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Old 05-06-2010, 08:26 AM   #1
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To any americans who feel petrol is too expensive...

...I just filled up my SUV yesterday for $113.87 (70something liters). I'm gonna be trading it in for a diesel real soon I think.
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It's amazing how gas prices rise so much. I remember back in 1997, the gas price was something like $0.40 for liter in Canada.
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Madness foo.

Most in the U.S. gripe when it's $50.00 for a tank of gas.
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Madness foo.

Most in the U.S. gripe when it's $50.00 for a tank of gas.
thats what i pay
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Madness foo.

Most in the U.S. gripe when it's $50.00 for a tank of gas.
Yeah, my Z costs about $40 to fill up right now (with 93 octane premium), and my Rav4 is about the same. Even that feels like a lot compared to 5 years ago.
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How much of that are taxes?
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About 60 bucks to fill up. That lasts about a week.
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Most americans have never experienced expensive gas.
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How much of that are taxes?
About 60%



More in the EU and the UK

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Most americans have never experienced expensive gas.
Word.


We pay about double or even more here probably...
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Thats nothing Konr4d

Last week I filled up my tank. 71 liters x1,579 euro. Ran me around 112 euro. It's crazy.
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I spend around 55 - 60 dollars a tank in So Cal.
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im considering the expense of petrol to be FAR higher than anything monetary.

it is raping my country as we speak.
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...I just filled up my SUV yesterday for $113.87 (70something liters). I'm gonna be trading it in for a diesel real soon I think.
I have a Chevy 4X4 pickup 2500HD turbo diesel that gets low 20's mpg even when pulling a loaded trailer. Diesel is the way to go. Holding more than 60 gallons of fuel I can go over 1200 miles between stops. (but my bladder can't)


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Thats nothing Konr4d

Last week I filled up my tank. 71 liters x1,579 euro. Ran me around 112 euro. It's crazy.
sounds VERY familiar to me - $140 for about 350 miles - thats why i call it a hobby and not a car
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sounds VERY familiar to me - $140 for about 350 miles - thats why i call it a hobby and not a car
Didn't your old avatar have what I thought was a 928 in it?


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Gas in Denmark is around $2 pr liter or $8 pr gallon
And that was 18 months ago....

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And that was 18 months ago....

Stop bitching
Don't taxes make up the price difference? Is the actual cost of the product that much more?


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it's a 968

I was close! ... and only the door area was showing, pretty good guess.

And yes, that cool car would fall under hobby not transportation.

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Prices will have to go much higher for American's to be willing to truly put effort into funding alternative means such as trains, hydrogen and electric.

A lot of American's say they believe in alternative fuel but few are willing to spend the money for the conversion to these alternatives.

Until our energy prices go super high nothing will happen.
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I have never been to Europe (which I hope to change relatively soon) but my impression is that Europeans enjoy great public transportation and destinations that are relative close like groceries within walking distance and such. Americans, the vast majority of Americans have to travel much longer distances and no access to public transport. It is different in big cities but for those of us not in metropolitan areas a car is our only means to get to the places we need to go.....We spend a lot of money on fuel, just considerably less per gallon
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I'm around $122 - $ 128 to fill up as I just tried to calculate

Yes, I walk to any place that takes up to 20 minutes by walk

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Don't taxes make up the price difference? Is the actual cost of the product that much more?


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Some of the extra would be taxes yes but not a lot.
Every country has different set oil prices, i forget the name of the association calculating and taking care of that.
But governed on a global scale....
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Why is that though ??
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Actually the gas taxes in us are nowhere near 60%:

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/usgastaxes.asp

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More in the EU and the UK

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Gas was 1.17 a liter here. 1.30 for the 93 oc. Cost me 50$ to fill the car and 75$ to fill the suv nowadays. I was in a rush the other day I put in 50$ and I had just under 3/4 of a tank. Now that's depressing..lol

