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brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 06:05 AM

Twelve More States Want an Immigration Law Like Arizona?s!

Less than two weeks after Arizona passed an immigration law giving its police the authority to arrest illegal aliens, politicians in twelve other states are introducing legislation to pass the same sort of law in their states. One article notes ?ALIPAC has documented efforts by state lawmakers to file SB 1070 in 12 states already including Arkansas, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, and Utah.?

For years, the federal government has played a game in which the Border Patrol was badly understaffed and betrayed because both political parties were selling us out on immigration. The Democrats stood the most to gain since about 80 percent of Latinos vote Democrat. The Republicans were allowing the flood of illegals for the sake of big corporations that wanted cheap labor. Some Republicans such as the Bush family and John McCain think the future Republican Party should be heavily Latino, even though the interests of White people and Latinos are frequently in conflict.

A chorus of Jewish intellectuals has insisted that the Arizona law will be declared null and void because they claim that the ability to arrest illegal immigrants is a monopoly of the federal government. These are the same Jewish intellectuals who looked at the Second Amendment?s ?right to keep and bear arms? and then declared that the Second Amendment doesn?t protect our right to own or carry concealed guns for our self defense. As usual, the truth and what the Jews say are two different things.

In 1996, the Immigration department declared that it wanted local police to help round up illegal aliens. The Immigration and Custom Enforcement website proclaims ?The 287(g) program, one of ICE?s top partnership initiatives, allows a state and local law enforcement entity to enter into a partnership with ICE, under a joint Memorandum of Agreement (MOA), in order to receive delegated authority for immigration enforcement within their jurisdictions.?

Unfortunately, this program apparently throws up enough red tape and hurdles that only about 1,130 local police are participating out of over 600,000 local police in the US. ICE requires local police to go to a special federal school before they can arrest illegal aliens. Police officers are already trained to spot a wide variety of law-breakers. Why should they have to go to a school to learn that a person with no ID and who can?t speak English is probably an illegal alien?

Sheriff Joe Arpaio was one of the few who sent his deputies to this school so he could get the authority to arrest illegals, but over 99 percent of police chiefs and sheriffs felt the ICE requirements were too burdensome (as they were no doubt designed to be).

All the Arizona Immigration Law does is give their police and state troopers the authority to arrest illegal aliens when they are pulled over for traffic offenses or caught committing a crime (without having to go through a special training program and without needing special permission from ICE). Local police are already empowered to arrest a wide range of criminals who are violating federal law. Imagine a police officer, who discovers a counterfeiting operation. Does anyone seriously think he should just let the counterfeiters go or should he detain them until the Secret Service shows up? Arresting illegal aliens is essentially no different, although there are probably Jewish law professors who would still try to argue against this.

The reason that Democrats and liberals are literally going crazy and calling for boycotts is that the Arizona law could arrest and deport a seriously large percentage of illegal aliens in their state. The Democrats are counting on new Latino voters to give them a permanent majority and perpetual political power. The thought that America might actually lose or scare off illegal aliens is a nightmare for Democrats that is long overdue.

The United States is currently in a Depression regardless of what the liberal media or certain hack politicians might say. The real unemployment rate is close to 20 percent, much worse the official 12 or 13 percent that states like California and Florida are admitting. We do not need ANY illegal aliens and we definitely do not need the governmental costs they create. One news article notes ??the current fiscal cost outlays for the illegal alien population in California are now approaching $13.1 billion annually more than half the projected (state budget) shortfall for next year.?

One reason Utah politicians want to pass an immigration law just like Arizona?s is that they are afraid of being swamped by illegal aliens from Arizona. In ten years time, there will be two types of states in the US, states that passed an immigration law like Arizona and states that are bankrupt and crawling with Mexicans.

DamianJ · 05-11-2010, 06:11 AM

The New Colossus
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Emma Lazarus, 1883

sperbonzo · 05-11-2010, 06:15 AM

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[SIZE="4"] Some Republicans such as the Bush family and John McCain think the future Republican Party should be heavily Latino, even though the interests of White people and Latinos are frequently in conflict.

A chorus of Jewish intellectuals has insisted that the Arizona law will be declared null and void because they claim that the ability to arrest illegal immigrants is a monopoly of the federal government. These are the same Jewish intellectuals who looked at the Second Amendment?s ?right to keep and bear arms? and then declared that the Second Amendment doesn?t protect our right to own or carry concealed guns for our self defense. As usual, the truth and what the Jews say are two different things.

