Vendzilla

Looking though the news and found out about this right network, watch the video with Kelsey Grammer. I'm looking forward to what they come up with

http://rightnetwork.com/

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think about that

GatorB

Republican slanted network. Lost all respect for Kelsey Grammer.

Vendzilla

Why would a difference in politics equat to respect?
If everybody thought the same way, it would be a boring existance.

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

GatorB

Yes because people like Rush, Beck and Hannity are making things in the country WORSE. If anyone is UN-American is them. What they do borders on treason in my book.

I rather live in a boring society where everyone thought correctly.

Vendzilla

So you don't think they deserve protection under freedom of speech?

What exactly is unamerican that they do?

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

gwidomains

Kidn of interesting given Grammer has a recent history of all the majors ... drugs, sex, rock and roll and sex tapes... but I guess so does Rush.

directfiesta

They don't support the President, their country .... they are america haters, terrorists , muslim lovers, terrorist supporters ...


????? sounds familiar ?


BTW, isn't GFY an adult webmaster board ?

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trevesty

They profit off of speaking on the radio/TV to their uneducated listeners/viewers.

There's nothing un-American about that.

Vendzilla

Where do you get they are America haters, your kinda narrow minded to think that because they think differently that they hate America, having a different opinion is about as American as you can get.

And yes, it's an adult webmaster board, whats your point?

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

Vendzilla

bashing the conservatives of the world as uneducated is about as lame as calling Bush a baby killer, but if thats the best you got.

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

Nikki_Licks

If people do not support the president or his band of merry men, meaning all politicians...that hardly makes them Un American, America haters, terrorist, muslim lovers or supporters.

I love my country and have no respect for my government. Loving your country and taking some active roll to expose the scum that is ass fucking the Constitution and running this country into the ground...... is what I would call all American

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Vendzilla

Latest polls say that 4 out of 5 don't trust the government, I thought the distrust was higher

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think about that

Nikki_Licks

4 out of 5 isn't bad and I am sure it might even be higher....who knows.

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Tom_PM

Whats wrong with what they do? They lie. How many times did they playfully joke, or blatantly lie that a person who doesnt purchase health insurance will be fined or jailed? It's a pure lie. Nothing ambiguous about it whatsoever. All penalties were STRIPPED from the bill at the urging of both the left and right. Anyone who feels like it can learn. Which is the key of course. You have to actually want to feel like learning whats true.

The recent poll actually showed 80% dont trust the federal government. Which, by the way, is a standard result for this poll. The only time in the past 50 yrs it was even near 50% approval was only in the immediate days afer 9/11 when the whole world would have (and wanted to) approve any response we had to make.

I watched Foxnews yesterday when Megyn (anchor) interviewed former fox person Alan Colmes about it. She cut him off pretty constantly whenever he pointed out that this was not an anti-obama result, nor even an anti-democrat result. But a fairly standard result. I dont think she believed him. Especially where the poll showed a drop in approval for republicans too.

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Vendzilla

In 2014, everyone must purchase health insurance or face a $695 annual fine. There are some exceptions for low-income people.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...46-503544.html
So does that mean you're lieing?


The poll was about the government as a whole, thats what it said, don't make this about partisan politics, I didn't. There has been a big drop in trust in both parties, thats why the ranks of the tea party are growing.

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think about that

Tom_PM

Yes, the poll was about goverment as a whole, and there were MANY questions on it, you seem to only be aware of 1 of them. What can I tell you? I even cited FOXNEWS as my source. What can I say?

You left out the jail time claims. You must be more informed than foxnews and rush limbaugh. Doesnt that concern you? It's useless.

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IllTestYourGirls

You are right, the IRS has no power to collect the "fine" as it stands NOW. But that wont last long when the system starts to bankrupt itself in the first 2 years. Then I am sure the IRS will have the power to collect the fine and back fines, seize your property and throw you in jail.

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directfiesta

You obviously were not here in 2003 ... or you are suffering from Alzheimer

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devilspost

What the "Right" does is vote against their own best interests. People like Beck Hannity etc.. job is to get the poor dumb asses to fight against one another and never look up to the money elite. So they focus on race and other base prejudices that make it easy to create this fake Left vs Right BS.

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Very true... there is nothing unAmerican about hating the president... In fact I would say all the blind faith people who believe in whatever any given president is preaching are much more unAmerican...

