NAUGHTY AMERICA going after affiliates!! - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Nysus · 03-24-2010, 11:35 AM

Seems like a nice way to go about it.

faxxaff · 03-24-2010, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sponsorpimp

Are the Trade marks World Wide or simply implemented for the USA as you may well know you can trade mark country by country or world wide...Just a thought

That doesn't really matter.

Using a brand name that is in use by a known party is pretty foolish - first of all because most people simply abuse it by promoting competitors ..... This has to be punished and most jurisdictions respect this without the need of legal formalities.

Protect your brands and drive fraudulent affs out of the market.

dig420 · 03-24-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

I agree. I'm going after anyone with 'cuckold' or 'slut' or 'wife' or 'interracial' in their domain name. Get my atty on the line

PSD · 03-24-2010, 02:12 PM

I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious.

After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded.

After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

Dennis69 · 03-24-2010, 02:18 PM

It's easy to tell when a program is hurting or greedy!!

Sure protecting your brand name is fine but mass emails are not the way to do it

BillyHoe · 03-24-2010, 02:19 PM

lol good luck on winning a case on a typo.

RycEric · 03-24-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis69

It's easy to tell when a program is hurting or greedy!!

Sure protecting your brand name is fine but mass emails are not the way to do it

Speaking of which... you better start removing the unauthorized Shauna on your site.
http://www.titsandnippleslips.com/to...Sex-Tape02.jpg

RycEric · 03-24-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Speaking of which... you better start removing the unauthorized Shauna on your site.
http://www.titsandnippleslips.com/to...Sex-Tape02.jpg

Thanks Dennis.

Dennis69 · 03-24-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Thanks Dennis.

Thought I had it all removed... must of missed the thumbs!

TheDA · 03-24-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RycEric

Thanks Dennis.

Good god. I'd heard you were good with quick results but I didn't realise just how much so

georgeyw · 03-24-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap

Quoted for the truth

I agree, however the brand was helped along by all the affiliates

What's the use in going after an affiliate who is promoting the brand? Shooting oneself in the foot is never a productive move

u-Bob · 03-24-2010, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw

What's the use in going after an affiliate who is promoting the brand? Shooting oneself in the foot is never a productive move

q f t

maxjohan · 03-24-2010, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by faxxaff

drive fraudulent affs out of the market.

They never stated anything about this. Like a professional company had done. I mean, most times not seen in the adult side.

Dear affiliate,

We have been slammed by crooked affiliates, please bear with me that we have
no...intentions to.....use this as a scarecrow but we have to protect our brand

Their letter was almost 1/10 as good as my 2.minute try.

bdld · 03-24-2010, 08:07 PM

i'm in the process of removing links, i had been promoting them for 7 years now

Fat Panda · 03-24-2010, 08:22 PM

fuck naughty america

Fat Panda · 03-24-2010, 08:24 PM

their time would b much better spent removing all their content from every tube on the planet....

Fat Panda · 03-24-2010, 08:25 PM

my links are coming down too

LiveDose · 03-24-2010, 08:40 PM

Obnoxious. Stop being fucking lazy and go directly after the affiliates violating this policy instead of hitting all your affiliates with this type of email.

LiveDose · 03-24-2010, 08:43 PM

There was another annoying email sent recently from them that seemed like a personal attack as well but turned out to be a general email to all affiliates. Strike two, you're out.

andrej_NDC · 03-25-2010, 01:41 AM

They don't have a case. The term is just too common. I know, because they once tried it on my and lost the arbitration.

Robocrop · 03-25-2010, 02:28 AM

So Naughty america is gonna sue everyone? yea I can see that happen....

NetHorse · 03-25-2010, 02:47 AM

Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..

If someone is deliberately using their trademark then I don't see anything wrong with protecting their interests.

sponsorpimp · 03-25-2010, 03:37 AM

Ok let?s put it this way for example:
If I own na.de or any other na. from another country and Naughty America have no trade mark in that country they are out of their jurisdiction unless they have a worldwide trademark. Just my

And no I don't promote Naughty America or have any domains even close to their trade mark issue

Robocrop · 03-25-2010, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..

