Arizona message to Obama

[brassmonkey]

what u think?

President fails to secure border, opts for jokes instead

Governor Jan Brewer sparked a renewed national focus on border security and illegal immigration when she signed SB1070. While Brewer has been celebrated by many for taking action to enforce laws that Washington has long ignored, those who oppose the law have chosen pithy punch lines over responsible and pragmatic action. Far away from the border at the White House Correspondents Dinner, President Obama decided that Arizona?s unsecured borders and illegal immigration crisis are a laughing matter. Unfortunately, no one in Arizona is laughing.



In December 2008, the U.S. Justice Department said that Mexican gangs are the "biggest organized crime threat to the United States." In 2009, Phoenix had 316 kidnapping cases, turning the city into our nation's kidnapping capital. Almost all of the persons kidnapped were illegal immigrants or linked to the drug trade.

"The very same week that Governor Brewer signed SB 1070, a major drug ring was broken up and Mexican cartel operatives suspected of running 40,000 pounds of marijuana through southern Arizona were indicted. A week later, a local deputy sheriff was assaulted by suspected drug smugglers carrying an automatic weapon," said campaign spokesman Doug Cole. "The drug trafficking and border violence is out of control in Arizona and demands serious attention. President Obama and Congress ignored several requests from Governor Brewer for help in securing the border. Instead of helping, President Obama chooses to crack jokes to an adoring crowd. Mr. President, this is not a laughing matter."

[seeandsee]

cartels spree

[GatorB]

Fuck Arizona they're not going to vote for him in 2012 anyways.

[Vendzilla]

Obama moved the don't ask don't tell from the military to the border

Secure the border

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by GatorB

Fuck Arizona they're not going to vote for him in 2012 anyways.

Since the bill was signed, roughly 50,000 illegals have moved out of AZ. Most of them went to surrounding states. They sure as hell didn't move back to Mexico.

Not only will this cost him AZ votes but also the votes from surrounding states as they start to see the same issues AZ has been dealing with.

This issue has always been bigger than just AZ.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Since the bill was signed, roughly 50,000 illegals have moved out of AZ. Most of them went to surrounding states. They sure as hell didn't move back to Mexico.

Not only will this cost him AZ votes but also the votes from surrounding states as they start to see the same issues AZ has been dealing with.

This issue has always been bigger than just AZ.

yep cali is trying to re claim its shit i saw.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Obama moved the don't ask don't tell from the military to the border

Secure the border

yep

[Mr Happy]

Time for WAR

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by Mr Happy

Time for WAR

[Quagmire]

Strange how a country hell-bent on making their country safe by blowing the shit out of brown people thousands of miles away can't seem to keep the brown people to the south of them from walking across the border and collecting a pay check.

[ParlourCash Karl]

American residency is a privelage, coming from a foreigner who has now got US Citizinship, shit it was a privelage earned over the years, we have two kids who both are US Citizens, the strange thing is do it acording to the book and it works out...don't cut corners...the US is the geatest place to live in the world and we cannot wait to come back home.....we travel a lot but Hawaii has always been home..and we will be back home soon....God Bless the USA.....
Parlour Cash

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by ParlourCash Karl

American residency is a privelage, coming from a foreigner who has now got US Citizinship, shit it was a privelage earned over the years, we have two kids who both are US Citizens, the strange thing is do it acording to the book and it works out...don't cut corners...the US is the geatest place to live in the world and we cannot wait to come back home.....we travel a lot but Hawaii has always been home..and we will be back home soon....God Bless the USA.....
Parlour Cash

i luv hawaii never wanted 2 leave the damn place hahaha!!!

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by ParlourCash Karl

American residency is a privelage, coming from a foreigner who has now got US Citizinship, shit it was a privelage earned over the years, we have two kids who both are US Citizens, the strange thing is do it acording to the book and it works out...don't cut corners...the US is the geatest place to live in the world and we cannot wait to come back home.....we travel a lot but Hawaii has always been home..and we will be back home soon....God Bless the USA.....
Parlour Cash

Yep I lived on the east side of the big island for a while and on maui.. Met my baby mama there.. we love it.. About to buy some land on the big island I believe.

