The Tea Baggers are just Plain Stupid **PHOTO**

[TheSenator]

The dumbing down of America ....

[TheSenator]

These are photos from today....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_500842.html

[EdgeXXX]

Ah yes, Tea Baggers...

[The Demon]

The dumbing down of America started when hippies and modern liberalism came into existence, and is hitting its apex with Obama, Pelosi, and the whole borderline retarded administration.

Not to mention, I'm wondering what's stupid about that picture? Because with government run health care, we ARE going to have European type socialism.

[J. Falcon]

These people are beyond stupid and probably have no idea what socialism even means. They believe everything they hear on FOX news, so you can't expect them to think for themselves.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by TheSenator

The dumbing down of America ....

LOL @ 'em

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

These people are beyond stupid and probably have no idea what socialism even means. They believe everything they hear on FOX news, so you can't expect them to think for themselves.

Haha as opposed to the morons who allow CNN or MSNBC to do the thinking for them? And I'm pretty sure they know what socialism means, which is theoretically what we're going to have with universal health care and the expansion of government. I'm not sure YOU know what it means.

[just a punk]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

These people are beyond stupid and probably have no idea what socialism even means. They believe everything they hear on FOX news, so you can't expect them to think for themselves.

I bet most of them think that socialism is against democracy so it's bad. Poor little idiots

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by The Demon

The dumbing down of America started when hippies and modern liberalism came into existence, and is hitting its apex with Obama, Pelosi, and the whole borderline retarded administration.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Haha as opposed to the morons who allow CNN or MSNBC to do the thinking for them? And I'm pretty sure they know what socialism means, which is theoretically what we're going to have with universal health care and the expansion of government. I'm not sure YOU know what it means.

Uhh... maybe one of these days you will actually learn to read something and learn from the words. There is no "Universal Health Care" bill being proposed. Why don't you go back to playing WoW and let the grown folks discuss the facts while you continue to focus on fantasy.

[alexchechs]

Its a good thing we have freedom of speech in this country.... now every idiot can be heard

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

I prefer

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by nation-x

Uhh... maybe one of these days you will actually learn to read something and learn from the words. There is no "Universal Health Care" bill being proposed. Why don't you go back to playing WoW and let the grown folks discuss the facts while you continue to focus on fantasy.

That's funny, when the grown folks are discussing facts, you're either nowhere to be found, or getting your ass handed to you while you bitch and moan.

Furthermore, I stated that if we get universal health care, we would have European socialism to a certain extent, which is 100% fact. And the public option is out for now, but if Pelosi gets this retarded bill that nobody has read into play, they're eventually going to add the public option. Then again, I can't for the life of me wonder why you would support the health care bill if there's no public option. Logic and your lack of intelligence states that you don't know what else is in there.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by The Demon

That's funny, when the grown folks are discussing facts, you're either nowhere to be found, or getting your ass handed to you while you bitch and moan.

Furthermore, I stated that if we get universal health care, we would have European socialism to a certain extent, which is 100% fact. And the public option is out for now, but if Pelosi gets this retarded bill that nobody has read into play, they're eventually going to add the public option. Then again, I can't for the life of me wonder why you would support the health care bill if there's no public option. Logic and your lack of intelligence states that you don't know what else is in there.

Although the majority of the best parts of the bill won't go into affect until 4 years after passage... I support the bill because it establishes an exchange where I can buy insurance from a pool rather than as an individual which will drop the rates I am paying by a considerable amount. In addition, it outlaws insurance companies from dropping children for pre-existing conditions immediately and establishes rules by which companies will have to follow in order to legally raise their rates. There are many other parts of the bill that I support but I don't think it goes far enough...

I have a 152 IQ for your information... so I think my intelligence level is more than sufficient to understand the facts... speaking of those... what exactly do you define the public option as being? I am just curious about what you think it is.

[J. Falcon]

It's okay to rack up a national debt of over 30k for every man, woman and child to fight an imaginary evil in Iraq, but not a single dollar to help their fellow citizens. God forbid they invest in a modern health care system that might help the economy and as well as the population.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by The Demon

That's funny, when the grown folks are discussing facts, you're either nowhere to be found, or getting your ass handed to you while you bitch and moan.

