormone and IGF-1 levels post workout, whereas protein actually works to increase these at the same time as elevating protein synthesis. You therefore get a more pronounced anabolic effect with a protein and creatine combo post w/o.
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sugar is not natural, its man made drug.

If you want natural use Stevia.
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i use stevia for sweetening.

this is certainly conventional wisdom on the subject and my thinkng, as well.

that being said, i've been reading some interesting data that has recently been revealed to show that it is actually preferable to use whey as the means of increasing insulin as the carbs have shown they reduce growth hormone and IGF-1 levels post workout, whereas protein actually works to increase these at the same time as elevating protein synthesis. You therefore get a more pronounced anabolic effect with a protein and creatine combo post w/o.
Might be true but chances are you read that data in a fitness/Bodybuilding magazine.

These guys advertising revenue is 95% whey and creatine ads, there is hardly a single article where they don't try to sell you the whey/creatine combo, gotta stay in business
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Might be true but chances are you read that data in a fitness/Bodybuilding magazine.

These guys advertising revenue is 95% whey and creatine ads, there is hardly a single article where they don't try to sell you the whey/creatine combo, gotta stay in business
same operations sell post w/o nutrition, i have a shelf full of it and it ain't cheap.

btw, i read info on this elsewhere than a bb magazine/website.
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google for aspartame side effects ...

among many, these:
Psychological/Psychiatric
severe depression
irritability
aggression
anxiety
personality changes
insomnia
phobias

hmm, now that i look at it ... reads like g.w. bush's profile
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I use stevia whenever possible, but I'll have one or two diet drinks per day. I'm personally more worried about taking in too much high fructose corn syrup than I am about a moderate intake of aspartame or sucralose (Splenda). They should make some diet drinks sweetened with stevia and sweeten regular sodas with regular sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup. I think the US is the only place where they sweeten seemingly everything with high fructose corn syrup instead of just regular sugar. It's fucked up.
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Slowly replacing my diet pepsi addiction with green tea though to play it safe. Of course once I do that they will find a problem with green tea.
Make sure you read the label on that if you buy it bottled and don't make it yourself at home. Most of it is sweetened with aspartame (if it's diet) or high fructose corn syrup.

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