Although I really wouldn't consider hawaii, america.

[tony286]

funny when bush made jokes at the same dinner about not finding weapons of mass destruction. That was ok and how americans have died for false intel? Also if memory serves me right they had this problem before obama was president. you dont want illegals in your state arrest the employers that hire them.no bullshit fines jail.

[smutnut]

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by tony404

funny when bush made jokes at the same dinner about not finding weapons of mass destruction. That was ok and how americans have died for false intel? Also if memory serves me right they had this problem before obama was president. you dont want illegals in your state arrest the employers that hire them.no bullshit fines jail.

Obama promised first year he would address this, he lied as usual.
Is blaming Bush the only thing that people can say to defend the current administration, SAD!
Now he will be forced into it and piss off Latino voters
Too much PC in this country
As far as arresting the employers, same thing, it's already on the books just like it's on the books that immigrants have to carry papers, the government doesn't want to do anything. Right now everyone agrees, secure the border first.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by tony404

funny when bush made jokes at the same dinner about not finding weapons of mass destruction. That was ok and how americans have died for false intel? Also if memory serves me right they had this problem before obama was president. you dont want illegals in your state arrest the employers that hire them.no bullshit fines jail.

You realize that Obama made jokes about killing the Jonas Brothers with Drones right? You also realize that Obama has killed more civilians, in countries we are not at war with, using those drones, than Bush did right?


Why is Obama escalating those wars?

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

You realize that Obama made jokes about killing the Jonas Brothers with Drones right? You also realize that Obama has killed more civilians, in countries we are not at war with, using those drones, than Bush did right?


Why is Obama escalating those wars?

Obama and bush are both puppets for the men behind the curtain.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Since the bill was signed, roughly 50,000 illegals have moved out of AZ. Most of them went to surrounding states. They sure as hell didn't move back to Mexico.

Not only will this cost him AZ votes but also the votes from surrounding states as they start to see the same issues AZ has been dealing with.

This issue has always been bigger than just AZ.

As I said Arizona wouldn't vote for him anyways. Did they vote for him 2008? No. In the last 15 presidential elections only once did AZ vote Democrat that was in 1996. So no Obama didn't lose shit. As far as losing votes elsewhere? Like where? New Mexico where whites are already a minority? Nope. California? HAHA when was the last time California voted republican 1988? MUCH whiter then.

[SykkBoy]

We need a good civil war and this will do it...it will create more jobs and lower the population...two birds with one stone...

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

As I said Arizona wouldn't vote for him anyways. Did they vote for him 2008? No. In the last 15 presidential elections only once did AZ vote Democrat that was in 1996. So no Obama didn't lose shit. As far as losing votes elsewhere? Like where? New Mexico where whites are already a minority? Nope. California? HAHA when was the last time California voted republican 1988? MUCH whiter then.

Yes, but California voted for prop 187, so I wouldn't count on obama getting much of a vote there, and all the Democrats are having a tough time in this state right now

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by GatorB

As I said Arizona wouldn't vote for him anyways. Did they vote for him 2008? No. In the last 15 presidential elections only once did AZ vote Democrat that was in 1996. So no Obama didn't lose shit. As far as losing votes elsewhere? Like where? New Mexico where whites are already a minority? Nope. California? HAHA when was the last time California voted republican 1988? MUCH whiter then.

Well I am glad his only president of states he won

[tony286]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

You realize that Obama made jokes about killing the Jonas Brothers with Drones right? You also realize that Obama has killed more civilians, in countries we are not at war with, using those drones, than Bush did right?


Why is Obama escalating those wars?

Obama has been a disappointment to me.When people call him a liberal I laugh really loud. But there are lots of real things to criticize him about then all this bullshit. If he addressed immigration they then would of said what is he doing addressing that when economy is in the toilet. Also funny when 911 happened the right didnt say clinton is not president anymore so this is W's fault and his alone. No they blamed clinton the prior president but then it was ok. Double standards are everywhere.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

You realize that Obama made jokes about killing the Jonas Brothers with Drones right? You also realize that Obama has killed more civilians, in countries we are not at war with, using those drones, than Bush did right?


