Police Officer Shoots Unarmed Motorcyclist IN THE BACK!

[Ethersync]

Happens around 3:34 in the video.

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[seeandsee]

any links? fucking bastard

[Ethersync]

Ottawa Hills officer's trial opens with dash cam vid

TOLEDO, OH (WTVG) -- A never-before-seen police dash cam video was shown in court today in the trial of an Ottawa Hills police officer accused of shooting and paralyzing a man during a traffic stop.

The video shows Officer Thomas White following Michael McCloskey and his friends on their Harleys. At one point, McCloskey takes off at a high rate of speed. Officer White hits his siren and McCloskey stops his bike.
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Officer White ends up shooting McCloskey. Attorneys for White say he believed McCloskey had a gun. However, McCloskey was unarmed and appears docile in the video.

The jury will have to determine if the shooting was justified. White is charged with felonious assault and faces up to 11 years in prison.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?se...cal&id=7433661

Aaron Snyder testifies in officer shooting trial

TOLEDO, OH (WTVG) -- The trial of an Ottawa Hills police officer accused of felonious assault in the shooting of a motorcyclist continues.

More witnesses to a shooting involving an Ottawa Hills police officer are taking the stand today. Officer Thomas White is accused of shooting Michael McCloskey Jr. and paralyzing him.

Aaron Snyder testified this morning. He was with McCloskey the night it all happened. Snyder admitted they were speeding, but weren't fleeing. He says he did not witness the shooting and told his version of what happened.

Officer James Sedler did not witness the shooting either. He was sent to the scene after the shooting. The officer says he found a knife on McCloskey. White's lawyer demonstrated where the officer found the weapon. Prosecuters argue the knife was not concealed.

Tuesday, the shooting victim, Michael McCloskey, took the stand. He says he didn't realize an officer was behind him right before he was shot. He says he heard someone yell out, but couldn't make out what was said. Then he heard the gunshot.

After being shot in the back, "I remember begging for help. I remember having my arms out, so he fired out another round. I remember explaining to him I didn't have a weapon and that he was in the wrong for shooting me."
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McCloskey's best friend testified that, after he called 911, Officer White didn't help him pick the bike up off of the victim. "I was telling him to get the bike off me. I was worried it was going to ignite on fire. I could tell it was leaking gasoline. I knew I was paralyzed, and I knew, if the bike was going to light on fire, I was going to burn alive," remembered McCloskey.

Officer White never seemed to look at McCloskey as he testified. White's lawyer tried to pick holes in the victim's testimony, but McCloskey claimed he never took his hands from the handlebar and was simply putting the bike in neutral when he was shot. However, he admitted to smoking marijuana and drinking prior that night.

White faces up to 11 years in prison if found guilty.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?se...cal&id=7435861

[sperbonzo]

I guess if you are pulled over in Ottawa the best thing to do is to put your hands up in air and immediately start screaming that you are unarmed, and please don't shoot!!




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[DamnGoodRatio]

Guy just shot him, his hand was not even moving towards the "officer" . . .

[candyflip]

That cop should rot for a few years sitting in Gen Pop.

[Phoenix]

like steroids son? well here you go heres a gun...now go get em boy

[ajrocks]

cops suck, they always do, they always will.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I guess if you are pulled over in Ottawa the best thing to do is to put your hands up in air and immediately start screaming that you are unarmed, and please don't shoot!!

Ottawa Hills, Ohio. Not Canada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Hills,_Ohio

[CaptainHowdy]

Getting shot in real life doesn't look that spectacular...

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Ottawa Hills, Ohio. Not Canada

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Hills,_Ohio

Oops! My Bad! In that case, Ohio is the place I need to do that in...


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[dyna mo]

well, ya ride your loud piped harley drunk and stoned at 3 am peeling out from stop signs with the police right behind ya and you are asking for trouble.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, ya ride your loud piped harley drunk and stoned at 3 am peeling out from stop signs with the police right behind ya and you are asking for trouble.

