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Old 04-12-2010, 09:10 PM   #1
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Fucking Bad Sales and My Test Signup Results

My sales have been way fucked since easter and today I went to do some test signups on various paysites to see what is going on.

A) With one paysite (Local Billing Limited is the processor), my 100% valid credit card was declined. I tried two credit cards and they both were declined for no reason. No joy! Each of my card has $1000 limit open and I don't know how a surfer would get in this way.

B) Same card was accepted by another biller on a different paysite and when I went to cancel, but their billing site won't let me cancel the subscription on my own even when I'm filling in the right information in the form (copying and pasting from the original signup email).

Their cancellation form keep saying that the information is invalid even when the information is 100% right, It is shady practice so that customer can not cancel on their own . Then I contact their Live Chat and the operator finds the subscription and bombs me with 5 other paysites offers for like $1 a month, completely free access to paysites on different networks, thousands of movies for free If I keep the current subscription. I said him, no, no, no, no and then he said he has cancelled my subscription and I won't be billed.

I asked him for the cancellation confirmation email and he told me to wait for 24 hours to receive the confirmation email and check my email from time to time. Motherfucker!

It has been very harsh experience for me and now I know why adult sales are taking month after month.

This is not bitching or anything like that. It is just what I discovered and I believe lots of dudes can't join due to scrubs and declines. This is so bad!!!

For the guys who are having good sales in April, I'm very happy for you and no preaching sermons please.

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Old 04-12-2010, 09:17 PM   #2
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dude it's dead. face it. move on. adapt.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:18 PM   #3
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you sound like a player piano salesman staring at a jukebox. it's over. there is other money to be made out there.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:22 PM   #4
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:24 PM   #5
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dude it's dead. face it. move on. adapt.
Its not dead my friend, we have killed it.

I know there is lots of money to be made in adult and I'm not leaving it anytime soon but a customer wants to get in and billing companies won't let him get inside. WTF
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:32 PM   #6
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Its not dead my friend, we have killed it.

I know there is lots of money to be made in adult and I'm not leaving it anytime soon but a customer wants to get in and billing companies won't let him get inside. WTF
in an economic depression fraud and crime reaches astronomical levels and adult is high risk. cards are going to be declined for a long time.

so unless you have enough money stashed to last out the next ten years i suggest looking at some other revenue streams.

you start a thread like this every week. adapt or die. for real.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:38 PM   #7
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in an economic depression fraud and crime reaches astronomical levels and adult is high risk. cards are going to be declined for a long time.

so unless you have enough money stashed to last out the next ten years i suggest looking at some other revenue streams.

you start a thread like this every week. adapt or die. for real.
I don't know why some guys like you keep jumping on me. If you hate my threads, I request you to stay out and don't respond. If you are having excellent sales, I'm very very happy for you and wish you more!
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:42 PM   #8
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:43 PM   #9
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Thanks for the video.
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Old 04-12-2010, 09:53 PM   #10
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:05 PM   #11
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Tubes, Torrents, File Sharing Sites, Forums, Real Amateur Content, Password Sharing.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:08 PM   #12
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:10 PM   #13
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are thing any better in "mainstream?

i've always wondered what the sell in "mainstream"
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:10 PM   #14
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:13 PM   #15
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are thing any better in "mainstream?

i've always wondered what the sell in "mainstream"
Things are way better in mainstream but It is not very easy to get traffic there. I'm also doing a very little bit of mainstream stuff and ratios are unbelievably good like 1:20 or better.

In adult we are searching for buyers and in mainstream buyers are searching for us.

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Old 04-12-2010, 10:16 PM   #16
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are thing any better in "mainstream?

i've always wondered what the sell in "mainstream"
the buyers are much stupider. the affiliates are retards. if you know adult seo you could sell anything.
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Old 04-12-2010, 10:17 PM   #17
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and you can't torrent a boat.
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:58 PM   #18
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:04 AM   #19
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Things are way better in mainstream but It is not very easy to get traffic there. I'm also doing a very little bit of mainstream stuff and ratios are unbelievably good like 1:20 or better.

In adult we are searching for buyers and in mainstream buyers are searching for us.
what products are you pushing in mainstream?
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:21 AM   #20
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at least make the thread interesting by mentioning the program whose site you joined
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:27 AM   #21
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I agree completely... Its already hard enough for us to get a Surfer to actually signup... and he gets declined...it sucks bad!

I amazed that people are still signing up.... The current mind-set of people is that PORN IS FREE.... just like Music/mp3s are...

Our ONLY hope is a good, working Micro-Payment system.

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Old 04-13-2010, 01:28 AM   #22
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the buyers are much stupider. the affiliates are retards. if you know adult seo you could sell anything.
yeah the problem is that i have no idea what to sell in mainstream

are there mainstream affiliate programs that just give you link codes to their shit to sell?
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:29 AM   #23
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the buyers are much stupider. the affiliates are retards. if you know adult seo you could sell anything.
Stupider?
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:10 AM   #24
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I agree completely... Its already hard enough for us to get a Surfer to actually signup... and he gets declined...it sucks bad!

I amazed that people are still signing up.... The current mind-set of people is that PORN IS FREE.... just like Music/mp3s are...

Our ONLY hope is a good, working Micro-Payment system.

WHO IS WORKING ON THIS?
Yeah, you're exactly right. We need to reduce ticket size to $1 - $3, so when it does work, we're making 90% less!
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:58 AM   #25
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Yeah, you're exactly right. We need to reduce ticket size to $1 - $3, so when it does work, we're making 90% less!
why would you care?
you took off more than enough from your customers
poor people
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:46 AM   #26
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Why not sell something that CAN'T be tubed/leeched/pirated? Sell customized adult content or microniche "1:1" stuff?
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:04 PM   #27
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This thread might still have some truth to it.
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