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Old 05-17-2010, 11:04 AM   #51
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Old 05-17-2010, 12:58 PM   #52
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Holy Crap, you guys act like this the first time she did hardcore. Her very first hardcore is the real old news.
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:04 PM   #53
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I've always wondered if these are big sellers of most solo girl sites, OTHER THAN, Jordan Capri.
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i get most of my money on pornpayouts.com check it out an let me know what ya think thanks in advance
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:29 PM   #55
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Holy Crap, you guys act like this the first time she did hardcore. Her very first hardcore is the real old news.
It's the first that's been available to promote from a sponsor though isn't it?
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:38 PM   #56
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:42 PM   #57
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generally, they never had to suck a dick in their life for anything.

those hosted galleries are terrible too, I can't see anyone promoting them with much success, they are maddening at best.
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:06 PM   #58
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So I ask one more time:
Who is making sales with it? Anybody?
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:10 PM   #59
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So I ask one more time:
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the silence is speaking volumes, methinks
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:49 PM   #60
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no, she convert well as a solo girl for some time
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Old 05-17-2010, 04:21 PM   #61
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i think she lost that "girl next door" edge when she went hardcore with vivid. i agree with what someone said earlier that if she wanted to go hardcore she should have played it as a "home video" type of scene with a guy she met. but then break up with him to keep the "availability" fantasy with her loyal members/fans. not a smart move in my opinion. i think it was a knee-jerk reaction from weak sales from lia19.com
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Old 05-17-2010, 10:37 PM   #62
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generally, they never had to suck a dick in their life for anything.

those hosted galleries are terrible too, I can't see anyone promoting them with much success, they are maddening at best.


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So I ask one more time:
Who is making sales with it? Anybody?
A few a day, nothing spectaculair though. Think Pipecrew hit the nail on the head.
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I was hoping you'd post Roald as you have more traffic than anybody else here.
I too, was very disappointed in the hosted galleries for it. Oh well. I did give it my best shot over the weekend and failed miserably. It sure sounded like a good idea...
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Old 05-17-2010, 11:28 PM   #64
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Holy Crap, you guys act like this the first time she did hardcore. Her very first hardcore is the real old news.

A lot of people have not seen that photo set she did with Eddie Coates. I think that set was shoot before she had her website.
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1 sale

gonna give it a couple more days b4 i pull it.. disappointing
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A lot of people have not seen that photo set she did with Eddie Coates. I think that set was shoot before she had her website.
I'm pretty sure a guy (cant recall name) was selling sets of this on here only a few months ago it was shot sometime before her site...
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I was hoping you'd post Roald as you have more traffic than anybody else here.
I too, was very disappointed in the hosted galleries for it. Oh well. I did give it my best shot over the weekend and failed miserably. It sure sounded like a good idea...
When Sunny started doing hardcore sales went through the roof so it varies a lot
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Sunny is in a WHHOOLEEE different league then Lia19. Soft internet girls that usually suddenly do hardcore come off as very uninterested in the cock... sadly it comes off looking like their getting business raped and not the nympho slut you wished they were.
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WoW sorry to hear everybody feels this way. Its kinda the same feeling as when "Lias First Time"came out. But it hit pretty high on overall sales and rentals due to the fact that my members said " Yes its about time" you can only watch me ride a bike and my skirt fly up so many times. Agreed it should be promoted bigger webwise but Vivid knows what they are doing. Plus it was my first feature and I loved it.



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WoW sorry to hear everybody feels this way.
I don't have any negative feeling at all towards you or your work. I just was unable to make any sales with this. And I think some of the factors were brought up in this thread. For instance if we had some hosted galleries that actually contained some of the pics like the ones you posted here of actual sex...we may have had the proper tools to promote this with.

Instead all we got were the non-penetration painfully obvious posed pics to work with.

I'd rather have a gallery full of vid caps of you actually fucking so I could give surfers a reason to want to buy a membership in this day and age of piracy. It's hard to compete when we don't have anything to work with.
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WoW sorry to hear everybody feels this way. Its kinda the same feeling as when "Lias First Time"came out. But it hit pretty high on overall sales and rentals due to the fact that my members said " Yes its about time" you can only watch me ride a bike and my skirt fly up so many times. Agreed it should be promoted bigger webwise but Vivid knows what they are doing. Plus it was my first feature and I loved it.





Those are some damn good pictures.
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Her first movie with Vivid was all g/g. Well who cares? What's the point with giving a woman a Vivid contract if you're not going to have sex with men? The movie didn't do well because it was all girl and also because Vivid isn't the way it used to be and lacks in the promoting department. Hirsch is so fucking fixated on these pathetic boring celebrity sex tapes that he hasn't done much of anything in building a contract girl's career. I was also told that many believe Hirsch doesn't really run the company anymore because it's a sinking ship and a shell of it's former self.