Why is Obama escalating those wars?

im guessing your on your magic carpet counting


i want 1 hehehe

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by tony404

Obama has been a disappointment to me.When people call him a liberal I laugh really loud. But there are lots of real things to criticize him about then all this bullshit. If he addressed immigration they then would of said what is he doing addressing that when economy is in the toilet. Also funny when 911 happened the right didnt say clinton is not president anymore so this is W's fault and his alone. No they blamed clinton the prior president but then it was ok. Double standards are everywhere.

Its politics there are double standards everywhere. Tea Parties have zero arrests, get called violent. Illegal immigrants start riots and they are felt sorry for.

Maybe he should stop addressing the economy because he is following the steps of FDR and tanking the thing. And if a president can not handle more than one thing at a time, well it is time for a new president.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Well I am glad his only president of states he won

That's not the point. The assumption somehow this issue cost him AZ in 2012 is false. He wasn't going to win it anyways.

But actually if a state going to be a dickhead and not support him and call him socialist why I the fuck should he do shit for them anyways. If I treated you like crap then asked for you help would you? hell no. Just like when Texas threaten to secede. I would have said "Go right the fuck ahead. Good riddance. Good luck getting by without all the money from DC"

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

im guessing your on your magic carpet counting


i want 1 hehehe

Nah, it has been reported on the media a few times but not much. After all, we can not have Obama looking bad any where but on Fox and Fox will never say anything bad about him bombing the shit out of Pakistan

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by tony404

Obama has been a disappointment to me.When people call him a liberal I laugh really loud. But there are lots of real things to criticize him about then all this bullshit. If he addressed immigration they then would of said what is he doing addressing that when economy is in the toilet. Also funny when 911 happened the right didnt say clinton is not president anymore so this is W's fault and his alone. No they blamed clinton the prior president but then it was ok. Double standards are everywhere.

It's also funny Reagan got 2 1/2 years to fix an economy that was bad but better than it is now yet Obama gets shit for not fixing everything in a year. Fucking 1983 and people still blaming Carter. But you still blame Bush republicans get their panties in a wad. HYPOCRISY anyone?

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by GatorB

That's not the point. The assumption somehow this issue cost him AZ in 2012 is false. He wasn't going to win it anyways.

But actually if a state going to be a dickhead and not support him and call him socialist why I the fuck should he do shit for them anyways. If I treated you like crap then asked for you help would you? hell no. Just like when Texas threaten to secede. I would have said "Go right the fuck ahead. Good riddance. Good luck getting by without all the money from DC"

Texas would actually get MORE money if they did secede, they PAY more federal taxes then they get back from the federal government. AZ on the other hand might not.

http://www.thefourthbranch.com/2010/...ment-spending/

[tony286]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Its politics there are double standards everywhere. Tea Parties have zero arrests, get called violent. Illegal immigrants start riots and they are felt sorry for.

Maybe he should stop addressing the economy because he is following the steps of FDR and tanking the thing. And if a president can not handle more than one thing at a time, well it is time for a new president.

Oh the new history that fdr failed yeah .Thats why democrats controlled the house and senate for 40 yrs after that. If he let it all fail didn't spend a government dime on it. You would all blame him for the collapse of the financial industry. Lets be real there is nothing this man can do that you would approve and that's fine. But lets not kid ourselves. Im personally disgusted with the whole thing and learned from all of this government havent been for the people for a long time.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by GatorB

As I said Arizona wouldn't vote for him anyways. Did they vote for him 2008? No. In the last 15 presidential elections only once did AZ vote Democrat that was in 1996. So no Obama didn't lose shit. As far as losing votes elsewhere? Like where? New Mexico where whites are already a minority? Nope. California? HAHA when was the last time California voted republican 1988? MUCH whiter then.

