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Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 06:44 PM

.... who else has started moving into mainstream for the BULK of their online business?

I have read across the various boards that more people are splitting time between mainstream and adult, and either the EASE of the transition or the DIFFICULTY with so many more sharks chasing the same AdSense pennies.

mmcfadden · 02-17-2010, 06:47 PM

yes... solar energy right now

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

yes... solar energy right now

I thought you and your partner bought that fetish studio over in Philly?

mmcfadden · 02-17-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I thought you and your partner bought that fetish studio over in Philly?

Still do porn for sure. Just solar as well.

But to answer your question our landlord was being tough about getting out of the lease which he was already giving us a killer deal on... so last minute bail out

alias · 02-17-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I thought you and your partner bought that fetish studio over in Philly?

Solar powered studio?

plsureking · 02-17-2010, 06:51 PM

ya thats a good question lol

i havent done any major corporate work since before 2000 but i am planning on picking up some mainstream projects this year. my reason is just to get some stress free hours of the day, rather than just dealing with porn scumbags all the time.

i did a few teaser projects and mainstream traffic generation is a breeze after spending a decade in porn.

WiredGuy · 02-17-2010, 06:51 PM

There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

I thought your company line was, "there is no money in SEO"....

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mmcfadden

Still do porn for sure. Just solar as well.

But to answer your question our landlord was being tough about getting out of the lease which he was already giving us a killer deal on... so last minute bail out

Ah ok. Was just curious.

Last we had talked, you were looking to buy that fetish porn production deal there in Philly. So I was not sure if that had kept you busy and off the sauce or what?

Agent 488 · 02-17-2010, 06:58 PM

jumping in the shallow end is a goal for this year. been out of it for so long thing's have changed so much re: social media and shit.

XPays · 02-17-2010, 07:01 PM

http://Nonadult.com is expanding rapidly

new offers coming in March: acai, colon, get ripped & auto debt refi

Bman · 02-17-2010, 07:02 PM

More and more...Pay better, less hassles, more creativity, more clients...99% of business' sell something other then porn...

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 02-17-2010, 07:05 PM

I have no plans to get out of adult unless I stop making money in adult, but all of my serious growth and work is now in mainstream.

alias · 02-17-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

http://Nonadult.com is expanding rapidly

new offers coming in March: acai, colon, get ripped & auto debt refi

Looks good!

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

http://Nonadult.com is expanding rapidly

new offers coming in March: acai, colon, get ripped & auto debt refi

Interesting...

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bman

More and more...Pay better, less hassles, more creativity, more clients...99% of business' sell something other then porn...

Glad to hear you are thriving BROmance.

TheDoc · 02-17-2010, 07:11 PM

I have... a growing part of my business is mainstream business. I have also tested a ton of mainstream products, programs, from ppc to mail..

It's easier to make money in porn, its easier to make it from multiple sources, its easier to build traffic, it's easier to explore and not get raped, it's all around easier in adult.

It's easier to promote your program/products in adult, to adult affiliates than it is to mainstream affiliates. It's easier to get those affiliates to try new sites and products.

The difference is when you find something that makes money in mainstream, it has a bigger chance of making a lot more money - at the affiliate level for sure.

Anyone wanting to go mainstream I would truly start with yourself. Brand 'you', your name.. be super friendly/helpful, well before you try to sell, build a following around 'you' and when it comes time to sell them, it will be way easier to move them around, do giveaways, and give you social/viral bumps when asked.

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

I have no plans to get out of adult unless I stop making money in adult, but all of my serious growth and work is now in mainstream.

I hear you. My profit margins on my productions are still too good to leave adult. I really have no intention of ever leaving it. It will always make me money. Plus I enjoy shooting my own personal toe porns finances by the members and patrons. So there is no incentive for me to leave. Even if this industry crashed and burned, it would still be very profitable for me to still be in the markets I am in.

That said, I have dabbled in mainstream on and off over the years. I am actually looking to move up a few plans that have been on the back burner and test the water some more in 2010 to see how things go.

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

It's easier to make money in porn, its easier to make it from multiple sources, its easier to build traffic, it's easier to explore and not get raped, it's all around easier in adult.

True dat.

If you think adult is full of scammers and low lifes. You have not seen nothing until you have played in the mainstream boards, and markets for a few years. Some of the people are relentless and ruthless beyond anything I have seen in adult....

Voodoo · 02-17-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

I don't believe you.

Bman · 02-17-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I have... a growing part of my business is mainstream business. I have also tested a ton of mainstream products, programs, from ppc to mail..

It's easier to make money in porn, its easier to make it from multiple sources, its easier to build traffic, it's easier to explore and not get raped, it's all around easier in adult.

It's easier to promote your program/products in adult, to adult affiliates than it is to mainstream affiliates. It's easier to get those affiliates to try new sites and products.

The difference is when you find something that makes money in mainstream, it has a bigger chance of making a lot more money - at the affiliate level for sure.

