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Old 03-28-2010, 11:09 AM   #1
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Request to GFY: Please add a shit list section to the forum

Wouldn't this be a good idea?

lots of forums have them, and I reckon they work.

If not how about a pinned thread in one of the sections with a list of scammers? people can add to it (with proof of course)

Or perhaps do something different, and do a feedback forum.

People who have done deals on the board can post who they have dealt with and who they trust.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:09 AM   #2
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I doubt GFY/parent company wants to be held liable or sued.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:10 AM   #3
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I doubt GFY/parent company wants to be held liable or sued.
That is why some forums also have resolved issues section.
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yep good idea think it should be done for verified scammers
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:12 AM   #5
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I doubt GFY/parent company wants to be held liable or sued.
Has a forum been sued for having a shit list before then? I doubt it.

I think the other idea might be better. a feedback forum. Instead of being a negative thing and calling people scammers. have it so people can post good and positive comments about members.
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most shit lists are complete crap with people bitching about a pre-checked cross sell like it was bernie madoff so no.
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Its a good idea for verified scammer lists. But I doubt GFY wants to get in the middle of shit.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:16 AM   #8
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yep good idea think it should be done for verified scammers


Verified being even better and/or proof posted.
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I think GFY can have at least a section of "nicknames banned" and "reasons why banned."
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:19 AM   #10
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most shit lists are complete crap with people bitching about a pre-checked cross sell like it was bernie madoff so no.
I'm sure BS threads could be deleted easily. and yeah there is the policing problem there though.

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Its a good idea for verified scammer lists. But I doubt GFY wants to get in the middle of shit.
Probably not. Might be better than having a "got scammed by ???" thread every day though.
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I think GFY can have at least a section of "nicknames banned" and "reasons why banned."
maybe, scammers don't get banned though.......................
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Has a forum been sued for having a shit list before then? I doubt it.
Talk to a lawyer and ask them their advice on such an idea.
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scammers just create a new nick and icq when they are exposed anyway. maybe just create a sticky on how to avoid scams and how to use the search function.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:25 AM   #14
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Talk to a lawyer and ask them their advice on such an idea.
No point! don't have a forum with a shit list section

Seriously though. where would GFY get tangled up in any threads posted by other people on a public forum? I dunno.

Thats why I said about the opposite as a soloution aswell. A "trusted list" and make it positive instead.

That way people could post they had good deals with members and there would be less "scammed by ????" threads.
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scammers just create a new nick and icq when they are exposed anyway. maybe just create a sticky on how to avoid scams and how to use the search function.
Thats a good idea aswell I like that one.
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scammers just create a new nick and icq when they are exposed anyway. maybe just create a sticky on how to avoid scams and how to use the search function.
True dat.

Look at most U.S. based, business owned or run, big forums. For example, DP, GFY, MP, YNOT, among many others. They all typically say, "We do not get involved in business/deal disputes".

Some will actually have rules, or tips, in their Buy & Sell sections stickies at the top. Including the use of ESCROW.COM and resolution processes. However, they do not want to get involved in the middle of he said-she said, nor defaming people's businesses based on pissed off fry cooks, and $5 domain deals.
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Far too many people bitch and whine over meaningless and petty things. It would just turn into a bash fest and would serve no real purpose in the end.

Not to mention legal issues.
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Old 03-28-2010, 11:31 AM   #18
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True dat.

Look at most U.S. based, business owned or run, big forums. For example, DP, GFY, among many others. They all typically say, "We do not get involved in business/deal disputes".

Some will actually have rules, or tips, in their Buy & Sell sections stickies at the top. Including the use of ESCROW.COM and resolution processes. However, they do not want to get involved in the middle of he said-she said, nor defaming people's businesses based on pissed off fry cooks, and $5 domain deals.
Yeah true. We don't even have a sticky anywhere with some tips to help cut it down a bit though. This is one of the biggest forums (atleast for adult) and to not have anything at all related to this kind of thing is likely making it a bigger target.