Congrats. You managed to go off about a bunch of shit not related to this thread and seem to have completely missed my point.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Texas would actually get MORE money if they did secede, they PAY more federal taxes then they get back from the federal government. AZ on the other hand might not.

http://www.thefourthbranch.com/2010/...ment-spending/

But its funny when disasters happen all those we dont want the feds in our business states scream for federal money.
http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallas...errys-tex.html this dallas paper says different about texas.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by tony404

But its funny when disasters happen all those we dont want the feds in our business states scream for federal money.

Because federal money is OUR TAX MONEY. It is not Bush's or Obama's.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by GatorB

It's also funny Reagan got 2 1/2 years to fix an economy that was bad but better than it is now yet Obama gets shit for not fixing everything in a year. Fucking 1983 and people still blaming Carter. But you still blame Bush republicans get their panties in a wad. HYPOCRISY anyone?

Geez, the house and the senate have been in control of the democrats for 3 1/2 years, they came in on CHANGE, what changed? Please, tell me.
Obama wouldn't get shit over this economy if he was doing anything but spending money on entitlements

[mrjoint]

More I read more annoyed I get about this whole thing. I still don't understand why these cities are happy to have illegals run around wild?

How about the millions of local US citizens who are suffering because of budget cuts? unemployment is high, socials services are cut, teachers are being laid off, but numb nut obama is running around making jokes.

1. Borders must be secured.
2. Anyone who are here illegally must be sent back. Unless they are political asylum seekers ( but I think most political asylum seekers do come here legally, US is pretty good at this )
3. Create a law that will allow people to apply for jobs the right way. I think if there are proper immigration laws, most of these workers will come through the proper channels, instead of paying up hefty ransom to smugglers.

4. I know this will suck for anchor babies, but it is life. They can be with family or if they don't have family they can be at foster care till parents go back and enter the country legally.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by mrjoint

More I read more annoyed I get about this whole thing. I still don't understand why these cities are happy to have illegals run around wild?

How about the millions of local US citizens who are suffering because of budget cuts? unemployment is high, socials services are cut, teachers are being laid off, but numb nut obama is running around making jokes.

1. Borders must be secured.
2. Anyone who are here illegally must be sent back. Unless they are political asylum seekers ( but I think most political asylum seekers do come here legally, US is pretty good at this )
3. Create a law that will allow people to apply for jobs the right way. I think if there are proper immigration laws, most of these workers will come through the proper channels, instead of paying up hefty ransom to smugglers.

4. I know this will suck for anchor babies, but it is life. They can be with family or if they don't have family they can be at foster care till parents go back and enter the country legally.

I quote :
It's worth noting that although the unauthorized immigrant population includes more people from Mexico than from any other country, Mexicans are also the largest group of lawful immigrants. As for the flow of illegal immigrants, apprehensions along the U.S.-Mexico border have declined by more than 50 percent over the past four years, while increases in the size of the illegal population, which had been growing by about 500,000 a year for more than a decade, have stopped. This decline is largely due to the recession, but stepped-up border enforcement is playing a part.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...043001106.html

[brassmonkey]

i think im switching parties just kidding

[DateDoc]

Originally Posted by tony404

funny when bush made jokes at the same dinner about not finding weapons of mass destruction. That was ok and how americans have died for false intel? Also if memory serves me right they had this problem before obama was president. you dont want illegals in your state arrest the employers that hire them.no bullshit fines jail.

So you are saying it is ok to be an illegal alien here in the USA but we should jail a US citizen that gives them a job? How about we fix the border so that it is very hard to just walk or swim across it?

Maybe we should have laws like Mexico for illegal aliens. I believe if you just walk across the border into Mexico the 1st time they just send you back home but if you do it again it is 10 years in a Mexican jail. Sounds fair to me - you screw up once - no problem - back home you go. Do it again and we will take 10 years of your life.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by DateDoc

So you are saying it is ok to be an illegal alien here in the USA but we should jail a US citizen that gives them a job? How about we fix the border so that it is very hard to just walk or swim across it?