Ok, this is just bizarre. I personally agree with the Arizona Law, and that other states should adopt it, but who the hell wrote all of this RACIST CRAP?

"As usual, the truth and what the Jews say are two different things."

"the interests of White people and Latinos are frequently in conflict."

Do you actually agree with the Asshat that wrote this S**T? This issue is about illegal immigration, not race. It's total Fu**tards like this author that muddy the damn water with their bigotry.

I can't believe you would post this Bulls**t....

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brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 06:21 AM

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Ok, this is just bizarre. I personally agree with the Arizona Law, and that other states should adopt it, but who the hell wrote all of this RACIST CRAP?

"As usual, the truth and what the Jews say are two different things."

"the interests of White people and Latinos are frequently in conflict."

Do you actually agree with the Asshat that wrote this S**T? This issue is about illegal immigration, not race. It's total Fu**tards like this author that muddy the damn water with their bigotry.

I can't believe you would post this Bulls**t....

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im not a racist and what's weird your slurring of mentally challenged people "Fu**tards"

while saying he's racist

sperbonzo · 05-11-2010, 06:26 AM

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im not a racist and what's weird your slurring of mentally challenged people "Fu**tards"

while saying he's racist

If you think the use of a derogatory slang term in a quick forum post is on the same level with a fully written, edited article, then I don't understand you at all. Are you actually defending this person? This sounds like you are deflecting the point of what I'm saying. I assume that you read this piece prior to posting it, so should I infer from that, that you agree with the sentiments expressed in it?

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brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 06:28 AM

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If you think the use of a derogatory slang term in a quick forum post is on the same level with a fully written, edited article, then I don't understand you at all. Are you actually defending this person? This sounds like you are deflecting the point of what I'm saying. I assume that you read this piece prior to posting it, so should I infer from that, that you agree with the sentiments expressed in it?

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no im not defending what he said. adding you to my ignore list thanx

sperbonzo · 05-11-2010, 06:30 AM

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no im not defending what he said. adding you to my ignore list thanx

Not at all. Thank YOU sir!

(I guess this is how debates go these days on GFY. LMAO!!!!!)

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Nikki_Licks · 05-11-2010, 06:35 AM

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If you think the use of a derogatory slang term in a quick forum post is on the same level with a fully written, edited article, then I don't understand you at all. Are you actually defending this person? This sounds like you are deflecting the point of what I'm saying. I assume that you read this piece prior to posting it, so should I infer from that, that you agree with the sentiments expressed in it?

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I think he posted the entire article to show that other states want to adapt their own law like Arizona has and did not edit any of it.....gawd forbid if he did, someone would be giving him a load of crap for it.

I agree with you, these are racist comments and I have no idea how that played into the article or the illegal immigrant issue...especially about the Jews

This is a illegal immigration issue and not a race issue

cwd · 05-11-2010, 06:35 AM

whether you agree or disagree with the Arizona law that is an awful article. Is there a link from where you got it?

escorpio · 05-11-2010, 06:40 AM

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no im not defending what he said. adding you to my ignore list thanx

You got owned, chango.

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 06:48 AM

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I think he posted the entire article to show that other states want to adapt their own law like Arizona has and did not edit any of it.....gawd forbid if he did, someone would be giving him a load of crap for it.

I agree with you, these are racist comments and I have no idea how that played into the article or the illegal immigrant issue...especially about the Jews

This is a illegal immigration issue and not a race issue

yes my bad now the troll's are going to jump me

I DIDNT WRITE THE ARTICLE!

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 06:51 AM

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TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 06:54 AM

Glad other states are doing it....

Side note: If people really think we're in a depression, they seriously need to go educate themselves.

escorpio · 05-11-2010, 07:04 AM

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Caligari · 05-11-2010, 07:05 AM

cuz those damn goobacks are takin r jobs!

law is inherently racist because it targets one ethnic group thus racial profiling etc. arizona politicians couldn't prevent Obama from being president or having a latina on the supreme court so they're trying to pull their own states rights crap. have they hoisted the confederate flag yet?

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 07:14 AM

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lil weezy and whats your point man your pushing half a century and act childish do you hate blacks?

escorpio · 05-11-2010, 07:21 AM

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lil weezy and whats your point man your pushing half a century and act childish do you hate blacks?

You post a stereotypical caricature of a Mexican and you call me childish for posting a picture of a negro hero in response? What's your issue, boy?

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 07:25 AM

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You post a pic of a Mexican and you call me childish for posting a picture of a negro hero in response? What's your issue, boy?

man you have some built up anger calling me a chango and boy

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 07:26 AM

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cuz those damn goobacks are takin r jobs!

law is inherently racist because it targets one ethnic group thus racial profiling etc. arizona politicians couldn't prevent Obama from being president or having a latina on the supreme court so they're trying to pull their own states rights crap. have they hoisted the confederate flag yet?

We will once we start kicking out the people that don't understand how the foundation of our entire Country is setup and operates every day of the week.

escorpio · 05-11-2010, 07:57 AM

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man you have some built up anger calling me a chango and boy

You're not a young chango?

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:14 AM

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You're not a young chango?

what speak fucking english!!

is that ghetto slang?

escorpio · 05-11-2010, 08:22 AM

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what speak fucking english!!

is that ghetto slang?

Tu sabes eres chango!

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 08:23 AM

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what speak fucking english!!

is that ghetto slang?

The Spanish word for monkey is chango.

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:25 AM

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Tu sabes eres chango!

hispano típico

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 08:31 AM

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hispano típico

Usted inmigrante ilegal, Típico y malo.

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:34 AM

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Usted inmigrante ilegal, Típico y malo.

deportar a todos

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 08:37 AM

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deportar a todos

Con doce más lo Indica sucederá pronto.

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 08:39 AM

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I think he posted the entire article to show that other states want to adapt their own law like Arizona has and did not edit any of it.....gawd forbid if he did, someone would be giving him a load of crap for it.

I agree with you, these are racist comments and I have no idea how that played into the article or the illegal immigrant issue...especially about the Jews

This is a illegal immigration issue and not a race issue

i'm going to go ahead and disagree

unless you can find some sort of example of where there is schools for cops to go for training and arrest any canadian-looking person for illegal immigration, this is definitely a race issue

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:39 AM

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Con doce más lo Indica sucederá pronto.

sí que son sanguijuelas

escorpio · 05-11-2010, 08:42 AM

It appears El Chango y El Medico are ready for La Reconquista! Viva Espanol!

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:42 AM

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i'm going to go ahead and disagree

unless you can find some sort of example of where there is schools for cops to go for training and arrest any canadian-looking person for illegal immigration, this is definitely a race issue

is canada 3rd world country answer is no are canadians sneaking into the United States to work in the millions answer is no theres your answer

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

If you think the use of a derogatory slang term in a quick forum post is on the same level with a fully written, edited article, then I don't understand you at all. Are you actually defending this person? This sounds like you are deflecting the point of what I'm saying. I assume that you read this piece prior to posting it, so should I infer from that, that you agree with the sentiments expressed in it?

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it's easy getting caught up in the intellectual ability of surety, but when those same nuances of intelligence commit the same acts of arrogant ignorance... sometimes one needs to remember that fruit comes in all shapes and sizes

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 08:45 AM

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is canada 3rd world country answer is no are canadians sneaking into the United States to work in the millions answer is no theres your answer

exactly, targeted specifically against people from Mexico, or 'mexican looking'

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:48 AM

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It appears El Chango y El Medico are ready for La Reconquista! Viva Espanol!

nacidos en América. sin ancla más bebés!

escorpio · 05-11-2010, 08:52 AM

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nacidos en América. sin ancla más bebés!

Negroes don't have "anchor babies", they have "welfare babies." How many do you have?

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:52 AM

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exactly, targeted specifically against people from Mexico, or 'mexican looking'

because that is the issue the majority are hispanics the race card is being played

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 08:53 AM

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i'm going to go ahead and disagree

unless you can find some sort of example of where there is schools for cops to go for training and arrest any canadian-looking person for illegal immigration, this is definitely a race issue

So you think it's a race issue, when a Cop has already arrested a illegal that was found guilty of a criminal charge, which illegally returned to the Country and is standing 1 foot from the Cop but with the Current laws, the Cop can't do or say anything even though he knows without asking for ID that it's the same illegal which shot your kid in a drive by a few years back... the guy is breaking two federal laws, and is a violent criminal - and you think that's safe enough to just ignore?

Or... right now it takes 2-3 hours for a Cop to process an illegal - that wait time can be waiting for BP alone taking the Cop off duty the entire time. New law allows them to process them like any other Criminal - about 1 hour.

We have laws to protect from racial profiling in the bill, state laws, and fed level. Cops have had extreme training on racial profiling. Cops have been given the power to do this directly from the Fed before, and training was offered then as well - many AZ police departments took the training - which was said to be no different than the State training - and nobody screamed about then.

Thinking this is about race is silly.. When a huge percentage of the people that drafted the Bill and support the bill are a hugely Latino. It's not like a bunch of White people made this bill - they would or could never do that in current times.

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 08:58 AM

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Negroes don't have "anchor babies", they have "welfare babies." How many do you have?

los ilegales serán enviados a casa gracias jesus. está pitty racistas a su madre y su padre

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 09:03 AM

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So you thing it's a race issue, when a Cop has already arrested a illegal that was found guilty of a criminal charge, which illegally returned to the Country and is standing 1 foot from the Cop but with the Current laws, the Cop can't do or say anything even though he knows without asking for ID that it's the same illegal which shot your kid in a drive by a few years back... the guy is breaking two federal laws, and is a violent criminal - and you think that's safe enough to just ignore?

Or... right now it takes 2-3 hours for a Cop to process an illegal - that wait time can be waiting for BP alone taking the Cop off duty the entire time. New law allows them to process them like any other Criminal - about 1 hour.

We have laws to protect from racial profiling in the bill, state laws, and fed level. Cops have had extreme training on racial profiling. Cops have been given the power to do this directly from the Fed before, and training was offered then as well - many AZ police departments took the training - which was said to be no different than the State training - and nobody screamed about then.

Thinking this is about race is silly.. When a huge percentage of the people that drafted the Bill and support the bill are a hugely Latino. It's not like a bunch of White people made this bill - they would or could never do that in current times.

could or would? the state just did

frankly this isn't so much about specifics and reasons and examples. This is about principle and creating precedents for the future. it isn't about the cops of today going to school for training, it's about the cops of tomorrow feeling justified and comfortable with racial/social profiling and arrest

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 09:11 AM

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could or would? the state just did

frankly this isn't so much about specifics and reasons and examples. This is about principle and creating precedents for the future. it isn't about the cops of today going to school for training, it's about the cops of tomorrow feeling justified and comfortable with racial/social profiling and arrest

Again "white people" could or would not make this bill - the Majority are Latino that drafted it. If we didn't have that majority, white people would have said No thinking they would have been accused of being a racist.

That's why saying the bill is racist... is just silly.

Why would racial profiling be allowed more later than now or be any different? If anything, laws will make racial profiling even more harsh than they already are, which has been happening.

With the new bill, before State and Federal laws, if a Cop racial profiles - himself and the department can be directly sued, funds cut, jobs lost and even criminal charges pressed - that's before the State and Fed come down on you.

This entire racial profile arguement is just stupid... if you're illegal and they "profile" you, it's not Racial. It's Racial when they ID you when you're sitting at the buss stop - which Border Patrol can do already.. but Cops can't do even with the new law.

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 09:14 AM

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Why would racial profiling be allowed more later than now or be any different? If anything, laws will make racial profiling even more harsh than they already are, which has been happening.

With the new bill, before State and Federal laws, if a Cop racial profiles - himself and the department can be directly sued, funds cut, jobs lost and even criminal charges pressed - that's before the State and Fed come down on you.

This entire racial profile arguement is just stupid... if you're illegal and they "profile" you, it's not Racial. It's Racial when they ID you when you're sitting at the buss stop - which Border Patrol can do already.. but Cops can't do even with the new law.

where i come from, cops get away with murder

you're saying the cops will get arrested, lose their jobs, sued for 'racial profiling'?

all for a bunch of 'dirty illegals'?

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 09:16 AM

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Again "white people" could or would not make this bill - the Majority are Latino that drafted it. If we didn't have that majority, white people would have said No thinking they would have been accused of being a racist.

Why would racial profiling be allowed more later than now or be any different? If anything, laws will make racial profiling even more harsh than they already are, which has been happening.

With the new bill, before State and Federal laws, if a Cop racial profiles - himself and the department can be directly sued, funds cut, jobs lost and even criminal charges pressed - that's before the State and Fed come down on you.

This entire racial profile arguement is just stupid... if you're illegal and they "profile" you, it's not Racial. It's Racial when they ID you when you're sitting at the buss stop - which Border Patrol can do already.. but Cops can't do even with the new law.

it was a loop hole in the system well the future is here

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 09:23 AM

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where i come from, cops get away with murder

you're saying the cops will get arrested, lose their jobs, sued for 'racial profiling'?

all for a bunch of 'dirty illegals'?

Sued, for sure.. it's written into the new Bill and human rights groups are gearing up for that, without question.

However, it's not racial profiling when they're illegals - they're Criminals.. while the human rights groups will be looking for abuse with illegals, the focus is on actual racial profiling which is targeting brown skin people that weren't doing anything wrong and aren't illegal but yet, get treated like one because they have brown skin and talk different.

Will that happen? Sure... but no more than it does now. Cops don't need to racial profile to bust illegals, they just need a law that allows them to do what they should be doing already - which is arrest criminals.

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 09:24 AM

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Again "white people" could or would not make this bill - the Majority are Latino that drafted it. If we didn't have that majority, white people would have said No thinking they would have been accused of being a racist.

That's why saying the bill is racist... is just silly.

Why would racial profiling be allowed more later than now or be any different? If anything, laws will make racial profiling even more harsh than they already are, which has been happening.

With the new bill, before State and Federal laws, if a Cop racial profiles - himself and the department can be directly sued, funds cut, jobs lost and even criminal charges pressed - that's before the State and Fed come down on you.

This entire racial profile arguement is just stupid... if you're illegal and they "profile" you, it's not Racial. It's Racial when they ID you when you're sitting at the buss stop - which Border Patrol can do already.. but Cops can't do even with the new law.

my point is if something was also set up for canadians, even with budget allowances of the estimated amount of canadians to be apprehended, there would be no discussion here

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 09:25 AM

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where i come from, cops get away with murder

you're saying the cops will get arrested, lose their jobs, sued for 'racial profiling'?

all for a bunch of 'dirty illegals'?

you said the dirty part but illegal is illegal

TheDoc · 05-11-2010, 09:31 AM

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my point is if something was also set up for canadians, even with budget allowances of the estimated amount of canadians to be apprehended, there would be no discussion here

A Canadian is subject to this as much as any other Illegal that is here.. If you're pulled over, asked for an ID, they will then ask for your passport, no different than now. And by federal law if you're visiting America, those are papers you have to keep on you at all times - under Federal law.

Just like if I visit Canada or even work in Canada.

If you can't produce these papers because you're Illegal, you will be processed and treated like any other Illegal Criminal.

sperbonzo · 05-11-2010, 09:34 AM

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my point is if something was also set up for canadians, even with budget allowances of the estimated amount of canadians to be apprehended, there would be no discussion here

Have you actually READ the law that you are so quick to call racist?

Just wondering. It's only 19 pages or so.

Perhaps you should.

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 09:35 AM

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A Canadian is subject to this as much as any other Illegal that is here.. If you're pulled over, asked for an ID, they will then ask for your passport, no different than now. And by federal law if you're visiting America, those are papers you have to keep on you at all times - under Federal law.

Just like if I visit Canada or even work in Canada.

If you can't produce these papers because you're Illegal, you will be processed and treated like any other Illegal Criminal.

fair enough, but generally when i visit the states my 'papers' are locked in a safe.. i get by with photo id till the docs are requested for.

regardless, you see where i am coming from.

brassmonkey · 05-11-2010, 09:43 AM

¿dónde está mi troll hispano

_Richard_ · 05-11-2010, 10:24 AM

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Have you actually READ the law that you are so quick to call racist?

Just wondering. It's only 19 pages or so.

Perhaps you should.

i don't need to read a book about the molecular structure of an apple to call it what it is

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brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,086	Arizona is the topic Twelve More States Want an Immigration Law Like Arizona?s! Less than two weeks after Arizona passed an immigration law giving its police the authority to arrest illegal aliens, politicians in twelve other states are introducing legislation to pass the same sort of law in their states. One article notes ?ALIPAC has documented efforts by state lawmakers to file SB 1070 in 12 states already including Arkansas, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, and Utah.? For years, the federal government has played a game in which the Border Patrol was badly understaffed and betrayed because both political parties were selling us out on immigration. The Democrats stood the most to gain since about 80 percent of Latinos vote Democrat. The Republicans were allowing the flood of illegals for the sake of big corporations that wanted cheap labor. Some Republicans such as the Bush family and John McCain think the future Republican Party should be heavily Latino, even though the interests of White people and Latinos are frequently in conflict. A chorus of Jewish intellectuals has insisted that the Arizona law will be declared null and void because they claim that the ability to arrest illegal immigrants is a monopoly of the federal government. These are the same Jewish intellectuals who looked at the Second Amendment?s ?right to keep and bear arms? and then declared that the Second Amendment doesn?t protect our right to own or carry concealed guns for our self defense. As usual, the truth and what the Jews say are two different things. In 1996, the Immigration department declared that it wanted local police to help round up illegal aliens. The Immigration and Custom Enforcement website proclaims ?The 287(g) program, one of ICE?s top partnership initiatives, allows a state and local law enforcement entity to enter into a partnership with ICE, under a joint Memorandum of Agreement (MOA), in order to receive delegated authority for immigration enforcement within their jurisdictions.? Unfortunately, this program apparently throws up enough red tape and hurdles that only about 1,130 local police are participating out of over 600,000 local police in the US. ICE requires local police to go to a special federal school before they can arrest illegal aliens. Police officers are already trained to spot a wide variety of law-breakers. Why should they have to go to a school to learn that a person with no ID and who can?t speak English is probably an illegal alien? Sheriff Joe Arpaio was one of the few who sent his deputies to this school so he could get the authority to arrest illegals, but over 99 percent of police chiefs and sheriffs felt the ICE requirements were too burdensome (as they were no doubt designed to be). All the Arizona Immigration Law does is give their police and state troopers the authority to arrest illegal aliens when they are pulled over for traffic offenses or caught committing a crime (without having to go through a special training program and without needing special permission from ICE). Local police are already empowered to arrest a wide range of criminals who are violating federal law. Imagine a police officer, who discovers a counterfeiting operation. Does anyone seriously think he should just let the counterfeiters go or should he detain them until the Secret Service shows up? Arresting illegal aliens is essentially no different, although there are probably Jewish law professors who would still try to argue against this. The reason that Democrats and liberals are literally going crazy and calling for boycotts is that the Arizona law could arrest and deport a seriously large percentage of illegal aliens in their state. The Democrats are counting on new Latino voters to give them a permanent majority and perpetual political power. The thought that America might actually lose or scare off illegal aliens is a nightmare for Democrats that is long overdue. The United States is currently in a Depression regardless of what the liberal media or certain hack politicians might say. The real unemployment rate is close to 20 percent, much worse the official 12 or 13 percent that states like California and Florida are admitting. We do not need ANY illegal aliens and we definitely do not need the governmental costs they create. One news article notes ??the current fiscal cost outlays for the illegal alien population in California are now approaching $13.1 billion annually more than half the projected (state budget) shortfall for next year.? One reason Utah politicians want to pass an immigration law just like Arizona?s is that they are afraid of being swamped by illegal aliens from Arizona. In ten years time, there will be two types of states in the US, states that passed an immigration law like Arizona and states that are bankrupt and crawling with Mexicans. __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

05-11-2010, 06:54 AM	#13
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Glad other states are doing it.... Side note: If people really think we're in a depression, they seriously need to go educate themselves. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

05-11-2010, 07:05 AM	#15
Caligari Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: At The Mountains Of Madness Posts: 5,414	cuz those damn goobacks are takin r jobs! law is inherently racist because it targets one ethnic group thus racial profiling etc. arizona politicians couldn't prevent Obama from being president or having a latina on the supreme court so they're trying to pull their own states rights crap. have they hoisted the confederate flag yet? __________________ ATTN Webmasters Cruel Bucks - LIVE Gonzo Does Not Pay ------------------------------------------------ Animal Rescue Click Here to Feed An Animal for Free

05-11-2010, 09:43 AM	#49
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,086	¿dónde está mi troll hispano __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

05-11-2010, 06:11 AM	#2
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	The New Colossus Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Emma Lazarus, 1883

05-11-2010, 06:35 AM	#9
cwd Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In a dream Posts: 1,955	whether you agree or disagree with the Arizona law that is an awful article. Is there a link from where you got it?

05-11-2010, 08:42 AM	#30
escorpio I love to racism, bro! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA! USA! USA! Posts: 22,958	It appears El Chango y El Medico are ready for La Reconquista! Viva Espanol!