RapidShare is going in a new direction - GoFuckYourself.com

Nautilus · 04-03-2010, 08:21 AM

Rapidshare Aims To Convert Pirates Into Customers

Rapidshare Terminates Accounts of Copyright Infringers

Some highlights

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...RapidShare’s supervisory board has decided to not just rely on the filehosting business but to extend our company’s efforts to officially distribute licensed content...

...For quite a few weeks and months we have seen changes in the filehosting business. Several new players are trying heavily and with shady or unfair business practices to get into the market... RapidShare has decided not to participate in this battle and not to fight for the favor of criminals. Instead we would rather like to agitate against these activities and – if possible – to institute proceedings against those competitors of ours, who are intentionally supporting criminal activities...

...We are more aggressively than before terminating accounts of users who have been caught uploading copyright protected content...

...RapidShare is seeking the partnership of the content industry to generate new models that make piracy obsolete... We believe that if users can instantly find what they are looking for at a fair price, piracy will become a problem of the past.

They seem to smell it that the "cyberlocker" thing is not going to last long and want to jump ships before their filehosting business went down in smokes.

It is also interesting want kind of "procedures" they're going to institute against their "aggressive competitors" - it is indeed the fact that many new "cyberlocker" sites popped up recently, which makes it harder for us to combat piracy because of many new destinations to send our DMCAs to (and not all of them remove files as easily as rapidshare does). I wouldnt mind some help with them, even if it comes from rapidshare.

And it is also interesting to what extent they're going to implement their locking accounts of illegal uploaders policy - that would really help us if they'd block account and remove all files after an uploader was caught several times uploading illegally. That'd mean that all his links posted at all boards will be dead and we no longer need to search and report them all.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 04-03-2010, 08:23 AM

i noticed this a while ago while illegally downloading DVDs....

Barefootsies · 04-03-2010, 09:08 AM

Yeah, I saw that last weekend.

Robbie · 04-03-2010, 09:30 AM

That is GREAT news. Rapidshare has been one of the biggest problems this business has had for a while now.

ottopottomouse · 04-03-2010, 09:46 AM

The termination emails were part of a phishing scam. Bit of wonky reporting there.

Without piracy RapidShare wouldn't have a business. The whole thing was founded on illegal file sharing and recently they have obviously found that people will be willing to buy a premium account to still download files once they put up their no free download slots available message. Got 9 out of 10 parts of something and they tell you it's pay up or maybe not get the last part and people seem to pay up.

It is a big step though to expect people who can download anything they can find on a forum for an annual RapidShare fee of $75 to actually start buying things. Everything on the internet is very fluid and I don't think people have brand loyalty to sites as much as to brick-and-mortar shops. Make it too awkward to get something from one place and someone will move in with a different upload/download site or method with an attractive incentive scheme and the big uploaders just move. They already have everything pretty much automated, both the uploading and forum spamming their links, so changing filehost won't hurt them much at all.

Seen more and more hotfile links recently and only after looking just now have I found they have an affilliate scheme with $$$ for high download numbers. With all the forums there is a huge promotional network and it wouldn't surprise me if there are people with $1000+ a month coming in from sharing stuff and aggressively posting it everywhere.

andrej_NDC · 04-03-2010, 10:35 AM

Nothing will change at rapidshare, don't be so naive.

seeandsee · 04-03-2010, 10:52 AM

rapidshare will change nothing, $$$ is in pirates

Nautilus · 04-03-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

The termination emails were part of a phishing scam. Bit of wonky reporting there.

Without piracy RapidShare wouldn't have a business. The whole thing was founded on illegal file sharing and recently they have obviously found that people will be willing to buy a premium account to still download files once they put up their no free download slots available message. Got 9 out of 10 parts of something and they tell you it's pay up or maybe not get the last part and people seem to pay up.

It is a big step though to expect people who can download anything they can find on a forum for an annual RapidShare fee of $75 to actually start buying things. Everything on the internet is very fluid and I don't think people have brand loyalty to sites as much as to brick-and-mortar shops. Make it too awkward to get something from one place and someone will move in with a different upload/download site or method with an attractive incentive scheme and the big uploaders just move. They already have everything pretty much automated, both the uploading and forum spamming their links, so changing filehost won't hurt them much at all.

Seen more and more hotfile links recently and only after looking just now have I found they have an affilliate scheme with $$$ for high download numbers. With all the forums there is a huge promotional network and it wouldn't surprise me if there are people with $1000+ a month coming in from sharing stuff and aggressively posting it everywhere.

Good points, here is some more:

1. Yes there are many alternatives now, but pre 2010 links posted at forums and blogs are predominantly (80-90%) rapidshare. If they're going to get pulled fast with the blocking of accounts of reported infringers, that would mean forums are going become much less attractive for visitors, at least for awhile until new piles of content are uploaded (but it is also much easier to monitor and promptly remove current uploads than to scan the whole phorum).