"trusted list" would be a better idea.
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On forums having it iTrader always seems to get abused and become unreliable and that is purely for honesty style feedback.

Proven scammers always seem to have many usernames on sites anyway, so as soon as you kill off one they move to another aged name which looks more trustworthy than one set up yesterday and carry on.

Alot of people do seem to get scammed just because they can't be bothered to spend 30 seconds doing a quick check up on someone though so it is hard to sympathise sometimes.
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On forums having it iTrader always seems to get abused and become unreliable and that is purely for honesty style feedback.

Alot of people do seem to get scammed just because they can't be bothered to spend 30 seconds doing a quick check up on someone though so it is hard to sympathise sometimes.
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Far too many people bitch and whine over meaningless and petty things. It would just turn into a bash fest and would serve no real purpose in the end.

Not to mention legal issues.
True, but them threads are already on the forum. There is probably 2-5 on the main section at any given time.

Might atleast cut it down a bit.

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On forums having it iTrader always seems to get abused and become unreliable and that is purely for honesty style feedback.

Proven scammers always seem to have many usernames on sites anyway, so as soon as you kill off one they move to another aged name which looks more trustworthy than one set up yesterday and carry on.

Alot of people do seem to get scammed just because they can't be bothered to spend 30 seconds doing a quick check up on someone though so it is hard to sympathise sometimes.
Yeah iTrader gets fucked about with a lot.

And your 100% right about the rest.

That might be why the perfect solouting is not a shit list. but a trusted list
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That might be why the perfect solouting is not a shit list. but a trusted list
You would get people moaning their tits off at GFY then as they would have taken the trusted list to mean GFY recommends these people and that they are definitely nice. Doesn't matter how many disclaimers you put on things there is always a moron that will ignore them and kick up a huge fuss if someone off the trusted list does something as petty as getting out of bed 10 minutes later than normal.
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i thought gfy was a shitlist
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You would get people moaning their tits off at GFY then as they would have taken the trusted list to mean GFY recommends these people and that they are definitely nice. Doesn't matter how many disclaimers you put on things there is always a moron that will ignore them and kick up a huge fuss if someone off the trusted list does something as petty as getting out of bed 10 minutes later than normal.
Hmmm, you could be right! probably not suitable either way

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Talk to a lawyer and ask them their advice on such an idea.
Anyone can publish their shitlist now as long they have proof. It's the poster, not GFY, who is responsible for what written.

A dedicated section would also make it easier for people to defend themselves, before the threads are gone to page 10 and damage is done.
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Anyone can publish their shitlist now as long they have proof. It's the poster, not GFY, who is responsible for what written.

A dedicated section would also make it easier for people to defend themselves, before the threads are gone to page 10 and damage is done.
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Wouldn't this be a good idea?

lots of forums have them, and I reckon they work.

If not how about a pinned thread in one of the sections with a list of scammers? people can add to it (with proof of course)

Or perhaps do something different, and do a feedback forum.

People who have done deals on the board can post who they have dealt with and who they trust.
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I think GFY can have at least a section of "nicknames banned" and "reasons why banned."
Agreed with both of these ideas. I worry when paying for scripts or allowing persons to log into my server. With any of these sections, it would not stop people scamming people. At least we would have more of an idea of who are scammers.
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Agreed with both of these ideas. I worry when paying for scripts or allowing persons to log into my server. With any of these sections, it would not stop people scamming people. At least we would have more of an idea of who are scammers.


I think a trusted list, or maybe even "recommended by members" section would be best. Or a shit list and trusted list. etc.. there's lots of ways to do it without it being too complicated.

Legal stuff, fuck that. if there is a trusted list or recommended by members section. all it would need is "these statement are not endorsed by gfy.com or any of it's employees, affiliates or by the parent company. And we are not responsible for these statement, which are posted by members." (that could be put better obviously) But it wouldn't incur any legal problems.
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