Furthermore, I stated that if we get universal health care, we would have European socialism to a certain extent, which is 100% fact. And the public option is out for now, but if Pelosi gets this retarded bill that nobody has read into play, they're eventually going to add the public option. Then again, I can't for the life of me wonder why you would support the health care bill if there's no public option. Logic and your lack of intelligence states that you don't know what else is in there.

Is that another ASSumption of yours? Just like the one you had about Texas having a great educational system when their own website says it sucks?

[Joshua G]

we already have government run health care for the poor & the elderly. its amazing when people talk like government run health care doesnt exist, or is on the way. its already here. from what i can tell, the old people like their government run health care, so much so republicans are opposing cuts to medicare being proposed by the dems. LOL.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

It's okay to rack up a national debt of over 30k for every man, woman and child to fight an imaginary evil in Iraq, but not a single dollar to help their fellow citizens. God forbid they invest in a modern health care system that might help the economy and as well as the population.

An inconvenient truth.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by epitome

An inconvenient truth.

From what I hear so called conservatives talking about on tv or read about on their blogs... the truth rarely has anything to do with it.

[ShellyCrash]

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by J. Falcon

It's okay to rack up a national debt of over 30k for every man, woman and child to fight an imaginary evil in Iraq, but not a single dollar to help their fellow citizens. God forbid they invest in a modern health care system that might help the economy and as well as the population.

Nobody said the War in Iraq was ok. And if Obama didn't start his astronomical deficit spending, health care reform might have been possible. But it's unsustainable. Simple as that. And I love the typical liberal argument based on emotion, nothing else.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by nation-x

Although the majority of the best parts of the bill won't go into affect until 4 years after passage... I support the bill because it establishes an exchange where I can buy insurance from a pool rather than as an individual which will drop the rates I am paying by a considerable amount. In addition, it outlaws insurance companies from dropping children for pre-existing conditions immediately and establishes rules by which companies will have to follow in order to legally raise their rates. There are many other parts of the bill that I support but I don't think it goes far enough...

I have a 152 IQ for your information... so I think my intelligence level is more than sufficient to understand the facts... speaking of those... what exactly do you define the public option as being? I am just curious about what you think it is.

I highly doubt you have a 152 IQ but we're all allowed to dream. I'm for getting rid of the pre-existing condition clause. The only problem with that is, the premiums will skyrocket and I don't want that. I'm against a single payer system, and I sure as hell am against the government taking over the health care industry. I'm for small government. It's funny how people can't take personal responsibility, fuck up the economy with their reckless spending, and then expect the government to bail them out.

[2MuchMark]

I blame Fox News.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by epitome

An inconvenient truth.

The inconvenient truth was that your democrats supported the war in Iraq originally.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by The Demon

I highly doubt you have a 152 IQ but we're all allowed to dream. I'm for getting rid of the pre-existing condition clause. The only problem with that is, the premiums will skyrocket and I don't want that. I'm against a single payer system, and I sure as hell am against the government taking over the health care industry. I'm for small government. It's funny how people can't take personal responsibility, fuck up the economy with their reckless spending, and then expect the government to bail them out.

By your response I can tell you that you don't know anything about the bill except the talking points you have been hearing from whoever you are listening to.

As far as spending goes... which had more spending? The current administration and the dem controlled congress or the previous administration and the gop controlled congress?

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by The Demon

The inconvenient truth was that your democrats supported the war in Iraq originally.

I think the majority of America did because the Bush admin lied to us about WMD and had General Powell deliver the lie to the world on television.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Nobody said the War in Iraq was ok.

I beg your pardon ?

[Tom_PM]

lol @ government takeover.

Perhaps the most foolish tag line the 'pubes ever used.

Y'all prefer a cash incentivised insurance worker to remain between you and your doctor instead of nobody. Oh yeah, watch out dems! You may be voted out if this passes! lmfao.

[Dirty Lord]

Originally Posted by EdgeXXX

Ah yes, Tea Baggers...

i think about that too

[GatorB]

When all these people can't afford to go to the doctor they'll be bicthing about that. 95% of these poeple pay ZERO income taxes. Yet they bitch about THEIR money getting spent.

[CosmicTang]

Originally Posted by nation-x

As far as spending goes... which had more spending? The current administration and the dem controlled congress or the previous administration and the gop controlled congress?

We'll know for sure in 7 years.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by nation-x

By your response I can tell you that you don't know anything about the bill except the talking points you have been hearing from whoever you are listening to.

What's ironic is this is exactly what I expected you would say next. You see, as someone who doesn't have much knowledge about current events, I suspect you have sort of like a mental script going into real debates, and you're using it now. Because you were sincere in this post, then your powers of inference would be beyond mankind. I have no idea how you could logically conclude from my post that I know nothing about the bill, so I'll call bullshit.

As far as spending goes... which had more spending? The current administration and the dem controlled congress or the previous administration and the gop controlled congress?

How many graphs should I provide you with? Every month we hit a record for budget deficits. The deficit spending of the Obama Administration has been nothing short of astronomical. Also

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by nation-x

I think the majority of America did because the Bush admin lied to us about WMD and had General Powell deliver the lie to the world on television.

Just like a liberal Democrat. Can't take any personal responsibility, it's always someone else's fault. Thanks for being predictable.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by nation-x

Although the majority of the best parts of the bill won't go into affect until 4 years after passage... I support the bill because it establishes an exchange where I can buy insurance from a pool rather than as an individual which will drop the rates I am paying by a considerable amount. In addition, it outlaws insurance companies from dropping children for pre-existing conditions immediately and establishes rules by which companies will have to follow in order to legally raise their rates. There are many other parts of the bill that I support but I don't think it goes far enough...

I have a 152 IQ for your information... so I think my intelligence level is more than sufficient to understand the facts... speaking of those... what exactly do you define the public option as being? I am just curious about what you think it is.

I think whats more important that the WH is trying to get this healthcare bill thru without the proper votes and doesn't care, as long as they get it thru. And spare me the BS about how the GOP did it. That doesn't make it right, now that the government is going to take over 1/6 of the economy. Even the Tea Party can figure out that is wrong, can you?

I've taken an IQ test 3 times and I don't believe it's that high,

[Tom_PM]

lmao at the first google images pic under "tea baggers":

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I think whats more important that the WH is trying to get this healthcare bill thru without the proper votes and doesn't care, as long as they get it thru. And spare me the BS about how the GOP did it. That doesn't make it right, now that the government is going to take over 1/6 of the economy. Even the Tea Party can figure out that is wrong, can you?

I've taken an IQ test 3 times and I don't believe it's that high,

Shh it's only wrong when the Republicans do it! This has never happened before in regards to such a huge issue. And if people REALLY want to look at polls as evidence, the American public does NOT want Obamacare. This much has become clear. The other thing that has become clear is how incompetent and delusional Nancy Pelosi is, and how out of touch the entire Democratic party is with the American people. Like I said, they had their chance when Obama came into office, to completely destroy the Republican party. They dropped the ball like I never thought was possible, and they'll be destroyed come November.

It's funny, I always criticized W for his policies but I never realized how much I would miss him until the Democrats started controlling everything.

[Vendzilla]

Whats funny is that the USSR adopted socialist veiws on many things

The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) was a constitutionally socialist state that existed in Eurasia from 1922 to 1991
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union

[Caligari]

The Truth
Last May, Single Payer Action - along with a group of doctors and nurses - confronted Senator Max Baucus (D-Montana) at a public hearing of the insurance industry-controlled Senate Finance Committee.

Baucus had scheduled 42 people to testify over three days of hearings.

Not one favored single payer.

Single Payer Action demanded - allow one person to testify on behalf of single payer.

Baucus refused.

Instead, Baucus ordered the arrest of 13 doctors, nurses, and other single payer activists.

Ever since Single Payer Action has been confronting members of Congress - agitating, and pressuring the system at all levels to do the right thing.

To adopt single payer national health insurance.

What Dr. Marcia Angell - former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine - calls the only health care system that will both control costs and cover everyone.