Anyone wanting to go mainstream I would truly start with yourself. Brand 'you', your name.. be super friendly/helpful, well before you try to sell, build a following around 'you' and when it comes time to sell them, it will be way easier to move them around, do giveaways, and give you social/viral bumps when asked.

Well said!

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Voodoo

I don't believe you.

$5 submissions · 02-17-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

heheeh

Sosa · 02-17-2010, 07:52 PM

Yep, have been for quite a while now.

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Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 07:57 PM

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beemk · 02-17-2010, 08:58 PM

chasing the same adsense pennies? if you think that the bulk of money in mainstream is in promoting adsense you're a bigger idiot than i initially thought you were.

Barefootsies · 02-17-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

chasing the same adsense pennies? if you think that the bulk of money in mainstream is in promoting adsense you're a bigger idiot than i initially thought you were.

Funny how most others, with a brain, in the thread caught the sarcasm other than you, fucking retard.

Hence the remark about 'pennies'.

Jack Sparrow · 02-18-2010, 02:16 AM

3d movies and 3d home cinema is the road i follow besides porn.

Farang · 02-18-2010, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you.
WG

Barefootsies · 02-18-2010, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mrfrisky

3d movies and 3d home cinema is the road i follow besides porn.

Interesting sire.

candyflip · 02-18-2010, 07:35 AM

Most of my work is mainstream at this point. When I noticed things going downhill a few years back I decided to go more mainstream instead of coming up with something new in adult.

Kard63 · 02-18-2010, 08:26 AM

Do any mainstream companies give you the opportunity to sell like a retailer? They all feel scammy.

fuzebox · 02-18-2010, 08:51 AM

I've tried several times over the last couple of years and failed...

FrozenJag · 02-18-2010, 08:57 AM

100 percent adult here. Dont plan on changing anytime soon either.

Its too bad people dont go into more detail other then "mainstream".

Atleast a few people mentioned niches which is really cool.

Barefootsies · 02-18-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I've tried several times over the last couple of years and failed...

Really?

Thanks for the honesty. You are such a driven mofo, I can't see you failing when you go at something 100% but I suppose it can happen.

Barefootsies · 02-18-2010, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

100 percent adult here. Dont plan on changing anytime soon either.

Its too bad people dont go into more detail other then "mainstream".

Atleast a few people mentioned niches which is really cool.

It is the old adult/online mentality. If you mention something, then by tomorrow morning you will have 1000 competitors overnight. Ya know... those who have the capital and time on hand to drop everything else they are doing right now, and who will somehow manage to do everything you are doing 100% and make 500% times more money.

As most people know, who've been doing this a few years anyway, you can give someone the exact blue print of everything you are doing, and they can still fail (or do better). There is always something missing. Whether it is the drive, consistency or endless other things in the equation.

FrozenJag · 02-18-2010, 09:02 AM

What are some of the popular mainstream webmaster boards?

I wouldnt mind having a look see.

Barefootsies · 02-18-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

What are some of the popular mainstream webmaster boards?

I wouldnt mind having a look see.

sitepoint
wickedfire
digitalpoint
IQ69

...to name a few.

However, get your waders on. You're gonna need em.

I can assure you that you will have a new found appreciation for the adult industry after you have spent some time reading and researching on mainstream boards.

FrozenJag · 02-18-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

It is the old adult/online mentality. If you mention something, then by tomorrow morning you will have 1000 competitors overnight. Ya know... those who have the capital and time on hand to drop everything else they are doing right now, and who will somehow manage to do everything you are doing 100% and make 500% times more money.

As most people know, who've been doing this a few years anyway, you can give someone the exact blue print of everything you are doing, and they can still fail (or do better). There is always something missing. Whether it is the drive, consistency or endless other things in the equation.

True That.

I can kindof understand that but hell just mentioning your general niche and even type of site probably wont make 2 shits on an adult board. Probably 1000 other people doing it anyway.

It seems like adult webmasters are pretty open to what they are doing, but when it comes to mainstream they all of a sudden put a huge guard up.

alias · 02-18-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

True That.

I can kindof understand that but hell just mentioning your general niche and even type of site probably wont make 2 shits on an adult board. Probably 1000 other people doing it anyway.

It seems like adult webmasters are pretty open to what they are doing, but when it comes to mainstream they all of a sudden put a huge guard up.

The profitable niches in mainstream are often very small and the traffic is a lot more costly and/or harder to get.

FrozenJag · 02-18-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

sitepoint
wickedfire
digitalpoint
IQ69

...to name a few.

However, get your waders on. You're gonna need em.

I can assure you that you will have a new found appreciation for the adult industry after you have spent some time reading and researching on mainstream boards.

Thanks brother man.

haha, yeah we are all a special breed. No doubt about it.

FrozenJag · 02-18-2010, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by alias

The profitable niches in mainstream are often very small and the traffic is a lot more costly and/or harder to get.

I see. Must be why seo guys like it so well. Maybe I should have a look afterall.

haha, love your sig man. I actually laughed out loud for real.

alias · 02-18-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FrozenJag

haha, love your sig man. I actually laughed out loud for real.