True, but you are not asking to be shot in the back

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

Getting shot in real life doesn't look that spectacular...

Yeah, it looks like he just got unplugged.

[Kenny B!]

That's crazy! I sure hope the cop goes to jail for the full 11 years

[czarina]

I hope he gets the full 11 years and then some!

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

True, but you are not asking to be shot in the back

i agree. but, depending on the circumstances, when a cop pulls over guys like that, they are pretty skeered and on the defensive, at least in my experience and from the stories shared from riding buddies. also, there could be a serious problem in that area with mc clubs. not saying there is, i do not know, but if there is, that cop was peeing in his panties when he pulled those guys over, i figure that's how the 2nd cruiser was on the scene so fast, lights flashing.

not taking the cop's side, that was a serious fuck up, but riding like that at 3am is really asking for A LOT of trouble.

[2012]

gutless .

[dyna mo]

here's an example of how cops pull bikers over- gun instantly drawn and it's an undercover cop, no badge, nothing-

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by czarina

I hope he gets the full 11 years and then some!

11 years in prison and then, upon his release, snip his spinal cord so he is permanently paralyzed for the rest of HIS life. Sounds fair...

[John-ACWM]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I guess if you are pulled over in Ottawa the best thing to do is to put your hands up in air and immediately start screaming that you are unarmed, and please don't shoot!!
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Sadly, that was funny

[L-Pink]

Remember in earlier posts about Arizona/Illegals I stated nobody has seen real profiling unless they are riding a motorcycle?

Earlier in the first video about a minute before the shooting the officer drove right past a vehicle stopped partially on the road to follow 2 bikers that hadn't done anything. Talk about profiling.


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[Tom_PM]

If you're so scared that you need to shoot people in the back before asking them to dismount or step out of the vehicle, then you are not competent to be a peace officer.

If you made a mistake and shot someone in the back, you are also incompetent to be an officer.

There is no way to slice this other than guilty. With great power comes great responsibilty and sometimes great fail.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

There is no way to slice this other than guilty. With great power comes great responsibilty and sometimes great fail.

[Elli]

Only 11 years for that? Wow.

[Adam X]

you guys so fast to throw a cop in jail for 11 years are just as bad as the cop.. he's obviously very fearful or incompetent.. you discipline him accordingly.. but not even 1 year behind bars..

ever been to jail? You know what its like to lose your life behind steel doors for even 24 hours? Its no fucking joke. Your freedom is ripped away. That cop needs to be sued and disciplined or fired.. but jail is another ballgame. Put the Dahmers and violent maniacs in jail.. obviously this guy fucked up.. wouldn't you want a second chance?

[MrBottomTooth]

Originally Posted by Adam X

you guys so fast to throw a cop in jail for 11 years are just as bad as the cop.. he's obviously very fearful or incompetent.. you discipline him accordingly.. but not even 1 year behind bars..

ever been to jail? You know what its like to lose your life behind steel doors for even 24 hours? Its no fucking joke. Your freedom is ripped away. That cop needs to be sued and disciplined or fired.. but jail is another ballgame. Put the Dahmers and violent maniacs in jail.. obviously this guy fucked up.. wouldn't you want a second chance?

Tell that to the guy that he crippled. He doesn't get a second chance to walk again. As far as I am concerned it was attempted murder.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Adam X

you guys so fast to throw a cop in jail for 11 years are just as bad as the cop.. he's obviously very fearful or incompetent.. you discipline him accordingly.. but not even 1 year behind bars..

ever been to jail? You know what its like to lose your life behind steel doors for even 24 hours? Its no fucking joke. Your freedom is ripped away. That cop needs to be sued and disciplined or fired.. but jail is another ballgame. Put the Dahmers and violent maniacs in jail.. obviously this guy fucked up.. wouldn't you want a second chance?

I don't know about you but all I saw on the video was a cop following 2 guys until they accelerated hard from a stop then shooting one of them in the back while he sat on his bike. If I did that I would get more than 11 years. How about you.