2. Yes uploaders can move on but rapidshare has a great number of fanatic uploaders who can dig and post rare stuff, and for whom the idea of "sharing" is more important than earning and cashing some download points. If rapidshare is no longer an option, they may quit uploading altogether, which will mean significantly less new stuff uploaded - if you monitor forums regularly you probably even know those fanatic uploaders of your content by name, and know they're more of a threat to your business because unlike just random uploaders who earn download points they really know stuff and can pile up on-topic collections quickly. They know were to search for it, they'll regularly search for passwords to your site specifically etc. Random uploaders are not that much of a threat because they're not focused on your site/niche and just post a clip or two randomly, or sometimes full site rips too but if nuked they just move on to the next site.

3. Yes hotfile seems to be gaining popularity quickly, but they're almost as easy to work with as rapidshare - they usually respond to DMCAs within 12 hours so if the next preferred hosting is going to be hotfile I'm not worried at all. Lesser file hosters are more problematic to remove files from, and their rising popularity is bothering me much more than hotfile. But... (4)

4. Any file hoster who got to a point of where it is noticable enough will have to become more compliant because lots of anti-piracy watch groups will focus on it. So hopefully the new shift in rapidshare policies is what's looming on the horizon for the rest of the bunch. Rapidshare is just the biggest one so they had to do it first, but all the rest will follow sooner or later, and blocking accounts of repeated infringers will become a standard upheld in courts, which will eventually lead to the scaling back of our current piracy problem.

Klen · 04-03-2010, 11:22 AM

I never seen rapidshare or torrents as big problem when it comes to piracy,because most of their users wont pay for porn/apps/games/whatever anyway(even without it there is ways to download warez).The thing in this "modern"age in adult industry,even if piracy would somehow removed,there still would be tube site with legal long duration video content available.Also now it will be maybe easier to sell membership to file sharing site then porn site.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 04-03-2010, 12:20 PM

rapidshare currently redirects their removed dvdrip urls to what they are calling rapidmovies. which seems to be a beta stage video on demand deal.

Robbie · 04-03-2010, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

I never seen rapidshare or torrents as big problem when it comes to piracy,because most of their users wont pay for porn

If they could not get it any other way EXCEPT to pay for it (you know, the way it was for the majority of average surfers until a couple of years ago), they ALL will pay for it. How do you think we all made so much money for years and years and now all of a sudden nobody is buying?

andrej_NDC · 04-03-2010, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

If they could not get it any other way EXCEPT to pay for it (you know, the way it was for the majority of average surfers until a couple of years ago), they ALL will pay for it. How do you think we all made so much money for years and years and now all of a sudden nobody is buying?

Its mostly underage surfers on those content sharing sites...they surely wouldn't buy, because they couldn't. And they can't use daddy's cc anymore either, as he either has no job or his bank lowered his spending limit to a minimum.

fatfoo · 04-03-2010, 03:50 PM

Rapidshare is trying to convert pirates into customers through redirecting to an online store. Good luck to them with that.

Klen · 04-03-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

If they could not get it any other way EXCEPT to pay for it (you know, the way it was for the majority of average surfers until a couple of years ago), they ALL will pay for it. How do you think we all made so much money for years and years and now all of a sudden nobody is buying?

Maybe,but it impossible to imagine world without piracy unfortunately.

comeplay · 04-03-2010, 04:42 PM

i'm sure they have enough backlinks and SEO placement to redirect everything to one program and sit back now

mikke · 04-03-2010, 04:44 PM

time for hotfile..

andrej_NDC · 04-03-2010, 04:52 PM

Actually, there is a super easy way to stop most of piracy, within a minute. Google would need to ban the domains which are well known for it. Its google who really made piracy big. You want a movie? Type in the name + format(sd, hd) + rapidshare.com to google and you will get hundreds of options to download it. Within the top searches. So blame google, he started it.

Klen · 04-03-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

Actually, there is a super easy way to stop most of piracy, within a minute. Google would need to ban the domains which are well known for it. Its google who really made piracy big. You want a movie? Type in the name + format(sd, hd) + rapidshare.com to google and you will get hundreds of options to download it. Within the top searches. So blame google, he started it.

Google is not only search engine so it wont help.

andrej_NDC · 04-03-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Google is not only search engine so it wont help.

It pretty much is today. 95% of all people use it, they killed all of their competition. And, of course, each search engine would need to do the same. Before, when you entered a movie, you got links to sites which sold it...now you only get the upload sites.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 04-03-2010, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

Actually, there is a super easy way to stop most of piracy, within a minute. Google would need to ban the domains which are well known for it. Its google who really made piracy big. You want a movie? Type in the name + format(sd, hd) + rapidshare.com to google and you will get hundreds of options to download it. Within the top searches. So blame google, he started it.

