Before Porn Tubes: YouTube co-founder was posting pirated content, Viacom suit claims - GoFuckYourself.com

HELMY · 03-19-2010, 03:41 PM

"Jawed, please stop putting stolen videos on the site," Chen wrote in the July 19, 2005, email. "We're going to have a tough time defending the fact that we're not liable for the copyrighted material on the site because we didn't put it up when one of the co-founders is blatantly stealing content from other sites and trying to get everyone to see it."

http://www.xbiz.com/news/118720

mgtarheels · 03-19-2010, 03:43 PM

Already a few threads about it

WiredGuy · 03-19-2010, 03:45 PM

DMCA safe-harbour, bye bye.
WG

fatfoo · 03-19-2010, 03:49 PM

Yeah... That's something... Interesting read, thanks for posting.

YouTube co-founder was posting pirated content, Viacom suit claims.

will76 · 03-19-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

DMCA safe-harbour, bye bye.
WG

and that is how ALL porn tube sites with stolen content started. I will say it again, ALL PORN TUBE SITES WITH STOLEN CONTENT STARTED WITH THE OWNERS POSTING THE STOLEN CONTENT ON THEIR OWN TUBE SITES.

Do you really think that all the big porn tubes, megarotic, youporn, etc... all started a tube site with no videos on it, waited for surfers to find an empty site, and those surfers build out the site for them.

Sorry, not buying that shit. If you had a tube site with no videos on it, 100% of the surfers would hit the site and leave. No one is going to start uploading to a dead, empty site.

FACT, these sites launched with full length stolen videos on them, before they started sending traffic. How did the videos get there originally? doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 03-19-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

and that is how ALL porn tube sites with stolen content started. I will say it again, ALL PORN TUBE SITES WITH STOLEN CONTENT STARTED WITH THE OWNERS POSTING THE STOLEN CONTENT ON THEIR OWN TUBE SITES.

Do you really think that all the big porn tubes, megarotic, youporn, etc... all started a tube site with no videos on it, waited for surfers to find an empty site, and those surfers build out the site for them.

Sorry, not buying that shit. If you had a tube site with no videos on it, 100% of the surfers would hit the site and leave. No one is going to start uploading to a dead, empty site.

FACT, these sites launched with full length stolen videos on them, before they started sending traffic. How did the videos get there originally? doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Very well said. I think the Tube Owners know this.
This will be an interesting case to watch.

Domain Diva · 03-19-2010, 07:52 PM

I agree with Will76.

What was also interesting though was the fact Viacom was putting up massive amounts of videos in a slightly less than perfect quality(to emulate home user submits) under different user accounts as it noticed the amount of traffic YouTube was producing and saw it as good PR for its programs at the same time complaining of copywrite theft.

Apparantly Viacom put up so much content itself it got to a point that even they couldnt tell what items they had or had not uploaded ....

I think this case is showing a lot of interesting tactics/pr/game plans that exsist in marketing......a lot more info will come out over the next few months im sure.

Semi-Retired-Dave · 03-19-2010, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberClaire

I agree with Will76.

What was also interesting though was the fact Viacom was putting up massive amounts of videos in a slightly less than perfect quality(to emulate home user submits) under different user accounts as it noticed the amount of traffic YouTube was producing and saw it as good PR for its programs at the same time complaining of copywrite theft.

Apparantly Viacom put up so much content itself it got to a point that even they couldnt tell what items they had or had not uploaded ....

I think this case is showing a lot of interesting tactics/pr/game plans that exsist in marketing......a lot more info will come out over the next few months im sure.

Overall I think the case will be settled out of court.

Settled or not, whatever happens will have everyone else following.
Job security for Google's Lawyers.

TeenCat · 03-19-2010, 08:01 PM

on the net you can easily spot the loosers

Domain Diva · 03-19-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Settled or not, whatever happens will have everyone else following.
Job security for Google's Lawyers.

im not so sure if it will affect the adult industry Dave....didnt Vivid sue a tube site in a high profile case(then settle out of court ? ) I havent seen a mad rush following them ?

Yes I agree others will follow but for many the legal costs stop or deter mass actions in my view.

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