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[YDG]

That kinda thing wouldn't happen here.

[munki]

Originally Posted by Adam X

you guys so fast to throw a cop in jail for 11 years are just as bad as the cop.. he's obviously very fearful or incompetent.. you discipline him accordingly.. but not even 1 year behind bars..

ever been to jail? You know what its like to lose your life behind steel doors for even 24 hours? Its no fucking joke. Your freedom is ripped away. That cop needs to be sued and disciplined or fired.. but jail is another ballgame. Put the Dahmers and violent maniacs in jail.. obviously this guy fucked up.. wouldn't you want a second chance?

He shot and paralyzed a man... Throw him to the dogs...

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by YDG

That kinda thing wouldn't happen here.

Never?

Police chief 'sorry' over death

Met Police chief Sir Ian Blair has apologised to the family of the Brazilian man shot dead by police in south London on Friday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4712061.stm

[Tom_PM]

He discharged his sidearm into the back of a motorcyclist by mistake. Mistakes have consequences. Thats it really. When you have the ability to kill or injure someone by your mistake, you know going in how imperative it is to never make that mistake. No idea what the sentancing guidelines are for that. I guess just as harsh or light as the people have decided.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

He discharged his sidearm into the back of a motorcyclist by mistake. Mistakes have consequences. Thats it really. When you have the ability to kill or injure someone by your mistake, you know going in how imperative it is to never make that mistake. No idea what the sentancing guidelines are for that. I guess just as harsh or light as the people have decided.

I do not think he is claiming he accidentally pulled the trigger. He may not have meant to paralyze a man that was no threat to him, but pulling the trigger was intentional.

[J. Falcon]

Originally Posted by Adam X

you guys so fast to throw a cop in jail for 11 years are just as bad as the cop.. he's obviously very fearful or incompetent.. you discipline him accordingly.. but not even 1 year behind bars..

ever been to jail? You know what its like to lose your life behind steel doors for even 24 hours? Its no fucking joke. Your freedom is ripped away. That cop needs to be sued and disciplined or fired.. but jail is another ballgame. Put the Dahmers and violent maniacs in jail.. obviously this guy fucked up.. wouldn't you want a second chance?

He shot an unarmed man in the back and left him crippled. I think that is pretty fucking violent. 1 year in jail? What would you get for shooting someone in the back and leaving them in a wheelchair?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

He discharged his sidearm into the back of a motorcyclist by mistake. Mistakes have consequences. Thats it really. When you have the ability to kill or injure someone by your mistake, you know going in how imperative it is to never make that mistake. No idea what the sentancing guidelines are for that. I guess just as harsh or light as the people have decided.

I wonder if the cop was using a Glock. I personally don't like the "safety" system. He might have nervously shot him. Still his or his departments fault.


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[Dirty Lord]

ohhhh...fucking bastards!

[Adam X]

yeah I get it... but cops are hired to carry guns, civilians are not.. this cop thought the guy was reeling back with a gun, which is lame bcuz he never produced one.. the cop is a chicken shit and for making a mistake.. a big mistake, he deserves punishment of some sort.. but 11 years?

If the guy wasnt paralyzed things would be different... but since he was, it becomes necessary to put the cop behind bars for 11 years? I dont mean to stick up for the cop so much its just a matter of principal.. many cops abuse their authority everyday trust me I know..

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Adam X

yeah I get it... but cops are hired to carry guns, civilians are not.. this cop thought the guy was reeling back with a gun, which is lame bcuz he never produced one.. the cop is a chicken shit and for making a mistake.. a big mistake, he deserves punishment of some sort.. but 11 years?

If the guy wasnt paralyzed things would be different... but since he was, it becomes necessary to put the cop behind bars for 11 years? I dont mean to stick up for the cop so much its just a matter of principal.. many cops abuse their authority everyday trust me I know..