Know your Google...

intext:rapidshare.com/files "your movie here" dvdrip

Or if you're feeling that still in theaters vibe...

intext:rapidshare.com/files "your movie here" dvdscr

Argos88 · 04-03-2010, 06:03 PM

It won't matter, since most of the FILE SHARING FORUMS use links to other rapidshare clones since long ago...

Just check extreme-board dot com.

Nautilus · 04-03-2010, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Argos88

It won't matter, since most of the FILE SHARING FORUMS use links to other rapidshare clones since long ago...

Just check extreme-board dot com.

Many old school well established forums still rely heavily on rapidshare. That is probably not going to last long, but at least for now that is still so.

Anyway, HUGE amounts or archives will go down in smokes with rapidshare, which is a good thing. They'll have to pretty much start from scratch.

mynameisjim · 04-03-2010, 07:41 PM

I have no idea whether or not it will help the adult industry, but rampant piracy will not be around forever. To think so is just as silly as if during the wild west era someone claimed that banks will never be safe because they are robbed all the time.

Society always moves towards more order and more control, for better or worse, that's the way it is. Control works it's way slowly from the majority to the minority and once it hits a tipping point, things start to fall into an orderly line that benefits those with the power. Eventually fewer and fewer entities will control the internet/information and piracy will begin to decline as control is concentrated.

I respect you if you think the internet is some kind of magical force that will remain in the hands of the people and giant corporations will never gain total control of it, for it means you are a dreamer. But it's just not the case.

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04-03-2010, 09:46 AM	#5
ottopottomouse She is ugly, bad luck. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,177	The termination emails were part of a phishing scam. Bit of wonky reporting there. Without piracy RapidShare wouldn't have a business. The whole thing was founded on illegal file sharing and recently they have obviously found that people will be willing to buy a premium account to still download files once they put up their no free download slots available message. Got 9 out of 10 parts of something and they tell you it's pay up or maybe not get the last part and people seem to pay up. It is a big step though to expect people who can download anything they can find on a forum for an annual RapidShare fee of $75 to actually start buying things. Everything on the internet is very fluid and I don't think people have brand loyalty to sites as much as to brick-and-mortar shops. Make it too awkward to get something from one place and someone will move in with a different upload/download site or method with an attractive incentive scheme and the big uploaders just move. They already have everything pretty much automated, both the uploading and forum spamming their links, so changing filehost won't hurt them much at all. Seen more and more hotfile links recently and only after looking just now have I found they have an affilliate scheme with $$$ for high download numbers. With all the forums there is a huge promotional network and it wouldn't surprise me if there are people with $1000+ a month coming in from sharing stuff and aggressively posting it everywhere.

04-03-2010, 10:35 AM	#6
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Nothing will change at rapidshare, don't be so naive.

04-03-2010, 11:22 AM	#9
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	I never seen rapidshare or torrents as big problem when it comes to piracy,because most of their users wont pay for porn/apps/games/whatever anyway(even without it there is ways to download warez).The thing in this "modern"age in adult industry,even if piracy would somehow removed,there still would be tube site with legal long duration video content available.Also now it will be maybe easier to sell membership to file sharing site then porn site.

04-03-2010, 12:20 PM	#10
Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life (felis madjewicus) Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Mom & Dad's Basement Posts: 20,368	rapidshare currently redirects their removed dvdrip urls to what they are calling rapidmovies. which seems to be a beta stage video on demand deal.

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04-03-2010, 04:52 PM	#17
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	Actually, there is a super easy way to stop most of piracy, within a minute. Google would need to ban the domains which are well known for it. Its google who really made piracy big. You want a movie? Type in the name + format(sd, hd) + rapidshare.com to google and you will get hundreds of options to download it. Within the top searches. So blame google, he started it.

04-03-2010, 06:03 PM	#21
Argos88 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,732	It won't matter, since most of the FILE SHARING FORUMS use links to other rapidshare clones since long ago... Just check extreme-board dot com.

04-03-2010, 07:41 PM	#23
mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	I have no idea whether or not it will help the adult industry, but rampant piracy will not be around forever. To think so is just as silly as if during the wild west era someone claimed that banks will never be safe because they are robbed all the time. Society always moves towards more order and more control, for better or worse, that's the way it is. Control works it's way slowly from the majority to the minority and once it hits a tipping point, things start to fall into an orderly line that benefits those with the power. Eventually fewer and fewer entities will control the internet/information and piracy will begin to decline as control is concentrated. I respect you if you think the internet is some kind of magical force that will remain in the hands of the people and giant corporations will never gain total control of it, for it means you are a dreamer. But it's just not the case. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert