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Old 03-07-2010, 09:26 PM   #51
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Old 03-07-2010, 11:27 PM   #53
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All I know it that NIST's Investigation of the Sept. 11 is complete bunk. We need a REAL investigation.
It has been one of the most...if not the most...investigated event in the history of our country. Who is it that you want to investigate the event...the government again? It is really not important who investigates it...as their will never be an investigation that will appease everyone.
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It has been one of the most...if not the most...investigated event in the history of our country. Who is it that you want to investigate the event...the government again? It is really not important who investigates it...as their will never be an investigation that will appease everyone.
I do agree with you there. Enough info is out there for each individual to draw their own conclusions, which matters the most in my opinion.
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It has been one of the most...if not the most...investigated event in the history of our country. Who is it that you want to investigate the event...the government again? It is really not important who investigates it...as their will never be an investigation that will appease everyone.
actually bill clintons blowjob got more of an investigation
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:08 AM   #57
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of course i posted someone else's work, go ahead and use your knowledge of chemisty, physics and math to dispute it, i've yet to see you nor the op even address it in a critically thinking manner, or even acknowledge that it *could* be correct.

feel free to post YOUR personal work on the matter, since you seem to think that it's important that I post MY work on the subject, else my view is moot.

see, that's the problem with you and the op and others like you, you watch a youtube video or 3 and think *that sounds good in my paranoid view* yet you don't critique that alternative view in any way or think for yourself about that angle, you are simply quick to jet to GFY to share this revelation with all the others who've yet to be amazed and overwhelmed with all this conclusive evidence in the contrary.


please, either you or the op come back with how much nano-thermite it would take to bring down the towers and bldg 7.


go on, do your own work (since you value that from me, discounting my view for lacking it) and prove to all of us you want to agree with you that you are more enlightened than the rest of us.

how much nano-thermite does it take to bring down those buildings?
you are about 5 years to late for me to bother with it
im just having fun in this thread
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actually bill clintons blowjob got more of an investigation
Hah you're right, i'm not sure of the figures, but the amount of money spent investigating bill was wayyyyyy more.
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Old 03-08-2010, 01:46 PM   #60
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Hah you're right, i'm not sure of the figures, but the amount of money spent investigating bill was wayyyyyy more.
this clearly reveals a conspiracy of the highest order. what an impressive success for the u.s. government-

commit the most sophisticated conspiracy in the history of mankind and then cover it up by pointing out spending more on investigating clinton getting a bj, that will throw everyone off the trail for sure!

- fucking BRILLIANT!

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Old 03-08-2010, 01:59 PM   #61
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this clearly reveals a conspiracy of the highest order. what an impressive success for the u.s. government-

commit the most sophisticated conspiracy in the history of mankind and then cover it up by pointing out spending more on investigating clinton getting a bj, that will throw everyone off the trail for sure!

- fucking BRILLIANT!
i dont think the us government pointed it out

we did..and so did a bunch of other people

but the us government surely never pointed this out..why would they?

btw the us government is for the most part a bunch of lazy politicians

its a small minority of them, who have interests in major war corporations that need to be looked at closely...of course that is just all coincidental

anyway, im done in this thread...i did my part over 5 years ago before you heard of gfy
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i dont think the us government pointed it out

we did..and so did a bunch of other people

but the us government surely never pointed this out..why would they?

btw the us government is for the most part a bunch of lazy politicians

its a small minority of them, who have interests in major war corporations that need to be looked at closely...of course that is just all coincidental

anyway, im done in this thread...i did my part over 5 years ago before you heard of gfy

there you go assuming shit again. been around since 2000 making money in adult.

it's more than silly to think post count has anything to do with any of this.

classic that you think your part is to inform gfy of youtube videos but hey, you're the smart guy that nothing gets past.

still waiting on the cut & paste of all your work on this subject, in part. how much nano-thermite it takes to bring those buildings down. should be easy as you keep referring to it as some big effort so you must of kept all your *data*
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there you go assuming shit again. been around since 2000 making money in adult.

it's more than silly to think post count has anything to do with any of this.

classic that you think your part is to inform gfy of youtube videos but hey, you're the smart guy that nothing gets past.

still waiting on the cut & paste of all your work on this subject, in part. how much nano-thermite it takes to bring those buildings down. should be easy as you keep referring to it as some big effort so you must of kept all your *data*
oh you been around since 2000

and regged in 2008 lol

im done with it...my mistake for coming into this thread

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Old 03-08-2010, 02:12 PM   #64
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oh you been around since 2000

and regged in 2008 lol

im done with it...my mistake for coming into this thread

no amount of common sense will prevail to ostrich syndrome

yup, look, i don't have anything to prove to you, i prefer to stay anon and will continue to do so just as you will continue to assume you know wtf you are talking about.
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So many in this thread are going to have a tough time in life
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no doubt, by the way, you gave me some very good advice many many years ago. you and i were chatting on the phone one day and you asked if i have any questions about business that i wanted to ask you.

so i asked what's the most important thing i should do for long term success and you replied simply, "diversify."

i took your advice, thank you.
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So many in this thread are going to have a tough time in life
Yes blindly follow the government and the news thanks I'm learning to be a good sheep. P.S. send me that bible when you get a chance, I don't have enough guilt in my life.

Why is asking questions so bad.. its like saying jesus didn't exist.. people are quick to hang you from a tree.
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Honestly I'd love to be wrong . Noone has even come close to proving the official story though.
Phoenix sorry for starting this thread I see you been at this for a long time. The matrix is pretty strong. jeez. This is my last post in this thread.. just let it fall and fall back to sleep.
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Honestly I'd love to be wrong .
what makes you think you are right? the lack of critical thinking certainly shows you haven't even approached the topic intelligently.

seriously. you watch a couple youtube videos and that's that- you are right, everything official is wrong.

figure out how much nano-thermite it takes to bring down those buildings and then come back to this thread with a better view.
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Anyone who believes that there was a government conspiracy behind 9/11 is A FUCKING IDIOT!
Oh no not the university educated guy!! Wait all these engineers and scientists are university educated too. . Sucks for you.
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the irony is you 2 skoffing at this while giving credit to the same government for successfully completing what could easily be the most sophisticated conspiracy ever.
Our government could not pull that shit off. Not with TMZ on the job.lol



Arguing with dyna mo is a no win situation when he has proven facts on his side vs. other peoples general theories and conspiracy plots.





The building 7 thing doesn't sit to well with me, but im not gonna put my aluminum hat on and make claims that the US government did it.
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Our government could not pull that shit off. Not with TMZ on the job.lol



Arguing with dyna mo is a no win situation when he has proven facts on his side vs. other peoples general theories and conspiracy plots.





The building 7 thing doesn't sit to well with me, but im not gonna put my aluminum hat on and make claims that the US government did it.
DAAAAAAAAAAAVE! what's up amigo, how's things in the valley? you have a crazy shoot schedule this week? i've got to head out that way later this week, we should get together for lunch or something.
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No matter what you believe about the 9-11 conspiracy I'm sure we can all agree that was some pretty good flying done by the Hijackers. I mean even pilots with years of flying time with the same planes say they couldn't have pulled of the same maneuvers. Not bad for a couple of cave dwellers to do it and hit 90% of their targets. Hell they even managed to take down a building they didn't even hit. Truly an amazing accomplishment.
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"Gage has worked as an architect for twenty years and was involved in the construction of numerous fireproof steel-frame buildings."

One of my best friends is a fucking architect, and he's designed thousands of "fireproof steel frame buildings". Being a fucking architect who has designed a handful of one story buildings doesn't qualify him to speak about jack fucking shit.

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I don't see why why this is so unbelievable, you'll accept the 9/11 commission report which said building 7 fell by fire, and deny what over 700 arch's and engineers say, funny.

These guys put their careers (and lives) on the line to share this info, something that most "patriots" would never do.
Yes, blah blah blah, 700 architects are crying that something is wrong here. Yet 10 billion others are silent. Which pretty much explains that out of every group, there will always be a handful of idiots.
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I think its very believable that Bush commando ninjas could sneak into the busiest site in NYC every day for months with tons of explosives and drilling equipment, and hide the miles and miles of wiring behind some desks while the workers were at the water cooler or making copies. It's also believable that none of these Ninja/Engineers blew the whistle on the whole thing over the guilt of killing thousands of Americans. It's highly probably this plan could executed to perfection by an evil, sneaky regime that wasn't smart enough to hide some old WMDs in the Iraqi desert to justify a war. I believe all of that, as crazy as it sounds.
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Remember the official story was spewed out very very quickly after this happened.
How many of you people who think truthers are crazy have even read the 9/11 report?
Here is a NIST scientist denying molten steel.. great video may I add. Please debunk this video guys. I'm really open. All I mostly hear is how retarded I am but I can take it. I don't take this conversation and judge people by it and I still join your programs.



Here is a nice short video of the 9/11 commissioner talking about sept 11.

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And if you mix all three together you get...



There are so many variables involved from the twin tower location alone that every time I hear 'experts' start discussing all three buildings and bring up nano thermite, I have to shake my head. I have already mentioned to you the fact that the first tower going down registered on the richter scale 20+ miles away. Imagine the effect it had on the shared concrete basement complex and solid rock it was sitting on.

There is also a HUGE difference between 9/11 being an inside job and there being a cover-up after the fact by people who had their asses on the line for not doing their jobs properly in the first place and the whole situation being a complete clusterfuck.

I can site one specific example from personal experience which was flight 93 slamming in to the field in Pennsylvania. When it first happened, there were interviews with witnesses going live on the radio stating that they saw a military aircraft shoot it down. This was immediately after, not weeks or even days later. This version of the story quickly vanished in the media. But let me ask you this - how are the people on the flight better remembered and honored? As collateral damage, or as heroes who took action and sacrificed themselves as patriots for the greater good?

Where do I stand on 9/11? There is no doubt in my mind that there was a cover-up of facts after the events took place so average people would not realize how badly their government and defense systems failed them in an actual time of crisis.
Only rational post I've seen in this thread.

Anyone who claims either side as fact is not being rational by any means. Only the first responders and higher-ups in the .gov know the true story. And none of us will ever know. Perhaps our grand children will find out, but we most likely never will unless a civil war happens or something similar.
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I can tell you quite simply why 9/11 was not an "inside" job (whatever the hell that means). The reason is that had it been, someone would have spilled the beans. Our government cannot keep any secrets and they cannot do anything of that magnitude correctly. It would have taken an army of people all doing an incredibly perfect job to pull something like that off. And yet not one person out of hundreds comes forward with the truth? No freakin' way.

Plus, as the guy points out, no one had ever seen massive, towering skyscraper fall from fire-related devastation. And yet he (and so many others) say it doesn't look right the way they fell. Well how the hell would he know what it was supposed to look like, since no one had ever seen it happen before? These people are all selling something, him included.
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Anyone who claims either side as fact is not being rational by any means.
well, ftr, i haven't claimed either side. but i will go ahead and tell you all exactly what is going on-

the 9/11 conspiracy is the REAL conspiracy. fact is, the u.s government is responsible for creating the conspiracy that they were responsible for 9/11.

think about it, what better way to make you all sheeple than to create the illusion that the government successfully pulled off the most sophisticated conspiracy ever. only an entity so completely in charge and in control could do such a thing

and this thread proves that the government was successful, all the conspiracy theorist prove the government's omniscient powers by advancing the government's agenda that they did in fact do it.

now go ahead and debunk that.

i'm waiting............
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Ever heard of the Northwoods Document?
They pretty much drew up the same kinda plan in the 60's.

Check it here.

Of course they wouldn't think of something like this today.
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i agree. all conspiracies promote and illusion that the power elites are not the bumbling morons they are.

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well, ftr, i haven't claimed either side. but i will go ahead and tell you all exactly what is going on-

the 9/11 conspiracy is the REAL conspiracy. fact is, the u.s government is responsible for creating the conspiracy that they were responsible for 9/11.

think about it, what better way to make you all sheeple than to create the illusion that the government successfully pulled off the most sophisticated conspiracy ever. only an entity so completely in charge and in control could do such a thing

and this thread proves that the government was successful, all the conspiracy theorist prove the government's omniscient powers by advancing the government's agenda that they did in fact do it.

now go ahead and debunk that.

i'm waiting............
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Old 03-08-2010, 11:51 PM   #89
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well, ftr, i haven't claimed either side. but i will go ahead and tell you all exactly what is going on-

the 9/11 conspiracy is the REAL conspiracy. fact is, the u.s government is responsible for creating the conspiracy that they were responsible for 9/11.

think about it, what better way to make you all sheeple than to create the illusion that the government successfully pulled off the most sophisticated conspiracy ever. only an entity so completely in charge and in control could do such a thing

and this thread proves that the government was successful, all the conspiracy theorist prove the government's omniscient powers by advancing the government's agenda that they did in fact do it.

now go ahead and debunk that.

i'm waiting............
Yes now the people that question the government and the news are the sheeple... love it.

This video is great.. Reporting building 7 Collapsed already while its still behind her

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"Gage has worked as an architect for twenty years and was involved in the construction of numerous fireproof steel-frame buildings."

One of my best friends is a fucking architect, and he's designed thousands of "fireproof steel frame buildings". Being a fucking architect who has designed a handful of one story buildings doesn't qualify him to speak about jack fucking shit.



Yes, blah blah blah, 700 architects are crying that something is wrong here. Yet 10 billion others are silent. Which pretty much explains that out of every group, there will always be a handful of idiots.
10 billlion eh...they must live off planet
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“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Nazi Propaganda minister
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Old 03-09-2010, 04:22 AM   #92
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Yes now the people that question the government and the news are the sheeple... love it.

This video is great.. Reporting building 7 Collapsed already while its still behind her

i want to believe your theory, i really do, but you haven't proven the theory i posited as false.

please debunk it so i can believe your official theory.

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