And everyone that doesn't vote... yeah that's unAmerican too... and anyone that doesn't eat cheeseburgers... or didn't buy a US flag after 9/11... or whomever is on the right... or whomever is on the left... or fuck what else? I've heard the UNAMERICAN speech so many times about so many classifications of people just because they don't believe or do X.

Give me a fucking break... I think anyone who believes in redistributing wealth is unamerican but my version is defined by the Constitution of the United States and Bill of Rights...

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Vendzilla

Ok, I'll play your game, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

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think about that

SpongeBub

I think you can trace the real problems in our political process back to the creation of Faux News. Before that garbage, politicians could work together to get things done. Now, every Republican knows if they even speak to a Democrat, Bill O'Douchbag or Sean Fuckety will single them out and call them traitors to the "cause". It's full-contact partisanship taken to the extreme, thanks to Fox Noise.

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Shit went south long before Fox News...

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Vendzilla

Fox just pointed out it went to shit, before that we just had liberal media
Seems people didn't buy it because Oreilly has been number 1 for 9 years

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think about that

BFT3K

If you believe that in the previous 8 years, that Bush helped the middle and lower classes of the US in ANY way, or that America's global standing was boosted in ANY way, then you are a delusional idiot.

If you believe Obama is NOT attempting to right the wrongs of 8 misguided years, and that he is NOT attempting to HELP the lower and middle class, and that he is NOT trying to fix America's global credibility and importance, then once again, you are a delusional idiot.

That is all.

J. Falcon

I don't know if it's unamerican or however you want to label it, but they spread HATE in every fucking show. They supposedly report the news but they spend EVERY FUCKING EPISODE criticizing democrats and defending republicans.

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J. Falcon

What was the liberal media before Fox News?

And give clear examples of why you suppose they were "liberal media".

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BFT3K

If Hilter had a talk show on Fox he would have high ratings too. People are drawn to extreme rhetoric - that does not make it right.

J. Falcon

How the fuck is an asshole, lying, hypocrite, racist, piece of shit like O'Reilly number 1 for 9 years? Are Americans really that fucking stupid? It baffles me, really, how people can take that guy seriously.

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I certainly don't agree with much of what he spouts but I do enjoy the show. I think it gained a lot of it's popularity due to the fact that he was/is very hard lined about getting non political brush off answers to questions...

I really don't agree with many of his points of view but I do enjoy watching the show occasionally depending on the guest...

Does that make me stupid? I don't think so :P However it makes you look ignorant (don't take that as an insult) as to the rest of the variables that are in play with making a show popular...

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BFT3K

It is just another talking point that the morons on the right use to discredit reality.

Both sides battled it out fine before Fox. It was not as one-sided as the brainwashed Fox assholes would like you to believe.

They are hypocrites of the highest order.

They were nowhere to be found when Bush was giving out handouts to the rich, and the bankers, and the big corps that now run this country.

They were nowhere to be found when Cheney was conducting secret energy policies, that have harmed us in countless ways.

They were nowhere to be found when Bush stepped all over the constitution, starting unnecessary wars for the neocons, and blatantly ruining America's reputation globally with illegal torture and wiretapping.

The GOP is a group of SORE LOSERS, and nothing more. They have NOTHING to offer, but hate and ridicule.

Fuck the GOP, Fuck the Tea Party, Fuck Bush Cheney, and Fuck Fox Noise!

J. Falcon

I find him repugnant in every sense of the word. He hardly lets his guests talk, he repeatedly tells them to shut up and disrespects them, he acts like he knows everything and continuously gets his facts wrong. He is just a piece of shit all around.

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Left reporters won't report on what's wrong with the left...

Right reporters won't report on what's wrong with the right...

To expect anything different is ridiculous...

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J. Falcon

The "liberal media" is a fucking myth created by angry right wingers to justify the existence of hate spreading, bullshit news corporation Fox news.

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Agreed, certainly but that doesn't make people who watch the show idiots... it just means they like the entertainment value...

ANY SHOW regardless of type, including news, is based on entertainment value. It's sad but true and the american public have played a major role in shaping just what and how the news is reported to us...

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J. Falcon

With no disrespect towards you, I believe it does make them idiots. Because I am sure that most people who watch him take him seriously and are influenced by his points of view.

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Can't spend hours looking ... but here is an example :

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hate+amer ica

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BFT3K

This country's great right/left divide became very ugly during Bill Clinton's presidency. It was always there, but it wasn't until Fox (which officially launched on October 9, 1986) fanned the flames, and the hatred was heated up to the point where it is today.