If someone is deliberately using their trademark then I don't see anything wrong with protecting their interests.

Its greed you know

andrej_NDC · 03-25-2010, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sponsorpimp

Ok let?s put it this way for example:
If I own na.de or any other na. from another country and Naughty America have no trade mark in that country they are out of their jurisdiction unless they have a worldwide trademark. Just my

And no I don't promote Naughty America or have any domains even close to their trade mark issue

lol I own a domain which has the name and also a logo of a travel agency(one of the biggest ones) and I won the domain case, so this NA bullshit isn't even worth to read.

SEO Expert · 03-25-2010, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by JCK

I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious.

After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded.

After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

Damn that's fucking bullshit.

If this is true, fuck Naughty America.

RadicalSights · 03-25-2010, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse

Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site..

.

almost as...

john FVC · 03-25-2010, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

i gave up on them a long time ago. there once killer program has been a clusterfuck the last couple years.

Yep.. aint that the truth.

beemk · 03-25-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

They don't have a case. The term is just too common. I know, because they once tried it on my and lost the arbitration.

lol i think i remember that, didnt they try and say you were stealing their brand because you had "hot mom" in your domain? what a bunch of cock suckers. how much money did that end up costing you to defend yourself though?

edit: post any court documents you have with you winning, im sure anyone who has a domain they try and take can use them for their benefit.

fris · 03-25-2010, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dennis69

Thought I had it all removed... must of missed the thumbs!

question is why did you have it in the first place

beemk · 03-25-2010, 08:01 AM

the funny thing about this whole mess is that they are fucking the affiliates saying they are stealing their brand that they built so much but they wouldnt have shit if it wasnt for affiliates. guys like lenny and drinking hard and many many more have spent millions of dollars promoting them building their name. if they did all of this inhouse not only would they not have as many sites but no one would know about them.

andrej_NDC · 03-25-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk

lol i think i remember that, didnt they try and say you were stealing their brand because you had "hot mom" in your domain? what a bunch of cock suckers. how much money did that end up costing you to defend yourself though?

edit: post any court documents you have with you winning, im sure anyone who has a domain they try and take can use them for their benefit.

I paid $3k to the lawyer, but I think I would have won even without him, but who knows...
Its on top of google for "arbitration hotmomnextdoor".

Davy · 03-25-2010, 10:53 AM

Must suck for their affiliates. If you run an affiliate program, you should let your affiliates properly promote you. As long as the domains are not used to give naughtyamerica a bad reputation and as long as they are used to promote NA legitimately, I don't see any harm done by typo domains.

FMG-Nih · 03-25-2010, 12:28 PM

kakaka. be down man!

natas · 03-25-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

i gave up on them a long time ago. their once killer program has been a clusterfuck the last couple years.

Agreed. Shame how badly these guys have gone downhill

Lace · 03-25-2010, 12:54 PM

Got this too.

What a fucking joke IMO. Go ahead, screw affiliates while they BUILD your name and continuously bring you income.

Now mail me again after I requested to be removed from your program and ANY mailing lists you have me on...

Why · 03-25-2010, 04:58 PM

i see a big giant uphill battle on this one!

bigalownz · 03-25-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Davy

Must suck for their affiliates. If you run an affiliate program, you should let your affiliates properly promote you. As long as the domains are not used to give naughtyamerica a bad reputation and as long as they are used to promote NA legitimately, I don't see any harm done by typo domains.

agree

i got the naughtyamerica.mobi domain that i picked up that was first registered back in 2005 by some one else ( they missed out and got pissed off )
and i only use it to send mobile traffic to them
not to othe companies or made my own porn site or send traffic to sick shit

i signed up back in 2003 with socalcash and the t&c never said anything about doman names

i googled naughty america and there a lot of "naughtyamerica" domains that are useed to send traffic to them for years

bigalownz · 04-02-2010, 08:12 PM

will its past the 2nd of april

i contact them last week as usual no reply from them

NA was good but now since all the original staff have left they have gone down

im thinking about pulling my links soon

[ Nate ] · 04-03-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

nothing wrong with protecting your brand

Agreed.