They let Briana, Monique, Hanna (boring), and Meggan go. Meggan was actually the future of the company but she's now dating Vivid director BSkow and never renewed in November. So who do they really have left? There's Savanna and Sunny. But Sunny Leone isn't even a Vivid girl anymore and shoots for other companies. But they're holding on to her for dear life because she is very popular. What the hell happened to Nikki Jayne? She's back in England full time now and didn't even go to this year's AEE convention & AVN Awards. That used to be an automatic losing of your contract before with Vivid if you didn't show up every year. But I guess Nikki once being engaged to Derek Hay, she stays as a Vivid girl.

So who are left? Lia and A.J. Bailey. I have nothing against these women but with Vivid lacking in the promoting department and the these two not promoting their own careers, no one really knows who they are. I read many of the adult forums and many porn fans can't name a single Vivid girl.

When your company isn't doing their job in promoting you, then take control of your own career. Does Lia even have a Twitter account yet and what's up with A.J. having a Blue Geisha Twitter? I tried looking for a Twitter for Lia and couldn't find one and I just gave up. Lia should have come up with a last name because how many other Lia's in porn were there before her? And with a last name, she can have her share of options when claiming herself at social networks. But go and claim your exact name at every single major social network. Don't do the xxx names or Club names. That won't rank high on search engines. Make sure you're not taking another porn girl's name. And Google the name to make sure no one has ever had that name before you. Because there are many porn stars who have the same names or very similar names or change the y to an i thinking they're being cute when they're not. Because that won't rank high on search engines when someone else already has the same or similar name.

Go to every single party that you can and make sure you're being photographed. Take security with you because I hear all the time many female porn stars don't go to these parties because of the constant harassment and abuse by fans AND industry people. I would take business cards and pass it to every photographer so they will know who I am, spell my name right, and know which websites I have. Don't be insulted if they don't know who you are. Many don't. Gram Ponante didn't even know who Casey Parker was because she had new hair at the 2009 AEE convention.

Buy your domains and even if you don't have a website yet, redirect the domain to your Myspace or Twitter. I've already seen porn stars doing that a lot and they redirect it elsewhere. Buy your names and not the xxx and Club names. You can if you have the money to burn.

There isn't much out there about porn star Lia because Vivid has dropped the ball and so has Lia. If Vivid won't do their job, then it's up to Lia to promote herself. Go to every single party and event that you can, make yourself known on social networks, send out press releases with all your social network links included, and email them to every single site that runs press releases. Chanel Preston didn't have a single movie out yet but hires Adella to promote her and now she's more known than the Vivid girls are. I asked someone who is Chanel Preston and why is this unknown getting all this press without a single movie out. But she got the right people around her to promote her. Now she's writing for XCritic and was also a trophy girl at XRCO.

Promote your careers and take control of it yourself without having to rely on someone else to do it. And also build your online presence. Because how else will anyone know who you are and what your next projects are? There's more promotion for a dance gig or a new sex toy than there is for the actual porn star. Control your own lives if you want a career in this industry.
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haha yeah no worries about that, she won't be going hardcore anytime soon LOL. I think the fanbase on softcore sites are somewhat different from the hardcore base. I know Karla for example, some of her members flipped when she went topless and a lot of them don't want her to go further. It's like they want her to stay in that "girlfriend" image they have. I'm sure Lia's fans are like that as well, and then of course you have those that will always support what the model wants to do. I think Lia looks great though, if hardcore is what she wants to do then good for her
with all due respect I don't believe that theory, I think in Karla's case her fake tits look better clothed or in bikinis, and it was a bit of a letdown when she went topless as they just look like a typical boobjob.... if her naked breasts were hotter those members wouldn't have been flipping, she is one of the hottest girls ever and it is a shame she went fake way back when
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1) Never heard of her.
2) Vivid sucks. Without comps or parody DVDs, they would be out of business already.
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WoW sorry to hear everybody feels this way. Its kinda the same feeling as when "Lias First Time"came out. But it hit pretty high on overall sales and rentals due to the fact that my members said " Yes its about time" you can only watch me ride a bike and my skirt fly up so many times. Agreed it should be promoted bigger webwise but Vivid knows what they are doing. Plus it was my first feature and I loved it.



Which one are you? Both are hotties.

Sorry, but I have never heard of you until now.
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Take security with you because I hear all the time many female porn stars don't go to these parties because of the constant harassment and abuse by fans AND industry people.
That's bullshit.
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That's bullshit.
No it's not bullshit. What about all those "photographers" who are allowed to go and no one knows who they work for or what publication they're with. While they're there, they start harassing and groping female porn stars. Then there's a certain male industry figure who is invited to everything but the women are told to stay away from him because of his constant harassment and abuse. You can keep the photographers away to only the ones know are in the industry. But what about that certain male industry figure who is invited to everything and it's very well documented the shit he puts female porn stars through.