Fast forward ten months.

And what do we find?

The House Democrats - and most shamelessly 87 "progressive Democrats" who are co-sponsors of the single payer legislation in the House - are now lining up behind the pro-insurance industry Baucus-backed Senate bill.

A Senate bill those "progressive Democrats" vowed never to support.

A bill that - as Dr. Angell told Bill Moyers last week - cements the private insurance in place as "the lynchpin of health care reform."

Single Payer NOW

[The Demon]

Very interesting, I rather enjoy the propaganda.. I'm not too worried though. Pelosi has already committed political suicide and I suspect many of the other Democrats won't follow suit and as such, they won't be able to pass this bill, even through "deem and pass." Then come November, a few of those Democrats might hold on to their positions, if they're lucky. The Democratic party as a whole has gone above and beyond political suicide in my opinion though, to the point where some of these Democrats are starting to distance themselves from Pelosi and Obama.

[Tom_PM]

Then why do you care, Demon? Let them pass it and be voted out. Done and done.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Then why do you care, Demon? Let them pass it and be voted out. Done and done.

Did you not read what I just posted? Or even before? Or are you typing just to waste bandwidth?

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I think whats more important that the WH is trying to get this healthcare bill thru without the proper votes and doesn't care, as long as they get it thru. And spare me the BS about how the GOP did it. That doesn't make it right, now that the government is going to take over 1/6 of the economy. Even the Tea Party can figure out that is wrong, can you?

The filibuster wasn't introduced by the founding fathers. It doesn't take 60 votes to pass a bill... it takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. The only thing that is happening is that the GOP can't filibuster a reconciliation bill.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by nation-x

The filibuster wasn't introduced by the founding fathers. It doesn't take 60 votes to pass a bill... it takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. The only thing that is happening is that the GOP can't filibuster a reconciliation bill.

I'm pretty sure we're not even talking about reconciliation anymore, but "deem and pass."

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

Then why do you care, Demon? Let them pass it and be voted out. Done and done.

Once the government takes over the Healthcare system, you think they'll give it back?
Democrat or republican, taking over the healthcare system in this country is wrong

Obama stated he wanted to take out the sweetheart deals, guess what folks, they are still there

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by nation-x

The filibuster wasn't introduced by the founding fathers. It doesn't take 60 votes to pass a bill... it takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. The only thing that is happening is that the GOP can't filibuster a reconciliation bill.

Guess you havn't been paying attention, they are talking about doing it without a vote

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031503742.html

I don't think the founding fathers would approve of that, I know I don't

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Once the government takes over the Healthcare system, you think they'll give it back?
Democrat or republican, taking over the healthcare system in this country is wrong

Obama stated he wanted to take out the sweetheart deals, guess what folks, they are still there

Noone is proposing taking over the healthcare system except the idiots that keep saying that health care reform is taking over the health care system... just like there aren't any death panels except for the ones that the insurance companies have that decide whether or not they want to pay for some life saving procedure or not.

[The Demon]

It really is a travesty. And if it was the Republicans doing it, I'd feel the same way, as would most objective people.

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by The Demon

The dumbing down of America started when hippies and modern liberalism came into existence, and is hitting its apex with Obama, Pelosi, and the whole borderline retarded administration.

Not to mention, I'm wondering what's stupid about that picture? Because with government run health care, we ARE going to have European type socialism.

as someone living in an ex-socialist country I can clearly say that you (and most others) have no idea what socialism means

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

as someone living in an ex-socialist country I can clearly say that you (and most others) have no idea what socialism means

I'm so glad I've outlined what I thought socialism was, thanks for your input. I'll file it under "bullshit." Btw, I come from a communist country, not that you're intelligent enough to know the difference.

[nation-x]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Guess you havn't been paying attention, they are talking about doing it without a vote

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031503742.html

I don't think the founding fathers would approve of that, I know I don't

Maybe you should read more and comment less. There WOULD be a vote... on whether or not the House agrees with the contents of the senate bill and deem the bill as passed without amendment. If the house doesn't amend the Senate Bill... there is no reason to have a direct vote... they can just call a rule vote (deem and pass rule).