Maybe we should have laws like Mexico for illegal aliens. I believe if you just walk across the border into Mexico the 1st time they just send you back home but if you do it again it is 10 years in a Mexican jail. Sounds fair to me - you screw up once - no problem - back home you go. Do it again and we will take 10 years of your life.

They come here looking for work and american businesses encourage looking for cheap labor. No work no come to america for the most part.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by tony404

They come here looking for work and american businesses encourage looking for cheap labor. No work no come to america for the most part.

So how does that work for the Iranian Soldier with a nuke under his arm?

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

So how does that work for the Iranian Soldier with a nuke under his arm?

what are you talking about? what does that have to do with american employers hiring illegals?

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by tony404

what are you talking about? what does that have to do with american employers hiring illegals?

Going after the employers is not the main concern with me.
It's the fact that ANYONE can walk across the border.
Secure the border first

That way you get security and have stopped the in flow of drugs and human traffic, then go after the employers

[smutnut]

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Going after the employers is not the main concern with me.
It's the fact that ANYONE can walk across the border.
Secure the border first

That way you get security and have stopped the in flow of drugs and human traffic, then go after the employers

i can agree with that but unfortunately I think people that give large contributions want it open.

[Slick]

My philosophy is that ILLEGAL immigrants from MEXICO are the ones fucking it up for the ones that are here legally, SO if they want to be pissed at the law, be mad at their own fucking people AND on that note, if they're not happy with the law, MOVE BACK TO MEXICO !!!

It's an honor for them to be living here and if they're here legally and not into the wrong stuff and carry their documents, what difference is it gonna make ? The law is there to not only protect them from the bad people, but also us Americans that live down there.

"In 2009, Phoenix had 316 kidnapping cases, turning the city into our nation's kidnapping capital." If I was a legal immigrant living down there, I wouldn't care if I got stopped occasionally because it's for my own fucking safety.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Slick

My philosophy is that ILLEGAL immigrants from MEXICO are the ones fucking it up for the ones that are here legally, SO if they want to be pissed at the law, be mad at their own fucking people AND on that note, if they're not happy with the law, MOVE BACK TO MEXICO !!!

It's an honor for them to be living here and if they're here legally and not into the wrong stuff and carry their documents, what difference is it gonna make ? The law is there to not only protect them from the bad people, but also us Americans that live down there.

"In 2009, Phoenix had 316 kidnapping cases, turning the city into our nation's kidnapping capital." If I was a legal immigrant living down there, I wouldn't care if I got stopped occasionally because it's for my own fucking safety.

They want them to come up here, be fruitful and multiply and take over counties so they can tell kids what to wear to school and stuff, and it's not red white and blue!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by smutnut

They want them to come up here, be fruitful and multiply and take over counties so they can tell kids what to wear to school and stuff, and it's not red white and blue!

its the truth but most dont finish hi school

[dyna mo]

it's artichoke season here in cali, ain't no whiteys willing to pick them madafakers.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Geez, the house and the senate have been in control of the democrats for 3 1/2 years, they came in on CHANGE, what changed? Please, tell me.
Obama wouldn't get shit over this economy if he was doing anything but spending money on entitlements

And the republicans controlled the Congress for 14 year before that. 6 of those years while Bush was in office. Once again the Dems only get 3 1/2 years to fix problem republicans had caused for at least 6 years. Does this make sense? To a baised retard perhaps. To LOGICAL people it doesn't. If YOU fucked shit up for 6 years I get 6 years to fix YOUR fuck-up. Which part of that is too hard for you to grasp?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by GatorB

And the republicans controlled the Congress for 14 year before that. 6 of those years while Bush was in office. Once again the Dems only get 3 1/2 years to fix problem republicans had caused for at least 6 years. Does this make sense? To a baised retard perhaps. To LOGICAL people it doesn't. If YOU fucked shit up for 6 years I get 6 years to fix YOUR fuck-up. Which part of that is too hard for you to grasp?

thats real talk

[TheSenator]

Where do all the Mexicans get their guns from?