But what can you do. Beats walking..lol
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500 pesos or about 44$ gets me about 3/4 of a tank of premium gas in an F150
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Last week I filled up my tank. 71 liters x1,579 euro. Ran me around 112 euro. It's crazy.
my god, where do you live? I am paying about 1,16 EUR per liter of diesel. I need about one tank per 8 days or so (about 62 liters per tank)
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I have never been to Europe (which I hope to change relatively soon) but my impression is that Europeans enjoy great public transportation and destinations that are relative close like groceries within walking distance and such. Americans, the vast majority of Americans have to travel much longer distances and no access to public transport. It is different in big cities but for those of us not in metropolitan areas a car is our only means to get to the places we need to go.....We spend a lot of money on fuel, just considerably less per gallon
The problem with public transportation over here is that it's usually totally full, including:

- golden kids with mega super huge smartphones and 140 decibel ringtones
- soft drugs abusers
- radioactive pensioners
- all kinds of psycho cases
- ghetto mentality gypsies

So I actually prefer to walk to any place that's within the 20 min reach

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...I just filled up my SUV yesterday for $113.87 (70something liters). I'm gonna be trading it in for a diesel real soon I think.
It'd cost the same as $133.15 to do that in the UK ;(
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I have never been to Europe (which I hope to change relatively soon) but my impression is that Europeans enjoy great public transportation and destinations that are relative close like groceries within walking distance and such. Americans, the vast majority of Americans have to travel much longer distances and no access to public transport. It is different in big cities but for those of us not in metropolitan areas a car is our only means to get to the places we need to go.....We spend a lot of money on fuel, just considerably less per gallon
Europe does have areas that don't provide such great public transport. If you live out of the city you are reliant on your car also. Not everyone lives next to a bus stop or train station that actually goes anywhere useful.

I've been to numerous places in the UK and France that require a car for just getting the milk in (10 mile drive to get milk).
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Wow if thats real then I never realised how easy other countries get it. Although I'm sure they add taxes to that price?
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It's 1.55 euro a liter here at the moment, works out to $7.53 per gallon.
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I'm paying about $AUD1.30 per litre which is about $USD1.18/L or $USD4.47 per gallon

Does petrol pricing follow a weekly cycle in other parts of the world? Around here it's usually cheapest on Thursday. There have been numerous anticompetitive investigations into price fixing but no one in the govt seems to be able to figure out that petrol prices changing around the RETAIL market (not the supply prices) are highly suspicious...
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what do people in Europe pay for car insurance?
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what do people in Europe pay for car insurance?
Over here (Central Europe, Czech Republic) it's roughly about:

engine:

1.6 - 1.8 - cca $ 350 a year

over 1.8 - cca $ 450 a year

over 2.5 - cca $ 550 a year

This is the basic mandatory insurance that you are forced to pay with any registered vehicle, not including any assistance services or accident insurance, that can add as much as another 50 - 150 pct. on top of that depending on the plan.

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I filled up 2 days ago

74.58 litres - £89.42 - $132.05 - €103.91

And that's not even the most expensive price in the area.

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space...that is it in a nutshell. I live in a very small town..... the population is under 6K but is spread out over a pretty large area. Lots of it is rural and the area could not support public transportation. We have vans that will help out the elderly and infirmed to get around but that is it. Americans also seem to be pretty strong opposed to paying taxes for improved infrastructure which would include public transportation
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Europe does have areas that don't provide such great public transport. If you live out of the city you are reliant on your car also. Not everyone lives next to a bus stop or train station that actually goes anywhere useful.

I've been to numerous places in the UK and France that require a car for just getting the milk in (10 mile drive to get milk).
I used to talk to this guy in Germany several years ago. He used to delight in giving me a hard time about how Americans were 'obsessed' with their autos. It was difficult trying to explain to him that not only do you practically have to have a car here, but it better be reliable.... he told me he thought it was foolish and very American.

Then he visited here for his sister's wedding and could not believe how vast the distances were here with absolutely no civilization for miles in any direction. he stopped giving me a hard time and said he understood now
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