mayabong

I honestly don't know what you are trying to say.

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Serge Litehead

why should we trust officials who got us in to war and big spending by lying to their people? doesn't make sense at all.

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dyna mo

i know. that is why i repeated it so often and in more than one post.

again-

you would be better served to better understand the official version of why the bldgs fell which is: terrorists flew airplanes into the towers causing them to collapse.

mayabong

So i guess you're saying ignorance is bliss basically?

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dyna mo

quite the opposite. that's the part you are blissfully ignorant about- just because you do not understand the official version as to why those bldgs fell does not mean there was a conspiracy, that's failed logic.

it could simply mean you do not understand.

mayabong

Yes if you want to just say planes hit a building and they fell not taking into account any other evidence of that day, is pretty ignorant if you ask me. This is demon or theKing logic.

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Konkan

All that damage and killing those innocent people was planned by US Gov. so they will have a reason to attack Afganistan to get "charge back" in oil........anyway its an endless story with a lots of victims and unanswered questions.

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The Demon

Blindly claiming "Conspiracy!!" because you want to separate yourself from the rest of the group and for them to acknowledge that, is retarded.

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Amputate Your Head

I've seen enough evidence (or lack of) and heard enough questions (still unanswered) to believe that the whole thing was carefully planned by more than a couple of idiot terrorists that could barely fly.

2 jumbo fucking jets do not simply 'vaporize'. (Pennsylvania & Pentagon)
1 or 2 flying lessons does not provide the skills to fly a jumbo fucking jet, let alone make maneuvers in one that fighter planes make.
Buildings do not collapse by themselves.
The demo charges on the two main towers are clearly visible in the video footage.
Thermite was found.
The crime scenes were fucking erased.
A terrorist's passport does not miraculously remain in-tact through a fireball that incinerates iron fucking girders, concrete, and a jumbo fucking jet.
There is no way a jumbo fucking jet went through that tiny little hole in the Pentagon and simply vanished.
Nothing touched Building 7 in any way, yet it fell straight down at freefall speed. Must have been God's will.

mayabong

Blindly hahahahaha. The Demon = theKing

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Quagmire

your mom was pre-wired to blow.

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Quagmire

dude's got some balls on him

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the amount of illuminati COINTELPRO Gov agents trolling this forum is unbelievable.

Do you get paid over-time?

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theking

Pigshit.

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Your computer people made mistakes on 9/11

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Serge Litehead

I'm not claiming anything, I doubt official story. Officials and media have very little credibility in my eyes.

I had an eye opening experience regarding this in August 08 when EVERYBODY here on west were blindly chanting mantra that Russia is attacking Georgia out of nowhere and US Gov made some rather pathetic statements at the time it was happening (guess who sponsored and trained Georgian military). I was following news on both sides. Coincidently not single major media network showed Russian side of a story like you'd expect from professional journalists. They play you like they want and you voluntarily spread your butt cheeks and repeat all their mantras while being deeply fucked. That is very patriotic!

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Going Going GONE - matrix style CGI at its finest.

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Serge Litehead

I get what you are saying and appreciate being considerate. if we all keep quiet and hold our heads down, what kind of society are we?

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Or we can listen to mayabong and understand the consequences of hard drugs.

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Serge Litehead

it must be some good shit he is on because he talks more sense then the majority, I just hope he is not gideon in disguise
i'm not agreeing with all he says simply because I can't verify some of the things

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mayabong

I'm not sure what a Giedon in disguise is, but I don't think I am one. I usually don't say something unless it can be verified, what have I said that you're not sure of? Maybe I can verify.. sometimes I do get carried away and forget to show proof though.

Demon (Theking) yes I've done lots of mushrooms and LSD not much on marijuana cause I feel it makes me forget things.

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Serge Litehead

I respect that you're looking for answers and have shared some interesting bits of info and links previously.

here's the thing, how can dual citizenship of somebody be verified without that person confirming it and showing their two passports for instance? i'm not sure if that info can be validated by any other means.

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The military talked about incorporating video fakery since at least 1995

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INFORMATION WARFARE

Prof George J. Stein, AWC
Airpower Journal - Spring 1995

Let us take just one example of how current technologies could be used for strategic-level information warfare. If, say, the capabilities of already well-known Hollywood technologies to simulate reality were added to our arsenal, a genuinely revolutionary new form of warfare would become possible. Today, the techniques of combining live actors with computer-generated video graphics can easily create a "virtual" news conference, summit meeting, or perhaps even a battle that would exist in "effect" though not in physical fact. Stored video images can be recombined or "morphed" endlessly to produce any effect chosen. This moves well beyond traditional military deception, and now, perhaps, "pictures" will be worth a thousand tanks.

Digitally altering live TV events has been possible since at least 1998.


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A winner of multiple Emmy Awards for technical achievement, the Virtual Yellow 1st and Ten Line makes use of Sportvision?s patented video overlay technology to create the illusion that a yellow first-down line is painted on the field, allowing players to cross over and stand on it. Invented by Sportvision and first introduced in 1998, 1st and Ten allows viewers to see the necessary distance for a first down as plays progress... - sportvision.com

The media has been informing us that the technical capabilities of using TV fakery in live broadcasts exist and have been warning the public about its use before 9/11:


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When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing

By William M. Arkin
Special to washingtonpost.com
Monday, Feb. 1, 1999

A Box of Chocolates is Like War

Most Americans were introduced to the tricks of the digital age in the movie Forrest Gump [1994], when the character played by Tom Hanks appeared to shake hands with President Kennedy.