Thank you for the Twitter name. She should have gotten it sooner and not six months after her contract. I would have thought someone who was an online figure for so many years would have already had a Twitter. I noticed she was blocked from her last Myspace account. She should get an XPeeps account to put up what would get her banned on Myspace. Then keep the Myspace account porn free. You can only link to porn from Twitter. Everything else on other social networks will get you banned. Even talking about porn will get you banned in many places. Just don't upload nudity to Twitter's servers by having a graphic background. I just recently told someone to keep her Youtube account porn free, keep her clothes on, and don't even mention porn at all so she won't get banned there too like she does everywhere else she goes 10x.
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There was no hype. Actually, it was a move of desperation (go hardcore cause the girl isn't selling anymore).

The hype = GFY sigwhores posting "top notch" comments in a BRO thread.
So true, I always hated that bitch, nice to see she is going to flop at this
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She def. went up in rank over it but sofar sales are so so
The Man has spoken!

I have not seen her promo tools, but Lia is a sweet hot girl, so I hope she does well!
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and then DMCA's and possibly sue'd? good idea! Vivid is one company that goes after illegal usage of their content.
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and then DMCA's and possibly sue'd? good idea! Vivid is one company that goes after illegal usage of their content.
Obviously not:
http://www.filestubeDOTcom/9329bcc6d...sh-scene3.html

Put a . where I have the word DOT and you can see that that scene is already out there and being downloaded for free by everybody.

You have to stay on top of this shit or hire a company like Remove Your Content to do so for you.
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I don't think Vivid cares about the "contract girl" anymore. What exactly have they done with their contract girls in the past few years? Nothing really. They didn't even hire a single contract girl for their Throat feature. I could so see Briana Banks in the Sasha Grey role. But Hirsch has to keep them because that's what Vivid is known for, the Contract Girl. Now it seems he uses them as stand by.
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No it's not bullshit. What about all those "photographers" who are allowed to go and no one knows who they work for or what publication they're with. While they're there, they start harassing and groping female porn stars. Then there's a certain male industry figure who is invited to everything but the women are told to stay away from him because of his constant harassment and abuse. You can keep the photographers away to only the ones know are in the industry. But what about that certain male industry figure who is invited to everything and it's very well documented the shit he puts female porn stars through.
I said bullshit because you said constant abuse. What you are describing is more isolated than you make it seem. The actions of one asshole or a couple of douchebags should not be used to implicate large groups of people.

Contrary to the 3rd party rumors that you've been told, I was directly told by a top pornstar that barely anyone even approached her and the other girls who hosted a SuperBowl party in Miami this year.

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Who is making sales with it? Anybody?
Just login to your account and look at the NATS conversion ratios that appear next to each FHG.
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I said bullshit because you said constant abuse. What you are describing is more isolated than you make it seem. The actions of one asshole or a couple of douchebags should not be used to implicate large groups of people.

Contrary to the 3rd party rumors that you've been told, I was directly told by a top pornstar that barely anyone even approached her and the other girls who hosted a SuperBowl party in Miami this year.
The Super Bowl party might have been more celebrity driven. So if it was more of a celebrity party, the average male fan who attended that party might have been more intimidated and just behaved themselves.
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Just login to your account and look at the NATS conversion ratios that appear next to each FHG.
That's kinda cool. We still use NATS 3 at SoloSlutCash so I didn't know that feature even existed.

Stats are looking about what I'm seeing then. I haven't sent enough traffic obviously

I'm currently 0:1764 Raw and 0:864 unique
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i was waiting a long time for this one
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Put a . where I have the word DOT and you can see that that scene is already out there and being downloaded for free by everybody.

You have to stay on top of this shit or hire a company like Remove Your Content to do so for you.
so because somebody is pirating their shit, that automatically means they aren't policing shit? Do you even know if they've hired Remove Your Content? Or you just babblin' out your ass?
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She is to innocent should of not gone hardcore I think clients prefer to think that they still have a chance at her innocence.
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so because somebody is pirating their shit, that automatically means they aren't policing shit? Do you even know if they've hired Remove Your Content? Or you just babblin' out your ass?
Just babbling out my ass. How about you? You seem to be "in the know" with your smart ass comment to me. Enlighten me genius. Or shut the fuck up.
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WoW sorry to hear everybody feels this way. Its kinda the same feeling as when "Lias First Time"came out. But it hit pretty high on overall sales and rentals due to the fact that my members said " Yes its about time" you can only watch me ride a bike and my skirt fly up so many times. Agreed it should be promoted bigger webwise but Vivid knows what they are doing. Plus it was my first feature and I loved it.





Dont worry about it cutie.... Its not your fault... its the dude in the scene...
That should have been me...
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