Thanks dude, try making your own product & billing for mainstream. If you think adult has some weasels and scumbags, wait until you check out non-adult.

That is the nice thing about GFY, you post here and everyone knows what is up.

Mainstream there is no centralized site to get the info. Simply change your nick, IP, domain & email and hit another board or go right back to the same one you got nailed on.

czarina · 02-18-2010, 09:35 AM

still 70% of my business is adult, but I've been slowly edging more and more towards mainstream.

Barefootsies · 02-18-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by alias

Thanks dude, try making your own product & billing for mainstream. If you think adult has some weasels and scumbags, wait until you check out non-adult.

That is the nice thing about GFY, you post here and everyone knows what is up.

Mainstream there is no centralized site to get the info. Simply change your nick, IP, domain & email and hit another board or go right back to the same one you got nailed on.

Summed up nicely.

Phoenix · 02-18-2010, 09:40 AM

im checking out mainstream bigtime right now

i see many opportunities for things done in adult...to be brought to mainstream

lets hope my idea pans out

Barefootsies · 02-18-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

lets hope my idea pans out

fuzebox · 02-18-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Really?

Thanks for the honesty. You are such a driven mofo, I can't see you failing when you go at something 100% but I suppose it can happen.

I hardly do anything 100%

Plus when I don't see instant results I get discouraged.

I've only ever done organic seo, having a hard time getting the same results with non-adult terms... I got a large (mainstream niche) network I've been working on for 3 months now that has yet to show significant traffic.

Barefootsies · 02-18-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

I hardly do anything 100%

Plus when I don't see instant results I get discouraged.

I've only ever done organic seo, having a hard time getting the same results with non-adult terms... I got a large (mainstream niche) network I've been working on for 3 months now that has yet to show significant traffic.

Ah.

Note to self: Reevaluate perception of da Fuzebox tootsie work ethic.

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02-17-2010, 06:51 PM	#6
plsureking bored Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Metaverse Posts: 4,675	ya thats a good question lol i havent done any major corporate work since before 2000 but i am planning on picking up some mainstream projects this year. my reason is just to get some stress free hours of the day, rather than just dealing with porn scumbags all the time. i did a few teaser projects and mainstream traffic generation is a breeze after spending a decade in porn. __________________ #

02-17-2010, 06:51 PM	#7
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,455	There's no money in mainstream. Please keep doing porn. Thank you. WG __________________ I play with Google.

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02-17-2010, 06:47 PM	#2
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02-17-2010, 06:58 PM	#10
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	jumping in the shallow end is a goal for this year. been out of it for so long thing's have changed so much re: social media and shit.

02-17-2010, 07:05 PM	#13
Ayla_SquareTurtle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 5000 full paysite reviews and counting Posts: 3,550	I have no plans to get out of adult unless I stop making money in adult, but all of my serious growth and work is now in mainstream. __________________ gone. long gone. aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

02-17-2010, 07:11 PM	#17
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I have... a growing part of my business is mainstream business. I have also tested a ton of mainstream products, programs, from ppc to mail.. It's easier to make money in porn, its easier to make it from multiple sources, its easier to build traffic, it's easier to explore and not get raped, it's all around easier in adult. It's easier to promote your program/products in adult, to adult affiliates than it is to mainstream affiliates. It's easier to get those affiliates to try new sites and products. The difference is when you find something that makes money in mainstream, it has a bigger chance of making a lot more money - at the affiliate level for sure. Anyone wanting to go mainstream I would truly start with yourself. Brand 'you', your name.. be super friendly/helpful, well before you try to sell, build a following around 'you' and when it comes time to sell them, it will be way easier to move them around, do giveaways, and give you social/viral bumps when asked. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	Yep, have been for quite a while now.

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02-17-2010, 08:58 PM	#27
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	chasing the same adsense pennies? if you think that the bulk of money in mainstream is in promoting adsense you're a bigger idiot than i initially thought you were. __________________ I host with Vacares

02-18-2010, 02:16 AM	#29
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	3d movies and 3d home cinema is the road i follow besides porn.

02-18-2010, 07:35 AM	#32
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,057	Most of my work is mainstream at this point. When I noticed things going downhill a few years back I decided to go more mainstream instead of coming up with something new in adult. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

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02-18-2010, 08:51 AM	#34
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,033	I've tried several times over the last couple of years and failed...

02-18-2010, 08:57 AM	#35
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	100 percent adult here. Dont plan on changing anytime soon either. Its too bad people dont go into more detail other then "mainstream". Atleast a few people mentioned niches which is really cool.

02-18-2010, 09:02 AM	#38
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	What are some of the popular mainstream webmaster boards? I wouldnt mind having a look see.

02-18-2010, 09:35 AM	#45
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,745	still 70% of my business is adult, but I've been slowly edging more and more towards mainstream.

02-18-2010, 09:40 AM	#47
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