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However, I occasionally watch the show for entertainment value or for a specific guest so really you're saying I'm an idiot as well :P

I agree though, most people probably do take him quite literally and many of the right wing fanatics probably take much of his word as law.

I wouldn't change it for the world however... it's free speech and even if I disagreed and hated the content as much as you I'd still never want to see it squashed.

I think your problem is more with the people that watch the show and take the word as law; the right wing extremists. All we can hope to do is educate them (and the left extremists too IMO). Since that's the case I prefer not to call them idiots but instead refer to them as misguided ;) I've seen many an intelligent man fight tooth and nail for an ideal they later realized was incorrect. Sometimes it was hours of debate which changed their mind, sometimes it was a book they read... either way they're still intelligent they just aren't understanding the facts correctly or are two blinded by a set of ideals that they're willing to sacrifice reason at the expense of the emotion which is engaged by that ideal being challenged.

Either way I say educated them don't desecrate them, lol

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Vendzilla

I never said I liked Bush, I don't, 6 years with power and he did nothing but go to war.
Democrats ran on change in 2006 and won, unemployment took a dive since then.
Obama, I don't like him, I don't think he's trying to help the middle class, the middle class wants jobs, they're not getting them, instead they are getting government health care, I think most of them would rather have a job

Yes, criticize the democrats, they are in power and unemployment is at a bad level, but instead of doing something about that, the government has grown, putting more pressure to pay for more government, how is this helping America?
http://www.mrc.org/static/biasbasics/mediabias101.aspx

No, Hitler would make it about him, nothing to do with the "RIGHT"

Please show me where he lied, I'm interested on where you get your information?

I watch him and the one thing I love about the show is that he gives the liberals a place to come on the show, watching it when Jon Stewart comes on is a crack up

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think about that

J. Falcon

That's why I started my previous post with "no disrespect towards you".

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mayabong

I admit I watch, him and beck sometimes. Its good to watch the mainstream news cause you can see where the agenda of the government is going. To take it as fact and let your emotions be driven by it (other than laughter), can be dangerous though.

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Tom_PM

Why do you say "I am sure" when you clearly CANNOT be by definition? Why? Read this:

"In the Senate, the Finance Committee?s health care bill was amended to nullify the possibility of jail time for not paying the penalty tax. It stipulates that in the case of nonpayment, "such taxpayer shall not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty with respect to such failure." Instead, the Senate measure would allow the government to collect the tax by deducting it from any IRS tax-refund checks or other government payments. Should the full Senate approve that language, a House-Senate conference committee would have to wrestle with the question of whether or not a person who refuses to obtain coverage and refuses to pay the penalty can be charged with criminal tax evasion."


It is NOT sure by anyone as of this date, 4/20/10. So you can NOT be sure of anything, and if you were a reporter claiming to be fair, you could report it exactly as written. A committee would have to be selected to even decide! And thats only if they dont pay, AND have no government checks or tax refunds due in the first place. It's a million miles from "I am sure" as a person can get honestly.

So, is it ok that some TV personalities have warned and joked about being sent to jail if you dont buy health insurance? I'm sure to some people it's perfectly fine, and to the rest of us it stinks to high heaven.

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Vendzilla

You are so proving against yourself, have you seen the latest figures under Obama in foreign aid? How much has he spent on further war efforts since taking office?

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think about that

Vendzilla

So what your saying is that the IRS can add more taxes to you to pay for the health care bill, what happens to people that don't pay their taxes?

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think about that

IllTestYourGirls

You really don't believe that the government at some point in time wont come after people who do not pay the fine?

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sperbonzo

I'm not sure what the heck you are talking about, but the things said during the 70s and the 80s on both sides politically were just as divisive as they are today. As for the media, there was ONLY liberal viewpoints represented before the rise of talk radio and Fox. I worked as a camera operator on an ENG truck contracted to KTLA in the 80s. Every single person I worked with and came into contact with was an outspoken liberal, and I personally saw news stories re-edited or just not aired at all in order to align with the viewpoint of the editors and producers, who were all liberals.


You can say what you like about the "Liberal Media" being some kind of false rumour being spread by conservatives, but I know what I witnessed first hand back then, so......





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IllTestYourGirls

I wondering where all the "lefts" mistrust/healthy questioning of government went. What a sad state of affairs.

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J. Falcon

Yeah he gives them a place, in order to ridicule them and cut their mics when they say something he doesn't want to hear.
















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