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mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:01 AM

And, the irony of you pulling out me using the strawman argument is quite humorous when this entire thread has been nothing more than your circular reasoning.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Then give me one founding principle that you believe has not changed in 200 years.

I'll see if I can show you otherwise.

Wow, you've just proven that you know absolutely nothing. I can't believe I have to do this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution

They're called amendments. Some new ones were ratified, some old ones were repealed. You sure you were a pol sci major? Rofl

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Wow, you've just proven that you know absolutely nothing. I can't believe I have to do this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution

They're called amendments. Some new ones were ratified, some old ones were repealed. You sure you were a pol sci major? Rofl

So, you're saying the Constitution is a founding principle?

Is this a joke?

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

And, the irony of you pulling out me using the strawman argument is quite humorous when this entire thread has been nothing more than your circular reasoning.

And the "I like to bullshit using words I don't know" hilarity continues.

Furthermore, even if I WAS using circular reasoning (I wasn't, and you don't know what that is), it still wouldn't be a strawman. Thank you, come again

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

So, you're saying the Constitution is a founding principle?

Is this a joke?

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Originally Posted by The Demon View Post
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman

I think I'll stop now, this is too easy.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

To get back on topic of THIS reply, I'm still waiting on your yes or no answer on whether or not you cited Wikipedia in an attempt to prove someone wrong.

Irrelevant misdirection. The short answer is no, the long answer is, even if I did, it wouldn't change the validity of the article.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

And the "I like to bullshit using words I don't know" hilarity continues.

Furthermore, even if I WAS using circular reasoning (I wasn't, and you don't know what that is), it still wouldn't be a strawman. Thank you, come again

Hey Turbo, I never claimed you used a strawman argument. I claimed you've been using circular reasoning, follow along.

And 0 circular reasoning?

Rofl, I can point out multiple cases on this page alone.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

I think I'll stop now, this is too easy.

I'll help you.

The Constitution is NOT a founding principle.

A collection of founding principles? Yes. A founding princple? No.

What are you having issues with?

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Hey Turbo, I never claimed you used a strawman argument. I claimed you've been using circular reasoning, follow along.

And 0 circular reasoning?

Rofl, I can point out multiple cases on this page alone.

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And, the irony of you pulling out me using the strawman argument is quite humorous when this entire thread has been nothing more than your circular reasoning.

What I infer from that is that you insinuated it

Otherwise you'd have absolutely no reason to post that other than your stupidity.

And please, I'm having fun with a little kid. So far all I've heard is "I can do this and that." Go ahead.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Irrelevant misdirection. The short answer is no, the long answer is, even if I did, it wouldn't change the validity of the article.

If your multiple citations of Wikipedia in this thread are not that of to teach and to prove incorrect, then what are they?

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

I'll help you.

The Constitution is NOT a founding principle.

A collection of founding principles? Yes. A founding princple? No.

What are you having issues with?

Jesus Christ, can you read, or do you want me to hold your hand? The fact that you need to split hairs shows your desperation. I'll try and dumb it down.

The.Constitution.Contains.Founding.Principles.That .Still.Exist.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

If your multiple citations of Wikipedia in this thread are not that of to teach and to prove incorrect, then what are they?

Uh, to educate the ideology this country was upon? Are you even 18?

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

What I infer from that is that you insinuated it

Otherwise you'd have absolutely no reason to post that other than your stupidity.

And please, I'm having fun with a little kid. So far all I've heard is "I can do this and that." Go ahead.

What I pointed out is the direct correlation between a straw man argument and circular reasoning.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Jesus Christ, can you read, or do you want me to hold your hand? The fact that you need to split hairs shows your desperation. I'll try and dumb it down.

The.Constitution.Contains.Founding.Principles.That .Still.Exist.

Of course they still exist.

I never contended that. What I DID contend is that they've been the principles our country was founded upon which is WRONG.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

What I pointed out is the direct correlation between a straw man argument and circular reasoning.

When there is none

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Uh, to educate the ideology this country was upon? Are you even 18?

Alright, now that we've made that clear, it's clear that you didn't know that, "educate" and "teach" are synonyms that have the same definitions.

In short, the answer to your question is, "yes".

That was simple, no? You tried fighting like a little baby about this.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Of course they still exist.

I never contended that. What I DID contend is that they've been the principles our country was founded upon which is WRONG.

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Then give me one founding principle that you believe has not changed in 200 years.

So you don't remember the bullshit you're trying to follow, is that what you're telling me?

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Wow, you've just proven that you know absolutely nothing. I can't believe I have to do this..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution

They're called amendments. Some new ones were ratified, some old ones were repealed. You sure you were a pol sci major? Rofl

Circular reasoning.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Alright, now that we've made that clear, it's clear that you didn't know that, "educate" and "teach" are synonyms that have the same definitions.

HAHAHAHAHA priceless

I don't think even TheDoc or BFT3K try and fail this hard at being intelligent.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Circular reasoning.

That's not called proof. That's called typing out a word and hope that I don't continue calling you out on your bullshit and making you look utterly retarded.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

I would suggest you read over those 3-4 posts again to find out why I posted the link, but I suspect you won't be able to since your only real intention is to try to impress people with your knowledge.

Does this refresh your memory? Seems as though you're the one struggling to remember who said what.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:15 AM

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That's not called proof. That's called typing out a word and hope that I don't continue calling you out on your bullshit and making you look utterly retarded.

Again, circular reasoning.

You haven't disproved a thing.

What you have done is skirt my asking of you to show me A principle that has been the same the past 200 years. I'm still waiting.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Does this refresh your memory? Seems as though you're the one struggling to remember who said what.

Wait a second, how does this tie into ANYTHING? Oh my, you're definitely lagging now. Posting random nonsense hoping the main point gets jumbled up so you can save face? Listen junior, shouldn't you be at recess? Arguing with your intellectual superiors isn't how I would like to spend my lunch time.

Kolargol · 03-19-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

These people are beyond stupid and probably have no idea what socialism even means. They believe everything they hear on FOX news, so you can't expect them to think for themselves.

socialism is the greatest place on Earth people run away from to the horrible USA.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Wait a second, how does this tie into ANYTHING? Oh my, you're definitely lagging now. Posting random nonsense hoping the main point gets jumbled up so you can save face? Listen junior, shouldn't you be at recess? Arguing with your intellectual superiors isn't how I would like to spend my lunch time.

Save face? That was your reply to:

Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post
Are you insinuating you did not reference Wikipedia to both "teach" someone and "prove them wrong" in the same attempt?

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Again, circular reasoning.

Repeating a concept doesn't make it true

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ou haven't disproved a thing.

I don't have to. That would be trying to prove a negative, another fallacy.

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What you have done is skirt my asking of you to show me A principle that has been the same the past 200 years. I'm still waiting.

And we're back to square one. I told you to read the amendments. There's no issue to skirt because you don't know what you're talking about

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Repeating a concept doesn't make it true

I don't have to. That would be trying to prove a negative, another fallacy.

And we're back to square one. I told you to read the amendments. There's no issue to skirt because you don't know what you're talking about

I understand perfectly. What you're not understanding is that an amendment changes the FOUNDING PRINCIPLES.

You claimed we have had the same principles for 200 years, and I called you out on your bullshit. It's pretty linear.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Save face? That was your reply to:

Originally Posted by mgtarheels View Post
Are you insinuating you did not reference Wikipedia to both "teach" someone and "prove them wrong" in the same attempt?

Actually, this is what you posted

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To get back on topic of THIS reply, I'm still waiting on your yes or no answer on whether or not you cited Wikipedia in an attempt to prove someone wrong.

Keep trying mgtarheels, you might get there one day.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Actually, this is what you posted

Keep trying mgtarheels, you might get there one day.

You still don't get it. This is a forehead slapper.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

You still don't get it. This is a forehead slapper.

There's nothing to get junior, you can't even pinpoint your argument, prefering to bounce from one point to another, hoping your pseudo intellect is somehow validated. You keep failing though.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

I understand perfectly. What you're not understanding is that an amendment changes the FOUNDING PRINCIPLES.

You claimed we have had the same principles for 200 years, and I called you out on your bullshit. It's pretty linear.

Any reason you're skipping this?

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

There's nothing to get junior, you can't even pinpoint your argument, prefering to bounce from one point to another, hoping your pseudo intellect is somehow validated. You keep failing though.

Circular reasoning.

I've made both arguments very clear.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:40 AM

Hmm, looks like Poli Sci grads know something after all. I've to head out for the day, g'day all.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Circular reasoning.

Again, saying the concept repeatedly doesn't make it so.

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I've made both arguments very clear.

You'd have to have an "argument" to make an argument clear.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Hmm, looks like Poli Sci grads know something after all. I've to head out for the day, g'day all.

Yep, you guys know how to throw out concepts you don't understand in order to sound intelligent. You also know how to properly skirt around legitimate arguments, trying to make irrelevant points and just making an ass out of yourself. You were incredibly easy to deal with

Tom_PM · 03-19-2010, 10:46 AM

It's the "never give up" strategy.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Any reason you're skipping this?