MrBottomTooth · 04-03-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bigalownz

will its past the 2nd of april

i contact them last week as usual no reply from them

NA was good but now since all the original staff have left they have gone down

im thinking about pulling my links soon

I contacted them too and never heard back after the original reply. I don't have a problem with transferring my two domains to them, but they never told me how to proceed.

Zango · 04-03-2010, 09:53 AM

Protect your brand = People hammer you
Protect your content = People hammer you
Have a min payout so you have time to search for fraud = People hammer you
You don't use message boards as your support = People hammer you
If you do anything out side the herd = People hammer you

Lets see who's still standing in 2 or 3 years. It's not going to be the ones who have done the hammering. You can count on that.

FrozenJag · 04-03-2010, 12:57 PM

I would like to see them take their resources towards protecting their content instead. :2c:

bdld · 04-03-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

I contacted them too and never heard back after the original reply. I don't have a problem with transferring my two domains to them, but they never told me how to proceed.

same here, no replies whatsoever.

fatfoo · 04-03-2010, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop

Legal action will not be taken against cybersquatters and
typosquatters who transfer their infringing domain names to Naughty
America on or before April 2, 2010.

It is already April 3, 2010. Time to take legal action.

SatansCandy · 04-03-2010, 04:29 PM

"Now, O body, you are paying the price of the delights you granted yourself!...and you did it of your own free will I saw several souls fall into Hell, and among them was a child of fifteen, cursing her parents for not having taught her to fear God nor that there was a Hell. Her life had been a short one, she said, but full of sin, for she had given in to all that her body and passions demanded in the way of satisfaction"

-Sister Josefa Menendez - From the book Way of Divine Love - 1923

Robocrop · 04-03-2010, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zango

Protect your brand = People hammer you
Protect your content = People hammer you
Have a min payout so you have time to search for fraud = People hammer you
You don't use message boards as your support = People hammer you
If you do anything out side the herd = People hammer you

Lets see who's still standing in 2 or 3 years. It's not going to be the ones who have done the hammering. You can count on that.

Did sleazy fire you?

mikke · 04-03-2010, 04:41 PM

whats wrong with u ppl? are you killing yourself!!! ok, i know, protecting brands blabla.. so, keep your fucked up brands away from us and die alone...

btw.. naughty america, please register your new brand.. FUCKED UP AMERICA.

peace.

bigalownz · 04-07-2010, 10:10 PM

bumb bumb

bigalownz · 04-12-2010, 08:06 PM

fuck them

i got a letter today saying that i have to turn it over asap and they saying that i have been using the domain to send traffic to my sites when i have been forwarding the domain traffic to them

i wasnt going to fight this but now i might

03-24-2010, 11:35 AM	#51
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03-24-2010, 02:18 PM	#55
Dennis69 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dreamland Posts: 1,685	It's easy to tell when a program is hurting or greedy!! Sure protecting your brand name is fine but mass emails are not the way to do it __________________ HaHaHa

03-24-2010, 02:19 PM	#56
BillyHoe Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vaudreuil/Montreal Posts: 2,214	lol good luck on winning a case on a typo. __________________ True Amateur Sites!! ICQ:124399549

03-24-2010, 08:40 PM	#68
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	Obnoxious. Stop being fucking lazy and go directly after the affiliates violating this policy instead of hitting all your affiliates with this type of email. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

03-24-2010, 08:43 PM	#69
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	There was another annoying email sent recently from them that seemed like a personal attack as well but turned out to be a general email to all affiliates. Strike two, you're out. __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