This idiot cop gives good cops a bad name. This idiot cop makes the job of good cops that much harder. He destroyed this guys life. They should throw the fuckin' book at this pig. Twice.

[beerptrol]

That's nothing! You should see what they do to you if you let your grass grow to tall in Ottawa Hills. They probably kill your first born

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

I wonder if the cop was using a Glock. I personally don't like the "safety" system. He might have nervously shot him. Still his or his departments fault.


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I was a reserve deputy sheriff for a while, and I can tell you that the only safety system that counts is that you NEVER put your finger on the trigger until you have decided to fire. It ALWAYS should stay extended along the side of the weapon. If this guy fired by mistake than his training totally sucked.


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[OTerror]

Holy shit I thought that was a hoax.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

I was a reserve deputy sheriff for a while, and I can tell you that the only safety system that counts is that you NEVER put your finger on the trigger until you have decided to fire. It ALWAYS should stay extended along the side of the weapon. If this guy fired by mistake than his training totally sucked.

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Very true.

[Adam X]

its tricky bcuz he was doing his job.. I bet he only gets a year..or probation, which really doesnt fit the "crime".

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Adam X

its tricky bcuz he was doing his job.. I bet he only gets a year..or probation, which really doesnt fit the "crime".

I think you are way off base.



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[tranza]

What a fucking idiot. He should be arrested for that.

[Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I hope he gets ass fucked in jail.

[Adam X]

does anyone know the cop personally? history of being a prick or doing something like this?
Is anyones character taken into account anymore?

*throws hands in air* ... which is what the biker should have done..
fuck I dunno.. cops an idiot for what he did, he'll get reemed most likely.. make a mistake go to jail right?

[leedsfan]

Originally Posted by Adam X

does anyone know the cop personally? history of being a prick or doing something like this?
Is anyones character taken into account anymore?

*throws hands in air* ... which is what the biker should have done..
fuck I dunno.. cops an idiot for what he did, he'll get reemed most likely.. make a mistake go to jail right?

Adam, You clearly want to defend the position of the cop. We get that. Most of us are either pro cops or anti cops and our judgement gets skewed as a result. I have a cousin who is a cop, and a good friend who is also a cop. We naturally sympathize as a result.

In this instance though I think it's clear that the guy made a horrible call. The result means the person he shot in the line of duty will never walk again. He is trained to make calls of this nature on a daily basis. Forget the details about who it was and what time of day it happened, as those things are really secondary to why he made the choice to shoot this guy. If they came into his decision making process then clearly he deserves what he's likely to get because you don't just shoot an innocent guy on a bike in the back.

How would you feel if this happened to be a security guard who shot a biker messing around in a parking lot of JC Pennys?

Or alternatively if this were a hispanic guy in Arizona shooting a white guy in the back?

Same crime different circumstances that's all.

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by Adam X

does anyone know the cop personally? history of being a prick or doing something like this?
Is anyones character taken into account anymore?

*throws hands in air* ... which is what the biker should have done..
fuck I dunno.. cops an idiot for what he did, he'll get reemed most likely.. make a mistake go to jail right?

Someone in your family is a cop right?

Let's say it wsn't a cop who shot the guy. Would you then feel the same way? Having a badge is not a get out of jail free card

[Adam X]

true, you can play with alternate scenarios.. like in the movie Colors.. the black guy in bed bangin that chick.. cops bust in, they say thats not him thats not him, guy reaches for his pants, one cop starts firing..kills'em. That cop was repremanded (or did he lose his job? cant remember) but that was just a movie..

in this case, cop shot a guy without seeing a gun... did he do it maliciously or was it truly a fearful mistake? If its the former, send him to jail, if the latter, a judge should make the cop pay the guy money and do X amount of good things for that biker for the rest of his life.. lol yeah right.. What good is jail gonna do? make other cops think twice? what good does it do the biker? vindication gonna heal his paralysis?

[dyna mo]

they should make that cop be the biker's butler.