Yea, it doesn't make any bit of sense. Let me know when your GPA surpasses a 2.0.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_tom

it's the "never give up" strategy.

hahahahahahahahaha

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:53 AM

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/03...htm l?showall

This is interesting, I wonder how true that is.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Yep, you guys know how to throw out concepts you don't understand in order to sound intelligent. You also know how to properly skirt around legitimate arguments, trying to make irrelevant points and just making an ass out of yourself. You were incredibly easy to deal with

Glad I didn't miss this.

I skirted nothing, I've actually accused you of doing that several replies ago.

I made an ass out of myself, yet you're the one who said that we have the same principles today as we did when this country was founded. LOL.

You even said yourself about the amendments.

Love it.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

http://www.politico.com/livepulse/03...htm l?showall

This is interesting, I wonder how true that is.

IMO, very true. Just typical agenda, really.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Yea, it doesn't make any bit of sense. Let me know when your GPA surpasses a 2.0.

Doesn't make sense?

Alright, nice and slow.

If something is amended, then it is changed.
If a principle is amended, the principle is changed.

Every founding principle has been amended, therefore every founding principle has been changed.

Thus, leading to us not having the same founding principles for 200 years as you claimed.

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Glad I didn't miss this.

I skirted nothing, I've actually accused you of doing that several replies ago.

Except I've proven that there was nothing to skirt seeing as how you have no concrete point. Try again.

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I made an ass out of myself, yet you're the one who said that we have the same principles today as we did when this country was founded. LOL.

And we do, by which point you decided to give me some bullshit about them not being founding principles because they are amendments, ROFL

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Love it.

Definitely, gotta love the "don't give up" strategy. It usually works when you want to win an argument and your opinion is intellectually superior to you. Keep it up Mgtar

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 11:00 AM

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Except I've proven that there was nothing to skirt seeing as how you have no concrete point. Try again.

And we do, by which point you decided to give me some bullshit about them not being founding principles because they are amendments, ROFL

Definitely, gotta love the "don't give up" strategy. It usually works when you want to win an argument and your opinion is intellectually superior to you. Keep it up Mgtar

Main Entry: amend
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈmend\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French amender, modification of Latin emendare, from e, ex out + menda fault; akin to Latin mendax lying, mendicus beggar, and perhaps to Sanskrit mindā physical defect
Date: 13th century

transitive verb 1 : to put right; especially : to make emendations in (as a text)
2 a : to change or modify for the better : improve <amend the situation> b : to alter especially in phraseology; especially : to alter formally by modification, deletion, or addition <amend a constitution>

If something has changed, how can it remain the same?

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Doesn't make sense?

Alright, nice and slow.

If something is amended, then it is changed.
If a principle is amended, the principle is changed.

Every founding principle has been amended, therefore every founding principle has been changed.

Thus, leading to us not having the same founding principles for 200 years as you claimed.

Let's try this again since you seem to understand nothing. Our principles include freedom of speech, limited government, etc. What are the amendments? Wait for it wait for it? Those same principles that we decided to put on paper and make law!! Way to go Mgtar!!!

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Main Entry: amend
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈmend\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French amender, modification of Latin emendare, from e, ex out + menda fault; akin to Latin mendax lying, mendicus beggar, and perhaps to Sanskrit mindā physical defect
Date: 13th century

transitive verb 1 : to put right; especially : to make emendations in (as a text)
2 a : to change or modify for the better : improve <amend the situation> b : to alter especially in phraseology; especially : to alter formally by modification, deletion, or addition <amend a constitution>

If something has changed, how can it remain the same?

You know, these are things you should know, as an alleged poli sci major.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The Demon

Let's try this again since you seem to understand nothing. Our principles include freedom of speech, limited government, etc. What are the amendments? Wait for it wait for it? Those same principles that we decided to put on paper and make law!! Way to go Mgtar!!!

Freedom of speech is not cut and dry.

You cuss at me and harass me, I can have you jailed for harassment.

Limited government? We are MUCH more constricted than what we were founded upon. Basic history, c'mon now.

RaiderCash_Dominik · 03-19-2010, 11:03 AM

sad. very sad.

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 11:03 AM

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You know, these are things you should know, as an alleged poli sci major.

Circular reasoning.

How can something stay the same when it's been changed

The Demon · 03-19-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mgtarheels

Freedom is speech is not cut and dry.

You cuss at me and harass me, I can have you jailed for harassment.

Ah more irrelevant misdirection in saving face from getting your ass kicked.

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Limited government? We are MUCH more constricted than what we were founded upon. Basic history, c'mon now.

I listed it as one of the principles of this country, that was put into an amendment, since you seemed to think that the amendments were changed, due to the definition.

Btw, I love how you completely switch points after I call your bullshit on the concept of "amendments". You're definitely funnier than the other kids I talk to on here.

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