03-24-2010, 02:12 PM	#54
PSD PornSiteDomains.com Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: US Posts: 1,265	I had a bad experience with them. My revshare account was suspended without notice for what I later find out was due to having too good a ratios which they claimed were "completely and utterly impossible" to achieve and thus they assumed I must be doing something suspicious. After finding this out, I tried to explain it was because I was linking directly to the join page for much of my traffic and as soon as I started doing this apparently NATS did not count those hits or severely undercounted them causing the high ratios. Not saying it was NATS fault as I may have linked to the page improperly even though sales were being recorded. After telling them this my emails were no longer replied to. I mean if they did not want me to link directly to the join page fine, I would have just changed my links, but the way this was handled was horrible. Anyway, just wanted to vent as although this happened awhile ago I am always reminded of my experience whenever I see Naughty America mentioned.

03-24-2010, 08:07 PM	#64
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	i'm in the process of removing links, i had been promoting them for 7 years now

03-24-2010, 08:22 PM	#65
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	fuck naughty america

03-24-2010, 08:24 PM	#66
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	their time would b much better spent removing all their content from every tube on the planet....

03-24-2010, 08:25 PM	#67
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	my links are coming down too

03-25-2010, 01:41 AM	#70
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	They don't have a case. The term is just too common. I know, because they once tried it on my and lost the arbitration.

03-25-2010, 02:28 AM	#71
Robocrop Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywood Posts: 2,785	So Naughty america is gonna sue everyone? yea I can see that happen....

03-25-2010, 02:47 AM	#72
NetHorse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,526	Well it's not as bad as the idiot trying to sue people who had the word generic word "sex" in a tube site.. If someone is deliberately using their trademark then I don't see anything wrong with protecting their interests. __________________ ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ ICQ # 427013273

03-25-2010, 03:37 AM	#73
sponsorpimp Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,567	Ok let?s put it this way for example: If I own na.de or any other na. from another country and Naughty America have no trade mark in that country they are out of their jurisdiction unless they have a worldwide trademark. Just my And no I don't promote Naughty America or have any domains even close to their trade mark issue __________________

03-25-2010, 08:01 AM	#81
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	the funny thing about this whole mess is that they are fucking the affiliates saying they are stealing their brand that they built so much but they wouldnt have shit if it wasnt for affiliates. guys like lenny and drinking hard and many many more have spent millions of dollars promoting them building their name. if they did all of this inhouse not only would they not have as many sites but no one would know about them.

03-25-2010, 10:53 AM	#83
Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	Must suck for their affiliates. If you run an affiliate program, you should let your affiliates properly promote you. As long as the domains are not used to give naughtyamerica a bad reputation and as long as they are used to promote NA legitimately, I don't see any harm done by typo domains. __________________ --- ICQ 14-76-98 <-- I don't use this at all

03-25-2010, 12:28 PM	#84
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03-25-2010, 12:54 PM	#86
Lace Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,116	Got this too. What a fucking joke IMO. Go ahead, screw affiliates while they BUILD your name and continuously bring you income. Now mail me again after I requested to be removed from your program and ANY mailing lists you have me on... __________________ Your Paysite Partner Strength In Numbers! StickyDollars \| RadicalCash \| KennysPennies \| HomegrownCash

03-25-2010, 04:58 PM	#87
Why MFBA Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PNW Posts: 7,230	i see a big giant uphill battle on this one!

04-02-2010, 08:12 PM	#89
bigalownz Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW ZEALAND Posts: 1,654	will its past the 2nd of april i contact them last week as usual no reply from them NA was good but now since all the original staff have left they have gone down im thinking about pulling my links soon __________________ $100 free credit for all hosting needs

04-03-2010, 09:53 AM	#92
Zango So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 511	Protect your brand = People hammer you Protect your content = People hammer you Have a min payout so you have time to search for fraud = People hammer you You don't use message boards as your support = People hammer you If you do anything out side the herd = People hammer you Lets see who's still standing in 2 or 3 years. It's not going to be the ones who have done the hammering. You can count on that.

04-03-2010, 12:57 PM	#93
FrozenJag Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,763	I would like to see them take their resources towards protecting their content instead. :2c:

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