For Hollywood, it is special effects. For covert operators in the U.S. military and intelligence agencies, it is a weapon of the future.

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When TV brings you the news as it didn't happen

Broadcasters are using virtual imaging technology to alter live broadcasts - and not even the news is safe from tampering

Monday, 24 January 2000
independent.co.uk

Viewers tuning into American broadcaster CBS's recent news coverage of the millennium celebrations in New York witnessed a televisual sleight of hand which enabled CBS to alter the reality of what they saw. Using "virtual imaging" technology, the broadcaster seamlessly adjusted live video images to include an apparently real promotion for itself in Times Square. The move has sparked debate about the ethics of using advances in broadcast technology to alter reality without telling viewers that what they are seeing isn't really there.

The technology to do this comes from the defence industry where, following the end of the Cold War, a number of companies have developed new ways of commercially exploiting their military navigation and tracking expertise.

None of the companies will publicly discuss how their's works. But the principle is common: each alters the live video image in the split second before it is broadcast.

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Lying With Pixels

July/August 2000 (Updated)

Seeing is no longer believing. The image you see on the evening news could well be a fake?a fabrication of fast new video-manipulation technology.

By Ivan Amato
technologyreview.com

In the fraction of a second between video frames, any person or object moving in the foreground can be edited out, and objects that aren?t there can be edited in and made to look real.
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Compared to PVI?s job, the military?s technical task was more difficult?and the stakes were much higher... the TIGER team manipulated a live video feed from a Predator, an unmanned reconnaissance craft flying some 450 meters above Kosovo battlefields... the task was to overlay, in real time, ?georegistered? images of Kosovo onto the corresponding scenes streaming in live from the Predator?s video camera. The terrain images had been previously captured with aerial photography and digitally stored.
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It is perfectly possible now to insert sets of pixels into satellite imagery data that interpreters would view as battalions of tanks, or war planes, or burial sites, or lines of refugees, or dead cows that activists claim are victims of a biotech accident.
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There?s a big difference now, says Haseltine: ?What used to take an hour [per video frame], now can be done in a sixtieth of a second.? This dramatic speed-up means that manipulation can be done in real time, on the fly, as a camera records or broadcasts.
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The combination of real-time virtual insertion, cyber-puppeteering, video rewriting and other video manipulation technologies with a mass-media infrastructure that instantly delivers news video worldwide has some analysts worried.

?I?m amazed that we have not seen phony video,? he says, before backpedaling a bit: ?Maybe we have. Who would know??

It?s just the sort of scenario played out in the 1998 movie Wag the Dog, in which top presidential aides conspire with a Hollywood producer to televise a virtually crafted war between the United States and Albania to deflect attention from a budding Presidential scandal. Haseltine and others wonder when reality will imitate art imitating reality.
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Combine the potential erosion of faith in video authenticity with the so-called "CNN effect" and the stage is set for deception to move the world in new ways. Livingston describes the CNN effect as the ability of mass media to go beyond merely reporting what is happening to actually influencing decision-makers as they consider military, international assistance and other national and international issues. "The CNN effect is real," says James Currie, professor of political science at the National Defense University at Fort McNair in Washington. "Every office you go into at the Pentagon has CNN on." And that means, he says, that a government, terrorist or advocacy group could set geopolitical events in motion on the strength of a few hours' worth of credibility achieved by distributing a snippet of well-doctored video.
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With experience as an army reservist, as a staffer with a top-secret clearance on the Senate?s Intelligence Committee, and as a legislative liaison for the Secretary of the Army, Currie has seen governmental decision-making and politicking up close. He is convinced that real-time video manipulation will be, or already is, in the hands of the military and intelligence communities.

The military also had PSYOPS personnel infiltrated in the media before 9/11:

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Army 'psyops' at CNN

News giant employed military 'psychological operations' personnel

Posted: March 03, 2000

By Geoff Metcalf
worldnetdaily.com

CNN employed active duty U.S. Army psychological operations personnel last year, WorldNetDaily has confirmed through several sources at Fort Bragg and elsewhere.

Maj. Thomas Collins, U.S. Information Service has confirmed that "psyops" (psychological operations) personnel, soldiers and officers, have worked in the CNN headquarters in Atlanta. The lend/lease exercise was part of an Army program called "Training With Industry." According to Collins, the soldiers and officers, "... worked as regular employees of CNN. Conceivably, they would have worked on stories during the Kosovo war. They helped in the production of news."
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The CNN military personnel were members of the Airmobile Fourth Psychological Operations Group, stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. One of the main tasks of this group of almost 1200 soldiers and officers is to spread 'selected information.' Critics say that means dissemination of propaganda.

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Quagmire

So the whole sky was edited with CGI effects? What did the people on the ground see when the planes slammed in to the towers?

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mayabong

Even I stop when it comes to the CGI

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bbobby86

i don`t know too...

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dav3

Amazing how clean that plane goes in, doesn't even mess with the adjacent corner. Looks to be close enough to have shattered the other side's windows from the inside.

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Minte

David Copperfield is a genius. And I hear a distant cousin to Don Rumsfeld. ;)

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